Kelly Gissendaner | Was Her Execution Warranted?

[@emilyhollis4231]

I'm grateful for my mom every single day for making sure I grew up in a nonviolent household. This and many many other things, of course. When I look back at awful horrible people I went to school with over the years, I realize they probably were being raised in violence. My grandkids tell me about classmates constantly who are obviously being raised in horrific conditions. Anyway, thanks Dr Grande.

[@barbaragremaud3499]

You are so likely right. It’s easier to feel compassion and empathy for children and young adults. Once they grow up and perpetrate abuses themselves, it’s harder to be compassionate.

[@kimjohnson8471]

"Usually attacking people in a therapy session is not considered an appropriate theaputic technique. " Best quote of December 6, 2021!

[@sadiyasaleh233]

Doctor grande: "I can picture one of those prison officials saying if we use this drug it can kill someone". As heartbreaking as this case is,I can't help giggling at your savage sense of humor.

[@myozbubble]

I hope her kids were raised in a loving and stable environment. I cannot imagine what it would be like for them nor, what kind of support they would need to be well-balanced people.

[@scottricci5063]

Nothing is hopeless, all is possible in Christ.

[@lnc-to4ku]

I was stunned that she said nothing towards her children before her death!

[@damienhunt4264]

I vey much doubt that you hope has been realized.

[@scottricci5063]

@@kevinhornbuckleGod gave man dominion over the earth and a free will. You have to want to believe. You have to want not to. But if you believe and have faith, prayers to God can b answered if in accordance to His will.

[@scottricci5063]

@@kevinhornbuckle only upset if you choose sin and evil over good and righteousness. He doesn't want people serving him as preset robots. He wants you to choose to follow a path of truth and righteous life rather than sin and death. And so does He love us that He gave us an out by having His Son in human form who lived without sin as a sacrifice for our sins, so all we have to do to be forgiven for our transgressions against life and truth is to repent and believe in His Son's sacrifice and ascension over death for us. The prize is everlasting life.

[@kelliearnold8498]

Very interesting and heartbreaking. My sister-in-laws funeral was today. No more suffering for her. Very well done as usual.

[@dureka1908]

I'm so sorry Kellie. No more suffering indeed.

[@ladymopar2024]

I'm sorry for your loss sweetheart

[@emmaphilo4049]

Sorry for your loss🙏🙏🙏

[@jg7u]

@Ben Lurie wut.

[@auntyharry]

I am so sorry for your loss. May God comfort you as you grieve her passing. Prayers from Australia.

[@Direkin]

"Experiencing trauma can hinder one's growth". I've heard this before, and it certainly makes me wonder how much better I could have been if my father wasn't the violent, abusive type (and my mother the passive abusive type).

[@noodle.doodles]

I wonder this myself sometimes. I suppose the best survivors can do is keep moving forward and try to still be the best possible versions of ourselves.

[@Direkin]

@@noodle.doodles Indeed. Life goes on, and we just have to make the best of a shit situation.

[@Direkin]

@Over It Nope. Not even close, but thanks for playing.

[@noodle.doodles]

That wasn’t my intention at all I was just trying to be hopeful. :(

[@janeyrevanescence12]

I'm still trying to figure this out myself. My father was emotionally, verbally and physically abusive and my mom did her best to protect her children. And I'm so socially stunted and awkward that I was diagnosed with autism (in reality, it most likely was trauma caused by CPTSD). What was done to us was awful. It should never have happened. But now we have a choice to make: Do we repeat the cycle...or do we break the wheel?

[@Patriot_Lady1776]

It's always fascinating why people don't just walk away instead of killing someone - except when money is involved.

[@TecOneself]

money and to not work, no values, no love, no coherence for the whole either.

[@peziki]

Low life trailer trash reflecting their upbringing.

[@JelloFluoride]

The folly of human pride.

[@guest_5992]

@@peziki there's plenty of low life mansion dwellers.

[@BlearyBoy1]

Mental Health issues, I'm not condoning anything here, but combine that with social deprivation and an abusive upbringing, you can get this.

[@annal7364]

Holy moly, Dr. G, are you sure you’re not related to Data? He too does not need sleep in order to function within normal parameters. I look forward to learning about this tomorrow! 😘😴

[@christopher.m.dickinson0315]

I can relate. Who needs sleep always something to do or new to learn.

[@LargeInCharge77]

Your pretty much dead when your sleeping, and u sleep like a third of your life. So litteraly wake up sheeple :O

[@rockyevans1584]

Sleep is what makes life so enjoyable, not sure how yall can function, i need 9 or so ideally, 8 is ok but 7 im bagged and 6 dead lol. You cant be interested if youre completely spent

[@sunrae7680]

😀😁🤣😂 Being human is overrated.

[@jht3fougifh393]

Everyone needs enough sleep, or they'll begin experiencing various, increasingly debilitating symptoms. But I guess the exact amount required to function will always depend on the individual. Crazy how different our exact biological limitations can be.

[@jenilynneful]

That was fascinating information about trauma and growth

[@browniehendricks3726]

In my Rorshach test I see one million viewers for you Dr. Grande. You certainly deserve that honor.

