Don’t Build a Gaming PC, Do this Instead!

[@sneezyrider1]

This is why I like these guys. They are really there at the budget side showing what's possible, and why building a budget PC vs modding an old office PC does cost more.

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

Doing it on a budget is more impressive than with unlimited money. Cool to see mITX SFF builds with an Intel Core i9 206969 and Nvidia 6090 with 256gb of RAM but I don’t have $10,000.

[@ethan004]

The reason the $600 PC did better was the RGB, RGB always increases FPS.

[@voldem0rt]

The real reason the custom is better than the pre built is because... Dude!!! Who the fuck wants a Dell?

[@ethan004]

@@voldem0rt LOL True.

[@IDontKnowLuis]

do you think the i5 will be the same or do i need the i7

[@Zefe-el-jefe]

True

[@MasterGoku21]

​@@IDontKnowLuis try to go for a newer model. 6th gen Intel processors are not worth it in 2023. Try to get a 8th gen or higher. The Intel i7 7th gen is still decent and will offer good performance, but the i5 8th gen is still marginally better.

[@greenprotag]

For a LONG time I was running a 2nd and 4th gen Optiplex as spare gaming rigs with gtx 1650s and they were EXCELLENT value for money. Sometimes when you have 200-400 to spend, it's better to upgrade an existing used PC.

[@michalklima4744]

Do not respond to that! It is a scam!

[@WindyKnight0822]

What?

[@kennyplayer7731]

Very true… these gen cpu are very expensive if you in a budget you could go for a i5 4590 will do just fine with a gtx 1660ti or 2060 no more than that cause probably the cpu will be bottleneck but overall 1080p-1440p sweet budget spot

[@matthijsvandeweerd1415]

I just recently built my current rig for 400 euros (and that's with the very bad market conditions). It has a ryzen 5 3600, 16gb of ram, 256gb nvme ssd, 1tb hdd, and most importantly, a gtx 1070 strix.

[@michalklima4744]

@@matthijsvandeweerd1415 That is actually a pretty beefy setup!

[@AlexADumbDumb]

I put a video card (1050ti) in a SFF optiplex by cutting a slot in the side panel with a dremel tool, lining it with door insulation, screwing angle brackets underneath it and setting the GPU on a riser shelf on the angle brackets with the cable going through the slot

[@Klark0751]

I've got the Optiplex 7040 SFF with the same specs and its still very capable in 2022. Love that you guys keep the budget builds on the channel just as much as the over the top ones!!! I'm awaiting my RX6400 to complete my budget build 😎. Keep them coming guys.

[@mudzy9820]

The 6400 is really bad bro go 6500 at least or 3050

[@Klark0751]

@@mudzy9820 thanks for the recommendation bro! My Optiplex SFF case cant fit anything larger than a single lane low profile gpu unfortunately 😭. Will have to wait till a save up for my full build to get a decent card.

[@marcorill1670]

@@Klark0751 have you ever think about using a pcie riser?

[@Klark0751]

@@marcorill1670 Yes definitely, that would open up my graphics card options but the limitation with the SFF optiplex is that it doesn’t have regular 6 pin power. So any card I install has to be run off the pcie slot power. That mostly leaves options like the gtx 1650 or the rx 6400 and older gpus. I finally got my 6400 and its been great so far. E sports titles at 110 to 120fps medium settings and even a few newer triple A titles run alright. And it all cost me $350

[@marcorill1670]

@@Klark0751 great, enjoy

[@eltonwaynewilliams4152]

Great video guys. I have a Dell Precision T7100 that i have converted to a gaming rig. Cpu E3 1270 v3, 16gb ram at 1600 with an RTX 2060, i am so proud of my build. I get 60fps in all my games 1080p high/max settings in AAA titles.

[@fnfgf1446]

Cpu bottleneck

[@eltonwaynewilliams4152]

Correct. I get bottlenecks in certain games but there is a way to work around it by using Dlss or Fsr. Helps with taking pressure away from cpu but other then that 99% of the games i play i get a 60-80fps experience.

[@fnfgf1446]

@@eltonwaynewilliams4152 if you play e sports titles then what settings do you use?

[@eltonwaynewilliams4152]

Low/medium

[@fnfgf1446]

Alright, i have a old laptop that has - 4gb ddr3 1333 mhz - intel core i3 2350m - GeForce 315m - 500 gb hdd It is old and slow

[@MissingNumb]

Stoked for y'all on the Autofull sponsor. Picked up 3 over the past year, and I highly recommend them! One of the best value "Premium" build chairs I could find at the beginning of 2022, when shipping delays brought a drought in "gaming" chairs among other things.

[@brandonarmenti3227]

@realtoastybros shut up scammer

[@Cw11547]

@realtoastybros bot

[@TessaTheCat_]

Optiplexes are pretty neat. I have a gtx 970 with a 500w psu, and an i7-3770. Pretty neat.

