Tom Holland is NOT a Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man!

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[@EnigmaShadow03]

MCU Spider man is just Iron Man jr.

[@BullyMaguireShots]

Iron boy jr

[@IronDoom-e5n]

No he isn't, he's just associated with Ironman that's it. Not every Spiderman needs to be a broke guy with girl issues

[@BullyMaguireShots]

@@IronDoom-e5n Yeah something an Iron boy jr would say.

[@IronDoom-e5n]

@@BullyMaguireShots Something a Tobey Glazer would say

[@BullyMaguireShots]

@@IronDoom-e5n Something a iron boy jr would say in response to the mvp

[@YodaOnABender]

That montage in Homecoming was the only time Tom remotely resembled the “friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man”

[@okand6770]

That deleted scence from ffh when he interacted with the cops That scene from the nwh extended cut when he stopped a thief

[@YodaOnABender]

@@okand6770 yeah that *deleted* scene

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

No there's more

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

@@okand6770 yeah

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

@@YodaOnABender ok

[@truesoulgaming6009]

Honestly thank you for saying this. It was exactly what needed to be said. When it came to the impact of Toby’s Spider-Man, it was leagues above what we have gotten today.

[@devinjabairemoss]

That part

[@IronDoom-e5n]

Tobey Maguire was a much better Spiderman than Tom Holland, but Tom's Peter Parker is LEAGUES more likable that Tobey's Peter.

[@plsdontbeahero]

Mcu Spider-Man always felt kinda off to me

[@Axe_Fax]

100% agree

[@prolastmedia6171]

Thats cuz MCU Spidey isn't Spidey, he's Iron Boy Jr. Hopefully after the soft reboot of No Way Home, we'll get a more accurate Spidey

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Not really

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

​@@prolastmedia6171ok that's wrong but no way home already did that

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

​@@Axe_Faxnah

[@SuperRamtin]

After your points, I have to agree. The trilogy so far could've really been improved in terms of introducting Spider-Man. But that still doesn't stop me personally from loving his movies.

[@Axe_Fax]

As I said in the video if you think what was shown in the MCU works for you and its smth you love thats great and I respect your opinion. More importantly, am very thankful that you watched the entire video and hope you enjoyed it!

[@Amado79193]

I feel like a reason why it’s like this is because his movies are based off huge threats instead of small scale stuff and because in his universe he’s just a a kid in red and blue tights in a city with aliens and way more powerful heros who’ve been there longer.

[@IronDoom-e5n]

Thank you, finally someone with a brain that See's the bigger picture.

[@ramonoctaviofloresmeza6780]

" Tom Holland is Not a Friendly Neighborhood Spider-man " No, Of couse not. But its not his fault, it's Feige's fault. He and MCU people who doesn't know what to do with him, if he should be Iron Man Jr, or the New face of Marvel Studios, or the young hero who barely is beginning to introduce the world. Its a crazy caos.

[@Axe_Fax]

I agree, I am not too happy on how he has been handling things either

[@sigshvfx]

I agree but he was/is supposed to be the original face of Marvel. Now their just smearing dirt in his eyes.

[@hamizanyunos1502]

@@Axe_Fax I think MCU is taking pages from Ultimate Comics, where Spiderman is seen as this controversial or wildcard hero that New Yorkers largely don't fully trust

[@kevinskywalker5539]

@@Axe_Fax , i blame fiege for causing tasm 3 to be cancelled and reboot spidey into the mcu.

[@kaior1]

spider man should be the focus and face of the mcu after iron man yet they dont do it and do this pulling game with sony

[@isaiahthomas4444]

You know the sad part is there's a deleted scene in the 2nd movie of him beating the mob and had funny banter with the cops. The MCU CHOOSE to not include that. Mind you it's only one scene but it'll definitely help his image

[@Saje3D]

Every iteration of the character gets this response from SOMEONE. It’s like a broken record only us fogies recognize as background noise.

[@danielau7365]

I was kinda expecting you to go on a rant with no substance. And oh boy was I proven WRONG! Well done!

[@Axe_Fax]

Appreciate the love, my goal is to provide content that everyone enjoy and even if someone is to disagree they can still understand what I am saying bringing us all together.

[@SonicHedgehog1991]

The whole "The trilogy was supposed to be his origin" argument always seemed off to me cause No Way Home felt very much like a last minute script change, it wasn't set up at any point throughout his movies and the cliffhanger from Far From Home pretty much became forgotten a few minutes after the opening.

[@Axe_Fax]

100% agree with all of this, I also think that this being the full origin story contradicts their whole pitch for Homecoming of "everyone knows his origin so lets skip that and just get to Spidey stories". They're just very clearly trying to cope imo with the fact that people didn't like these movies as much as Marvel thought they would.

[@michaeljosephjackson2364]

​@@Axe_Faxi think in across the verse it is explained that fate of all spiderman and peter parker fate are connected and will result to one way Death of uncle ben and peter being poor So thats why tom had same thing happened what happened to tobey and andrew

[@HaloWingProductions]

​@@michaeljosephjackson2364Eh not really. One of the biggest issues with MCU SM is the fact that he doesn't have an origin so the purpose for why he's a hero doesn't exist and they just force him into the roles without properly writing him. Also I wouldn't take what Across the Spiderverse says too seriously because that movie has a bunch of problems people dont see or want to talk about.

[@nuh-uhbro765]

I completely agree with everything you said and I hope they stay truer to the character going forward, but I also gotta say I think it’s great how unique his origin story has been. We’ve seen the comic accurate story done twice already and sending Spider-Man to space, having him fight Thanos and die, come back, fight a wizard, open the multiverse and learn the “with great power comes great responsibility line” from variants of himself is a damn cool origin story. This Peter has been through a lot of really weird crap. Admittedly those kinds of things are less central to the core of the character, but they also do represent the weirder sides of comics that the older films never even dared to.

[@nuh-uhbro765]

I wanna correct myself before anybody else does, I know May is the one who says the line but it’s the other Peters who really drive it home for him.

[@lmaono1356]

Had that been the intent from the from the start, I would have been happy with that, but the problem is that it leaves an even larger disconnect between how he’s portrayed in Civil War and how he is in Homecoming. According to his dialogue with Tony in CW, he already had a sense of responsibility. From Homecoming onward, he is portrayed as less capable and less responsible (not sure why, but alas). Due to CW, having 6:16 NWH serve as the completion of his origin through May makes Peter look like an idiot for needing to learn this lesson AGAIN. This trilogy works much better if CW Spidey didn’t exist 😭

[@elijahmiller3989]

In short it just hasn’t happened yet. Yes he should be appreciated for what he does but that rarely happens even in reality.