[@zenawarrior7442]

3 videos today? Yeah...I needed these. Bad history no excuse for murder. Thanks for all your hard work & up to 926K subs now 😊🥳👏💟💟

[@ladymopar2024]

Is a bloopers for a million subscribers

[@thelostronin]

You had me excited! I thought I had missed one. But there were only 2 lol.

[@thelostronin]

@@ladymopar2024 hell yeah! Great idea!

[@simonw1313]

There's never an excuse for murder (or it becomes something else) but there's often, it not always, an explanation for why any person commits murder. Folk seem to have huge issues with mistaking that explanation for an excuse.

[@zenawarrior7442]

@@simonw1313 What is your point exactly? Growing WEARY of these critics who pick on choice of words. Anything better to do than insult folks? BTW there is NEVER A REASON, OR AN EXCUSE, FOR MURDER. They are one in the same if you think real hard....

[@renee1961]

RIP Doug 💔🙏💐 Prayers for his Family, and her Children. I've Lost My Very Best Friend, and Mentor, my Auntie, to Murder when I was 17. She was only 34. Our Family has Never Recovered. I understand the Grief, and Heartache. You just explained something huge to me! Thank You! I Suffer from PTSD, and it's affected my entire life.

[@renee1961]

Dr. Grande helped me understand how Trauma affects our Emotional Maturity. Thank You, again Dr. Grande!

[@CATNAPREAL1188]

Greetings Dr G. I'm So slowed down by my traumatic past that I'm about to be a newborn. 😢 Thanks for the content. Keep up the Good Work !! Sincerely 🙏 & ❤️ !

[@wordlady88]

Full disclosure: I do not usually support capital punishment. I'm from Harris County Texas and boy oh boy are they death penalty happy here. Makes me absolutely sick to think of all the possibly innocent (and flat out innocent) people who face this fate. That being said, I do understand the argument for the death penalty in cases of murder for financial gain. It's especially cold and callous to put a price on someone's life. She was her own worst enemy here. She could have taken the plea deal and avoided this fate all together.

[@Rompler_Rocco]

⬆️ Was this comment really posted *4 months* before any others? Was this video originally posted at that time, and then abruptly made private until now? Is this some AI spam bot algorithm? A timestamp glitch? My critical thinking circuits are smoldering over here.

[@wordlady88]

@@Rompler_Rocco im a patreon and made that comment when he released to patreon as a pre release.

[@Bibiana862]

@@wordlady88 TY cuse I was breaking my mind how is this possible lol

[@Rompler_Rocco]

@@wordlady88 🤦‍♂️ Thank you!!

[@emmaphilo4049]

@@wordlady88 thanks, I was wondering too and thought KZbin fell into a time vortex or something lol

[@betterbee1304]

After working on my final project that I'm already freaking out about because it's due the 12th, turning on Dr Grande is a good way to unwind. I've never heard about this case. So much violence. Thanks Dr Grande for consistently giving me new information to ruminate on ❤️

[@ChristinePerez903]

That sad that Kelly didn’t get help that she needed. Thanks for the second video Dr Grande!!!

[@cottontails9003]

Thank you Dr Grande.,for fair and sensitive analysis. It was a sad and tragic situation. Thank you Dr Grande. Great analysis and topic Also 3 videos in one day ,makes my day perfect. Thank you once again Dr Grande.

[@thelostronin]

"If we use this stuff it could kill somebody." So funny. Sadly I think that conversation must have happened almost verbatim and no one was being sarcastic. An inkblot test to determine brain damage! That clinician should be given a an award! Most creative way to misuse and outdated test.

[@simoncullum5019]

I always wonder if they use the anti septic wipe for the lethal injection

[@averyhodges2302]

More than likely it was the worry that it actually wouldn’t kill her. If the drug is less effective it could lead to just poisoning her and causing problems, without actually causing her death

[@erniebuchinski3614]

@@simoncullum5019 Well, I certainly hope so. It wouldn't do to have an infection set in! No, wait . . .

[@Jeanne90275]

This is a good analysis of the crime, but she knew she was guilty and should have taken the plea deal offered. I don't see this as a death penalty case; the death penalty should be reserved for the worst of the worst.

[@thorgrootsweetrabbit2244]

Yes people who have committed multiple murders, or have aggravated factor's such as S/assault or torture.

[@alexblaze8878]

It’s considered more heinous to plan and plot someone’s murder over a period of time (months in this case) than to kill someone in the heat of the moment. To ponder and think about killing someone for that long and then to deceive and plan it out takes a very cold hearted person; I have less sympathy for them than I do for a drive by murder by gang members (for example). At least with the latter it’s usually a spur of the moment decision. All that time plotting Doug’s murder and not once did she reconsider and put a stop to it. Not only that but she was more than willing to let someone else take the blame for it afterwards. So not only did she lack compassion or empathy for months prior to the murder but she continued to show no remorse afterwards.

