Tobii 5: A NON-sponsored review of the premium tracking solution!

[@pgreenx]

Is there a way to use this if you run a panel in front of the screen like air Manager?

[@WatchMysh]

@@pgreenx as long as the tracker can see your eyes it should work

[@pgreenx]

@@WatchMysh not sure you understand. The gauge panel is in front of the lower portion of the monitor. Your review should mention this because once you buy the tobi you are precluded from EVER using any kind of gauge panel which is a big problem. Or If you buy a gauge panel the tobi becomes useless.

[@WatchMysh]

@@pgreenx In the review I explain that the Tobii has to be mounted on the bottom of the screen. If something blocks it it doesnt work obviously. Didn't think of any panels, though. Maybe move it a bit further to the front? My Streamdeck also doesnt block it.

[@pgreenx]

@@WatchMysh an air manager panel or say g1000 would be a deal breaker. Much higher than a flat stream deck. It’s worth making a comment and pinning to the top since many have these panels and the tobi would be useless. Especially since yours is an honest no strings attached review and NO one else mentions this.

[@WatchMysh]

@@pgreenx Good point. I'll pin this.

[@davidgiles9751]

I've had one for a few months now. Once you get the settings dialed in for your liking, it's fantastic. Works on my LG Flex 42 with it fully flexed (900r), where I mounted it on the stationary portion below the monitor.

[@roccatagon]

Maybe You show us whole desk gaming setup, how you built it and what do you intend to improve in the future ? Could be inspiring for viewers.

[@WatchMysh]

Sure :) Guess I'll make a short survey to see if more people are interested. Thanks for the good idea!

[@scottydvintagevideos]

I purchased the Tobii a couple weeks ago on your recommendation and yes it's pricey, but damn it's nice not having to mess with a headphone clip. The eye tracking setup is a breeze. The Tobii works great on my 32" triple monitors with MSFS 2020. I can turn 180° with no issues. I'm using NVIDIA Surround. IMO, not dealing with a headphone clip is worth the extra price. Amazon ran a 20% coupon and I used Amazon Reward points, so I only paid $225 😁

[@WatchMysh]

Nice!! I'm also still totally happy with it. It just works.

[@billpii6314]

I just use a baseball cap and the metal refectors on it. Much lighter and no wires, I ditched the proclip many years ago and never missed it.

[@billpii6314]

@@WatchMysh "It just works" Hardly it take lots of tweaking and then one day it goes crazy and you have to tweak it again it also is constantly losing the center . I'm about ready to return it.

[@WatchMysh]

@@billpii6314 oh crap. What did the support say? That doesn't sound normal or healthy.

[@billpii6314]

The size restriction on your monitor is for eye tracking for head tracking it doesn't matter how big your monitors are

[@nathanm6024]

Hey, I'm really NOT interested in spending a lot of time in settings. I have a life! Can you tell me if this is a good option for avoiding the constant tweaking of the freewares and beam?

[@WatchMysh]

I'd say the Tobii works quite well out of the box for a lot of games and the interface is better than most of the free stuff if you have to tweak some settings. Head tracking always involves some messing around with the settings, but I think the Tobii is one of the least annoying options. If it's still too time consuming you can always send it back and get a refund.

[@SeeMeeBee]

AMIGA ! My very first attempt at MSFS!! God knows what version it was but that 15inch screen wasn't the best!!..And at (I think) 25fps? And 320 by something else just as low. :)

[@patrickcallaghan8326]

Any problems with mouse clicking & rotating knobs?

[@WatchMysh]

No, not at all

[@WatchMysh]

Forgot the Happyaward. Of course the Tobii 5 bags one easily!

[@billpii6314]

For you maybe, I'm not so sure.

[@R0TT3NB4ST4RD]

"here's a no strings attached review" "they sent me it for free to review"

[@WatchMysh]

No strings attached means: no editorial control, no influcence on the outcome, no sponsored money, no contract. The difference to sponsored is: Most other reviews that received the tracker for free were sponsored ones. They disclose this fact during their videos. It means they get the tracker and compensation. I'm not relying on free hardware. My channel isnt my main source of income. So I don't care whether I get sent stuff or not.

[@R0TT3NB4ST4RD]

@@WatchMysh I know :( im just jelly, i dont get sent free shit yk?

[@Bambeakz]

@@WatchMysh Free is biased even if it is worth a dollar. There is enough research to be found about that.

[@swede7581]

eye sight problems? Glasses? if i have for example an eye sickness like cataract or grå starr as its called in sweden.. many people have glasses so does it work 100% w glasses? What exactly is this for what games are improved with this(only seen assassins creed valhall) Thanks

[@WatchMysh]

Watch the video to see a few games I tried it out with. Glasses shouldn't be a problem since the tracker uses non visible light to collect its data.

[@billpii6314]

yes it works with glasses and its mostly for flight sims and driving games but there are other they try to make it fit into but it real use is flight and car racing sims, or anything where you need to move your head around to look at stuff.

[@billpii6314]

For reliable Eye tracking, I have to be 26 inches from the sensor, and for head tracking, it's a lot more. I can walk into my room, and it will track me from at least 5 ft away, but for your head, it's best within 3 feet..

[@WatchMysh]

That's roughly what I have measured, too

[@billpii6314]

Forget eyetracking it basically worthless, Its just thee to sell headtrackers IMO. Serious;y it does basically nothing and if you are into DCS they say to turn off eye tracking. .

[@WatchMysh]

@@billpii6314 It's a byproduct from medical products Tobii also makes afaik. I think it's fine. I like it it in msfs.

[@bwest0411]

The problem is when someone gets something for free you feel like you should leave or do a good review. Amazon stopped people from doing this because it’s not a real review. The question is if you spent 250 dollars on this would it still be worth it? You wouldn’t know because you didn’t buy it.

