TESTED: EcoFlow DELTA Pro 3 vs. Ultra. Best large portable power station in 2024?

[@CubbyTech]

240vAC seems like it's '2 phase' however this isn't the case. 240vAC is considered single phase. The 120vAC legs come from a half-tap neutral.

[@hardymichael533]

Great EcoFlow delta pro ultra system and EcoFlow delta pro 3 system 😎👍

[@EnriqueReyes]

Great video and comparison between this and the Ultra thank you 😊

[@todd.parker]

You’re very welcome

[@Smileyb8711]

Todd, do you have a link for that EV Charging Adapter you showed at video marker 08:15? It’s for the Delta Pro, right? As the instruction manual shows a different adapter for a DP3.

[@billnott5811]

I desperately want one of these Delta Pro 3 units, but I live in Alaska and either I can’t get one shipped to me or shippers want $1000 to ship to Alaska from eBay. $1000 just for shipping ! can anyone suggest a cheaper way I can get one of these units sent to Alaska ? Thx 😊

[@carmellosown]

Is the Smart Generator dual fuel 2 backwards compatible with the new DP3?

[@todd.parker]

I believe so

[@tlteal]

Not compatible with the original Delta Pro nor the original smart home panel is a dealbreaker for me. Ecoflow has abandoned the very thing (Delta Pro) that made the wildly successful, with little to no backwards compatibility for the original Delta Pro architecture. Solar is still limited to 150V which is a serious limitation as well. But it looks like ecoflow is doing the same thing they typically do --- handing these new devices to the youtube influencers to "endorse" in exchange for free equipment.

[@todd.parker]

As I mentioned, the original Delta Pro batteries are backwards compatible with the new Pro 3 which seems like the main thing existing users would want because they can keep their investment in batteries and just upgrade the main unit for 240v power and much quieter operation. I covered the 150v limit a few times and agree it would have been better if it was 200-250v to give you more flexibility in wiring and panel choices. I'm 100% up front that I was given a free product in exchange for this video but EcoFlow didn't see this before it was posted and I cover the good and the bad in every review I do, no holds barred. You're right that you need to be aware that 90% of reviews on YT are based on free units and/or paid sponsorships so you need to be discerning of who you listen to because many "reviews" are advertisements. Cheers!

[@tlteal]

@@todd.parker the "extra" delta pro batteries I'm told are backwards compatible but the actual Delta Pro itself, as well as the Smart Home Panel (SHP v1) is NOT compatible --- they will become a huge boat anchor. Unless of course, Ecoflow decides to push a firmware update to make them backwards compatible --- time will tell but i don't see that happening.

[@todd.parker]

@@tlteal Gotcha, yeah my understanding is the SHP isn't compatible with the Pro 3.I'm honestly not super into the SHP idea because it's a proprietary piece of tech with a limited lifespan compared to something like an interlock or transfer panel. Neither is as slick but will work for a long time and works with anything. I feel for folks who invested in the original SHP and now can't upgrade.

[@tlteal]

@@todd.parker yep, I bought into the SHP V1 and it seems that ecoflow basically abandoned it right away. I did not make very good decisions then but I'm a lot smarter now and am moving away from "proprietary" type stuff like that and like you said, more interlock/xfer switch like any generator can use. BTW, have you ever tried to engage ecoflow support for issues like the DP smoking? If you haven't, try it as a "normal" user.... I'm outlining these things because sometimes people look like they are endorsing/supporting a company without truly understanding the workings of it, what their support tail is like, etc. Just a suggestion --- YMMV.

[@tlteal]

@@todd.parker yes and their decision to still limit the input to 150V is ridiculous. That has been a limitation and still is. You should be able to put in a lot more power to these devices especially if you have 1 DP3 and extra batteries or it will take many many hours to recharge. These new All in one inverters are taking in 500-600V no reason why ecoflow can't do it since they're so innovative, right?

[@RayLacks]

always this dude has the best reviews! i started with him back with the ryobi propane gen and yetti set up classic but so out dated now. plus never buy a roybi again

[@richardmckinley3236]

Too bad it can't charge at 240v while simultaneously supplying the house at 240v. Curious if the Ultra allows simultaneous charging/supply?

[@richardmckinley3236]

Answered my own question by watching your Ultra review. Looks like the Ultra can charge and feed at the same time so would be best for me. Thanks for your great info!

[@todd.parker]

Yep! Glad it was helpful

[@beckerwholesale2913]

the ultra lets you charge the unit using 120v input while using the 240v output at the same time? the ultra lets you use the 120v outlets and the 240v outlet at the same time?

[@todd.parker]

Yes and yes

[@gordonbecker5055]

⁠thanks.

[@ruslanlevchun1902]

Question: I want to buy this device in Ukraine. In Ukraine, the electrical system is 220 volts. Will this device operate from 220 volts. It should charge from 220 volts, and give 220 volts?

[@todd.parker]

@@ruslanlevchun1902 they sell a European model optimized for 220v and plugs

[@stevek6427]

I really like the Ultra for whole home backup, but I would have to store it in the garage. In south Florida, it gets pretty hot and humid in the garage so I don't think that's a viable option. From what I read about battery powered generators, they should not be stored in areas that get over 85 degrees and have high humidity. so it looks like I'll have to go with the Delta Pro 3 but am looking at the ANKER as well. Could you recommend one or the other?