[@DannyKa-x8z]

it was reserved and deserved for her ... Good riddance

[@ailleananaithnid2566]

@@alexblaze8878 That may be true but you’re referring to one aggravating factor. Still, the murder was in no way atrociously heinous & cruel. There was no torture involved. In addition, there were mitigating factors present. The bottom line, however, was that the state’s star witness got caught in a number of lies. Further, he took a deal to save his own skin. It Is a bitter irony in our law when the guy who personally committed the murder ends up with a lighter sentence. If people familiarize themselves with the Gregg decision (the SCOTUS cases to reinstate capital punishment: Gregg v. Georgia, Jurek v. Texas, and Proffitt v. Florida) it’s clear that our contemporary use of the death penalty is not in line with the Gregg decision.

[@aarondavis8943]

@@ailleananaithnid2566 Personally committing the murder doesn't necessarily make for the the worse offender. If the driving force behind a killing happens to be the one not involved physically, that person still deserves the worse punishment. The fact is, without Kelly, this murder would not have occurred. And it's likely she would have looked for another co-conspirator to do the dirty work if he'd been unwilling. Charles Manson is a pretty good analogue here. He didn't personally kill anyone. He also suffered horrendous abuse and neglect in his childhood. But he was without even the capacity for empathy, and so was Kelly. In fact, Manson's neglect is corroborated by witnesses and records. Kelly's isn't. It's not ironic that people receive lighter sentences through plea deals. It's a reality that we have to accept if we want less innocent people in jail, and more guilty people in jail.

[@raechelgrantham8134]

Thanks for the great content yet again! You're my favorite channel right now and I feel like you spoil us by uploading so frequently. I also recently purchased your books and I'm enjoying the first one immensely.

[@ladymopar2024]

I really really enjoyed his books first one I'm waiting for the second one

[@ChaCha.44]

I’ve never heard of “financial narcissism”! I’d love a video on that, Dr. G!! Loved your analysis of this case, I’d never heard of it before. I also found it odd how Doug was supposedly killed so “easily” after he had so many opportunities to NOT be killed by Greg…like, why would Doug (or any typical person for that matter) NOT try to at least put up a good fight for his life that was being threatened?! I mean, he was bigger in size compared to little Greggie!! AND Greg only had a knife, which isn’t good, I know…but come on, it’s not like he had a firearm held at the back of Doug’s head or on his temple the entire time! I found it so unbelievable that Doug did NOT even TRY to physically injure Greg, get the knife from him, or just simply bolt and run away as fast as he could?! Why not even hit the brakes super hard while driving, or create a kind of “uproar” in the streets (like screaming out the window or even just WAVING WILDLY out of it for Pete’s sakes!) to draw attention to the car they were in? I know I sure would’ve tried pretty much all of the above had it been me in the driver’s seat, including driving to the the police station, or heck, ANY busy parking lot would do just as well too! 🙄 Ummm I think most ppl would do the same, just as Dr. G stated! Just more proof that Greg couldn’t have really been the “mastermind” behind Doug’s senseless murder! Actually, using the term “mastermind” when thinking of those two just seems so wrong. She may have been smarter in other areas than Greg, but I doubt this woman killer was a genius or anything like that. Just money-hungry…so greedy that she got sloppy…well, she let Greg get too sloppy also…so ofc she got caught! 👏 RIP Doug. Sorry you got mixed up wayyyy too many times with that horrible, nasty…thing. 🤢

[@dianevanderlinden3480]

there is 'financial enslavement' and 'financial domination' where the guy gets off on having a woman basically drain his bank account. It's often done online and they often never meet in IRL. I learned about that while researching phone sex workers.

[@letsgo9901]

Imelda Marcos knew about Financial Narcissism !

[@LaniLanilei]

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[@LaniLanilei]

Or look out for a police car and do an illegal traffic move like running a green light

[@ChaCha.44]

@@LaniLanilei excellent idea, yes!! 👏 👏

[@murderedx8018]

That part where you said that experiencing trauma can hinder one's growth, I really feel that. I experienced something really bad when I was 21 and I don't feel like the 3 years after the fact, that I had grown. I didn't even feel like I was my actual age, that I was still 21 the years following

[@abcefg4504]

@Over It you lack empathy

[@lnc-to4ku]

What an incredibly fascinating video you put together, Dr. Grande! I never knew that mental and emotional development gets interrupted after a trauma. On a lighter note, your plants look amazing, and seeing that little guy always makes me smile! Also, you look very handsome in that shirt!

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Dr. Grande, Please do a video on WeWork and that guy who was able to delude so many people. What a character and what a story. The company went from being worth BILLIONS to being bankrupt in a matter of weeks.

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[@sharondowling8896]

Another excellent analysis- which also points out our incredible lack of mental health services, and huge flaws in our so called "justice system". Lawyers on both sides of the case dropped the ball. This is one reason the death penalty should be abolished in our country! Justice shouldn't depend upon having the best defense money can buy! The holes in Greg's story are huge- yet he was able to take a deal. You have shed an important light on the effects of severe trauma throughout one's childhood and adolescence. I wish our justice system was better equipped to address this- unfortunately our system is focused on punishment and revenge. Not justice, and certainly not rehabilitation. Thank you again, Dr. Grande, for your insight!