[@Spyder1]

MCU Spidey movies always feel so isolated, I feel like I never get to experience the world around him and his environment. The only time I've ever felt that with MCU Spidey was the small montage in homecoming, where that guy tells him to do a flip. These movies all feel like they're shot on a soundstage, and the people in the background are all NPC's not actually people. I feel like I never see Tom save random civilians.

[@ShrekThaOGEE]

My favorite thing about spider-man is that when he’s interacting with New York citizens he’s basically interacting with us… the way the people love him is a direct reflection of how much we love him in real life but without even having the context of knowing his story. It’s awesome and wholesome

[@bluewolf5521]

This is the reason I love the spider-man games. First game was peter 8 years into spider-man, he's been helping people and did his best. The people were with him, even when the worst happened. Feast, his friends and ordinary people. He may have became sable's most wanted at the end but that didn't stop him from helping. Even two of his villains know who Spider-man is under the mask and they didn't tell anyone. There were times where it felt Shocker and Electro some what respected him. Electro and Spider-man bantering, or Herman not wanting to hurt him in the first place during the chance but he felt like he had no choice due to Mr Negative's threats and Spider-man just chasing him. We even see Tombstone excited that he could feel something again during and after his boss fight. The fact people on the street compliment him, that he can interact with them. Even the side missions you can do with Howard feel like this is how a Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-man should feel like. He gets support from Police, his loved ones and randoms alike. Even during the dlc, Spider-man just orders a damn pizza, knows the owners name and the owner knows exactly where it needs to go to be collected. He gains Silver Sable's respect, and the two work together to fight off Hammer Head. In the second game, although a few missions can be done as Peter or Miles. Many of them feel right to do as Peter, the Howard mission there is depressing but heart warming. The Emt's are respectful to Peter, try to bring him comfort. The mission with the grand pa Peter just sits with the guy until the grand daughter can reach them. The photographer, Peter just helps her try to get a great shot. He knows he can't save everyone, but he tries his best to. Even if it means him going down with them. We even see some reformed villains care more about him than they ever had in the first place. I know this can all change in the next few movies, how he can gain the respect and support of the people just by doing what he can. But for right now, Tom Holland spider man isn't a friendly neighbour hood spider man. He's just Spider Man, until he gets moments like the other versions got, from movies to cartoons. Only then he can be considered A Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. Sorry if I spoiled the second game a bit for some people but it's been out for over a month.

[@DTC-Destroythecollider]

Venom: “AT LAST! YOU ARE FINALLY HATED SPIDERMAN! NO ONE LOVES YOU! NOT EVEN US!”

[@puffpuffpassmako]

Tom's Spider-Man is missing a crucial scene that the other two have: New York Citizens assisting in defeating the villain. Andrew and Tobey are both shown support and gratitude by the city through this. In Spider-Man 1, the civilians on the bridge throw stuff at Goblin to buy him time to save MJ and the Trolley, while garbagemen drive their boat to give him a safe platform. And after its done, everyone cheers. The icing on the cake is one lime said by a civilian "You mess with Spider-Man you mess with new York. If its one of us, its all of us". And the crane scene in ASM1. The construction workers know spider man is injured and is trying to stop Lizard. So they create web slinging points with their cranes to help him get there faster. They even shout on their PA that new York has his back. But Tom's. They IMMEDIATELY turn on him and treat him like garbage. But I don't blame the writing. Its mostly cause of how we as people changed in the last two decades. People believe everything they see on social media even if its a lie. This proves Mysterio's "believe" speech and Goblin's "hate you" points. People will turn on you on a whim to suit their wants and needs

[@kso86.]

it’s fairly comic accurate though, in most incarnations new york and the people as a whole view spider-man as a weirdo and a nuisance due to jameson’s rants and overtime they learn to love and appreciate spidey

[@hamizanyunos1502]

@@kso86. I would argue that in-universe and chronologically it make sense why Spiderman has not yet built a public persona. This Spiderman seem to have spent most of his time dealing with low-level crooks and throughout the MCU most of Spiderman's heroism are not publicly known especially in the case of Homecoming where he stopped major heists at night.

[@ChisomagaIhezie]

A BIG issue with this is that MCU Spiderman (Peter Parker) is adaptaion of SPIDERMAN'S (MILES') comic story. Meaning that Peter is comic Miles. This also means if anyone wants to create a Miles Morales story without the multiverse, they will face HUGE problems with the MCU.

[@swordchannelfires]

This captured a lot of things to be desired about MCU Spider-Man but in the same time it’s not entirely correct since Tom is THE most friendly neighborhood Spider-Man out of them all, let me explain In homecoming, most of the movie was him helping out the little ones. Helping an old lady with the directions, being friendly around his neighborhoods, he feels more down to earth as he doesn’t feel like a symbol of hope, rather feels like a regular guy who’s trying to do good, remember Spider-Man was never created so he can resemble hope (that came as a secondary thing) he was created to be relatable, last I checked u don’t get people looking up to u and think they’re safe right? Same scenario here. heck in earth 616, not everyone appreciated him for what he was doing in fact, in one of his comics, he was holding the daily bugle on his shoulders so it doesn’t collapse, EVERYONE saw what he did, yet not everyone thinks he’s a hero despite literally seeing him stop a literal skyscraper from falling right on top of their heads. after saving them all right in front of their eyes, JJJ’s immediate first reaction to that was to tell the cops to “arrest him”, MCU Spider-Man was also created in a world where superheroes were doing this job before him unlike his comic counterpart where he was just as experienced as his fellow heroes were. another thing worth mentioning is that MCU Spidey is also in a world where superheroes r common,some of them r literal gods too, so in there perspective y would they look at a guy in spider costume and feel hope when they can look at bigger superheroes who have been on the job for longer and against larger threats?

[@Axe_Fax]

I am not saying there needs to be appreciation from everyone in NYC but just have us see moments of them showing it would be great which the MCU does not. Ik the reference you are making from the comics which is a source that at least has given us what the MCU has not. He may not be as experienced as people like Iron Man or Thor but is still an experienced Super Hero at the time who has been fighting crime for several years before he was snapped. He may be in a universe with all these heroes but thats not a new thing for Spider-Man to experience, he may j be a superhuman in a spider costume but he is one that is meant to always be there for NYC when a lot of these big heroes are not while also being there for the big events to help save the day. Thats why NYC should have this appreciation for him.