[@corneliusantonius3108]

I have build a game pc with a GTX 970 recently, to sell online with a 500w psu Coolermaster that came with the coolermaster case. Suprisingly it came with 2 6+2 pins. I wanted to build something with a first gen i7 just to have done it. It srtill needs a bettrer cooler thogh.

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

I have a dell with an i7 4th gen and gtx 1070. Runs new stuff decently still but my 1070 is being bottlenecked quite a bit especially when I tried to play spiderman miles morales recently

[@daytimerocker3808]

pretty neat

[@Eff_One]

That is a good combination. 👍

[@Elvarg]

My rig is a dell inspiron I found for 20 bucks. It came with a i5 8400 12gb ram and a 1tb hdd. Sold the hdd for 20 bought a 20 dollar stick of 8gb ram to bump to 16gb, 100 dollar 1tb nvme and 110 gtx 1650 oc from asus. Does really well

[@daytimerocker3808]

8th gen is when cpus got way better that i5 could handle like a 2070

[@Elvarg]

@@daytimerocker3808 only limited by the power supply

[@mudzy9820]

Honestly I've built a new PC 3070 r5 5600x and goes great but it's just no where near as satisfying as doing something like this or even just buying nearly all used parts for dirt cheap and getting decent fps in the games you love. I'm still playing at 1080p so I could still do this but too use to the high frames now. I was gonna get a 12 core xeon and 1080ti instead for the build I wish I had

[@daytimerocker3808]

@@mudzy9820 i had an x58 xeon with a 1080 for a long time was all used parts got the x58 pc for 50 added an x5690 and 1080 and im good to go

[@jskop566]

I've been running a 1650 X in a Dell XPS 8700 and it just keeps surprising me. The biggest issue I've had is airflow but even that is nothing a few well placed fans can't handle.

[@robertdaone]

Upgraded two Dell Optiplex PCs a few years ago and they have no issues playing any modern games I throw at them including VR tittles. Total cost at the time for each PC and their upgrades was around $450.

[@Sigmarr]

did you upgrade psu? What card do you have in them?

[@stevenhinkle6957]

Entertaining video. You guys should run a test using the exact same components across both computers ( GPU, CPU, NVME, RAM ) in order to isolate each motherboard's bottlenecks. I feel like that's the true question between these two build methods.

[@tbthunderer]

I just built a budget PC for a friend. Requested something that could play at 1080p low 60+ fps for as close to $200 as possible. Opted for an Inspiron with an i5 8500, older Corsair power supply (original unit was only 230W and had no PCIe power), came with 16GB dual channel RAM, added a 500GB SATA SSD I had laying around, and an HP OEM GTX 1650 Super. Came out to about $180 total. I love the budget builds you guys do! It's given me the ability to help others get into it that think the barrier to entry is too high. Hoping to start selling some budget builds in my local area, seems a lot of people are interested in PC gaming, but too many of them think you have to drop $1000 to get a decent gaming computer.

[@dont6441]

I've done custom builds and prebuilds. Prebuilds get my vote because they're cost effective, engineered to work as a unit, parts are readily available and they're designed to run Windows flawlessly. Driver are no problem too. For a hassle free cost effective system, prebuilts win easily.

[@matthewcale8037]

I have this exact setup with my Optiplex (Minus the power supply which I upgraded with an EVGA 450W) I'm super happy with the performance so far. I got the dell Optiplex in a trade for with an Xbox one s, and the bought the graphics card second-hand. so accounting for the value of the Xbox plus what I paid for the GPU im in only $350 for a sweet 1080p medium/high settings machine.

[@monkeywheel5522]

What is the graphics card that you bought?

[@matthewcale8037]

@@monkeywheel5522 Power Color RX6600

[@Chrisp707-]

@@matthewcale8037 the RX6000 series is pretty great value for money

[@kngharv]

what kind of power supply did you get to fit into that optiplex box?

[@matthewcale8037]

@@kngharv EVGA superNOVA 450 GM 80+ Gold SFX. Did take a little modification to have it bolt up right.

[@NC-jy3wg]

1st let me say I love these videos. I had not built a pc in 10 years, and your videos got me back in to it. My first step in was to buy and upgrade an Optiplex. It was fun. I have done it several more times for friends and my nephews. I even molded the case and added rgb on a few. Then I did a 10100f build. It works somewhat better and has quite an upgrade path. Both are fun. Both are worth doing. I think it still comes down to what you can afford, or are willing to spend. Thanks for the inspiration!

[@WindyKnight0822]

Fakey

[@NC-jy3wg]

@@WindyKnight0822 Yupp. Hope nobody replies to that stuff.

[@vdubmikey1]

I've gone a slightly different way. I've bought a new Dell Precision 3660 Tower and am gradually going to turn it into a gaming beast beast as I go.

