Toji vs Jogo isn't a fair fight...

Me & @BrokenRonin breakdown how exactly a fight between Toji & Jogo should hypothetically go and the relevant powerscaling between the two of them as what's brought up when most people discuss the match up and how they compare to each other.
Go check out @BrokenRonin
Intro: 0:00
was Jogo hiding around the corner?: 0:37
Jogo's physicals compared to Toji: 1:09
Jogo's Perception: 3:20
"Jogo is 8 or 9 Finger Level": 4:31
Toji's stats & Resistances: 7:20
Maximum Meteor won't work: 10:38
Toji's a Tank: 12:23
JoGOAT vs Toji: 16:12
The Strongest Disaster Curse is...?: • The Strongest Disaster...
Sukuna vs The Tailed Beasts Is A Massacre...: • Sukuna vs The Tailed B...

[@Dbonesburneraccount]

Jogoat uses unlimited Volcano to stomp🫡

[@idonthaveacreativename6504]

JOGOAT 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@TeamWhatvr]

AAAAAH COOOOOK

[@Jc_lightningmaster]

He alone is the fire one

[@kingkobra4910]

You are strong Toji stand proud

[@dominicwoodford5711]

Jo👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊go

[@mrpodslol]

Based on feats, I'd give it to Yuta

[@sixfromtokyo]

you're a special kinda guy

[@lordkaito7685]

Just look at his pfp man@@sixfromtokyo

[@zillva]

Given Yuta's presence these past chapters, that alone proves he ain't allat sadly

[@marcioamaral7511]

​@@zillva Your logic blew my mind LOL

[@kaust0]

​@@marcioamaral7511😂 seriously

[@Tales269]

"Stand proud, you're strong, toji" -Jogoat

[@lukeswearengin3275]

Sukuna is a fan of consolation prizes

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

And Toji did. He died standing.

[@joshgamingvlogs5203]

Toji wins

[@Zetsuu001]

@@joshgamingvlogs5203 nahhh jogoat slams

[@joshgamingvlogs5203]

@@Zetsuu001 togoat wins low diff

[@Ancient_Tribesman]

You should've used Jogo's "Nah I'd win" for the thumbnail. Toji wins low - mid diff, he'd overwhelm Jogo with his ferocity alone. If Toji uses his glock its low diff

[@bnardd]

I never seen toji lose w that glock

[@mayor3367]

I thought it was stated that not even a carpet bomb can take out a special grade.

[@ac.4420]

Toji is a menace with the Glock fr 😂

[@justawildgengar]

@@mayor3367but that’s a carpet bomb. Not Toji with a Glock😳

[@donekoburnside1546]

Toji is not beating jogo

[@Grayson-Winchester]

Poor Jogo. If it wasn't against Sukuna than he'd certainly would have been ragdolled by good old Toji

[@sixfromtokyo]

there is a reason bro was hiding behind that corner

[@IndrasHandle]

i feel like gege did that shit on purpose because they knew that fight would be mad complicated@@sixfromtokyo

[@fardin_king6817]

​@@sixfromtokyo Toji's downplay mainly comes from Megumi's statement of Toji being 3F Sukuna level but not only was Toji not fighting Megumi as brutally as he fought Dagon he was instinctively suppressing himself because his instincts were making him remember that he was fighting his own son. As for Toji's battle against Pre Awakened Gojo, even if Toji hadn't tired Gojo out Gojo would have lost because Blue was just not fast enough, even Awakened Gojo didn't rely on Blue and Red. Toji's durability is also crazy, Maki's incomplete Heavenly Restriction gave her more durability and better resistance to Jogo's flames than Nanami and Naobito so Toji's is just way better. Lightning446 translation helps Toji a lot and puts him where he should be.

[@fardin_king6817]

​@@sixfromtokyo If Jogo had died to Toji I doubt Sukuna would have emerged even if Nanako and Mimiko had fed him a finger or 2, a great extent of the arc If not whole story could have changed because of this

[@nicormoreno]

@@fardin_king6817 with domain expansions there is no way Toji manages to win, he would need to end the fight before that and lets be real, that is not going to happen, Jogo is not that weak.

[@Vityle]

"Stand proud, Toji. You're strong." - Jogoat, The Incinerated one

[@giglomesh123]

Lmao

[@jorginhocraycray7450]

LOL

[@kimchikin94minmin]

Nahhh you did jogo dirty

[@giglomesh123]

True but that line: The Incinerated one. Is still very funny@@kimchikin94minmin

[@astralasher8700]

You forgot the feat when Jogoat saved the soul society

[@mykesean1260]

The curse society

[@sirrooster1541]

Best moment of the manga was when Sukuna said, "Protect the Soul Society, Jogoat" and JoGoat no diff'd Yhgojoch. Truly a heart warming moment.

[@rad2400]

@@sirrooster1541 real asf i vividly remember that part of manga like it was yesterday 😭😭😭

[@NeonBonesGuy]

Broo, when he gave yamamoto his bankai and told him to stand proud, so legendary.

[@M.21180]

"Welcome to my soul society" Jogoat

[@SneakyBushcamper]

As the strongest curse, Jogoat fought the fraud the child support evader, he summoned maximum meteor, Toji shrunk back in fear then Jogoat said:”Stand proud Toji you are strong”

[@merlintm7533]

Y’all should stop🤣🤣

[@somerandompipeguy]

​@@merlintm7533they are slowly becoming schizophrenic everyday.

[@myusername3689]

@@somerandompipeguyTO THE PSYCH WARD

[@zyxomystory]

​@@somerandompipeguyjjk fandom go crazy after Gojo become Go/jo

[@anime-sama8607]

Literally an annoying meme it has become at this point not that it was better before 💀💀

[@alexandersveryown4760]

Jogo being known as "a glass cannon" is kinda ridiculous since he's able to self regenerate and he's taken beating from both gojo & Sukuna. He was getting tossed around by both. Punches, kicks, etc and he kept getting up and attacking. And we know Gojos hits are HARD. Yuta & Hakari themselves stated that they had to puke after receiving one punch from Gojo

[@assarlannerborn9342]

Yea what was that statement about 😅

[@e_munni3_385]

@@assarlannerborn9342 regeneration is not the same as durability. It’s not like he has the best regeneration in the verse. It’s just a hit higher than others and won’t matter if Toji is going for the kill. To be honest, the reason why he even lasted that long was because sukuna wasn’t trying to kill him until the end and was just trying to see if he could touch him like he said he would. Same with Gojo who was using jogo as a lesson for yuji. Since that’s the case you can argue they were pulling their punches in order for the fight to go on longer.

[@meshadow4908]

In the manga he got hit by sukuna a good 4 or 5 times before using maximum meteor and then loosing

[@Himathyyy]

@@e_munni3_385 Toji hype is crazy, he's strong but Jogo would light his shit up

[@Rachid-zs7oy]

​@@Himathyyyno he wouldnt bro id be a good figth but toji is winning 😂

[@Space_Gojira]

When you think about it... Every fight Jogo has been in is either a complete stomp from Jogo or complete humiliation on Jogo, there is no in-between.

[@gameuniverse5973]

Jogo is just that weird place where he like a final boss for most sorcerers but the top tiers are above him

[@x2kyle]

he fought 2 top tiers that toji would get one shotted by. they are the strongest in the verse by far

[@chris_k1d844]

​@@x2kyleyea, thats what he meant by complete humiliation by some

[@frogsman383]

@@gameuniverse5973 Jogo is the final boss, Toji, Sukana, Gojo, and Kenjaku are the dlc bosses

[@ijones36]

​@@x2kyleto be fair, jogo was *also* one shot by both of them. Sukunas fuga one shot him, and gojos domain one shot him too.