[@andrew_koala2974]

If the USA was a living being - it would itself be in therapy or on death row. Yhe US refuses to be part of the ECHR [Europec Court of Human Rights - because the USA like China - IRAN and SAUDI ARABIA do not recognize nor uphold human rights - being the blood-thirst terrorist POLICE and War-mongering lying state that it is. - And the Presidents are mere puppets to the CORPORATE and BANKING stakeholders who hold all the power. The President is merely the ADMINISTRATOR of the CORPORATE GOVERNMENT debt. The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA has become completely bankrupt in world leadership - financial credit and its reputation for courage, vision and human rights.

[@TheTrevelyansway]

Do United States is a beacon of light in the world. The justice system isn't perfect but it's better than 99% of other countries. I love this country and you lefty lunatics can piss off.

[@andrew_koala2974]

@@TheTrevelyansway 99% of other countries? Which other countries. Explain also how it can be better when it has the largest prison population per capita - There is no other country that exceeds it.

[@Tina06019]

@@TheTrevelyansway I am loyal to the USA (because it is my home), but our justice system is a mess.

[@Bhappi137]

I have had life long trauma due to issues that happened to me as a child and then again as a teenager , I wondered why I feel immature , Thank you Dr Grande you have been able to finally provide an answer for me

[@HanHanMC]

So close to a million! Very exciting, you deserve it for sure.

[@sevenitta-_-]

Once again Dr. Grande making me chuckle while listening to a sad, sick story.

[@wrmlm37]

Good heaven! This reminds me of the State who botched an execution, said they would do better, and the very next death row inmate, they didnt have the correct meds. It was absolutely incredible to me that something SO important is just turfed to someone who obviously didn't give a single f**k how well they carried out their duties. Edit: this feels like one of those situations where the sociopathy was "made", not born. Very, very sad. I'm sorry for all concerned.

[@eadweard.]

What makes it "SO important"? I would agree if this were about the right dose of morphine for a patient in a hospital. But it doesn't seem overly important for an execution.

[@Heyu7her3]

​@@eadweard.lethal injection legally has to be painless

[@thereal4113]

It is so nice to hear Dr. Grande's 🌵🌵🌵🌵🌵soothing voice, even though the topic is gut wrenching. I don't understand why women are popping out babies like a gumball machine. The cards are stacked against the children from the beginning, including Kelly. Thanks Dr. Grande.

[@sixthsenseamelia4695]

Women don't "pop out babies like a gumball machine" without servicemen refilling the hopper.

[@thereal4113]

@@sixthsenseamelia4695 Agreed. The men are equally responsible. Maybe they should get a vasectomy at puberty and have it reversed when they have been vetted. 🤣

[@thesongbird2383]

Talk about popping out babies... makes me concerned about Alec Baldwin's young children. It's always the precious children who really suffer from sins of the careless parents.

[@thereal4113]

@@thesongbird2383 Alec Baldwin seems like a wack a doo, not to mention his wife Hillary, oh excuse me, Hillaria with the on again off again Spanish accent. I would also be concerned about the children.

[@ultraviolet6989]

Dr. Grande can you please analyze the Stanford Prison Experiment?

[@eeericaa]

The devil works hard but dr grande works harder.

[@jadetaylor2443]

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[@cirrbagel430]

Dr. Grande, could you analyze the KZbinr James Kingston? He free climbs some incredibly dangerous heights on cranes and other high structures. He free hangs with one hand hundreds of feet above the ground. Looking to understand how someone's brain might work who does that and what would drive them to risk their life so recklessly

[@pattygravs6354]

Ooh that sounds really good, I have always wondered about people who do extreme sports like those people who jump off mountains on glide suits.

[@greatamericandreamrealty802]

That would be interesting!

[@greatamericandreamrealty802]

@@pattygravs6354 Me too!

[@artvandelayRFC]

@Patty Gravs Mostly people from upper middle and upper class backgrounds. It gives them a bit of danger in their life to make up for having such an easy upbringing.

[@Heyu7her3]

"Adrenaline junkies" usually have ADHD hyperactive type

[@lowelllarsen5947]

I never heard of this case before- thanks for reviewing and the objective analysis

[@marysylvie2012]

Kelly was doomed from the beginning. But Doug was too naive and did not listen to his parents!

[@bohemianscrapgirl]

Very sad story regarding this young woman. Thanks Dr. Grande for all the time you put into your videos. It doesn't go unnoticed.

[@emiiimm7436]

the sad story is she killed an innocent man

[@bohemianscrapgirl]

@@emiiimm7436 her story is sad as well. Obviously, it doesn't mitigate her actions at all. She has been more than punished.

[@Lenn869]

thats not a young woman thats a grown ass man lol

[@bohemianscrapgirl]

@@Lenn869 the story and the person that was executed was a woman.

[@Lenn869]

@@bohemianscrapgirl I am aware. I was referring to her as a man to insult her based on her generally unfeminine and brutish appearance.

[@stevie4641]

Dr Grande, I literally laughed out loud at your comment about the medication used for the death penalty being cloudy and perhaps someone remarked "If we use this stuff...it could kill somebody".