[@DJYunkHank]

The thing is with the new parts at least your getting warranty from reputable companies whereas the optiplex is used and you won't get a warranty from dell

[@neilagutaya]

Not sure if you care so much about this but some criticism I'd like to share is the fact that while I love your videos, especially given the budget perspective (compared to other youtubers), I wish you guys parsed your videos much more with timestamps. It's dreadful to see a 17 min video not knowing where whatever is. Again, love your videos though! Great value perspective.

[@tdtellem]

My only issue with the Optiplex path is the power supply being limited for upgrade options.

[@bobjohnston1239]

I got the i3 as a placeholder for my system upgrade and am very impressed by its performance.

[@TheGodOfAllThatWas]

Office gaming pc is the best 1st gaming pc. Cheap, easy to do, and dips your toes into getting comfortable inside the PC. Ideally finding one that has a standard ATX PS and/or Case would be helpful. Wish they all were standard ATX.

[@casualnerdjason6678]

Back in 2010 as a poor grad student, I bought a used Dell desktop from the Dell Outlet online for about $300. Literally just added more RAM. Solid gaming and even managed to do some streaming at the same time. Ran with it for 5+ years. Was it old by then? Yes. But totally worth it on a budget. I highly recommend this method (adding a rx6600/rtx3050 maybe) if you want some good 1080p gaming! Enjoy it.

[@Atm_Made_It]

I’m needing more information I’m looking to do same

[@robertwright9039]

I really like your video, it was a realistic comparison. By using the same GPU we get a true review of how the compute and I/O hardware can impact price/performance. thanks.

[@edselmeister]

Take into consideration how hot it gets where you live. Small case has a horrible ventilation and adding fans pull more dust to the grill that does not have a dust filter. Your choice of video card will be very limited. Measure twice before you purchase your video card. I built and sold entry gaming pc using pre built and it worked well. But nothing beats a glass side panel case, enough fans and a little led/RGB if you can afford it.

[@TechFreak94]

Wasn't a desktop but I picked up a Lenovo Thinkpad yoga laptop that had a 7th gen i7 and a thunderbolt port. Got good deal on an EVGA 2060 and on a zotac amp box. I usually play league of legends and it gets anywhere between 130 - 180 FPS maxed settings at 4k. Still doing more tests but very happy with it's performance.

[@yearofthegarden]

You cannot beat the right Optiplex. I got a 3010 MT which is able to house a mATX motherboard. I bought the optiplex from a blind charity for $50, which got me a case, front USB, cd drive, and a WD500gb. I threw in a PSU, b450, R5 1600af, and rx 570 for about $300 all in all and it worked so great, no issues except rewiring the Dell power button to work on a normal motherboard. I got bored fo gaming and eventually swapped to just a 5700G in a custom case made of aluminum pans for small form factor and now I am now on a new mini pc powered by USB c pd battery kick, because I love small form factor, and lower wattage with the APU, plus dont game and travel a lot. I essentially pulled all of the e-waste from the optiplex and recycled the case, because $50 is a good entry case and pays for itself since I got to keep windows and no one wanted to buy it for $30 on craigslist lol.

[@MrRaheninm]

I love my Optiplex i am in sudamerica (Venezuela) and with 450 usd aprox i get a Optiplex 9020 with a i7 2600, 16 gb ddr3 ram, a ssd of 512 gb and a rx 580 nitro 4gb that lets me play anything over 60 fps, in comparation a PS5 in my country sell in 1200 USD , of course it was a process to getr all the parts and build the pc but i am very happy with the performance even if is somewhat slow because of the type of ram

[@dricebaker6594]

I would try to get a 4th gen chip optiex if that’s possible but other than that good combo and very reasonable prize for southamerican standards!

[@MrRaheninm]

@@dricebaker6594 Whe are soo behind that the more new optiplex dont exist in my country market, by the general standar my rig is top of budget gaming lol

[@dricebaker6594]

@@MrRaheninm ow shoot, Im sorry. Well still a very capable machine you got there, Have fun!

[@MrRaheninm]

@@dricebaker6594 dont worry men we all have things better than others in this world i am grateful of what i have and in the end of day i love tech even if i cant have all i want have a god day

[@DienerNoUta]

X2 soy de latam igualmente y bueno... Trabajo estable y tal, pero mi salario es bastante bajo y tengo otras prioridades como es pagar mi renta y comprar comida, por lo que armar una pc saldría demasiado caro. Pero ahora que estoy viendo elundo de las optiplex

[@Sterling_Silver04]

I have an Optiplex 790 Ultra Small Form Factor that chugs away in the background. It can't use a graphics card (because USFF model, no expansion slot) but it works great as a network server around the house. i5 2400S, 8gb ram, boots from a 120gb 2.5" SSD, and stores stuff on a 750gb 2.5" HDD that I swapped into the old optical drive caddy. I love that little thing

[@codybroken]

240 Watt Power Supply in that Optiplex 7040. Amazed it was able to power that RX 6600.

[@YRCYT]

The 6600 has a tdp of 135 w the opyiplex can handle up to a 150w tdp😊

[@savion1475]

I get the concept, but wouldn’t this comparison be more accurate if you spent the same amount on both pc’s?