[@swordchannelfires]

@@Axe_Fax Peter isn't the only superhero in New York tho, another thing that made people not appreciate him much also I forgot to mention something else, about no one mourning for Spider-Man when he blipped that's cuz they didn't mourn for any superhero heck the entire half of the world just disappeared without any warning

[@anakerendoofenshmertz9985]

He's not relatable and acts very ignorant in order to drive the plot. He does use gen z humor, but is a bad carbon copy of what life as a teenager is like. This Peter Parker is basically Stark's sugar baby. He trusted a man he just met with glasses that were a gift from Tony Stark. If he never gave the glasses, there would be no plot. Though I guess since this Spider man has an unreliable spider sense, someone may have been able to steal the glasses. Then, in the next movie, he goes on to trust villains for the sake of the plot. It was unrealistic since he had no background knowledge on them.

[@swordchannelfires]

@@anakerendoofenshmertz9985 literally what?? U must not be high-school if u think he's not relatable, bro all what stark does to Peter is giving him a suit and the rest is Peter doing his own thing, he constantly disobeys him, am I the only one who understood what happened with Mysterio?? Wasn't Nick Fury the guy who introduced Mysterio and his back story to Peter, it's known that Nick never trusts anyone so when he LITERALLY introduces another superhero to u, you'd obviously believe it, blame the damn skrull disguised as Nick, he's the 1 who made Peter fall for it

[@anakerendoofenshmertz9985]

@@swordchannelfires He reminds me more of a child than a teenager sometimes. Even if Nick Fury introduced him to Mysterio, there's no reason why Peter should give the glasses to him. So, the only reason he did it was to further the plot. Also, I don't like how Spiderman became Iron Man's subordinate. Spiderman should have been able to make his own suit and not rely on so much technology. The other two live-action Spiderman's sewed their suit together. The only invention this Peter has made was the web shooter and the web fluid.

[@AndroidHarris]

I love mcu spiderman but your 100% right.

[@Poolverine580]

I like Tom Holland Spider-Man but sometimes it feels wierd Spider-Man being Robin in the Infinity Saga like most people call him Iron Boy Jr. Spider-Man in the MCU is more of a sidekick rather than a lone superhero. Before I watch MCU movies I watch The Raimi films, The Avengers: EMH, Spectacular Spider-Man, Ultimate Spider-Man, Avengers: Assemble and when I first saw the MCU Spider-Man I used to think it was The Amazing Spider-Man because one Aunt May looking like a step mom rather than aunt may in the comics. There's nothing wrong with Tom Holland but I wish they had Spider-Man's character arc be a little bit like the comics like knowing the great power comes great responsibility in the infinity saga and not his character arc come from Iron Man. Well atleast he's better than Spider-Man from the 2017 cartoon because Peter in the MCU doesn't always get help for example He fought Vulture by himself he fought Thanos with no effort even kicking his face he held the infinity gauntlet (he didn't snap) he defeated Dr. Strange by using Math he prevented Bucky from punching his face he stand alone fighting Mysterio and Peter defeating Dr. Strange just show that he could defeat other Marvel heroes when he can.

[@Axe_Fax]

I do agree with you, a lot of people like to argue his experience yet he was already Spider-Man for around 2 and a half/3 years before he got snapped. And like to argue how there are way larger profiled heroes with things that make them viewed higher such as a god like Thor but that is something I always felt is something Spider-Man has been through you know?

[@Poolverine580]

@@Axe_Fax yeah but in No Way Home the Iron Boy Jr jokes are already dead.

[@Axe_Fax]

Has nothing to do with that. Even if the Iron Boy Jr jokes are done (a community created thing the MCU brought to their movie bc of how viral the dislike for their Spider-Man) it does not change anything from the video or my previous comment you know?@@Poolverine580

[@Poolverine580]

@@Axe_Fax yeah I respect anyone's opinion I mean when I see spider man in the MCU I thought it was Andrew Garfield being recasted because his too old but yet it's another different Spider-Man. I was expecting Peter's character in the MCU be more like the comics because I can always relate to Spider-Man but I'm not sure if I could relate much to the MCU Spider-Man also he doesn't really feel like Spider-Man or a legendary hero his more of a robin type sidekick of Iron Man

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

I guess all it takes is a actor that looks and acts like the character and not for the actual movies be like the comics

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

for me personally never did much for me

[@MrIrdatlan]

7:24 i love that part in the movie, like the detail of Peter already having his hand there to catch the rock but it getting caught my Matt Murdock is so cool to see, THEY dont know Matt is Daredevil yet but he already showed his ability.

[@SubParGames_]

I can give a clear reason in one sentence, unlike Tobey's or Andrew's spiderman, Tom's spiderman lives in a world with other heroes who get more attention than a kid tryna his hardest to help, don't go talking bs like this without using ya brain.

[@bossmine3997]

Him living a world with other heroes doesn't stop him from getting attention plus his flat brain self sure as hell got attention in far from home and no way home

[@SubParGames_]

@@bossmine3997It doesn't stop it entirely, but it would affect his popularity a lot

[@bossmine3997]

@@SubParGames_ that's dumb because no names like mysterio gets attention so it's clear that these changes are badly written especially spiderman

[@Evoker23-lx8mb]

Homecoming was the closest MCU Spider-Man had to being the friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man but even that was going directly against the show, don’t tell rule. I’m hoping that’s gonna be touched upon in Spider-Man 4.

[@Spidey_was_taken]

I’ve got to agree with almost all of this I hope they can show the connection he has with the people in nyc and the impact he has in the next trilogy

[@thomasbennett0]

The first 3 MCU Spiderman movies are his origin story. The next trilogy could be like the others.

[@noneedtoknow-yv2tu]

Taking it's time with it for three pretty meh to alright movies.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

​@@noneedtoknow-yv2tuwaste of a trilogy

[@devinjabairemoss]

MCU Spider-Man is perfectly fit to entertain a child and/or an MCU fanatic. It contains enough juvenile and simple humor that’s entertaining enough to keep a child’s attention. But it’s unfortunately poor quality enough to unironically entertain or bore an adult Spidey fan. And it retains just enough iconography and imagery to temporarily engage a fan of the character. The MCU Spider-Man trilogy lacks the intensity, the style, the flavor, the action and violence, as well as the drama of its comic and even its live action predecessors (Raimi and Webb) and it doesn’t really justify choosing it over the comics except from the villains used in the first two movies which very terribly mishandled by Disney and Marvel. It serves as a vessel of low end modern day MCU superhero entertainment in the current age where Marvel Studios isn’t so sure what to do with their characters after the perfect storm that was Avengers 3&4. So basically the priority is just getting a product out the door rather telling an actual solid and emotionally resonant story with Spider-Man. The MCU Spider-Man trilogy is an embarrassment to the Spider-Man legacy. Just absolutely pathetic.