[@qingyunwang3802]

Drugs used for lethal injection need to be "safe" to make sure to process appears as humanely as the protocol demands, otherwise the state risks getting sued by the condemned's family for wrongful death, or better yet, violation of the Eighth Amendment and gets death sentence suspended (like that case in Ohio).

[@alexblaze8878]

Honestly a .40 caliber or .45 ACP round through the back of the head would be quicker, much cheaper, and absolutely painless. The condemned wouldn’t even hear the shot that killed them. One second you’re there, and a split second later you’re gone. I’m compassionate even for death row inmates in that I don’t believe we should make them suffer-their punishment is death not torture or undue suffering. There are faster, more efficient ways of executing someone than using lethal drugs.

[@qingyunwang3802]

@@alexblaze8878 The “humane” is not for the inmate but for the witnesses. The second drug in cocktail paralyzes the condemned so even they are in agony they can’t scream and a façade of peace is preserved. Gunshot maybe more humane to the condemned but it creates a bloody mess and that only pushes the population against death penalty.

[@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263]

They should die how their victims did. That might deter some of this. Oh so you tortured and r@p€d your victim for days then allowed dogs to rip them apart then you get the same.

[@alexblaze8878]

@@qingyunwang3802 eh, put a canvas bag over their head, no fuss, no mess. We’ve gotten so soft we’re now sympathizing more with the family of the condemned than we are with the family of the victims. I don’t think the victim’s family would care one bit if it was “messy” but fine, put a bag over his head then. I do see your point about public perception-bunch of pansies can’t handle real life.

[@eadweard.]

It really isn't very difficult to kill a mammal quickly and effectively. These supposed complications are entirely contrived.

[@Blainiac_Sports]

Wow she actually was executed. Of course this was bad, but wow seems a little harsh in this case compared to so many other stories. Again thanks for the video.

[@jhonklan3794]

eh not really.

[@DrDemented9885]

No it wasn’t evil to conspire her husbands murder and hid his body. Without her none of this happen.

[@BlacksFirst-xo1kr]

Well said Well said same thing I was saying

[@joko09010]

Phew! I was such searching for a new video! Yay…Dr. G to the rescue! 💪🏻

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

I just finished watching your new podcast on BGM, which was fantastic, only to see an upload on this channel! 😃 I am truly grateful for all that you do.💞

[@cottontails9003]

Hello, Rejane how are you going my friend. I don't like, the death penalty. We don't have it in Australia, and I'm so pleased we don't. Have a good morning /evening. Its Monday the 29th at 6-05pm.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

@@cottontails9003 Hi Julianne, good morning! Probably that’s a good evening for you. I agree with you, I don’t endorse capital punishment. I hope that one day it can be abolished.😕

[@mistrjt9213]

“ if we use this stuff, you can kill somebody! “This Hass to be one of my top 10 favorite Dr. grande burns.

[@renee1961]

Good evening, again, Dr. Grande. 🙋🌵🪴🌵🪴 Thank You!

[@donalynette]

I think many have had trauma in our lives & experienced arrested development. I am opposed to the death penalty across board. She had a very painful childhood. Saying life isn’t fair, does not solve the problem. Yes I agree with the Dr., on her guilt, but no she did not deserve death.

[@t2av159]

Child killers and pedos deserve the death penalty

[@billhildebrand5053]

This has as much relevance as when I saw it on Patreon. What an interminable circumstance this is. There are so many facets which could have been changed based on variable choices which could have been made. Thanks Dr. Grande.

[@ordinarychildhood]

I really like your analyzation of these situations. I don't think that there is one video that I have seen which I didn't like. please continue what you are doing. I hope my children can benefit from your videos one day.

[@Artwbesties]

12:12 Thank you for explaining this so well. I really appreciate it, it puts a lot of things in perspective.

[@ghadamamdouheskarous]

Dr Grande analysis is always great

[@chasepalagi7675]

8:17 it is not often I laugh at videos but Dr. G'S quip and deadpan delivery got me this time!

[@brianpratt3224]

Two in one day. Good job, Doctor.

[@maren2651]

What struck me was the part when Kelly was noted to display seemingly fake, over the top emotions, which is a symptom of Histrionic Personality traits. I know that wasn’t explicitly brought up, though it is a Cluster B disorder, but I’d love to see a video covering how Histrionic traits could manifest in relation to a crime. Like a general overview. Thank you for another great video Dr. Grande! These have been keeping me sane during my partial psych hospitalization. The irony, I know, but I find it fascinating nonetheless.

[@Allypooh88]

I admit I believe in the death penalty, but this case is just a little too uncertain for me to feel it was warranted here. Thanks for another thought-provoking video ❤️

[@damienhunt4264]

The death penalty never acts as a deterrent and is incongruent with a civilized society.

[@stellabirdthistle3585]

I love your wry sense of humour. Very informative videos. Thank you.

[@nancyzehr3679]

That is a really nice shirt! Looks warm and comfy.

[@LS-ny8mr]

Very good Dr.Grande always love the dry humor too!