[@DevilM0nk]

I think they made jogo seem more impressive in the anime due to him catching Noabito in the middle of his projection sorcery, to the point where it seems Naobito breaking his own techniques rule in trying to avoid it

[@asepirmawan3256]

Its naobito CT weakness, he cant change the projection mid-air so the moment jogo block his way with aoe attack, he realise he already fuck up and stop trying.

[@DevilM0nk]

@asepirmawan3256 yeah, it was just my interpretation that they were trying to make Jogo look more impressive in the anime regarding what they started speaking on around the 5min mark on what they had in the manga vs anime

[@dominicwoodford5711]

That feat wasn’t that cool. If I saw a guy jumping around in straight lines with 1 arm it’s obvious he has to punch me I’d shoot fire in between us too. Even chisaki from my hero told deku the downfall of moving like that it’s easy to predict

[@DevilM0nk]

@@dominicwoodford5711 I'm sorry you feel differently

[@marcioamaral7511]

​@@DevilM0nk It kinda is the same in the manga

[@sbthesage2100]

Jogo going 1 2 3 is one of the rawest scenes in all of anime

[@patrickmorin752]

Nah, Toji felt Jogo's presence and knew he wasn't built for that so he took his son and ran and proceeded to fight his son to make it seem he ain't ducking 🫠

[@sixfromtokyo]

Hadda make sure his son was safe so he could safely whoop on him somewhere else.

[@pokemonfan2630]

Nah, toji wins.

[@dominicwoodford5711]

Nahh he felt MAHORAGA

[@LXXXIV60]

What are u dumb His instinct is moving towards the strongest, even if Sukuna is there, he will turn towards him because he is fighting with his instinct, not with his mind go read the manga cuz u just talking

[@dvbstofhrvst6216]

JoGOAT the KING of curses 😎😎😎😎 JoGOAT solos the entire verse, Sukuna is lucky that JoGOAT was holding back, using only a 1% of his true power 😎

[@thetrueyuu8474]

Sukuna: Letting Jogo breathe because he already knows he’s strong enough. Toji: Mercilessly beating him and giving him no room to breathe because he likes to torment curses through brute strength rather than domination.

[@__malachi__]

Jogo knew toji had the blic on him he didn’t want smoke. W vid w collab

[@chargercharginton]

nah,he'd win🌋🌋🌋🔥🔥🔥

[@kage7567]

After these episodes and Jogo's death it really put him in the top 5 characters for me, like fr I don't even know why but he's just the Goat

[@gameuniverse5973]

Because jogo is the goat he just had a bad luck on being in the same era where both sukuna and gojo are both in if he was in another era he would probably be considered a mini king of curses

[@kalilasqary4090]

In Shibuya arc like in anime, debatable, but arguably yes. Manga wise, barely in top 10 or might be top 15

[@yaboiplank6764]

13:10 Toji will still be affected by the elemental effect like he was affected by Dagons water So he will feel Jogos heat/Lava Not saying he would die but he’s not getting 0 damage from the domain Jogo would also be able to use non-surehit attacks and be buffed physically while in the domain

[@oreki8707]

Still doesn't matter....jogo is fodder compared to toji...

[@dragonmaster3207]

@@oreki8707respectful no

[@oreki8707]

@@dragonmaster3207 wdym no....after soo many feats in the manga...of maki who is now toji adjacent who literally threw...15 sukuna around and forced him to retreat and humiliating curse naoya....who is much faster than jogo and almost as durable as hanami....there is no way u can make any argument that jogo is anywhere relative to toji.....

[@ye7625]

​@@oreki8707Maki didnt get any stat buff to her 2nd awakening she simply started utilizing her senses to its full capability basically amounting to a form of precog speed wise shes still way below noaya with speed.

[@oreki8707]

@@ye7625 doesn't matter....bro...after the precog bugg....which makes her equal to toji... atleast stats wise....make her able to literally run on air and dogwalk curse naoya....who should be at the very least....2 degrees of magnitude above jogo in terms of speed, durability

[@doodoo5594]

i feel like it’s pretty clear just by how greg writes the characters that he interprets toji as stronger, like we literally have maki giving toji higher and higher scaling, in real time, even though he’s been dead for almost a decade 🤣

[@issukunaafraudorthegoat]

Ahh yes Greg is such an amazing artist

[@gameuniverse5973]

Sukuna to awakened maki who has Yuji helping her: your boring Sukuna to a solo jogo:stand proud your strong Somehow Maki/toji higher than jogo HUH

[@issukunaafraudorthegoat]

@@gameuniverse5973 gege bs writing in a nutshell.

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@issukunaafraudorthegoat it just means Jogo above awakened maki and toji

[@issukunaafraudorthegoat]

@@gameuniverse5973 so is gojo calling jogo weak not valid?

[@theredriver2070]

Nah my goat Jogoat would win

[@sixfromtokyo]

but what about JOGO. Jogoat is different we have a section dedicated to him.

[@snoozless987]

​@@sixfromtokyotrue believers know jogo and jogoat are secretly the same guy 😤😤

[@darkpup2523]

“Stand proud toji you are strong”

[@Ieatrocks58008]

Then jogoat wakes up from his dream and is beheaded by Toji 💀

[@mariano8085]

@@Ieatrocks58008na, jogo onetaps that child support victim, mid high diff at best

[@Ieatrocks58008]

@@mariano8085 no he doesn’t Toji is faster and stronger. Jogo only takes Destructive capabilities abillities and experience. Toji has way too many weapons that hard counters and can’t be sensed because of him having no CE AT ALL

[@sebastiaogaiolas9739]

JOGOAT has one 6E Toji lost against a dude with 2 6Es so Jogoat High diffs

[@Ieatrocks58008]

@@sebastiaogaiolas9739 what’s 6Es??

[@SmashKing]

11:15 they didn’t just dodge it, they dodged it last second due to Sakuna telling them to wait until he said go 😂

[@O.J.E]

“Stand proud, nah I’d win” - jogoat

[@xavierwalker6470]

"Nah I'd win" Jogoat, The Strongest

[@firepillow2092]

jogo stomps, his mere presence was melting buildings. toji turns into a puddle before landing a single blow

[@michaelesquivel5956]

Bro is delusional

[@firepillow2092]

@@michaelesquivel5956 how is he gonna avoid getting melted?

[@zk-vd6uy]

​@@firepillow2092curse resistance maki with heavenly restrictions was able to survive and sustain less damage than grade 1 sorcerer who got killed on spot

[@idkevko971]

@@firepillow2092yuji survived Jogos domain, no doubt Toji survive that 100x better.

[@firepillow2092]

@@idkevko971 yuji was being protected by gojo

[@deletethis5699]

Nah, Jogo just has to use his magnum opus: Hollow Volcano. Another win for the king.

[@sixfromtokyo]

Hollow Volcano is CRAZY

[@biscuit2664]

​@@sixfromtokyono like to me toji just doesn't stand a chance

[@Speedx67]

Jogo would 100% demolish Toji based on feats. Like not even a joke

[@david91lvb]

Fr idk why most of the comments are saying Toji wins

[@asdergold1]

Coping people that just happen to really like Maki, probably. Bias is bias.