[@JustACactus616]

This is gonna be a lot haha 1. In Hoemcoming at the ferry, Spider-man gets a little appreciation, but then the danger increases. When iron man saves the day, they give him credit because he did most of the saving. And this directly leads to Peter’s ark in this movie, where he needs to no longer rely on Stark, but be his own hero. 2. When Spider-man “dies” in infinity war, there could be a memorial, but we don’t have time to see it. And half of the entire universe dies so I’d just like to mention he’s not the only one. 3. Maybe it’s not in-universe, but I like how his death gets a special moment, ripping at our hearts- and that’s not even a Spider-man movie 4. In Far From Home, when he stops Hydro Man (Mysterio “defeated” them anyway) nobody knows he’s Spider-man. 5. Also, Far From Home is more of a Peter Parker movie, focusing on Peter balancing his own life, even in vacation. And Europe is a change after 5.5 movies in New York 6. NO New Yorkers? At least half of the people root for him. But the movie follows the struggle, and even if they don’t blame them as a murderer, they know who he is, so he’s less of an icon 7. One thing is that he has to balance with all the other heroes. One character won’t be the heart of super hero central when they’re at least two others at a time. And it’s not like they could do anything about this 8. In Homecoming Vulture isn’t a big supervillain like electro or green goblin. He’s lower stakes, which I like especially for the bigger universe. And Mysterio was gonna kill many many people, but Spider-man did this in Europe so there’s not gonna be that New York theme. 9. By the time Peter gets back, idk if normal citizens know the story, but just a week later the entire story- with a fake twist is revealed. So there’s no time or place for appreciation then 10. Also in Homecoming, after Spider-man saves a few students, the entire school is thankful. This might not be much to the entirety of New York, but it is appreciation nonetheless. Also he motivates Flash if that says enough Although I do like the positive ending unlike with most video essays 👍🌵 Dang that’s a lot haha

[@JustACactus616]

Also I’m ready to argue. I’m just gonna let anyone know I’m not gonna stop until I prove my point 🙃

[@tacticalgengar420]

He literally does NOTHING for the little people

[@dannyhernandez265]

MCU Holland movies are not rewatchable for me. Besides NWH cause Tobey and Andrew came out in it. Lol

[@ChillyChief612]

That's probably why the mcu was reset with Doctor Strange. It gives him the time to shine as his own hero and step out of Iron mans shadows, which i think has always held Tom holland Spiderman back. I love all the tom holland saga of movies but I would definitely agree that he lacks his own identity as a hero, he goes from a side kick to goofy kid with powers and its really disappointing. I think what really rubbed salt in the wound for everyone is far from home. He seems to regress from everything he learned from liz allen in homecoming. In far from home he is so fixated on asking MJ out its pretty insulting to the identy of spidermans responsibility. I mean he doesnt even want to bring his suit with him to Venice he could not care about being Spider-Man. I think its just do to the writing however. People responed well to homecoming because it was more of a goofy movie and they wanted to replicate it with far from home and its really unfortunate because its really just the same movie without any of the charecter progression. And no way home is just fan service for spiderman fans so we just get very basic story filler and peter really doesnt evolve until we get the scene with Aunt May.

[@gabethebabe3337]

The worst part is people use the excuse that all 6 of his movie appearances in the MCU are his origin story…even though the main thing they praised when Civil War and Homecoming came out was that it skipped the origin. So the trade off is 6 whole movies vs barely 30 minutes for an origin story. That’s the other lamest thing about this version of the character. Nothing from his actual comic book origin matters until the second half of the final movie in his 6 appearances. Ben Parker doesn’t even matter in this universe. Uncle Ben is the driving force behind what makes Spider-Man a good guy. Without him AND May, Peter would have been a villain. A version of Spider-Man where Ben Parker isn’t Peter’s inspiration to be a good man is no Spider-Man to me.

[@ajthemoneyking]

Tom holland is not Spider-Man I don’t care what anyone says read the ultimate Spider-Man comics if you wanna see what Tom holland’s version is Spider-Man is QUITE LITERALLY supposed to be based off of, and they are completely different night and day characters and don’t even get me started on the MCU aunt may like wtf bruh 💀 you can’t have aunt may used as a fucking sex joke for 3 movies and then try to have her have a emotional death sort of like an uncle Ben moment, not to mention that means the moment in civil war where Peter tells tony about “when you have the powers I do and don’t do anything and then the bad things happen… they happen because of you” meant nothing… because uncle Ben never told him with great power comes great responsibility like wtf 🤦🏽‍♂️ these mfs really fucked up his whole character go rewatch tom’s trilogy and tell me if that’s spider-man because we do not know the same Spider-Man. I know i shouldn’t be taking it this seriously but damn it’s just sad seeing a character you grew up loving turned in to this

[@bullylowenthal2683]

Nothing you said was right just bullshit

[@Tyrineal]

I feel like Homecoming had a good start to establishing him as a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man but FFH kinda went off the rails with his direction where the world itself wanted him to take Iron Man's place. I feel like MCU Spidey should just be a street level hero who ends up jumping into larger fray's due to it effecting New York vs he is at the front trying to be something he was never intended to be. Hopefully a new trilogy will keep him grounded and out of these massive encounters unless it is absolutely needed for him to be present. Like for the upcoming Secret Wars, MCU Spider-Man shouldn't be involved in a major way but instead (if the rumors are true) and Tobey is one of leads for the film, he could find the MCU Spidey having fallen to the Venom symbiote and he takes Andrew's Spider-Man with him to get the suit off of him and then they make him just hang back and protect what remains of New York until the crisis is done. This version is way to young to have been through what he has, him being more grounded in stories would do his character some much needed good. That's why I think Tobey and Andrew do a much better job; their Spider-Men are grounded and it's believable that they could do more but are to focused on New York. With NWH, both get thrown into a multi-versal crisis and actually do amazingly well.