[@theresakarr4302]

Yes very interesting dialog. Tyvm . It was very satisfying to hear that financial narcissism is a real condition. I was in a relationship with someone who is that way. When I told him he was a financial narssacist he said there is no such thing. Lol !

[@FreyjaYngling]

You know who might be fun to analyze? Amy and Samy from Amy's Baking Company.

[@natalielawyerchick]

Sounds like the prison wanted to delay the execution themselves. This is sad all around.

[@purplerain2314]

Thank you for explaining the probable reason for her immaturity in relation to PTSD as now I know why I was immature. 💚

[@renee1961]

Same here. I understand now. Dr. Grande is great!

[@IdeologieUK]

04:50 am in the UK. I’m in the first five minutes of the video. I would not normally comment on a video without watching it completely but Dr G asked if capital punishment was warranted in this case. I say no, not, never. A country who has ‘a right to life’ in their constitution should not take the life of its citizens.

[@coiledsteel8344]

NO Capitol Punishment, Regardless? Maybe You Bleeding Heart Liberals Would Change Your Attitude IF Terrorists Got Real Busy There.

[@Bibiana862]

@@coiledsteel8344 did you even listen what kind crime was it about?

[@IdeologieUK]

@@coiledsteel8344 The problem with the death penalty is that your probability of making it to death row falls on a few basic factors that include a highly troubled upbringing resulting in serious mental health issues, the likelihood that you were brought up in a single parent household and that you’re poor and unable to mount a good defence, either to disprove the state’s case, or to present mitigating factors. Aside from all that, there are enough exonerated to show that it’s not a fail proof system. The many years of appeals is very costly for the state, notwithstanding that the death penalty makes those on death row live practically in solitary confinement which is an 8th amendment constitutional problem. This is the opinion of many liberals and many conservatives. There would be fewer murderers in the US if social welfare intervention happened early enough, if single motherhood wasn’t so bloody attractive, if more fathers were involved in their children’s lives instead of gangs taking the role of ‘brothers and fathers’. It seems all of these are ignored except for the final intervention which is homicide by the state. The UK, Europe and most of the rest of the world has done away with it. It’s only a question of time.

[@wadegoodwin6773]

This is such an eye opener Doc, thank you so much indeed.....

[@dmitrymanchenkov2996]

Thanks a lot, Dr. Grande! ''A safer lethal drug...'' Beautiful! Yes, that's one of the things that can pretty much puzzle anyone, just like the question of why they have to sterilize needles or the spot of injection on the skin of the person to be executed. Are they afraid to bring some infection into a dead body? It would be very interesting to hear your analysis of the case of Jön Andreas Nödtveidt, a famous Swedish singer and musician.

[@ingridgabriel7721]

The good doctor has the driest sense of humor on the planet. He makes me guffaw, and I am not a big guffawer.

[@Swansong321]

Executions are never warranted..it's murder..how can you murder someone to demonstrate that murder is wrong?..and in this case it is clear that she was vulnerable and disadvantaged..what does they say about us as a society?

[@damienhunt4264]

Exactly. It's incongruent.

[@eadweard.]

The death penalty is not murder. So no such contradiction exists.

[@munhl]

Its more about protecting society. There have been death row prisoners, that have had their sentences commuted to life, then been relased after 20-25 years. Plenty of these people were only stopped becuase of being caught and admit that they would have continued. I also think that it is a way for the authorities to rectify their own earlier mistakes when criminals have been released early, allowed to plea to lesser crimes, have had charges dropped etc so they are free to commit further crimes, in short they could have been stopped years earlier. Execution has to also act as a deterant, lots of accused have plead guilty just to take the death penalty of the table. It also has to do with public perception about the criminal justice system, if someone commits heinous crimes for decades and then gets a sentence of 25 years but is eligible for parole, that wouldn't be considered by a majority of the public as a sentence that fits the crime. Also, look at some of the more famous crimes around the world, some sentencing in European countries and small island nations are very lenient.

[@darkdistiller]

Hey Doctor Grande! Hope everything is good with you. So I just finished watching House of Gucci, and despite what you think of the movie of the accents I think the character of Patrizia Reggiani to be quite fascinating and think that what be a great subject to talk about.

[@sarahm9723]

I just saw this story on Killer Couples. Many say that she did it because she spent her younger years in a home that was less than idyllic - abusive, unstable, without peace. For every murderer who grew up in such circumstances, there are many people who grew up in similar difficult circumstances but killed no one at all. Likewise, there are many people who grew up in decent homes, who went on to commit murder. Ultimately the truth is that every step you take is a choice you are making. No one else is making your decisions. You are the ultimate decider.

[@purrfection2208]

Not everyone should have children. Kelly's life was messed up from the start. She asked that the murderer be convicted...well.

[@farnazrostami5302]

Excellent analysis 💯. An other case which proves that how domestic violence can ruin lives 😞. Thank you doctor. BTW: miss the cute lamp 🙂.