[@frogslayer4849]

You can't. When you can get an Optiplex for $100 with 8gb ram, and sata ssd, and windows. How you going to put together a new component pc cheaper than that?

[@eligoodenough1119]

@@frogslayer4849 cpu and mobo bundle, case from black friday, 2.5 ssd internal black friday. Lots of deals

[@acloserlook5823]

@@eligoodenough1119 right, and reuse an e waste case w/psu and you could probably build a 3000 series with that same rx6600 for about 350

[@savion1475]

@@frogslayer4849 thats the point, they’re comparing completely different price ranges. Its like if i were to make a video called $500 pc vs $1000 pc and then said an $1000 pc was better even tho it’s entirely different pricing. Like no duh its better, thats what the economy is for

[@hman6159]

Yeah

[@Chris-tf7gi]

Got two Optiplexs'. Both 9020s. One is a MT with an i7 4790 3.6 ghz. The other is a SFF i7 4770 a 3.4 ghz. The MT sports an RTX 2060. (Yes, I replaced the PS, A Corsair CX 750m and with an adapter for the non-standard power connector on the Dell mb.) The SFF sports an RTX A2000. They're both great. Much as I like the SFF PC, the MT stays cooler and can actually boost to 100%CPU without going over 80c. (No, the SFF will start thermal throttle if running up the cores to 100%. But you'll probably never notice gaming.) Yeah, if paying attention and looking for it both 9020s will "lag spike" every once in a while, loading . . . something or other. Many people might never notice. If I told you you were gaming on my Ryzen 9 PC instead of the Optiplex many people would probably believe it. I've been using the Opti's quite a bit more than my Ryzen 9 because the Optiplexs' are on a large TV. Yeah, these are for chilling out with 8bitdo Pro2 controllers. (Get a8bitdo's branded wireless dongle AND someone else's bluetooth 4.0 dongle. PRESTO. You like more than one wireless controller?) And trusty Logitech k400s. You bet, reclining and gaming is awesome. These Optiplexs' can do more, but ALL I need them to be able to do a solid 1080p 60 FPS. That's what the TV likes, and the Optis' do it well. The i7 4790 makes a difference by the way. Guess what. It boosts and STAYS boosted. (Don't ask me. I thought these had that boost timer nonsense.) Yeah, we'll get back to you one of these days, Ryzen 9. Better posture sitting up at a desk is good, right? I know I'm glad I decided to stick something that can game on the TV! Excuse me while I recline! PC speaker? Nahh. How about Dynaudio speakers on a home stereo. Boom boom!

[@arkhamkillzone]

Always build your own. Don't let some one else build it for you. I built my own pc with no previous experience and just a few yt videos.

[@arkhamkillzone]

@DOGS LOL I guess I was fortunate then cause I did my research pick correct and premium parts and my build is 100% stable and reliable for all games. I put a r9 5900x with a 3070ti in my build and the parts work well together. I had a few issues and scares here and there but nothing I wasn't able to figure out and fix.

[@meatbyproducts]

I find when you do the refurb from Office computer you need to update Ram storage and video card. So there's a little more involved than just slapping a new video card in.

[@Auguur]

Yup, usually a power supply upgrade is necessary at the very least. Adding memory is usually necessary. Also, I could not fit an RTX2060 in a mid tower optiplex, but it fit in a microatx precision case.

[@honahwikeepa2115]

Found a 9020 in the trash. Added an ssd fired it up and it surprised me. I have an old HP Z440 as well. It goes hard.

[@elwaposv]

I see ppl spend a lot of money on gaming PC parts just to install a game and look at the temps, fps, etc, on the overlay software and spend actually 10 to 15 minutes actually playing the game. what i wanted was PLAY games, so i picked up an i5 optiplex, gtx 1660 super, every game at medium no exception, no messing around with configs, (bc also i dont know much about it), tomb raider, horizon, god of war4, overwatch, warzone, gtav to name a few, most emulators up to ps2, i can say its a pretty enjoyable gaming experience, for the same price as a console but still a computer to work on basic day to day tasks. Thanks to your videos i found out that it was not an issue not having 1K or more to spend on a gaming computer. Thanks again!

[@charlesburris6314]

There's nothing wrong with an Optiplex if you can get it cheap enough to upgrade a bit. Great value for relatively little money.

[@zilverman7820]

Of course I will go with the custom build. It has better airflow and newer parts.