[@edwind8071]

to be fair, i think it’s kinda unfair to compare the praise the other Spider-Men for the connection they have with the city when they are literally the ONLY heroes in their universe. Holland’s Spider-Man is one of the newest amongst many established heroes who have been around for around a decade. it’s also pretty accurate for people to disregard spider man and make him feel unappreciated, because he doesn’t do it for the praise he does it because it’s right even if he doesn’t get recognition.

[@JOHN_DOE_RETURNS]

Exactly edwind, he isn't the only Hero in his World. If Spider-Man wants to be the Face of New York he has some Big Shoes to Fill. That Role has been Taken by the Avengers. Avengers saved the Earth twice before Spider-Man even Joined them in Infinity War. The Avengers been gained New York's Respect along with the Whole World's Praise a while back, before Peter. How can you Outshine the Achievement of beating the Trickster God himself Loki and Stopping an Alien Invasion and more stuff I'm too Lazy to mention that they did? There's a reason people call the Avengers "The Earth's Mightiest Heroes". I'm not saying it's impossible for Spidey to beat the Avengers "High Score" but, it damn sure gonna take lots time and hard work to pull that Achievement off. In Society, Respect is not something people are born with. Respect ain't Free, it is Earned through putting some type of Work in. Wtf, Like Jesus Christ People. All these Peter Tingle Arguments are Tickling my 12 Inch Coc- 👁 👁 👄

[@36090pburke]

It's okay to be wrong but homecoming is the top 3 live action spiderman film

[@revitalisestudios1930]

I used to feel this way until NWH. I think as annoying as uncle Ben being replaced with tony is, I think the story is the same but with a different person. I think by the end of NWH he became his own

[@benjo8547]

Is MCU Spider-Man even Peter Parker? Or is he just a random amalgamation of a good-boy superhero themed character with the name Peter Parker stamped on him?

[@DannyLee-zv9gl]

What are you even saying

[@jasonr2605]

I agree with mostly everything other then when spiderman died in the mcu. Your point would make more sense if he was like the only one that died or apart of a group of heros that died but like half of the planet died. Most people would realistically be going through mourning over the multiple friends and family that they just lost. That point just didn’t really click for me other then that this was a cool vid.

[@Dev_A_Station]

I love how this discourse is being said NOW when they finally fixed him. Where was this energy during homecoming? Ive said it even back that that it was off. Everyone else said it was one of the greatest spiderman movies ever. I cringed and was filled with anger and now everyone is backtracking and finally criticizing this character. Its frustrates me but when you’re a true visionary, you eventually accept you’re ahead of everyone else.

[@sahilhossian8212]

Lore of Tom Holland is NOT a Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man! Momentum 100

[@TAXXfromTheLenz]

In my perspective Tom Holland’s Spiderman is lil bro. You can tell Toby and Andrew’s Spiderman, even Miles Morales, takes on a leadership role within themselves before being a leader to the people. “Nah, I’ma do my own thing.” They’ve also experienced pain to grow. I’m not sure I see that in MCU spidey.

[@ShrekThaOGEE]

“The multiverse tho”

[@Jalen_the_Supersaiyan]

I always felt like there was something off about MCU Spider-Man.

[@benjo8547]

Remember that scene in Spider-Man 3 before the final battle, the flag scene where the citizens cheer for him as he appears. Moments like that or something.

[@joaquix3471]

maybe we'll have that in the next Spiderman movie

[@haydennodine6884]

You say no one cares when spider man dies in the MCU but brother, half the fucking universe died... I feel like people had more going on than just spiderman dying. He wasn't even the only superhero who died there was like 8 that died that day

[@JohnCena-iq3tg]

I feel like that kinda the point if mcu spidey. He’s been to caught up in the big leagues and ignores the city. There are hints of it here and there, but I think that’s what Andrew and Toby made him realise. You can see Witt him getting rid of the stark tech and making his own suit. I could be completely wrong but I bet the next movie will be him connecting to the city.

[@MarioSonicPhillyFan700]

I have nothing against the MCU as a whole, but I agree the way they portrayed Spider-Man outside of Captain America 3: Civil War is a mixed bag situation for me. The Pros: Tom Holland has the look to play a young Spider-Man, has good action, some decent acting, and well executed villains. The Cons: I don't like Ned or MJ. MJ is a miserable character throughout the trilogy, Ned is infuriating every scene that he's in and has no idea what he's doing. The teenager drama, Flash being dumb instead of being a tough bully and lastly completely retconning Uncle Ben. With that being said, he is just a decent Spider-Man.

[@prochetoshsanyal]

Going forward Spider-Man should replace Iron Man in the MCU. Not in a way that he is Iron Man jr leader of the Avenger, but as the face of the MCU. Throughout Phase 1-3, Iron Man and Captain America have been the connecting thread that tied everything together nicely. Spider-Man is a character who has ties with the Avengers obviously, along with Wolverine and X-Men, F4, Daredevil and the Street level heroes, Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, the Young Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy. He doesn't necessarily have to lead the Avengers, but he can be a part of it when needed, and he can bring together different heroes. At other times he can be the real friendly neighborhood Spider-Man and the hope of NYC.

[@rennenb]

Yoooo you are straight COOKIN I always saw this but I didnt ever notice it, maybe not that Peter’s slate had been reset we get a chance to see him interact with his city

[@Oldschool1943]

it's ironic that u bring up "Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" bcuz that's Tobey Mcgurie's spider-man official name since nwh.

[@videohousejsq]

I absolutely agree. Hopefully with the next three films and three cameos in other hero films, there will be more of a relationship between him and the city. I’d really like to see him have a full movie just in the city as well. I feel like MCU Spider-Man’s movies so far haven’t truly taken place in the city yet.