[@ranbirb5725]

@@asdergold1even then it makes no sense considering awakened maki got ridiculed after jumping meguna w yujis help when it was stated he’s around 10% of his power aka 2 finger meguna while a 15 finger sukuna praised jogo saying he’s much stronger than anyone he’s fought in centuries 😭

[@mxcn152]

@@ranbirb5725 the 10% statement is most reasonably interpreted as his slashing attacks since he says that the body (megumi) is holding him back when he's trying to hurt his friends, and he responds to that information by using dismantle on the ground (not on megumi's friends so therefore not nerfed), context matters, also if it was truly 10% of all physical stats then you would have maki relative to a 1.5 finger sukuna while toji is at the very very least 3 fingers based on megumi's statement, and maki is equal to toji, which don't make sense

[@zk-vd6uy]

​@@ranbirb5725his physical stat is fine just his output is nerfed his "input" isnt

[@sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622]

JOGOAT's feats: He's Him He has the 3 eyes He is fast Tiktok A steaming hot honeybun. Toji's feats: Beats up teenagers (including his own son) Is a deadbeat Walks in other peoples domain without their permission Is homeless man. Yea Jogoat got this.

[@pspsmallz]

Toji came back with the milk though, that feat alone puts him above all other dead beat dads and gives him the clear advantage

[@RyukenXX]

My man toji had the guts to take himself out cuz no one else could since number one and two strongest were unavailable, while jogo had to rely on number one to do that

[@sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622]

@@pspsmallz true, however he had to go 1950's drunk dad on his teenage son lmao

[@sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622]

@@RyukenXX nah he had unsettled debt

[@1caprosa]

Stand proud Sukuna, you’re strong.

[@ricowilkins9188]

I'm real happy that you are covering more JJK content lately.

[@jeffjeff2955]

12:50 I assume Maki survived because Jogo underestimated how much it'd take to 1shot her, just like Dagon.

[@yohobin]

Toji when Jogo literally just surrounds himself in lava and flame and keeps regenerating body parts every time he's attacked:

[@seksaouiabderraouf2531]

can't regenerate forever, and toji can simply you know, NOT WALK into lava.

[@grimrocket5592]

@@seksaouiabderraouf2531then he would have know way to attack jogo, toji has no range son

[@seksaouiabderraouf2531]

@@grimrocket5592 he could throw fucking trucks, how does he not have range? he can also just throw playful cloud like a spear.

[@grimrocket5592]

@@seksaouiabderraouf2531 trucks get melted and throwing playful cloud wouldnt be that effective even if he lands

[@waitwut4119]

@@seksaouiabderraouf2531 why does that even matter? Not having range dosent mean shit, sukuna pure physical stats was boxing down jogo without his technique and low diff as well, Toji and maki are near relative to a 15 finger sukuna in physical stats

[@Cursed_Collector27]

Through out heaven and earth I alone am the honored one -jogoat

[@Dragonpreet]

Jogoat solos the verse, only one that doesn’t get no diffed is the fingerer.

[@mmm-pc3xe]

Who the fuck is the fingerer

[@SeanDeli]

​@@mmm-pc3xesukuna

[@negacatn254]

what that fingerer do 😳

[@anontheweeb87]

I don't know where the notion of Jogo being a Glass Cannon came from, if I had to guess it's probably that statement that Jogo would die from the same Black Flashes Hanami took head on. But just because he's less durable than Hanami doesn't mean he's a Glass Cannon. He took punches from Gojo, Red from Gojo and survived Sukuna for a bit. That doesn't seem to me like a Glass Cannon character he's just a Cannon(And maybe Glass Cannon when compared to a Tank like Hanami).

[@sirsirrisris]

jogo is less durable then dagan who toji stomped with no effort most jjk fans have a problem with accepting jogo is super strong but hes not handling toji at all

[@jx8903]

Sukuna quite literally bullied him and ripped off his jaw casually. Gojo was obviously holding back in that Red since he wanted to interrogate Jogo, plus the fact that Red did more damage to a Sukuna who ate the equivalent of 20 fking fingers, so it's pretty obvious that if Gojo wanted, he would have just vaporized Jogo there. So yeah, he doesn't scale to them at all, unless he uses Maximum Meteor, but that shit is slow af.

[@anontheweeb87]

@@sirsirrisris I never said he'd win, I'm just saying that calling Jogo a 'Glass Cannon' isn't very appropriate when he took hits from the two strongest characters in the series and survived.

[@anontheweeb87]

@@jx8903 Gojo pulling his punches might be very likely, but do you know another time Gojo likely held his punches? [MANGA SPOILERS, proceed at your own risk] Kusakabe asked if anyone knows how it feels to be hit by Gojo and both Hakari and Yuta looked like they were recalling painful memory and both said that they puked. That's one Special Grade Sorcerer(And Hakari who may or may not be up there) there that said he puked from a punch by Gojo who obviously wasn't going for the kill so he held back. Jogo took a lot of these punches and didn't look like he accumulated a lot of damage.

[@jx8903]

@@anontheweeb87 Man, what?, first of all, same problem, Gojo was clearly holding back and playing around (he even mock Jogo and calles him weak), second, those punches Kusakabe was talking about were amped by Blue, so they weren't just normal standart punches.

[@joshualopez796]

The JJK community does not understand Jogo. Toji was hit by a newly awakened Gojos red, blocked it with inverted spear, and was still blown back and was bleeding from his head. Jogo was hit with an adult Gojo red, NO BLOCK, that cleared a forest, and was running afterwards.

[@sixfromtokyo]

Do you disagree Gojo was holding back on Jogo and toying with him? he didn't even take his blindfold off. He also taunted Jogo to get him to bring out Domain just to teach it to Yuji. Highly doubt Jogo could just tank a FP red I mean actually we know he didn't Gojo didn't even use the incantations on it or anything.

[@joshualopez796]

I mean yea, he was likely holding back, but we saw the damage the red dealt. It CLEARED a huge portion of that forest. The red used on Toji barely blew up a house. @@sixfromtokyo

[@utrarafat]

that was not even remotely close to a full power gojo's red, remember that jogo is way less durable than hanami

[@whatislife6101]

you also dont understand how op toji is simply because the way he and maki both are shown is itself so simple and it's easy to undermine them

[@yewyangfoo]

@@sixfromtokyoJogo has massively higher ap and dc with relative speed bruh, Toji would lose high diff

[@waltersullivan2727]

I still gotta stand with my goat Jogoat. Kenjaku does compare him to 8 or 9 finger Sukuna but that is being generous. But we know he probably still is above 3 fingers Sukuna. When Gojo firsts meets Jogo he comments that he’s stronger than the current Sukuna. This all happened after the detention center. So I think 5-6 is a fair assessment. Dagon comments that Naobito might be faster than Jogo. But Naobito is put 2nd in speed behind adult Gojo (faster than Yuki & Yuta)? This would mean not all projection sorcery is equal since that makes him faster than Naoya. Megumi had seen Toji fight Dagon he fought Toji and still compared him to 3 finger Sukuna. And Toji was automatically targeting the strongest in the area. It’s not like he knew Megumi was his son until the end of the fight anyways. And I think Jogo’s durability gets downplayed. It would take 5 black flashes and a playful cloud strike to kill Jogo. But I think Yuji’s black flashes are stronger than any blows Toji could throw out. We also see Jogo take several blows from Sukuna and Gojo of all people and keep moving. Given that the multiplier of black flash is to the power of 2.5. It strikes me as no surprise that strikes from Yuji even back then are fatal to most. You can create some composite Toji Zenin in a vacuum with soul split katana and inverted spear of heaven. But I’m not really looking to do that just Toji in the moment of the Shibuya incident. Just hands and a broken playful cloud I’m not giving it to Toji or acting like this is a one sided wash. I could bring up some other things besides all this but I feel my point is clear.