[@CodyShell]

similarly i needed to replace my UNRAID server at home and I put it in a HP Z4 G4 workstation. super cheap and it rocks

[@Lucderechte0078]

I use the HP Pavillion pc with is still good. RTX 2060 Ryzen 5 3500 32 GB Ram Windows 11 Runs like Butter

[@Monolitus7]

I recommend upgrading your cpu cause that will bottleneck

[@woahvzz]

get something like a ryzen 7 3700x

[@garycollumbell1396]

@@Monolitus7 i dunno don't think it will bottle neck it maybe at most a few %

[@pwn0grapher]

Cool video concept, not just comparing a PC at the same price point (which would obviously lose). I personally buy these 7040 MTs because they are one of the few DDR4 RAM motherboards dell makes but I only use 1050 Ti's in them because of heat. When I want to do a little more upgrading I use a Dell Precision 3620 which offers a little more room and pretty much the same internals. It's a lot easier to upgrade the PSU, GPU and other parts as well as having a few more vent holes for heat. Love seeing videos with these Dells though. Cheers.

[@derekjarman1638]

Just got a SFF 7040 - popped a 6400 in it and some more ram - good to go for $400cdn!

[@tilapiadave3234]

6400 ,, does it struggle to play SLITHER? LMAO

[@DTDSasquatch]

If you're comparing performance between two computers, it makes more sense to use games that have pre-recorded bemchmarks... or at least use the same map.

[@iNeedsCoffee]

I dropped 120 locally for a mint condition hp elitedesk 800g3 with an i7-6700. Spent another 250 on the a2000 rtx. For under 400, i have a rig that'll run cyberpunk if I want. I mostly use mine for emulation and older mmos. Really dont need all the bells and whistles when you dont play triple A live service "games".

[@elizabethmaker5507]

Good video decided to build my first custom pc with similar specs

[@randomcnando]

If you're interested in gaming only and nothing else than I think spending the extra to have an upgrade path is worth it. On the flip side, if you're just starting out and want to go deeper into becoming an enthusiast, I think it makes the most sense to start in the optiplex, run it while you save up for the rest of the build, transplant whatever GPU you got into a better rig and now you have a spare computer to run as a plex/game server.

[@geoffreystraw5268]

I think a custom pc is worth it for the upgrade path. You can reuse a lot of hardware even if you get a platform upgrade. Of course I am 42 and have been building custom PCs since 94 and am biased.

[@InnuendoXP]

Not to mention after you've been at it a while, how useful having old custom PC hardware around (if you have the storage) is for diagnosing component issues or as backups so you're never stuck without a functional PC, or introducing kids or other family around to working with PC hardware .etc

[@geoffreystraw5268]

@@InnuendoXP Definitely though I have had to wean things out over time like IDE cables and VGA cables. Tons of spinning metal drives for sure about 5 or so sata ssds that are like 160-256 gb back when you wanted a ssd for windows. Now my nvme is my OS drive and I use sata for bulk storage.

[@InnuendoXP]

@DOGS LOL I think it depends a lot on what you put into each build, what your performance requirements are, what the environmental variables are, what the running conditions are like, and what compromise you're making between performance & build quality. Dells are great build quality for the price because they manufacture at scale for clients with large orders who need reliability more than they need top of the line performance & neither side wants to be dealing with downtime & customer service more than they absolutely have to. Their cases are quite well sealed, they usually have modest performance so thermals aren't a huge issue, which means less wear on the internal fans and capacitors that are typically overbuilt for the task. If you're building your own & want to maximise your price:performance, that's going to mean lower quality fans, lower quality power supply even if it is more powerful, lower quality motherboard components which are less tolerant to thermal or kinetic strain over the long term .etc But if you're happy to maybe drop a CPU or GPU tier & instead put that money from your budger into a more thermally efficient case with better airflow & filtration, better fans with better bearings, a better quality motherboard, sturdier PSU .etc - and maybe you undervolt your GPU & CPU instead of overclocking them to within an inch of your life, your components should be good for several builds so long as an ageing case I/O isn't a concern to you. Edit: lol and I'm 32 but have been messing with computers since I was a kid, and have found component build quality has improved a lot in the past 10-15 years if you're willing to pay a little extra (and that extra you're getting isn't RGB)

[@geoffreystraw5268]

@DOGS LOL make a good build? The entire reason I stopped using prebuilds is because I wanted better motherboards that made the pc more stable. To act like Dell is some great product is shocking. I hate Dell. E-waste king.

[@ghostrideralex11]

The ram are in the wrong slots, there's a diagram on the board that says the white tabs are the prioritized slots.