[@GelatinousCube-jw8vg]

Any chance of covering the case of Paris Lane? Either way please keep up the good work

[@michaelgreer9023]

Gissendaner: Given the number of abusive relationships and references to death/killing, how can anyone with a sane mind deny the function of the "death wish" as part of the human apparatus? Freud's speculative treatment of this impulse is developed in his work Beyond the Pleasure Principle (1920). We can speculate that life presents situations of enormous tension and stress and the death drive is merely a response to that uncomfortable situation. Bataille develops this theme using the terms "continuity" and "discontinuity" in his work Erotism (English translation, 1986). Discontinuity is our separation from one another: you in the video audience, Dr. Grande as the speaker. There's a gap. Gaps make people uncomfortable. We seek "continuity." Erotic behavior is always pointing to the limit condition: death or extinction. The facts are diverse and plural. Only the simple minded believe that life is only about living. It's actually about dying. Notice that "life," especially in Kelly's case, was just one delay after another until the final resolution. Even the chemical used to kill her was subjected to delays. Delay, delay, delay. That's life. But that seems true of all of us. Until there are no more delays, and no more posts. The most basic "trauma" is birth itself. It's always in the background.

[@kimberlysmith7311]

Very good analysis Dt. Grande. 👍 These stories are so sad. This is another case I had never heard about, until now. You brought up pertinent points about her mental health clinicians, and lack of believability of the killer's story.) To me there was reasonable doubt that she was involved, just from what I heard here, but it seems likely that she was involved, however death, yes, was too harsh a punishment. 🙂 Just my opinion, we all have one like... lmao 🤣 have a great day. Dr. Grande. Your down to earth 🌎 , soft spoken,, sometimes funny,, and objective professional approach is just , sexy, Like Clark Kent before he reveals he is Suoerman. 💕💕💕💕💕💨💨💨💨💨

[@feeltheillinois]

i agree with capital punishment but this one doesnt seem to warrant it

[@glendasully]

I still believe that even when someone is raised in a violent & abusive home that they have a choice as to how to live their life as an adult. I, too, suffer from PTSD because of childhood mental, emotional, & physical abuse. I swore I'd never be like my mother & father. My children were raised with love & nurtured & cared for & are well balanced adults

[@glendasully]

@@Jungleboy-z4c Thank you for your service to our country. I hope you are healthy today

[@birdworldist]

Yooo bless up king Grande

[@michael1183]

Regular car reviews did a Dr. Grande reference today on the Colt gts turbo.

[@ladymopar2024]

I guess the whole side of the stand up and his table of doctor Grande's video couldn't take the third video today so they have up and left LOL any and you had a bream screen all would see the floating head. Once again thanks for making send me crazy things that go on in the world today little easier than understand

[@penelopehughes-jones5265]

Looking very trim, Dr G. Not many people can wear that colour and yet it looks fab on you. Very sad case however and agree completely with your findings, I think Kelly's behaviour was enough to prove her childhood abuse was true and as such she certainly didn't deserve to be put to death, not that anyone does imho and of course, Doug certainly didn't either. I learned a lot (as always) I had no idea arrested development was so literal...that's so useful, thank you. Best to you and your loved ones.🙏

[@solid9999fine]

I believe the people analyzing this are giving this woman wayyyy more thought and consideration to her life than she ever gave, and definitely looking to care for her to the insult of her victim and his family. She went where she belonged. What a headache of a person.

[@cameronfielder4955]

Capital punishment is wrong. A civilized society should not execute criminals under any circumstance. Giving the state the power to take lives is a slippery slope.

[@tb-dv1zc]

Your comment may be true of you

[@solid9999fine]

You are giving me a headache....lol.....

[@pyry1948]

A video on Frank Sinatra would be welcome, he had a very interesting personality.

[@faronrich9381]

My family is in construction and has built several houses for family members. The one thing I have learned is that the neighbors are stealing the construction materials. Unless someone is bold enough to bring a truck onto the property, the wood is being stolen one 2*4 or pack of shingles at a time. It's annoying when you realize a neighbor has a new playhouse in their backyard with the same color shingles or siding as your new house.

[@hypercube1432]

Hello Dr. Grande...Hypercube here (AKA David a C.A.D.C. from Jersey). Needless to say: you own the best Speculative-Psycho-Analytic broadcast on KZbin. I am writing to ask if you'd consider to analyze 'The Case of Danyal Hussein'; I believe you could provide a tremendous feedback on this particular case. Take care and Buon Natale.

[@jackiemarsh2470]

Thank You For This Fascinating Video as Always Dr!!👍

[@christinley5213]

Learning experience here!! Didnt know about the trauma and age thing.. interesting!! Always learn new thing from ya.. thx:)

[@lohroc1014]

Can you do a video on the Chad Read shooting? I would like to know your opinion on it.

[@beachboy0505]

Great video 📹 'Justice ⚖ served. American values protected.

[@Cristinamk]

Dr. Grande, I am a Victim Advocate in the state of Georgia. I would like to point out that it isn’t necessary for the death penalty to be sought in order to seek life without parole. There are several ways the prosecutor can request this sentence, but as far as it pertains to the above, all that’s required is that her actions meet the criteria - the prosecutor does not necessarily need to move for it!

[@eadweard.]