[@angrym0nkeysh0w]

Honestly, considering everything that has happened with the character lately, I would not be surprised if Tom Holland made just one more film in which Miles Morales will be introduced. I believe the MCU would also want to establish Miles as the main Spider-Man in the future

[@StarBrickAnimations]

A true fan would love all three spiderman equally not say which one is worse and be grateful that they exist.(grow up)

[@angrym0nkeysh0w]

@@StarBrickAnimations That's actually an extremely childish point of view

[@StarBrickAnimations]

@@angrym0nkeysh0w oh shut up you know I'm speaking fax y'all just need to accept that there is no bad adaptation of three we all have our favorites of the three but that doesn't mean two of them are bad bruh💀

[@angrym0nkeysh0w]

@@StarBrickAnimations "speaking fax" Yep. You're a child confirmed

[@everything-comics1102]

Tom Holland has all the qualities of a great Spider-Man. It’s just not in your face. He learns to be friendly neighborhood by the end of homecoming that’s literally the point of the movie. He learns he doesn’t need to be iron boy by the end of far from home and by the end of no way home he learns how to keep his loved ones away from Spider-Man. He has the most comic accurate suit now, beating tasm 2. All marvel has to do is not bring back Ned and Mj and give us black cat and Gwen 4:47 You do understand there are other superheroes in the mcu right. Black widow and Hawkeye are more popular than Spider-Man in universe. They aren’t gonna thank him or look at him like a hero because they expect to be saved. They only thank the high profile heroes. 5:35 The worlds most popular heroes in the mcu resided in NYC. Stop acting like MCU Spidey could’ve been an inspiration. Unless he was introduced phase 1 why would you expect that? Especially when he’s not even in his college era yet, he’s 17 rn as of NWH. Nobody’s gonna look at him as the “hope of nyc” when they have captain America and iron man to look at. It’s simply put there are literally a plethora of other super heroes. We all know George Washington, Trump and Lincoln but we don’t really bring up Madison. I do agree, Spidey has much more potential now but Tom Holland is friendly neighborhood. Helping an old lady find a churro, leaving a note on a stolen bike, saving a deli cat. So much more, Tom Holland is Friendly neighborhood and now he’s running solo it’s gonna be easier to see

[@Diablo3364]

Well it appears that someone didn't understand the point of the trilogy

[@nbriez-c5914]

I forgot how much I loved that ASM1 suit

[@mtjtv247]

You’re right, but that’s what makes tom hollands Spider-Man different and have brighter opportunities for the future

[@Gabriel-qq5zn]

I think if Sony let Marvel use spider-man in more projects he could’ve built more of a connection to the city, but it just kinda sucks that they’re so protective over him. I still do love the MCU movies tho!

[@AntsTheaterCorner2698]

The best Spider-Man is anyone in Spider-Verse. Facts

[@Axe_Fax]

Very fair, Peter B Parker had a great story in Into the Spider-Verse, love what they've done with Miles to this day!

[@MrLashai93]

did those cops really let a kid stand out there like that? lmao

[@konus.]

what gives me hope is that in nwh everyone forgets about spiderman so he can get a fresh start and become proper spidey

[@JamesBlakeBoland]

You have to remember there was a plan for this Spider-Man to merge with Sony meaning potentially 6 films, so to extend the lesson of great power great responsibility is good storytelling, I think they could have potentially made it clearer he’s not Spider-Man and this is effectively a origin trilogy to being Spider-Man. but when the penny dropped with what they where trying to do, by having the past Spider-Man to guide him be the last puzzle is soo unique and was a very effective experience when I left the cinema, if he’s the more traditional Spider-Man we know in the next instalments im sure we’ll look back on the first three fondly and I impressed with their direction. Also could argue it’s more realistic he wasn’t the Peter we know as he is a young teen and I’m a adult and I still struggle to be responsible often.

[@spiderknight44]

Did everyone forget tho “come on spider man” scene were they literally created a scene in the comics where he was picking up the rubble

[@noneedtoknow-yv2tu]

That's just brownie points "look comic accuracy" doesn't mean it's better than Tobey Maguire Spider-Man stopping the train in Spider-Man 2

[@spiderknight44]

@@noneedtoknow-yv2tu bro all I’m saying is that all of three actors had a spider man moment and all of them are a friendly neighborhood spider man and plus I don’t see the comparison in the three because each interpretation of character is different with different story’s being told

[@jajo3203]

You know even with the scenes in homecoming of him being a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man you made Me realize that Its really stupid how Mysterio showed up and in less than a week or two was praised and loved by the whole world And people Immediately turned on Spiderman It would've made no way home way better if the people of New York were divided on loving Spiderman and hating him if not most loving him at least cause Now I just hate them all😭

[@gentle_orange_]

I will just say in No Way Home he has people who love him as a person (not just his friends, Aunt May, and Doctor Strange.) There were people shown in one scene who do love him, well the others did not. So it was divided but it can be hard to see those types of details.

[@jajo3203]

@@gentle_orange_ Yeah the Only people that still loved him were two of his teachers and of course flash everyone else were as rude as humanly possible rioted outside his home and threw bricks in and even if there were people that were Still on his side they still never tried to stop all the hate and intrusion and contributed By asking A bunch of dumb questions too

[@gentle_orange_]

Well the point of No Way Home was to continue on what Far From Home gave a clip of. Which was the news revealing Spider-Mans identity, this was also including Mysterio's passing. This recording also contained jumbled up footage of Peter. This was because Mysterio wanted people to turn on Spider-Man, which would then make them turn on Peter as his identity was revealed. This would basically have Peter feeling alone, which is what some of the point of No Way Home was @@jajo3203

[@d0tbat]

W Video. Proud to see it drop.

[@Axe_Fax]

Appreciate the support!

[@Fortnite-Guy4152]

I like the MCU not my favourite one but you have a good point

[@Axe_Fax]

Thank you bro, I try my best XD

[@AverageArtEnjoyer]

AxeSpitsFax aint spitting facts rn

[@BxNcVsper777]

I always compare the trilogy of MCU spiderman to pro wrestling’s long term booking. After I watched no way home I understood what the MCU spiderman story. Before the third movie, he was spider boy, had everything handed to him didn’t really struggle but until the third movie, he had became spiderman . Toby and Andrew spiderman did it in one movie MCU did it in a stretch of 3 movies.

[@mechaocean170]

Suddenly everyone wants to act like they weren't riding Holland's Spidey back in 2016 even when a lot of us were saying he was never a great version of Spider-Man.

[@Iamyou752]

oh my god people are writing whole entire paragraphs every comment i feel bad for this guy

[@xannygetspills]

But I don't want more Tom Holland's Spider-man, lol

[@ChimeraLotietheBunny]

this is why I prefer the ealrier solo spidey films and of coruse OWNERSHIP use reasons why its slow in MCU , but adore such analysis!!

[@StarBrickAnimations]

A true fan would love all three spiderman equally not say which one is worse and be grateful that they exist.(grow up)

[@auden2.0]

Good

[@shemarregans]

tom is a good spiderman

[@johnosorno4554]

When I was half way through the vid I thought this guy spitting facts then I saw your name 😂,Great Video!