[@Galiant2010]

I believe the "upgrade path" mindset is a lie. By the time I'm ready to upgrade the CPU or RAM I wind up needing to replace everything because the mobo had to be upgraded. But i play on a system for 7-10 years before fully upgrading. So whether it's the CPU or RAM I want to upgrade it'd be a negligible upgrade limited by the interface on the mobo. For example my last rig was AM3+ and DDR3. I just upgraded last year. For any meaningful upgrade I needed at least AM4 and DDR4. I ended up going with 12th Gen Intel and DDR4. The only thing I upgrade more frequently is the GPU, which doesn't care about the upgrade paths available for the other components when it's the most expensive part, usually.

[@madstedotcom]

I went the Lenovo route so got a ryzen 3 2200g. 256 nvme and 1tb hd. Upgraded to 16gb ram currently using a pro wx2100 (4gb Rx 550 wouldn't work). Not the greatest system but less than £200

[@robbyrocksoo]

Loved this video. I am looking to replace my old PC. I want a PC I can play WOT on, but I want to spend the least amount of money possible. I don't need amazing graphics, just good graphics, and speed.

[@Lex10999]

I can't believe an I3 is any good for gaming if I didn't see it. Saw a new HP laptop with a I3 that was so slow, I could write faster than typing in it. Amazing.

[@Sunnybeast16]

Actually got modded optiplex 3040 myself. Upgrade psu for more power for gpu and added 2060ti. It does overheat more then you want it to around 70-80 degree. One thing to do front cover were the vents are, you can take the top portion out and remove the black piece so it’s an actual vent helps a little bit. Since there are no hdd in mine, I am thinking about mounting a fan there but I use this PC either for controller based gaming on big TV and yes I did add a wifi and Bluetooth card or for streaming which is my main purpose of this build. Got a whole kodi setup

[@Hungry_ORANGE]

Did the exact thing with a Intel Optiplex 9010 spend about $500 for the whole build works great

[@LifewithJames]

My spare computer is a optiplex 3020 and i was super surprised with how well it did for an old pc. My limiting factor right now is the graphics card i had laying around though.

[@michaelcannaday3046]

I forgot that bucket seats are meant for long-term use, like in a suped up camaro or charger, compared to an obvious office chair.

[@alexhudspeth1213]

I've got a Optiplex 7010 running a GTX 1050; it's a solid little gamer.

[@johncollins5552]

Still playing gta5 on my PS3 that cost 130 bucks 5 years ago and it's not been a pain in the ass like my pc that requires constant Windows updates, driver updates, virus scans etc. etc the pc hassle never ends. Sick of it.

[@poseidon3032]

6 years ago I received an Optiplex XE from work. I lugged it around for years waiting around to do something with it. Well I did this year. I wasn't really sure what I had, but when I started working on it to get it functional, I ended up spending more money than it was worth to do so. It's good enough for web streaming and some period era games. I learned my lesson though. In hindsight, I would have put that model into the recycle bin and found a later model to work on. Keeping down the e-wastes was an important factor on why I continued with the project. The model or Dell's BIOS in it was not friendly with late model GPU's. I had to shortcut the GPU to an AMD HD 7570. Yes, I could have went with nVidia's GT 710 or something like that. I installed Windows 10 and it works fine with it. I'll later install Linux when Windows 10 falls out of support and AMD graphics seem to work more fluid with it.

[@Erdie5]

I went with the Costco $1299 XPS 8940 with the 3060ti last year when GPUs were stupid. At the time, the price of the 3060ti and 11700 were pretty much the entire cost. Added a proper tower cooler and intake fan, aside from that I will admit it's been fine to the point I haven't been tempted to scavenge parts. Also have a 7010 optiplex sff at work with a gddr5 gt1030 in it. Love that little thing. That system was what convinced me to give the XPS a try. Guaranteed I'll go back to building my own when the time comes to upgrade, but so far I've been happy.

[@azerva5873]

did somewhat the same thing, bought an hp prodesk for 40 euro's second hand, installed 16gb of ram(40 euro's as well) i7 4790k (60 euro's) rx 550(90 euro's, gonna upgrade to an rx 580 tho) and other miscellaneous things like a cpu cooler, fans, thermal paste etc (total 60 euro's) so total i spend 330 euro's give or take with oretty solid performance (better than my gaming laptop that was 700 euro's so i'm pretty happy)

[@Themoxxster1773]

My main thought while watching this is if you upgraded the GPU and the Case you’re almost golden to move everything over and have near-similar specs for the same price I don’t think it would look as good though due to the green on the motherboard as opposed to the black on the custom

[@mcuevas7315]

I upgraded mine opti that had I7 6700, 8gb ram, 500 hdd. I started with a rx 5500 from my sons HP prebuilt we upgraded to a 6600 , bought a stick of 8gb ram , cheapest sff 500 psu I could find on amazon , drilled a couple holes to fit it. A 24 to 6 pin adapter also threw in a 500gb nvme, a pcie x1 wifi, a fresh win 10 install, cleaned 500 hdd for storage. 120.$ plus tax. I had half the stuff I needed before hand.... So I went for it why not....