[@todd.parker]

I think the DP3 and Ultra have roughly the same heat/humidity resistance but I'm guessing the Ultra would d need to go in the garage because it's larger? I'm assuming you're referring to the Anker F3800 and it's a good unit but the 60v solar input and charging limitations kneecaps it for me so I'd go with the Ecoflow units.

[@stevek6427]

@@todd.parker Thank you for your opinion. Yes, the Ultra would be a little large to store in my home office. I agree that ANKER is limited on the solar side, but I plan to recharge with gas generator for now. I like both products and may go with DP3 for future solar panel install. Thanks again for your help.

[@Bmeri3]

This is the first review that mentioned the previous Delta pro products and interoperability. I have the original smart home panel. Any info if you can that with the new delta pro 3? I have a 3 AC unit with a soft start and unless it’s not connected to the smart panel, it doesn’t seem to be able to run that. (I’m not confident my electrician connected it the smart panel)

[@todd.parker]

It's cool they support the older batteries for folks that invested in that system. I'm not sure about the original smart panel but if your unit is 3 ton with soft start the bigger inverter in the Pro 3 should run it because mine would work with one without the soft start. I would notice it would overload periodically because I'd also have a fridge, air handlers, etc. on it and if those were surging, it would push it over the limit.

[@Bmeri3]

Thank you so much for the feedback. Any thoughts about a way get value/sell/trade in my 1 year old Delta Pros should I decide to do that?

[@todd.parker]

@@Bmeri3 I usually look for the lowest sale prince I can find and knock 20-30% off that to get into the ballpark. The Pros are on big sales everywhere now

[@asoma64]

What do you have as backup gas generator?

[@todd.parker]

I have EF's smart generator 2 but the new 4,000w one looks impressive. I only use propane because it's easier to store long term

[@tedb5695]

If the DP3 is plugged into shore power does it pass thru AC with out having to use the inverter?

[@todd.parker]

Yes, you can plug into 120v shore power and it will passthrough the AC. If power goes down, the UPS with switch to battery power in just 10ms

[@Frank-xp3xd]

I don't understand the hype about 240V capability? In other countries like in Europe or some Asian countries all ecoflow models are sold with 4 outlets 220V.

[@todd.parker]

The big deal is 240v power in the US is dual phase (2x 120v breakers tied together) meaning it can power the biggest appliances like well pumps, whole home ACs, induction stoves, etc. I don’t know what the equivalent is in other countries

[@jaycoslow1903]

Europe and Asia use 220v single-phase, that is entirely different than 240v dual-phase. There are many websites that explain the difference between single & dual phase.

[@KJPage]

Nice review 👍 Can't wait to see the Australian 🇦🇺🦘 version. 🙂

[@todd.parker]

Thanks! It's a great unit, cheers

[@johncarr123]

Can the pro 3 use two delta pros extra batteries?

[@todd.parker]

Yes, you can connect 2 batteries from the original pro or the new version

[@johncarr123]

@@todd.parker That is good news. At least we can use the pro extra batteries and version one of the smart generator. I noticed that they have flex cables now to connect extra batteries. Do you know if those cables will work on pro version 1 batteries?

[@michaelgonzalez9500]

Would you uorgade from the delta pro?

[@todd.parker]

If you need 240v output, definitely. If the fan noise bothers you, also yes.

[@dieseldawg7132]

It’s 240v at like 16amp ….. may not power a well pump just incase your thinking about getting it for that

[@ronkmiecik7442]

@@dieseldawg7132, interesting that was exactly my planned use. My current 20 year old well pump is 230volt 13.2 amps.

[@ronkmiecik7442]

@@dieseldawg7132 thanks, my heat pump with a soft start is 17 amps. So it’ll probably run the well pump but not my heat pump even with a soft start installed.

[@dieseldawg7132]

@@ronkmiecik7442 I’m waiting to see if the ultra will go on sale like for prime day…. I’m leaning more toward that model.

[@daniellecFL]

Question...which product powers a refrigerator longest...anker solix f3800 or ecoflow delta pro 3?

[@todd.parker]

They would be about the same though the Anker has a very slightly larger battery. I like the DP3 more though.

[@larryatkins4512]

will the EF'S new 4000 Smart generator work on the ultra unit as well

[@todd.parker]

I believe it will since both have the same high power ports

[@robmccune7949]

Wait, there’s a delta pro max?

[@TheStopwatchGod]

There's a Delta Pro Ultra

[@robmccune7949]

@@TheStopwatchGod did I hear him wrong in the video? When talking about solar input he said it resembles the delta pro max… 13:22

[@netsai61]

I think he meant delta 2 max

[@todd.parker]

Yeah sorry if I misspoke. I meant to the say the low PV 60v input on the Pro 3 is similar to the Delta 2 Max's solar input

[@NoZenith]

I bought the Delta 2 max because you and everyone else pointed out how versatile it was for the compactness. Thanks for the clarification. .​@todd.parker

[@quickquote1568]

It's not the best. It still uses low cost, low surge, high frequency, transformerless inverter tech that offers no galvanic isolation between its DC boost stage and it's AC output, which can not only damage your AC appliances, but can even set them on fire during a catastrophic failure of its H-Bridge circuit. No thanks.

[@todd.parker]

Why do you feel the need to make this same comment on every video on YT?