[@madhavarora1952]

Toji is almost invincible for him nothing matters and we've not seen toji in his fullest... Like he was just playing with dagon and meg where he could've just one shoted them...if this fight happens Jogo's gonna get his ass beat up by another person who is without curse energy... He'll be in self doubt ;)

[@monteiro1345]

Toji's speed is wayyyy higher than jogo based on the mangaL(don't want to spoil) but trust me, toji blitzes

[@RyukenXX]

I ain't gonna read all that. Happy for you though, or sorry it happened

[@Gspoink]

​@@madhavarora1952JoGOAT is always invincible for him nothing matters and we've not seen joGOAT in the fullest... Like he was just playing with Gojo and Sukuna where he could've one shifted them... Toji's gonna get his ass beat by another person who is with cursed energy... He'll be in self doubt ;)

[@madhavarora1952]

@@Gspoink hey bro reverse card was not allowed 😂

[@tobyclark1081]

i think people forget toji can’t sense cursed energy so he didn’t even know jogo was coming. he just recognized megumi was the strongest in the room and decided to molly wop him one on one outside. toji would put up a crazy fight and could for sure win but i think jogoat pulls through

[@khulmach9662]

Toji can sense curse energy with his enhance senses, he even feels pressure and stuff like a normal sorcerer with those strengthen senses.

[@TactlessGuy]

Toji vs. Jogo in his Shibuya State would've been a 50/50, but a prepared Toji with the Inverted Spear would've low-mid diffed Jogo. He's primarily an assassin before being a frontliner.

[@EmmanuelGbiaye]

Toji can sense Cursed Energy and more(if you've read the manga). Naobito also didn't know Jogo was coming even if you assume a Toji can't sense CE what about the grade 1 sorcerers. Toji didn't meet Jogo simply because of the plot

[@AnonTDegenerate]

​@@TactlessGuydefinitely. Especially with the anime. A guy who is running with no thoughts has to attack a guy who's presence melts buildings.. definitely mid-high diff as a reincarnation. Low-mid eith HI arc.

[@cmon9505]

Pretty sure its close but toji should win

[@wokeuplikedis1500]

All this video proved was how Toji is the most glazed character in JJK.

[@Guy_drip]

Facts, people say he’s equal to 15F Sukuna 💀💀

[@david91lvb]

Yea and the comments too. Bro is NOT beating Jogo at all 😭😭😭

[@sebasthefish8718]

he is lol jogo is ass @@david91lvb

[@aokiji3347]

Old Toji was able to decimate and destroy teen gojo, prime toji solos both gojo and sukana extreme difficulty

[@ChimpRevolution]

​@aokiji3347 he literally had been planing his attack on gojo for a while had gojo up for like 3 days and a broken ass spear that ignores infinity and still couldn't kill him. Not to mention toji was a grown adult gojo was still a teenager. Gojo is so expentionallly stronger than he was in the flash back it's not even funny besides obviously gaining hollow purple a domain expansion and mastering RCT so he can keep up infinity forever. He literally was shown to be improving his base infinity techniques as short as a year later as he was developing multiple ways for it to activate automatically even against poison.

[@user-ll2jh5zd9z]

In all reality y’all glazed Toji mad hard this vid underrated Jogo Durability he survived 4 enhanced blue punches and a point blank red from Gojo still pulled out a domain…Toji still wins but not as easy as y’all say…the meatriding is actually insane

[@PyroniumZ]

Honestly the only thing they underestimated was the use of domain. It still amplifies Jogos techniques and there is the insane heat to deal with as a bonus. Even without the sure hit effect its still helpful

[@user-ll2jh5zd9z]

@@PyroniumZ nah I still feel everyone underestimates Jogos durability…like I said he took 4 serious blue enhanced punches from Gojo(just 1 unserious made Yuta and Hakari vomit) also tanked a red… and honestly who in the series besides the top 3 in the verse and Hanami couldve tanked 5 black flashes from Itadori and a playful cloud strike from Todo? It wasn’t to be a nerf to Jogos durability but a testimony to Hanamis Durability

[@PyroniumZ]

@@user-ll2jh5zd9z I mean that is true but in this case any attack would still damage him seriously because Toji>the Yuji that fought Hanami. Against the high-top tiers he is still a glass cannon. Also i dont know about Gojo being that serious since he was kinda playing with him and goofing around, trying to show Yuji stuff. His durability isnt the worst but against people like Toji its not enough. Some people also forget how broken black flash is, even from that specific Yuji, Jogo not surviving 5 of those and Todos attacks doesnt mean he is frail

[@user-ll2jh5zd9z]

@@PyroniumZ yeah I still give the win to Toji but they make it seem like such a landslide but Jogo has moved they didn’t mention such as being able to use sonic waves to attack with those mosquito bombs I just feel like they came into this video not really trying to debate or discuss but strictly to meatride

[@EmmanuelGbiaye]

Toji tanked red made with the intent to kill. Gojo was holding back against Jogo and was only trying to capture him. Gojo was also trying to keep him alive long enough so he uses DE because he wanted Yuji to see it.

[@tanwin137]

Jogo is about to meet the third honored one 😭😭

[@gameuniverse5973]

Wait yuta was there oh nevermind your talking to a jogo victim

[@sebastiaogaiolas9739]

@@gameuniverse5973 Yuta´s a fraud we cant keep out of our Fing mouths compared to Jogoat!

[@blazen9958]

Jogoat slams🥱

[@fireboltchamploo7620]

JoGOAT was so strong, that someone who was able to nearly kill Gojo had to flee.

[@elgoblinax8796]

And still claped a special grade and his equal when she fully realized she was way faster than a curse that specialiced in speed

[@Owen-sx4jj]

Amazing

[@ericross2529]

A weaker version of gojo💀💀why do people not understand this

[@apolloskywalker633]

@@ericross2529The only thing he unlocked was RCT and Hollow Purple. It’s not like GOJO has a deep bag.

[@parmar__12]

​@@apolloskywalker633awakened gojo has teleportation domain and Balck flash Like pre awkaening he was like what maki is

[@sung7441]

Love your vids bro

[@BrunofanofK]

You people are caping hard. Toji faster than Naobito? Maki couldnt keep up with Naoya. Also, Jogo might be less sturdy than Nanami but he survived Gojo's red and Sukuna trashing.

[@shepardice3775]

He survived Gojo's red because it was in a forest. Imagine if it sent him flying through several concrete buildings like it did Toji. The damage would've been much worse

[@voidtempering8700]

​@@shepardice3775Comparing adult Gojo to kid Gojo doesn't make sense at all. Adult Gojo would one-shor Toji. Toji is comparable to Maki, who struggled against a 15 finger Sukuna who wasn't even at 10%.

[@shepardice3775]

@@voidtempering8700 Maki didn't struggle in the least bit against Sukuna in that fight what are you talking about lmao. She got hit once with Sukuna putting his whole back into it with the output he had, and she ate it. She didn't attempt to use her sword. You're also downplaying Sukuna's strength in that chapter. He tells us himself it's fluctuating and it's strongest when he was trying to hurt them. He should've been able to dodge and block much better than at 10%

[@basimdelcea7000]

​@@shepardice3775bro wen flying and stoped in a building , he didnt go through multiple buildings, read it again and see

[@basimdelcea7000]

​​@@shepardice3775its the oposite, he said that his output is getting lower the more he hurts them because of megumi , its not getting stronger . They were strugling , they were both attacking at the same time and sukuna was just blocking maki with one hand and yuji with the other. And you think that sukuna wouldve still played with them if maki had the sword? He wouldnt be so reckless and let maki cut him with a sword that damages his soul

[@Mrblock519]

“The strongest bush camper of today vs the strongest bush camper in history”

[@anetery1226]

"stand weak , you are proud"

[@unclephillymya]

Jogo really been out here fighting the top dawgs of the verse 😭😭

[@isaiahjoyce4783]

Bro had a bad wrap😭 gege had some animosity towards boul😭😭😭

[@chargercharginton]

And win, HE THE GOAT

[@PoIarisPrime]

And he won

[@ratio8099]

Jogo is too strong he started beefing with 2 of the strongest characters and survived half of the show.