[@woofgbruk5947]

Coincidentally I recenly bought an Optiplex 390 with an i5 (which turned out to be an i7) 8GB ram, 1TB Spinning rust, Bought a cheap entry level NVIDA730 with 4GB and have been very pleased with it for the old games I play (think unreal tournament era), The whole lot cost me around £120 which is a bargain IMO.

[@mtgcardzandreview2756]

Each method has it's value depening on your needs and budget

[@ge69rh]

Look at the temps as well, the home built ran much cooler than the Optiplex.

[@davebenoist]

Guys, love your videos. I’m very curious how much difference you’d notice with the games on the optiplex installed on an SSD. I’m assuming because of the limited storage on the main nvme, you installed all of the benchmark games on the hdd. In my experience, this makes a noticeable difference. I’m just wondering if it would have given even more of a nod to the optiplex.

[@unclem4626]

I just love making comments long after the debut of the video, but I'm really surprised the Dell opti (i think 240w) psu could handle a 130w tdp rx 6600. I did note the higher temps in the opti, but they were reasonable. Yes someone probably mentioned it out of the other 585 comments.

[@DJaquithFL]

Value doesn't mean a thing if you're bottlenecking the hell out of your GPU. Balance and maximizing potential is the best value. However, if you're competitive in the esports scene you get what you pay for.

[@MisterDamocles]

I have a prebuilt gaming pc which i bought many moons ago. It has gotten quite a few upgrades through the years. Hoping to go for an i7* soon enough. I got my nephew an hp oppice pc which has an a2000 in it, it's pretty good, seeing that card doesn't need any external power. Also gave him the *i7 which was meant for me, but he got it now. Oh well. I still feel mine can still give his a run for his money when it comes to performance, since mine has an rtx 3060ti and 32gb of ddr4 while his only has 16. I'm by no means an expert. But I gotta admit, there's something therapeutic about building a pc, whether it's upgrading an office pc and giving it a 2nd chance at life, or tinkering with my gaming rig to get the most performance i can get given the budget.

[@CallMeMilenko]

Still glad my Optplex plays everything I need it too. It's got some older hardware, but it hasn't given me a reason to upgrade yet. Inten Xeon E3-1230 V2 CPU and an RX 580 8GB GPU.

[@KushiChabarwa-lh1uu]

Did you have to cusnge the power supply coz sure it needs atleast 450w

[@CallMeMilenko]

@@KushiChabarwa-lh1uu Yes i swapped the old one out with a 550w PSU. Didn't need that much power but I got it because I knew one day use it when I built a new pc to replace my Optiplex.

[@blainemitchell]

I would go with the $600 because it starts off with a LGA 1700 motherboard. You can save up and get a better CPU later and just swap that out. It's upgradeable.

[@mindsunwound]

Buying the F SKU i3 only saves you $7 to $15 USD and leaves you without a second GPU that can be used for troubleshooting display issues, or dedicated to encoding a stream so you don't have to put that overhead on your dedicated GPU for more intensive games.

[@5353Jumper]

Hard to find a corporate PC with a big enough power supply for a decent graphics card. And they are difficult to add new power supplies to.

[@16driver16]

Amazon raised the price of that pc case earlier, I was like why? Now I know

[@JTCDesignStudio]

I'd say..it would've been a better comparison if they put in all (except the gpu) used components as the optiplex is all used parts anyway. Price would've been closer i reckon..

[@boondock6055]

Fantastic Video As Always Keep Them Coming!

[@ca6loy13]

where do you actually find these auctions for the office pc's? i've been looking but cant find anything

[@frogslayer4849]

Ebay is where i picked up my Optiplex 3050 for $105 shipped!

[@FiveWaveMedia]

Office dumpsters, government auctions and local Facebook marketplace are few of the places you can find them.

[@Uglier.]

the exact question I had. Mod a office PC or build a new one. Time to see!

[@JustSomeDude848]

This was honestly, nearly the perfect video for me. I was thinking about buying the exact optiplex and slapping a GPU in it but having a lot of indecision. I'm not even trying to game with it necessarily so I'm almost certainly going to buy it.

[@teamofone1219]

I would recommend switching out the case for the dell optiplex. That way you don’t have to worry about whether or not you will have clearance for that gpu and it will have way better airflow.

[@ProlMLGJoe]

Does it support water coling?

[@TomBabula]

Indeed. I needed to go from sff elitedesk 820 G2 to mini tower ATX and after watching this video i picked barebone 7040mt for the exact same graphics card.. I still wanted to retain 2 Sata drives but with stock PSU it was impossible. Upgraded PSU to Corsair SF600. Then it turned out there was not enough clearance for GPU with 8 pin connector. Yes I could close case but it worried me it was pushing down on GPU power connector and cables so tight. I had to drill additional hole for PSU to secure it and bump up with hammer part of metal case that was closing on GPU. Took me a whole day with lot of work. Honestly I thought I would had been better off buying regular ATX with standard ATX power supply but wasn't sure if the case would be compatible for mounting and connections.