Given our current culture, I first assumed that a "victim advocate" would be someone who advocates on behalf of the "victims" of the death penalty.

[@Cristinamk]

@@eadweard. I work for the State and support the victims of violent crimes throughout the course of the judicial process. It’s a very involved job but I adore my work!

[@eadweard.]

@@Cristinamk important work. Thank you for your efforts.

[@Ena48145]

Imagine thinking pleading and getting 25 years is bad only to be sentenced to death..

[@Stichting_NoFa-p]

When I hear the word Rorschach I think of a scary short movie.

[@zero_bs_tolerance8646]

Thanks, Doc.

[@sheilagravely5621]

Evil does exist.

[@UncleBuZ]

Seems to be some sort of kerfuffle goin on with the plants.

[@btetschner]

Thank you for the video.

[@Keish03]

During my PsyD studies I fought tooth and nail to be able to have a Rorschach Test class bc my professors claimed that it was a very important test to know how to administer and only THE BEST knew how. I even collected signatures. Imagine my absolute disappointment and anger when they finally agreed to give us the class and it turned out to be a guessing game test. Its basically a Horoscope. Its utter bullshit and is in NO WAY based in scientific evidence. How and why its still being used is beyond me.

[@gigi9301]

Good point! I guess the same reason that polygraphs are still used as a tool in law enforcement. They are only used as an investigative technique, in hopes to gain confession/information from the suspect...never admissible in court. They might as well use a tarot card reading, but the police will act as if it "shows" truth or guilt, which it does not. If the suspect goes along with the charade, he or she may just "crack" and confess true and/or false information, even though there is in reality no such thing as passing or failing a polygraph.

[@Keish03]

@@gigi9301 Yeah. Its just to me thats manipulation an not a "fair" tactic for finding the truth. Ugh, it sucks that its allowed.

[@gigi9301]

@@Keish03 Police can also pretty much lie about anything to attempt to coax a confession from a suspect. For instance, they can say they have proof/evidence that you did it, they can say well your friend already told on you, etc... The only limits they have in interrogation are that if they have to let you go and you can verify they lied, then of course you would realize the questioning was all for intimidation and for the purpose of obtaining a confession. If you refuse to be questioned and request a lawyer, they also must stop without an attorney present on your behalf, whether it's your own or a court-appointed one. Especially if it's your own (paid out of your own pocket) attorney, the cops will not even try the shady tactics such as "lie detector" tests, screaming and intimidation, and/or lying about what they do or don't know about the crime committed. I'm sorry you went through that experience in school and I can only guess that it was used as a means to get students to reveal personal and/or damning information in order to weed out undesirable and/or "unfit" candidates. It just seems highly unethical.

[@shinskoala7072]

So sad. I know mental health is the point of this video, but never let your murderer take you to a secondary and secluded location.

[@denisewhitaker5116]

Something that always bothers me: when a person is offered a plea deal it does not seem fair. It is asking the person to gamble and to judge those odds. If she was offered 25 w/poss.parole why wouldn't this be an early guide to the eventual sentence? There are so many others that I could tolerate being put to death, but not in this case. And in general imo. Thank you.😘

[@briancrawford8751]

There's actually a term for that, and I think it's called the "trial penalty." Judges are harder on defendants who exercise their right to a jury trial. No, it's not right.

[@ladymopar2024]

No somebody that I knew was killed by her husband he took a plea deal, I hate code deals because all I got was 20 years for taking a life

[@denisewhitaker5116]

Thanks, Brian.

[@denisewhitaker5116]

I'm sorry to hear that. What a weak plea deal to offer to someone who committed murder.

[@olavbakke2889]

The problem is that no one would take the plea deal if they get the same deal after trial. This is game theory and necessary for plea deals to even exist. You can't give people the same punishment after conviction because nobody would ever take the plea deal. This is of course not a real life example, but let's say the prosecutor thinks he has a 50% chance of getting a conviction for 1st or 2nd degree murder which has a maximum penalty of life in prison. He also thinks that there is 40% chance he will be able to prove volentary manslaughter which would likely be around 15 years in prison. And of course a 10% chance he can't prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt. Before the trial it makes sense in this scenario to offer the defendant the option to plea 2nd degree murder for 25 year sentence. This is hedging against the risk that the prosecutor won't be able to prove 1st or 2nd degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt. The defendant might want to accept the plea deal because that means that he'll be able to get out of prison before he dies of old age. During the trial the prosecutor manages to prove 2nd degree murder. The jury has decided the case and there is no reason to offer the lesser sentence to the convicted murderer. The only reason the lower sentence was on the table was because the prosecutor thought he might not have been able to prove 2nd degree murder. The defendant got the option earlier is that there were a chance that he could have gotten less time than the plea assuming the trial went differently. You may think that plea deals in general are kind of arbitrary and I agree. They are currently necessary because everyone has the right to a fair trial and the justice system is overloaded. It simply wouldn't be possible to give everyone a trial which is why a lot of criminal cases are decided by risk of conviction instead of determination of guilt.

[@selfademus]

i think the issue with cloudy execution drugs would be in regard to potency and the possibility of it ɴᴏᴛ killing somebody.