[@PerSon-xg3zr]

Can't Toji just wait outside Jogo's domain since he isn't forced in as he has no cursed energy?

[@Naldinho456]

Then their is no fight and I feel like domain's don't take much stamina cause Dagon be chilling in his domain bruh really was a drink and chilling jogo and others

[@needofname6667]

Probably just relevancy bias, but after seeing Jogo vs Sukuna, Jogo's AP seems very overwhelming and I'm not sure if Toji would really be able to handle that.

[@AnonTDegenerate]

Ehh. He'd definitely be able too. We've seen that the stronger someone is the better they resist his heat. So indirect heat and fumes can't kill him, and his attacks are simply too slow. If they *hit* yeah Toji would be fucked up badly, especially with no rct.

[@justinbarnes33]

Do not underestimate Tojis ability too embarrass someone

[@nunyabusiness8000]

Toji would probably be pretty hurt at one attack. But that’s assuming Jogo can land that attack since his speed is insane and besides the Jogo blitz against 3 injured sorcerers(Nahobito is stated to lose a significant amount of speed being one armed in the manga) I don’t think he’s landing a hit on him without getting playful cloud shoved up his ass. Only chance he has is domain expansion, the sure hit would probably but Toji down but can’t say with 100% certainty

[@dom1nation465]

@@nunyabusiness8000 Toji wouldnt be that hurt firstt of all and 2nd of all since toji has 0 curse energy sure hit effect of domains do not affect him as he can freely move throught them if he so chooses. I am guessing you havent read the manga if you dont know that

[@prestigehunter9729]

@@dom1nation465 Jogo’s domain is an exception because it has passive heat that turns you to ash regardless if the domain can detect you or not.

[@solomondesormeaux]

People need to understand fifteen fingers sakuna full strength before they start comparing jogo to anyone.

[@6PathsGohan]

😭 Bruh you got this shit out so fast I swear you were editing an hour ago. W

[@k-popk-dramaj-anime7777]

Jogoat: I will never forget you, Toji

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

"Stand proud, Toji. You're missing the entire left side of your torso." - Jogoat, The Gojo'd One

[@dream1430]

The feats you use to scale Toji are so incredibly vague and not concrete, can’t take it seriously. You essentially just asserted Toji is stronger than Jogo without evidence and made weird inferences about character stats based on things like one character being afraid of another. For example, you argue that Toji is faster than Naobito simply because one character said that Zenin clans existence was at Toji whim and because Maki whipped out the Zenin clan - that isn’t “ tons of evidence “ for Toji being faster than Naobito - let’s be fr here bro… It doesn’t logically follow that just because Toji is a stronger fighter on the whole, or that Maki was able to defeat the Zenin clan, that Toji is faster than Naobito. Speed is a specific stat - ironically, jogo killing naobito despite being slower is evidence that Toji doesn’t need to be faster than Naobito in order to be way stronger than him, so I’m not even sure why you’d try to infer that Toji is faster from those weak premises I feel like y’all aren’t even listening to yourself speak, and this is just bad example of the logic used in scaling here. You guys are also cherry picking which statements you acknowledge as valid. JJK fans are actually the worst power scalers.

[@dinosaur7256]

Wouldn’t the heat of Jogo domain one shot Toji even sorcerers would get one shot by the passive heat of his domain it doesn’t target anything it’s just heat.

[@sixfromtokyo]

Yuji didn't even burn up from that. it just implies the average sorcerer is weak.

[@shepardice3775]

No. If pre-awakened Maki, injured, could survive the burns from Jogo I don't think the passive heat from his domain would be enough to seriously injure Toji.

[@walaba8565]

@@sixfromtokyo Do you seriously think it wasn't Gojo protecting him?

[@sixfromtokyo]

@@walaba8565 Gojo didn't have his hand on Yuji or anything at that moment and to anyone's knowledge it doesn't seem like Gojo can spread infinity onto other people and protect them. Yuji is known to be very physically tough naturally so know I don't think Gojo was protecting him.

[@walaba8565]

@@sixfromtokyo Being physically tough isn't even close to enough. It's actually absurd if you think season 1 Yuji could've survived Jogo's domain. Gojo doesn't need to spread infinity, it's an AOE around him and Yuji was near him. Gojo is a bad mentor but he's not bad enough to let his student enter a special grade's domain unprotected.

[@kmanibo]

He was not afraid to face Gojo and Sukuna. You think he will be afraid of a Ningen?

[@gentlepeeps3351]

People also forget that jogo also has regen he legit regens his arms heads ect

[@JussGreg]

Jogo got a UAV after he burned everybody up and Toji still would’ve put him on a T-shirt low diff

[@sixfromtokyo]

a UAV

[@nelsonlazcano7732]

Good video❤

[@mikelxanadu]

Here to give you that algorithm boost lol. Watching all the way till the end and liking the video, bruh! Y'all better follow my example!

[@Telarius]

FINALLY you come out with this to shut everyone up hahaha

[@x2kyle]

ppl saw toji fight rabbits and lost their minds lmao

[@bluepheonixsoul1553]

I've never really understood the jogo is "low durability" the dude literally survived being decapitated in the gojo fight, and during the sakuna is constantly being turned into sashimi and just keeps going. He may be low defense but as far as hp goes he does just fine. I still think he loses, his best shot would probably be to make the ground lava and submerge himself in it and just try and make it an attrition fight where he just relies on ambient damage. Even assuming Toji's curse resistance is 30 times maki's jogo was still able to do severe hospitlizing damage too maki with essentially a quarter second pinky flick. His main problem is definitely just getting blitzed through Toji's speed really is comical. Ultimately assuming jogo gets to react too the fight starting I'll give him 35% against an unarmed Toji, 10% with playful cloud, 0% with the anti-technique dagger, -200% with the soul cutting sword(it gets rid of jogo's healing).

[@tarikmccuin6306]

I got Jogo. Toji being able to solo the clan doesn’t make him faster than Naobito. Maki did it, and she was very clearly slower than Naoya. Her being physically equal to Toji at this point doesn’t hurt either. I got Toji higher on my rankings, but it’s just a bad match up for Toji. He’s faster, and he can keep great range. But it’s all the little details that win Jogo the fight. If he opens his domain, the curse dies. No curse means no “invisibility” and oc just one tool, which I assume would be the katana. If he does step in the domain, Jogo is definitely faster with even stronger attacks. He can just use the CE from the tool to make sure the sure hits hit. A sure hit domain amped meteor? Crazy. Sure he could drop the weapon and he’s immune to sure hits and he’s invisible, but now he can’t hurt Jogo. If he doesn’t enter the domain, Jogo just calls it off, survives with domain amp until his CT comes back, and then just wins by keeping his range and setting up volcanoes all over the area, spamming fire blasts, armies of exploding shikigami, lava pool and giant lava constructs. Like I said, Toji is stronger, it’s just a bad match up

[@Iskender46teke]

Awakened Maki could dodge curse Naoya MID AIR which was much faster than human Naoya. She was talking about how now (chapter 197) she understands what could Toji perceive " things only I can see ... things only he could see...". Toji is not only faster, he is much more faster that Jogo wouldn't even be able to see him properly and cannot perceive him. Toji doesnt even need his curse back pack with the ISOH. If Jogo uses his DE Toji can just leave the domain in the blink of an eye (also he can leave and enter as he pleases), Jogo wouldn't even notice him and would be confused why he cannot perceive Toji. The DE is vulnerable to outside attacks, Toji could literally smash it. In Shibuya Edo Toji had the playfoul cloud which the only special cursed tool not imbued with CT, he stays invisible. So using a DE wouldn't be very effective and you need to wait for CT to come back. Domain amplification is only effective to neutralize any opposing cursed technique or domain expansion they come into contact with. Jogo wouldn't survive the raw physical strength+the special grade cursed tool "Playfoul Cloud". Dagon outside his domain didnt budge from Nanami's full power hit and Nanami was compared to Yuji in term of striking power in the mange during Shibuya. And Yuji strikes would damage Hanami. Jogo in the other hand is stated to be way less tanky than Hanami (supplementary info 4). Toji with playfoul cloud will one shot Jogo just like he effortlessly killed Dagon. If Jogo has any info on Toji assassination skills then maybe he could in advance build his defense by making a pool of lava around him and literally swim in it with bugs, otherwise just from the first encounter Jogo gets one shotted and dominated by pure raw speed, strength and brutality. As Toji likes to overkill his opponents (plot armor saved Gojo ofc).