[@WatchMysh]

@@bwest0411 let me explain it like that: in the beginning it's exciting to get new stuff, later on it's just a job. I don't feel the need to "give sth back" anymore. The free exposition is worth 10x more than just the price of the product. After testing sth I totally know if I'd buy it because well... If tested is. To answer your question: I'd buy the Tobii if money was no problem at all. It's a quality product. In any other case I'd get the Trackhat v2 since it does the head tracking good enough and I personally don't really need the eye tracking.

[@bwest0411]

@@WatchMysh Thank you for the explanation. I have the TrackIR already and was wondering if the Tobii is worth it for the eye tracking. I have never used eye tracking so I don’t now what it would be good for but it sounds cool. lol

[@WatchMysh]

@@bwest0411 judging from other review I think you already have the best head tracking. The best thing about the Tobii is that you don't have to wear anything to use the tracking.

[@bwest0411]

@@WatchMysh thank you

[@billpii6314]

@@bwest0411 eye tracking is worthless right now its a gimmick to sell you a head tracker. It is very limited in actual use.

[@Bigboss-t8b]

i cant find the experience app

[@WatchMysh]

It's on the Tobii website and part of the driver. It's also on the windows store.

[@abihah1663]

Mine does not work in Dcsworld. Dcsworld shows it in control.

[@WatchMysh]

@@abihah1663 did you fix it in the meantime?

[@abihah1663]

@@WatchMysh no. It works in msfs2020 but still no luck with dcs

[@WatchMysh]

@@abihah1663 Strange. Did you ask Tobii support?

[@Xephyrra]

Nice review! Speaking of tracking, I noticed you don't really have any VR-related videos in your channel, any plans on doing VR-related content?

[@WatchMysh]

Thanks! :) I'm totally planning VR content and already got some rough scripts outlined. Problem is as always: time. I'm like 3 months behind schedule with everything I want to post on the channel including game reviews I got keys sent for. Never thought this to be remotely possible a few years ago lol ...

[@ReepsWasteOfTime]

@@WatchMyshwhat VR headset so you use? I have been using a quest 3 but it’s mainly for beatsaber. Warthunder top tier sim is also really fun with it.

[@WatchMysh]

@@ReepsWasteOfTime Reverb G2

[@Wolfhound223]

Just bought Tobii 5 alass my main flying game is IL2 :/ however I don't play FlightSim 2020 :D

[@WatchMysh]

@@Wolfhound223 well that's good and bad at the same time :D

[@billpii6314]

@@WatchMysh lol does it even work in IL2? I thought I read it didn't.

[@WatchMysh]

@@billpii6314 it does you need another software as a bridge though. Sucks.

[@dalelc43]

Tobii sent you a unit, you did not buy it. THIS VIDEO IS SPONSORED!

[@WatchMysh]

@@dalelc43 Yes, that's what I also say in the beginning. Sponsored means they pay money for the review ("This video is sponsored by..."). In my case I just got the product for free. KZbin is not my main stream of income, so I don't care whether I upset a company or not which means I have no problem uploading a negative review. Tobii had no editorial control and there wasn't any contract.

[@billpii6314]

@@WatchMysh Money or a product worth money is the same you are getting something of value.

[@oilguygamer1744]

Your reviews are normally brilliant. but nearly all aircraft Sims nowadays only need open track, I spent $115 dollars for TrackIR. it was great, but Tobis good but overly expensive, look back on your own review of the Chinese version of the same type of head tracking device.

[@WatchMysh]

Thanks :) I mention the Trackhat V2 at the end of the video. It does nearly the same head tracking job for less than half the cost. Tobii adds the eye tracking and the convenient software. It also looks good and is made of high quality materials. But it's pricey.

[@billpii6314]

@@WatchMysh the pricist,m shouoldn't it be able to do more than Beam for that price?

[@Zetler]

I'm not going to buy a $300 tracker that doesn't work for everything. Tobi need to increase their support one way or another.

[@WatchMysh]

Yes.Problem is the outdated API it seems. So either Tobii or the IL2 team need to act.

[@WatchMysh]

@peterpickguitar Ouch

[@joeylindblom9421]

BUYER BEWARE!!!! I would watch out, THIS PRODUCT IS SHIT. Seriously 3-5 hours of setup every time there's ANY changes to your computer. Uninstall reinstall uninstall, reboot, clear the files, reboot again, manually download driver. Uninstall again. ON and ON every single windows update, or even a small driver update. I have had this tracker since early 2024, I have used in maybe 3 hours where it worked. Usually I cant be bothered to go through this process every time I want to use it. So I just don't. Even Tobii themselves recommend literally 3rd party software like REVO uninstaller to clear this off your PC. Because its so deeply rooted once installed, that even a trace of the old installation file, will jeopardize the new installation attempt. BUYER BEWARE!!!!

[@WatchMysh]

@@joeylindblom9421 that's really bad. I didn't have any of these problems though. 5 years old Windows 10, regular updates and lots of driver changes all the time since I review stuff. No problems at all. If what you experience would be common, no one would buy anything from Tobii. Hope you can get the issue fixed.

[@billpii6314]

@@WatchMysh I think he's a TrackIr 5 sales man. I've had NONE of that none. I call BS on that BS story

[@stahlknecht7872]

non sponsored! „Tobi send me this tracker…“. 😂

[@WatchMysh]

@@stahlknecht7872 There's a difference between a free product and a sponsored video. Sponsored = Tobii pays money for the review. Most other reviews are sponsored. In this case there's no contract and no editorial control. Just the free product. I don't care about free products since KZbin isn't my main source of income.