[@TheGameBench]

I would say the HP 600/800 G2 are much better than the Optiplex xx40 series. They have bigger cases, take a standard sized PSU and the PSU that comes in it is a 320 watt Delta 80+ platinum... and it has a single six pin connector. On top of it, people tend to gravitate towards the Optiplex, so they can fly under the radar and you might get them cheaper. Also, I really doubt your CoD issues had anything to do with the Gen3 slot. Unless you were near the VRAM limit, which I HIGHLY doubt, this all comes down to IPC. CoD could just be less optimized... more than likely, and scenes are just harder for the 6700 to deal with when draw calls come up, so it can't as many per second as the 12100. The GPU is clearly being used more on the 12100, and that is where your perf difference is.

[@iamyourmuse]

I like the Optiplex 7050 as it had the ability for wifi connection but not so many of them available as the 7040

[@addyyang5691]

I'm running a Dell Optiplex 9020 MT and modify my desktop as well My spec are: intel core i7-4790K Processor 16GB Ram DDR3 Zotac GTX 1660 Super 6GB GPU Twin fan 1TB SSD hard drive EVGA 500 watt power supply i71c cooler master RGB heatsink

[@humancalculator711]

Dell optiplexes are great my school got some new pcs and they were selling of the old optiplexes for $50 AUD each which is a bargain. the pc is decent aswell mine came with 8gb ram, 120gb ssd, a core i7 4770 and a raedon gpu

[@bradbrad6521]

this is kinda late, but the new builds using 7070 mts are crazy good for the money if you can the 7070 for under $300.

[@mattgohio]

You forgot to mention you can't just plop a new motherboard CPU combo in the optiplex if/when you want to.. the case is proprietary(ie non standard)

[@michaelissavedamen]

Can you buy a new case and move the optiplex parts in?

[@TheLucidDreamer12]

Dimensions are a bit better. They're basically the workstation versions of Alienware rigs and come with better build quality, larger PSUs, a case meant for large GPUs, and other creature comforts

[@happyearthlings1738]

even an i5 ivy bridge processoe are still very capable gaming cpus. The only thing you will have to invest first is a beefy gpu that can handle 60fps on 1080p at least

[@haggus71]

As soon as you play an online coop, the CPU will take more of the heavy lifting, which shows in the difference. That's why, with MMOs or any other heavy online gameplay, you want to invest more in your CPU, not your graphics card.

[@SirSkyro]

Specifics on the optiplex used?? Would want to make sure my first build is 100% going to work

[@tomasokeefe7167]

One thing to consider is that for the people in developing countries, buying used workstations from the more recent generations is just not a thing. I seriously considered doing the upgrade and optiplex route but couldn’t find one and just ended up buying the parts instead (got lucky that a family member went to the US during black friday and managed to get an RX 6600 :D).

[@krakhedd]

It would be interesting to run this back against, say, a Ryzen 5 5500, if you haven't already (1st time viewer). You might get an additional performance boost from Smart Access Memory, over the 12100F

[@oliverdowning1543]

I feel like comparing an optiplex to all new is an OK comparison but really the better one is an optiplex to a computer made of a mix of new and used parts as makes sense for each part in a budget DIY build.

[@thetruejay20]

Inspiron 3670, i7 9700, amd RX card of your choice, PSU upgrade maybe, RAM as needed.

[@dinkaboutit4228]

I'm watching this on an Optiplex 9020 that I bought for $250 5 years ago and dropped in a 4970k and a 1050ti. Reddit told me that the Dell MB wouldn't be able to supply the 4970k turbos, but they were wrong. She chugs! Looks like I'm finally going to have to upgrade for something to play Starfield. *Woot! is a good place to look for refurb Dells. I've purchased three, two towers and a laptop, and they were all great. And CHEAP! I could tell that the laptop was a refurb, but ONLY because the one stick of RAM was in the B slot (never seen that from a factory) and there was no cling film. The two desktops were absolutely spotless, I honestly think they were old stock not refurb. Anyway they got it cheap, and it's not scratch and dent stuff.

[@fredriks91]

I had a micro tower and moved it over to a full size tower I got for free. Bought a used gtx 970 that fits + a 550w psu

[@ProlMLGJoe]

Just switch the case to a mesh one, add some water cooling and you're good.

[@ashleyteeter2359]

I prefer the Hp z240 over this model optiplex, it supports both 6th & 7th gen I series and e3 v5/v6 xeon. Also more space and a 400w psu with 6 pin.

[@BrandensOutdoorChannel]

Ram on the optiplex is in the wrong slots. They should be spaced one slot over, furthest from cpu.

[@aetherae0n]

Awesome DBZ shirt dude 👌