[@tarikmccuin6306]

@@Iskender46teke I’m not reading that bro. I saw the first few sentences. U can see she jumped off Naoya. Her awakening was a mental buff. Doesn’t increase physical stats at all. The Zenin clan even said she was like Toji

[@Iskender46teke]

​@@tarikmccuin6306you don't even understand how the domain amp works and think he can survive with that. Just read what I wrote and you will understand how your point is poorly judged.

[@guesswho8556]

Mahito is the only guy that uses "Soul scaling". That thing is only relevant against Mahito because his attacks target your soul. The more powerful your soul is, the more attacks you can take from mahito. Itadori at 10% soul is not a 10% strength, durability, speed, etc. Furthermore, even if soul was an amp, did you choose to ignore Gojo saying Jogo is stronger than current 3 finger sukuna? There's absolutely no evidence Toji is as fast as Naobito. Maki defeated Naoya and the rest of the Zenin clan despite being drastically slower than Naoya at the time. She just figured out how his CT worked, faked an opening, and attacked at the spot where she new Naoya would be. Dagon also clapped Naobito despite being way slower than him. The idea that being stronger than Naobito in a 1v1 fight automatically means you scale to his movement speed is silly. I don't know where the idea that Jogo is a glass cannon comes from. Do you know about other characters that are not Hanami who could have tanked the same attacks that Hanami got hit with? He's less durable than Hanami so he's automatically weak? Did you not see him tank Red from adult Gojo? The same attack he was planning to use to one shot Mahogara? I'm not arguing about the outcome, but some of the points here are weak.

[@Dell-ol6hb]

Yea I agree these are some weak ass points

[@little_error295]

Gojo when fighting toji was incredibly impressed with his speed and megumi was straight up flabbergasted by it if toji was not faster than him there reactions would make literally zero sense there ct isn’t a secret nor is naobito existence gojo and megumi would both know about him and would not be so surprised by how quick he was if they literally knew people quicker than him I mean for gods sake maki who literally knows and was fighting with naobito was caught off guard by how quick and strong toji was 😂 also just use your brain you think the author would make a character who’s entire power is being quick and strong with the downside of no abilities not insanely fast compared to almost anyone else with the exception of probably sukuna and gojo no need to be disingenuous

[@guesswho8556]

@@little_error295 gojo being impressed by Toji's speed proves what exactly? He said 3rd year mei mei was strong and he proclaimed he and geto (who was grade 1 at the time) were the strongest. Meanwhile adult gojo calls Jogo is weak. Is teen mei mei stronger than Jogo or what? Does grade 1 geto solo special grade Yuki or what? Maki was caught off guard by toji? Did you not see her and nanami say they couldn't see Naobito move? Also, learn to use punctuation and estructure paragraphs.

[@little_error295]

@@guesswho8556 because he already knows about naobito and the zenin technique if Toji was slower there would be nothing to be surprised about and trying to tell someone about punctuation when you can’t spell structure correctly is crazy 😂 you clown

[@Iskender46teke]

He launched the weakest red he could do and Jogo "tanked" it and was blasted away. If he wanted Gojo would one shot Jogo if he just puts more output into his red. Gojo was simply toying with Jogo and didnt want to kill him because he was curious and wanted to interogate him. The red he used against Toji which was blocked by the ISOH and Toji's basically superhuman body was meant to kill him, not to toy with him. Same thing for Maho, he can choose if he wants to use 10 percent or 100. So yeah Jogo isnt durable at all, meaning few strikes from playfoul cloud will one shot him even than Dagon. Awakened Maki who finally could perceive things like Toji (in chapter 197) could dodge curse Naoya mid air and Naoya couldnt catch Maki and was losing nerves. Making Toji faster or as fast as curse Naoya who was much faster than his human self.

[@haymeshamstradam8170]

The winner is always the one the author decides. And the authors and editors love toji. I mean just look at how they had put him as a cliffhanger for 5 or so episodes. I'm sure gege would make a way for Toji to win against Jogo, even though jogo might be objectively stronger.

[@yokuutsu9097]

Nanami kills Toji question mark?

[@tresdank9360]

This is actually a 0 brain take I only see from 15 year old girls and Indians. If Jogo changes then temperature of the room to boil any blood that enters, that’s a 0% win probability for Toji.

[@haymeshamstradam8170]

@@yokuutsu9097 nah. So they didn't have them fight. I mean c'mon even a wekened nanami is stronger than megumi. It's all narrative.

[@Zen-zt4uk]

Man I wish there's actual info on Sukuna finger scaling besides feats shown, having that cleared up would've resolved a lot more problems besides this hypothetical fight

[@spiderzff4880]

Stand proud toji you’re strong Jogoat

[@cashouttbready6529]

Stand proud Toji , your strong - jogoat

[@Killa_Suerte]

I don’t think it’s an easy fight at all for Jogo but if he is allowed to expand his DE, isn’t Toji’s only win-con getting inside his domain? Jogo’s domain is the literal inside of a volcano which burns everything with or without CE. Toji/Maki types can only negate guaranteed hits that target CE once within the domain because they have no CE. (like Gojo’s info dump or Dagon’s Unlimited Swarm) Toji can “choose” to get in the domain but if it’s casts and he wants to kill Jogo, he has to enter and will be affected by general extreme heat, lack of oxygen, poisonous gasses, etc. Not meteors thrown or lava spouts fired.

[@peyton1768]

He says most sorcerers would burn immediately after entering the domain; maki survived against a fire blast from him to the face (before she perfected her body), but after the awakening, uraume showed up during the maki & yuuji vs sukuna fight and they directly blasted her with their maximum output technique Frost Calm (Yuki had to stop uraume the last time they showed up), yet maki survived that perfectly well (of course it took her a while to get out of it, but she was also caught off guard even worse than when she met jogo, so the fact that she was perfectly fine in chapter 220 is saying a lot about her current level of durability) Also, toji was unable to breathe in dagons domain as well when he was standing still and was dragged underwater, but that doesn't change the fact that he immediately tanked hundreds of attacks and then fucking skewered him like he was getting ready to grill calamari (LOL), and he was basically on autopilot during this. The exact same thing would happen if maki was in jogo's domain. Even if maki was sweating from the heat, she'd definitely be fine (I'm not sure about her odds before she lost all of her cursed energy though, but when she's at toji's level yeah she'd probs be okay for at least 5 seconds which is basically 4 seconds more than what she needs to break out of it) her senses are so good that she'd be able to sense any of the dangers ahead of time and then could figure out the best course of action. Maybe the lava would be rough if she literally soaked in it, but she ain't gonna fucking stand still while he uses his technique? 😭 she could literally just run up to him and slice him 100 times before he does a maximum output technique, and we don't even know if jogos maximum output would end the fight (unless it's literally a direct hit there's a good chance she could survive it, and she's considered an inanimate object within domains so if she didn't literally sit and chill while spaced out like toji in dagon's domain she'd probably dodge it) There are a lot of variables within a fight, but she'd probably already be on guard with him if he somehow came back to life out of nowhere to fight her, so I highly doubt she'd be dumb enough to lose against him. She could also just chill and wait for him to run out of cursed energy if she really wants to make sure she's safe. (That's such a petty way to win but jogo deserves it tbh if he was to fight against her again. Yass maki make him suffer) Now toji in shibuya... That's another thing entirely bc my man was acting like a mental patient after resurrecting from the dead within another sorcerer's body. Think about that as well; toji's damn body won over the soul of that sorcerer. WHATTT?!???? He's not even actually there, it's just his physical state of being alone was able to overpower a person's soul. Him and maki are the definition of built different. (Not me writing an entire essay's worth of content within this comment... It's not that deep luv why are you talking so much)

[@fork4207]

You know I’m glad after the few recent episodes that there giving my boy jogo some respect I mean who else can say they fought both gojo and sukuna.

