Tod and Matt - Rapier and Dagger Chat

[@dimitrizaitsew1988]

Dear Todd, you're a real artist who paints with steel. Very impressive.

[@mordechairogelio8864]

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[@phillipmanuel3346]

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[@jamarihudson4105]

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[@mordechairogelio8864]

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[@phillipmanuel3346]

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[@Atrahasis7]

Read about the Portuguese skirmishes with Japan during the 15th century, no wonder they were having trouble against these beasts of rapiers ( probably very similar ) with much shorter Katanas. Very interesting material.

[@andreweden9405]

Benja Freeman, I can't say I know about any 15th century conflicts between Portuguese and Japanese, but some of the ones that took place in the 16th century are very interesting reading indeed. One particular naval battle is discussed on this rather old thread at myarmoury. If I remember correctly, things get a little contentious among some of the posters! 😃 myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=4831 You'd also probably be interested in a legendary set of skirmishes that occurred between Spanish and Japanese in the Philippines in 1582 known as the Battles of Cagayan. And not just any Japanese, but Ronin Samurai(as well as Chinese pirates)! It's been a while since I've checked, so there might be more than just the Wiki entry... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1582_Cagayan_battles Finally, although probably more likely the period of the side-sword than the rapier, the Battle of Diu(1509) was an epic contest between the Portuguese and various Muslim militaries on the Arabian coast of India, and is very interesting to read about... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Diu_(1509)

[@StraivtorS]

First, Samurai and Japan's foot soldiers used spears. And even if they went against Portuguese with using swords, that would be the Nodachi which has very long blade (90cm), still a little shorter than Rapier's (100cm) but not as much as the Katana. Second, the Rapier is a dueling sword not a battle field one. So I doubt the Portuguese would be using that in battle against the Japanese.

[@benjaminschmidt3022]

@@andreweden9405 Could people please stop spreading the myth about the Cagayan battles. If somone wants a good study of the sources for this claim look at: gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2018/11/cagayan-battles-of-1582-debunking-hoax.html

[@Hashishtani]

Portuguese were not interested in fighting Japanese with their katana and so on, because they were trading there. Would any major fight between Portuguese and Japanese samurai which was ruling class in this country happen, Shogun would a) simply behead any Portuguese involved in the conflict b) fine all their trade post, c) he can even prohibit trade depending on the scale of the conflict. Would such conflict really happen, I would bet it wouldn't be rapiers that played any role in this. Portuguese ships, cannons, musketry and pistols would be play quite more significant role than European swordsmanship. Plus I don't think katana is any shorter than rapier. If you would just say that rapier is more effective weapon at least in duel, I would absolutely agree with you. As for battle field weapon I think a bit shorter and wider sword would be more optimal for infantry formation, something like Karl XII period Swedish infantry sword.

[@kentallard8852]

any sources for that?

[@mikefule]

Pommel. I had an intuition and looked it up to check. It's from "pommel" meaning "apple" or, more generally, "fruit", linked to the modern French word "pomme" meaning apple. Similar rounded finials on architecture are also called pommels. All this points to the size and shape being decorative rather than practical. All swords spent a lot of time being worn, and very little time, if any, fighting. A decorative feature can therefore be a useful indicator or status or wealth without having any "real world" disadvantages. By contrast, a disc pommel might protect the hand from cuts from certain directions, or make the grip more secure, and certain shapes of pommel might be better for delivering a blow to the enemy (hence, "pummeling" someone." This one appears to do neither; it just looks nice.

[@anthonyhayes1267]

Thank you for sharing. "I've never seen its equal"

[@AnoNYmous-bz2ef]

0:57 Gave me a heart attack even though I know he's not really flagging Tod with the rapier blade.

[@HebaruSan]

Can you draw them simultaneously, with flair?

[@andreweden9405]

Beautifully made set, Tod! It's uncannily synchronous because I'd just been thinking about how nice it would be for you to make a rapier! Yes, giving it a smaller yet solid pommel might not affect the physical balance, but I think it would then lack "visual balance".

[@barniyamum]

wish i could afford a set like tha awesome job.

[@Sweaty_Ken]

Those are works of art

[@victorwaddell6530]

Now I must listen to Whiskey in the Jar by Thin Lizzy.

[@b19931228]

Is there any particular reason as to why Spanish prefer cup hilt on their rapier?