[@Groggle7141]

They always felt like generic MCU movies that make small references to Spider-Man, not Spider-Man movies. With the exception of No Way Home, nothing core to Spider-Man is included. It feels so bland.

[@kso86.]

nothing core ? have you seen homecoming or civil war ? his dedication to the community and forsaking being an avenger to continue helping out the little guy ? that IS spider-man. His jokes he makes to distract him from his fear of being in scary situations he doesn’t really understand like when he first encountered vulture ? Spider-man. His belief in not only the best of people but also putting aside his own pleasures to do the right thing ? SPIDER-MAN

[@shinobitoby]

I refreshing to find someone who finally gets why Tom Holland's Spiderman is not that great of a Spiderman

[@kso86.]

i believe you are wrong as he is a very faithful depiction of the character and his core traits with his own unique attributes that make this version of the character worthwhile

[@cxssetteman182]

I think people have the wrong idea of MCU Spidey. Instead of seeing him as a Character from a Superhero Film, they should rather see him as a character from a Disney Film, because that's exactly what this version of Spider-Man is! The Raimi Spider-Man was certainly for Mature audiences, with some hidden gems and teaching for kids to learn. The Romance is more nuanced, with many ups and downs. I think it's a more realistic representation of relationships and Love. Marc Webb's TASM was more angsty and geared towards Teenagers. That's why the romance is so passionate. This makes sense considering Marc Webb started out with Directing Music Videos for Pop-punk bands in the 2000s. MCU Spiderman is closer to a comic version of Ultimate Spider-Man. That's how I have always seen him. I understand it's hard for people not to compare the three. But at the end of the day, we should be happy there are 3 versions of Live Action Spider-Men.

[@petermj1098]

⁠​⁠Uncle Ben dying is not why Peter becomes Spider-Man. Uncle Ben dying because Peter let the criminal that eventually murdered him go is why he turned Spider-Man into a hero- instead of using his powers for money and fame. The problem with Aunt May’s death in the MCU is that she didn’t die because of Peter being selfish. Uncle Ben died because Peter was being selfish and didn’t take responsibility for his power to stop a criminal. Peter is driven by guilt to never let his selfishness get in the way to allow of others being harmed. The MCU is poor writing that Peter should be guilty for being selfless in trying to save his villian and it is his fault when Aunt May die for being selfless towards Green Goblin. Apparently Tobey and Andrew have to teach him revenge is bad. The thing is Peter himself learned his selfish revenge against the guy who conned him by letting the criminal go- got Uncle Ben killed. Peter didn’t need 2 other versions of himself to learn revenge his bad. He learned the consequences of his revenge all by himself in his first appearance.

[@blametheghost]

The only friendly neighborhood acts i can think of tom man did was just the brginning of homecoming, even then its not even a lot Also never really liked how mcu spiderman was handled until the ending of nwh, too.... Idk he just doesnt feel like Spiderman

[@bradrox3939]

rarely do i see anyone on youtube truly appreciate how spiderman inspires the community, this is a great vid! however i feel like the beginning was way too long and i wanted to skip to the part where you complain about tom holland

[@Axe_Fax]

Appreciate the feedback, always love to hear ways of improvement and am definitely taking that into account. More importantly tho I am very glad you were able to enjoy the video!

[@gld1013]

Real

[@bruhhhhmoment4848]

I liked him in civil war

[@TSiMan99]

He’s Still Young & Starting Off Early In His Career. He Still Needs & Has A lot Of Time. And The City In The Comics If I’m Right Starting Off Not Liking Him. They Didn’t Even Like Tobey & Andrew In Their First Movies. Give Him Time. Let Them Cook.

[@roodyg5352]

Still had a better showing than The Hulk lol

[@Mechablizz]

Yeah :(

[@lile6647]

Yeah it def doesn’t give that spider man feeling as amazing spider-man the original and spider man 2 do

[@IvoryPrince2k24]

I think the problem is the MCU is allergic to sincerity, which is the beating heart of Spider-Man. The MCU is so afraid of being corny but Peter Parker IS corny!

[@randomPATTA-ICICLE]

The mcu has been corny since 2019

[@kels2624]

mcu spiderman is for fan service and i enjoy it

[@StarBrickAnimations]

A true fan would love all three spiderman equally not say which one is worse and be grateful that they exist.(grow up)

[@kels2624]

@@StarBrickAnimations i agree i love everything Spiderman even the all video games not sure why mcu spiderman is a problem for most people

[@StarBrickAnimations]

@@kels2624 these are the same people that says they are sick of the same copy pasted spiderman story and they want something different and they got it but instead of liking they complain even more like I can't understand this marvel community anymore 💀

[@corazonenalmibar]

All argumeiin this video come crashing down since Homecoming, where he literally just helps people around the neighborhood thanks for adding to the overhating pile

[@mohamedaljassmy]

never cook again like never

[@TheDrugFreeThrasher]

He really can be a good Spider-Man. And I know they didn’t want to go the origin route with him, but it feels essential for any Spider-Man adaptation. We can’t feel much of an attachment for Tom because in my opinion, literally in his first standalone film, he leaves NYC. He’s never just doing classic Spider-Man stuff. He’s in Washington DC, He leaves the country in Far From Home, he fought Thanos alongside the Avengers. It’s not wrong for these events, it’s just nothing led up to it. He just starts as Spider-Man and that’s it. Tobey and Andrew were way more fleshed out and lived in. Even the mediocre SpiderMan 3 has many memorable and enjoyable moments because of what led up to it from the other films. I personally hope whatever they do with the next Holland movie just involves more of a clean slate for Spider-Man.

[@damarkisallen1013]

Ok you got a lot things wrong here ppl weren’t torn over spidys death because at this point he had only existed for a year and in comparison to others he hadn’t done anything crazy and the reason why he’s treated like any other hero is because in this universe he is other versions are the only superhero while in the mcu Spider-Man is pretty average and one last he’s still young this Spider-Man hasn’t been around super long and is probably gonna slow build of trust, this video comes off as another rami boy saying “this Spider-Man didn’t do the same thing tobey did this sucks”

[@Axe_Fax]

Well he had been Spider-Man for at least 2 and a half 3 years and even in Homecoming he legit prevented another 9/11 from happening. He has def spent a lot of time whereas Andrew Garfield's Spiderman for example had only been Spidey for around 2 and a half years in his movies and Miles has been Spidey for a year in his animated universe both of those for example have not had the problem MCU Spider-Man has had.