[@svenlechtenberg8119]

I’d give it to toji mid to high diff depending on preparation or no preparation cause awakened maki which is on a level with Toji was able to react to cursed womb naoya zenin which should be faster or at least on a level with jogo (correct me if I got that totally wrong) And power etc toji slaps

[@Dell-ol6hb]

Jogo would win, his attack potency is just so insanely high I don’t really see how Toji could survive it. Shibuya Toji would certainly lose, Hidden Inventory Toji would have a higher chance but I still think he’d lose

[@om9959]

Jogo cannot hit toji even once .Hell even the character like curse naoya way faster than jogo cannot toji.Sakuna heavily supressed clapped jogo with physical power alone.

[@calliastah4115]

You do know what attack potency means right? It doesn't matter the speed, Jogo was engulfing an entire terrain in lava, making it rain explosive bugs, raising the temperature to 99C, firing beams, MF was like a Touhou character. And he was STILL holding back, cause he wouldn't have been able to win a Domain Expansion war against Sukuna.@@om9959

[@mrepicdood9953]

@@om9959 Sukuna wasn’t suppressed in his 15F form, but he was playing around to see what Jogo could do. This isn’t an Anti-Feat as Toji would get washed by 15F Sukuna the same way. (Also he used cleave multiple times on Jogo, but non-fatally, like cutting his arms.) Curse Naoya is faster than Jogo, but is also faster than Toji, and the precog wouldn’t work too well considering Jogo doesn’t just go in straight lines, he’s def hitting him.

[@Reesemike]

"Nah, I'd win." -Jogoat

[@demod2080]

Dude, Jogo would MELT Toji. I think people glaze Toji too much, the guy isn't invincible.

[@saiyanobe23g6]

No, Toji beats any of the Disaster Curses. He made light work of Dagon in his own domain with no difficulty at all, and Jogo was said to be a tier above Dagon, so imagine how dirty Toji would do Jogo? Toji is physically stronger, more durable, faster, and way more skilled.

[@kongxu4582]

They scaled him and jogo completely correctly, if you disagree because you don't "feel" like he would win, thats on your bias gang

[@rick7122]

Who would win between Jogo and Mahito

[@CastleOfAvalon]

​@@saiyanobe23g6okay, well...while I do agree on toji stomping all of the disaster curses, even at the same time, the domain of Dagon was incredibly weakened by Megumins domain. The sure hit effect would have made the battle somewhat more difficult.

[@saiyanobe23g6]

@@rick7122 Jogo obviously wins being the strongest disaster curse but Mahito had more potential than him, he was getting stronger and stronger by the day.

[@CadenTDB]

What is jogos sure hit effect? Bc when he opened all he said is usually most sorcerer would just burn as soon as it’s opened

[@neeba222]

Im confused, why wouldn't jogo's domain work on toji? I get it that dagon's domain was useless but toji can't bite lava.

[@rvegelahn5905]

Exactly

[@casterhook4988]

Barrier techniques see toji as an object as he doesn't have cursed energy so domains don't work on him

[@rvegelahn5905]

@@casterhook4988 yeah but the attacks from the domain still exist. They just aren’t guaranteed now

[@casterhook4988]

@@rvegelahn5905 even then toji and maki have choice to enter the domain or not

[@neeba222]

@@casterhook4988 yeah that’s why you cast it with a barrier to trap them. If they said that toji would just dodge the barrier trap I would understand.

[@kingk1590]

You can’t even use the argument Tojo was scared of jogo. He didn’t know who megumi was until after they left. Immediately after finding out he killed himself. So why would he try to escape with his son if he didn’t know it was his son at the time?

[@k_laid]

I honestly would love a video, on either your channel or Broken Ronin's channel, describing the quality of Sukuna's character, primarily in regards to whether or not he's one-dimensional, two-dimensional, or three-dimensional in terms of writing. I've met a number of people who have mixed opinions about it, and would honestly love a somewhat comprehensive analysis of his character's showings thus far, and your opinions on whether or not he's pretty well written, and why you think he is or isn't.

[@Warlord-dc5un]

"Stand proud Sukuna you are strong" ~JoGoat Nov 2023~

[@kiyomi5583]

Jogo: Look at us Gojo: Who would have thought? Jogo: Not me!

[@dominicwoodford5711]

Nahh Jogo sees Gojo and starts fearing for his arms I can’t get over how he had to resort to cutting his own arm off bc it kept getting caught if anything jogo is the divided one 😂😂😂

[@kylebarile9550]

seeing the bunnies doin some fancy foot work trying to kick toji and the freakin one arm block without even looking! Insane. Anime is doing jjk justice rn. hopefulyl it last

[@Rap-Slinger]

Jogoat: stand proud, you're strong toji

[@walaba8565]

Dude, I've had to debate more than a million people and you're going to make it worse. These Toji fans are insane you included if you think he can win. Believing that Toji is faster than Naobito is solely headcanon when Maki outsmarted Naoya (who is not confirmed to be faster) rather than blitzing him out of 24 frames. There's a myriad of other arguments including that Jogo hit Naobito OUT of his 24 frames while Maki adapted to the 24 frames. She didn't beat Naoya through speed she was just smarter. Even if Toji was faster by the amount you like to think he is, that's not enough. Jogo's insane area coverage and regeneration beats Toji in the long run. You cannot convince me Toji could dodge the way Sukuna could, you're absurdly biased if you think he's even close to 15f.

[@bacongod5759]

toji blitzes bro and negs him

[@walaba8565]

@@bacongod5759 most reasonable toji fan

[@akasakasad6271]

real, cursed naoya is shown faster than maki. She only increased her perception to travel speed. The guy was circling around her. In their first fight she needed a plan to even hit him. I see Toji at best comparable to Naobito but nothing too convincing to put him over.

[@souvikbose8282]

No, maki did not out smart naoya...he baited him to attack and was fast enough to not only react but count his 24 frames, keep in mind this maki was not at toji's level. When naoya comes back as a curse, he is straight up faster and after getting the power up and learning to utilise heavenly restriction at its fullest effect, maki straight up dog walks that naoya...so yes toji in terms of speed and reaction time is way beyonf naobito...this is also completely disregarding the fact the naoya himself claimed toji can straight up cook the zenin clan by himself including naobito. Give toji playful cloud and he dominates jogo.

[@walaba8565]

@@souvikbose8282 Do you know what counting the 24 frames is? Outsmarting. That's the point. She wasn't frozen due to obeying the 24 frames rule, hence she outsmarted him. She didn't just go supersaiyan and go break through it. Naoya never said "INCLUDING NAOBITO!!!" and that's a terrible statement not backed by anything. Toji is a myth in the Zenin family of couse Naoya would have a ridiculous idea of him. If you want to use unbacked statements then Toji is relative to 3f Sukuna because Megumi said so.