[@MrTrilbe]

could just be the fashion in Spain at the time

[@melkoroth]

Protection. Not only for the hand but the defensive cone it creates behind it can also cover other parts of your body. You could say that the Verdadera Destreza first and foremost tries to get you out of a fight uninjured and that kind of hilt plays a role in this.

[@Camcolito]

Beautiful sword.

[@F1ghteR41]

6:33 In this regard I've always wondered why are rapier pommels so bulky. Surely you can achieve similar aesthetic qualitites & balance with a wheel or even a simple disc pommel. Are those two harder to make, despite being earlier designs? Or is there something else I'm missing?

[@ZagorTeNayebo]

getting serious deja vu watching this

[@Snikwald]

Is there a chance, that they abandoned back strap because of clothing fashion? Those buffy pantaloons maybe?

[@exploatores]

looks like having a Rapier and dagger was a mark of status. a bit of I don´t need to do manual labour.

[@exploatores]

Male fashion got kind of boaring after the french revolution.

[@Dream_Weapon]

@0:57 I seriously flinched.

[@drewdaly]

How precise does the balance have to be on a sword? If a sword is sharpened enough does some material have to be taken off the pommel?

[@mikefule]

There is a point of balance somewhere along the blade. In some swords, it is fairly close to the hilt, which makes the tip more nimble for thrusting; in some swords it is further from the hilt, which makes the sword less nimble but gives more weight to cuts. It's not so much a case of being "precise" as being optimised for a particular style of use. Sharpening would remove tiny amounts of weight, almost negligible, and have no effect on the balance. The pommel itself is not there for balance - that's a common misconception. It may be for decoration, or to make the hand grip more securely, or (in some designs) help to protect the hand from cuts, or be a good shape for punching with, but it is not for balance. Balance is achieved by careful shaping of the blade so it gets narrower and thinner ("distal taper") towards the tip.

[@penttikoivuniemi2146]

That's an insanely nice set. I'm curious, just how long is the blade of the rapier?

[@davidbriggs264]

Over on Matt's portion of this conversation, he guesstimates that it is around 39 inches in length, which to me looks to be about right.

[@penttikoivuniemi2146]

That's really long, I thought it must be large from the video but damn that's huge.

[@penttikoivuniemi2146]

Ok, I take it back, 110 cm is completely reasonable when compared to 134 cm. I kinda want to see it now...

[@penttikoivuniemi2146]

Nice, thanks. It's a pretty sword, no question about it, but it's tough to make out the length from a picture with just a white background. Maybe I need to take a vacation in France at some point and go take a look myself :D

[@bashkillszombies]

"Nobody wants a floppy scabbard." - I see a future in sponsorship from bluechew on the horizon.

[@kuesdav]

Lovely things, those. What are the blade lengths on both the rapier and the main gauche? Apologies if that was stated in the video and I managed to miss it.

[@davidvanpatten6099]

There is a thread on myArmoury forums whith all you'll need: myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=36359&highlight=

[@andypanda4927]

I was allowed to hold a 1760 era small sword and recall it seemed weighty -more so than a similar length 1850-60 era saber. May have been close to 2 kilos. Long time for me as in my teens at the time & am in my 60 ' s now.

[@laksivrak2203]

I am the walrus, he is the egg man

[@Camcolito]

Careful with that, you'll have someone's eye out.

[@oxfordweddingpiper]

With a little skill

[@markbecker71]

It's for riding a horse

[@sealthesymbol419]

Todd crafting medieval weapons and yet showing off his guns...

[@justsomeguy3931]

8:09 Once again, they say its just a video game or anime trope - and here we see it done by experts in their fields. I'd run my kabar that way for the CoD icepick grip offhand attack style, if only I could mount it that way... 10 dislikes are people who lost duels because their opponents watched Schola's channel for skillz and got their gear from Tod!

[@forgetfulfunctor2986]

This chat was pretty Rapiey

[@Catonius]

Mat is rapier than Tod.

[@sb-ant6457]

Am I first? Murrrhahaha

[@sb-ant6457]

Note to Tod, my mother says butt arse and rump are pronounced derrière around these parts....

[@exploatores]

it´s only something if you do a trippel.

[@sb-ant6457]

Oh come on! I went out and got a cake to celebrate.