[@damarkisallen1013]

@@Axe_Fax I think you also forget Spider-Man isn’t always loved by ppl plus Spider-Man didn’t stop the boat iron man did in FFH in the ppl eyes he beat up a another hero and most didn’t about the universe effects of NWH

[@Axe_Fax]

I don't say he has to be loved by everyone, but consistently taking time in each of these movies to show the city's love for him and how overtime Spidey can make a difference is really important which the MCU does not. I never said Spider-Man stopped the boat completely that was never my point. My point is when a big hero comes in they completely hold all disregard for Spidey (if not for his doings those people could have been in worse trouble before Iron Man gets there)

[@civilbeast165]

Amen

[@barnabasgalantai4401]

Tom Holland is a lazy excuse for Spider-man

[@kso86.]

he is a great spider-man with the core traits of the character

[@gentle_orange_]

Here's what I'll say. In my personal opinion Tom Holland is NOT a bad Spider-Man. He may not be like the others but not every Spider-Man is supposed to be the same. As we saw with Tobey's Spider-Man he was loved by many and also hated by many. He had A LOT of great twists with his Spider-Man and overall I liked it. The one thing I preferably didn't like about Tobey's Spider-Man was in the 3rd movie. I understand they made Harry Osborn a Villain and it was amazing to see, but in the third movie they completely forgot about that, since towards the end they eventually had Harry help him. I understand Harry is his best friend but if he is turned to a villain I don't think he should be helping him. BEFORE PEOPLE COME AFTER ME I understand Harry did uncover that Peter was Spider-Man but I don't think they means he should save Peter when he became the "new" Green Goblin. The way they also portrayed Venom was a little off putting to me, don't get me wrong they got the origin completely right with Venom, but they could've done a little more with the character. Overall I loved Tobey's movies but the 3rd one was not the brightest in the bunch. Now onto Andrew. I will say Andrew is one of the BEST Spider-Man's I have seen on the big screen, the way they portrayed a darker version of the character is amazing to me. The stories in The Amazing Spider-Man movies are darker than what Spider-Man is normally portrayed as, but this difference makes Andrew my favorite Spider-Man personally. Even though the movies had bad ratings I personally loved them! I also feel like Andrew did a great job with comedy on the character as well, even with the darker theme with Spider-Man. Both Movies that Andrew had are a 10/10 as I enjoyed them quite a bit. Although I have seen most marvel fans call him the WORST Spider-Man but that just isn't true. And of course now onto to Tom. Overall I think Tom is a mix of a Light-hearted theme and a Dark theme version of Spider-Man. As we have seen he has very Light-hearted moments in his movies, and very good comedy. I think Marvel also handles the Dark theme around Tom's Spider-Man really well. In No Way Home we got to see the Dark Theme of Tom's Spider-Man more fluently than in Homecoming or Far From Home. Anyway in No Way Home we saw many Dark things such as Aunt May dying, and Peter (Tom) having a VERY emotional scene when this happened as well on thinking on how to get revenge on the Green Goblin, even willing to not cure the Green Goblin just to kill him. This is pretty dark but on the other hand VERY entertaining to see a Light-hearted Spider-Man also have some darkness to him. Overall I love Tom's movies but they do need improvement, with some of his character but again I love his movies. Overall These Are My Rankings For Each Spider-Man: 1. Andrew Garfield, I know A LOT of people hate his Spider-Man but I do not. I love his movies and the way he acts out Spider-Man with the very dark themes. Both movies that he has are just flawless in performance, comedy, action, etc.. 2. Tom Holland, I know I will get hate for this too, but I love his movies even though there are somethings that need to be fixed. He is overall a good Spider-Man. I love how Marvel mixed his Light-Hearted personality with darker themes. 3. Tobey Maguire, IK I'm Getting Hate for This one but overall I think Tobey's movies were great BUT the 3rd one wasn't as good as the other two which is why he is number 3. I also feel like some of his character development was a little weak and could've used some work. But overall he is a GREAT Spider-Man.

[@MannyBricks]

Yeah I didn’t really enjoyed Tom Holland’s Spider-Man character since Homecoming until of very day for years now. Well Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man will always be my favorite Spider-Man character at all times, Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man character is okay but the 1st one is boring until he’s stopped the Lizard right in the middle and the ending scenes & the 2nd one I didn’t like it because Gwen Stacy gets killed off & Green Goblin looks horrible

[@jasonblack2477]

I liked toms version lol

[@DonasGames]

@@robertrodriguez1287 does that have something to see?

[@robertrodriguez1287]

@@DonasGames yes press I can't stand fans who like no way home and Tom Holland Spider-Man

[@DonasGames]

@@robertrodriguez1287 reasons?

[@tvhead5010]

So MCU Spider-Man is a character assassination of Spider-Man. He's so irresponsible. It hurts so idiotic it makes me think. Did he actually make his web shooters? Everything about this character is not how he should be for God's sakes and this is the MCU universe or Uncle Ben. Never existed or Uncle Ben was just not in Peter's life and you can tell because he's learning stuff he should have already learned. So instead of aging him up and making him into a Spider-Man it's already done this stuff. They brought him back to status quo without actually establishing the status quo They also took stuff from Miles Morales because they weren't confident enough that he could be a good enough character. So this Peter Parker is an amalgamation of Peter Parker in Miles Morales and he's missing everything that made both of them special MCU Spider-Man is not memorable, not iconic. Not interesting and his legacy is honestly ruining the character. Not making them better. I want everyone to think about it. Toby has some of the best movies in the franchise and taught everyone with great power and great responsibility. Really meant Andrew Garfield taught everyone that they matter and that when you fall you have to get back up. Tom Holland taught everyone that you can have everything continuously listens to someone who was clearly not the best person to listen to cough. Cough. Tony Stark don't even get me started sidelined in your own movies. Don't listen to the adults trying to tell you what to do for them the list goes on. There's nothing about Tom Holland Spider-Man that is memorable. This is a fact

[@coolr850]

Yeah but in nwh's ending felt refreshing since he went so much sadder since he lost everyone and prob in spderman 4 we will see him go through alot more pain / grief .

[@kso86.]

this is such an outdated and flawed actually nah just incorrect take

[@Tom-jg9de]

Ok i think If they change 1 think 1 dam think...Don't make him Irion man 2 Olny gave Him the suit or he make his own suit Tony is olny To help Peter to be beder as Spider man