[@Caper-ez6ur]

six acts as if kenny is not watching everything and everyone at all times

[@sixfromtokyo]

The curses were just born though they weren't even registered yet.

[@BeatingFate]

​​@@sixfromtokyonot registered =/= unborn. Could just be unknown or undiscovered. IIRC that we are only explicitly told that mahito was born recently, where as the time of birth for the other three is ummentioned

[@sixfromtokyo]

@@BeatingFate yea if only I said "Not born = Not registered" I'm saying the fact that they weren't registered could imply they were born recently and aside from that there is this volume extra I put in the video where Jogo is sighing because all his opponents are just super strong like Gojo & Sukuna. So it's unlikely he's out fighting randoms or something he's probably not had that many fights if he's thinking something like that. But that points not TOO important it was just something I threw in for how Kenjaku might know how strong Jogo is considering how it seems they just met and he does seem to fight a lot.

[@BeatingFate]

@@sixfromtokyo my dumbass did not read your initial comment right 💀

[@sixfromtokyo]

@@BeatingFate you're coolin

[@daymianhogue1634]

Day 2 of asking for "What if the Jujutsu high main trio and/or "heavy hitters" participated in the Chunin exams" c'mon six you know it'd be a sick video (or two) you could easily do with Broken Ronin or No Operator.

[@jackmakila3776]

Awakened maki would be showing Sakura how to be a good character

[@nothingtoseehere9648]

I have no idea how Toji would even deal with Jogo's cursed technique given he is a human with no cursed energy and would just instantly melt if hit with any of his fire attacks Toji is the batman of JJK, he will win if he plans to fight but will completely lose otherwise

[@EmmanuelGbiaye]

Pre awakened Maki survived Jogo's flames. Grade 1 sorcererers are stated to be able to withstand the heat of Jogo's domain. Toji durability feats scales above the likes of special grades like Yuta, jackpot hakari and Ryu (not a special grade but more durable than Yuta)

[@nothingtoseehere9648]

@@EmmanuelGbiaye True although Jogo wasn't trying at all when he lit Maki up Toji also seemingly has no way to deal with Domain Expansions so he would get insta killed if hit by one but hitting him would be a hard part 😂 Toji is easily like top 5 in terms of speed in the series but Jogo's speed isn't nothing either, he is incredibly fast in his own regard

[@EmmanuelGbiaye]

@@nothingtoseehere9648 he was literally trying to get revenge for them killing his comrade. He was trying to kill them and they all survived. Naobito died because he got help too late and he's and old man + the attack he took seemed more severe.

[@EmmanuelGbiaye]

@@nothingtoseehere9648 Toji has a way of dealing with domain expansion. 1. Closed barrier domains exclude Toji. Basically Toji can't be pulled into a domain and his perfectly able to destroy it from the outside if he wishes and then kill then kill the caster while their Cursed techniques are on cool down. 2. Even if Toji decided (because it can't be forcefully trapped in it) to enter into a domain the sure hit cannot recognise him. Jogo would only have a physical buff and stronger techniques but his attacks would still be dodgeable

[@nothingtoseehere9648]

@@EmmanuelGbiaye I get that but he took out 3 people in less than 10 seconds come on it was lightweight 😂 That can't be true because Dagon was able to trap Maki in his domain and use his domains sure hit on her and Maki has no cursed energy just like Toji

[@nicodemusedwards6931]

It depends on how far away we have them start, and if we’re using Anime or Manga Jogo.

[@realizedpotential6640]

Toji the man who nearly ended Gojo even if he was far less experienced he was still very powerful in his own right (and would likely still beat Jogo back then with not too much effort) vs Jogo who got absolutely no diffed by Gojo also keep in mind Toji is still relevant in power/effort needed in the recent chapters since Gojo's mind immediately went to Toji against Sakuna when thinking about the last time he was pushed

[@fork-man]

Dude the gojo toji fought was specifically weakened and bassicly had a curse tool that negates CT which he pulled out and surprised gojo and when he fought sukana his life was being push back against the wall which reminded him that old time his life was push back against the wall against toji it reminded him of the situation he found himself in not toji power

[@realizedpotential6640]

@@fork-man he specifically was excited and said when was the time I was pushed this far in a fight or something along those lines..the fact he is reminded of Toji is respect in its own right towards that individuals capabilities

[@nicormoreno]

i feel like there is a huge difference between a no domain expansion fight and one where Jogo can expand the domain and Toji is going to be forced to take all the amplified attacks, there is no posible counter for Toji inside a domain

[@Suowooo]

No way u compared a tired young Gojo vs todays gojo. Toji gets no different against adult gojo

[@rightguy200000]

Toji couldn't even touch a well rested Gojo weaker and less experienced then the one that embarrassed Jogo.

[@hayyan958]

Toji 3 finger, Jogoat 8 or 9. 🤣

[@yogeshsinghrawat477]

Be proud you are strong

[@Rock1fyy]

Yall be forgetting that jogo's domain affects objects without cursed energy, if you put a tree in coffin of the iron mountain, it would burn, but toji doesn’t have a way to actually deal with the domain other than just camping outside

[@patrickthuis1]

Toji simply needs to use GUN to win like he did in his legendary battle against this random high school girl and he easily wins no diff

[@akasakasad6271]

idk if i agree with toji speed arguments. Just because he can beat someone doesn’t mean his speed automatically scales to them. I view toji as someone with reaction speeds and possibly striking speeds being above the naobito tiers but just like in the maki fight she used more perception to over come naoya both times. We see Naoya circling around her during her awakening but she can dodge. Still agree with the outcome tho but i do think in this franchise individual stats are way more important than just chain scaling

[@zillva]

Yeah, I agree. Maki didn't actually get any faster during her fight with curse Naoya, so without precog she would still get blitzed by him like at the start of the fight. The precog is also less useful against Jogo due to the variety of attacks, as well as range that he has. I personally think Toji is probably a bit faster than Jogo, but its not a lot, and its a high-diff fight for sure

[@akasakasad6271]

@@zillva i agree. They are somewhat relative imo with her perception only putting her over jogo. But, the anime paints it clear that jogo can make the battle field go to his advantage. Toji on paper can win but i think it would be tough just because Jogo abilities makes him versatile/he isn’t as predictable as projection sorcerers

[@revan8467]

Does anyone know what happened to the two members of Getos family that were also in maximum meteors radius, because I thought that it killed them cause we never saw them again after this to my memory

[@thetraplord1564]

What was the OST at the beginning, that slapped

[@snoozless987]

Nah, Jogo'd win.

[@kalebbutwithak]

nah, jogo'd win.

[@cyn880]

What about the panel where Megumi is saying Toji is "maybe" faster than 3 finger Sukuna

[@darkskin3134]

Gojo out right claims jogo is stronger than that and the 3 finger sukuna wasn’t even that fast from what we saw

[@sebastiaogaiolas9739]

the 3 finger part is pointless comparison, Sukuna has access to Yuji´s body which is already superhuman in speed and strength to begin with. At some point the finger power comparison will fall shorter than the actual body host Sukuna has. This is why later in the manga, Sukuna at 20 fingers strength is nowhere near the physical feats of when he had yuji´s body because he changed to a weaker host.

[@DDJFilmss]

Thank you for making this vid, them Twitter niggas was acting like they forgot how to read😂

[@Anonymous-ig1gr]

In the show when sukuna was walking through the building while getting attacked he hand 1 hand out I figured it meant he was half as strong as him idk