Small Two Stage Dust Collection System (Rockler Dust Right & Dust Deputy Cyclone)

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The Art Of Lutherie - Guitar Making

The Art Of Lutherie - Guitar Making

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@charlesgarito1155
@charlesgarito1155 4 жыл бұрын
Two of my newest interests, guitars and woodworking. I”ve watched many videos on both subjects since retiring and yours on dust collection for a small shop was what I have been looking for. Too many videos focus on craftsman who earn a living or are looking to profit from the videos. As a hobbiest I enjoy every minute in the shop with no pressures about earning money from it. Thanks for this well made video.
@crazycdn8327
@crazycdn8327 Жыл бұрын
Just want to say, new science shows the most dangerous particles to woodworkers is 0.3-5 micron, though 5-10 are equally as bad but most even cheap systems take care of them. But the truly dangerous stuff is under 2 microns. I know this is a 3 yr old video now, but you can upgrade your filter, it will be taller/longer but they're not that much more expensive to go down to that 0.2 or 0.3 micron size. Great video, thanks!
@wakelywanderer12
@wakelywanderer12 4 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video. I put together this system today. The instructions for the canister filter were useless, I just used your information. Thanks.
@Grampiswoodshop
@Grampiswoodshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm about to move to florida and set up my retirement shop. This really helps.
@northerndarklight5305
@northerndarklight5305 4 жыл бұрын
Good job. I had EXACTLY the same system, which was a bit underpowered for my mid-sized wood shop. Some of the machines were just too far away. I recently upgraded to the 1250 CFM model, with the larger 1 micron filter. I kept the existing Dust Deputy Deluxe, and Dust Right hoses and fittings. It works so well, I'm flabbergasted, and that's rare. It's a very good system, but for safety's sake, I also have a Jet dual filter air filtration system to give the air another scrubbing. It cycles the air in my shop about 15 times per hour. Better safe than sorry.
@jeffreysears3517
@jeffreysears3517 Жыл бұрын
for your opinion, it what scenario would one need a 1250 vs a 650?
@UTBanjo
@UTBanjo Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreysears3517 IMHO, if you are using a lathe or power jointer you automatically need the 1250(or an even larger system). Also, if most of your machines are more than 10 feet(3 meters) from your collector.
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie Жыл бұрын
Thanks James, I totally agree. That bigger version wasn't available yet when I made the video, otherwise I would have mention it as well.
@YummyPork
@YummyPork 6 ай бұрын
Stopped in at Rockler yesterday and started getting the parts of this same build for my basement shop. Thanks for the great video. One tip I learned there was for the plastic bag. Since they are reusable, glue a small magnet (like a flexible fridge magnet) along the top edge to hold the bag in place while you position it over the canister.
@marcnaidu5804
@marcnaidu5804 4 жыл бұрын
Useful video. Nice and clear voice . No cheesy music. Quick note ... horsepower does not equate with suction power. It’s motor power. Lower horsepower machines can have better suction. Better measure of suction is CPM
@Painfulwhale360
@Painfulwhale360 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to buy this model tonight because I just got done putting together my CNC machine a day or two ago (X-carve) and need dust collection. This 650cfm model is out of stock on Rocklers website but their 1250cfm model is in stock but twice the price of this. But one other thing is that it has a wireless remote on and off so that’s really handy for my use. Oh well, I appreciate your video!
@jewdd1989
@jewdd1989 Жыл бұрын
Now I regret buying my wall hung shop vac lol. This was very helpful though, I think it’s an important discussion and your demonstration is clear and makes a lot more sense than the obnoxious pipe systems many end up using which is great for some but just not practical for ppl like myself who aren’t full time or even selling work yet
@colingiersberg5947
@colingiersberg5947 9 ай бұрын
Very good video and your explanation about the system were very good too. Thanks.
@brianwhittaker2378
@brianwhittaker2378 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks. I spent the day in my new shop recently and my lungs were in rough shape for about 36 hrs after that. I thought I was doing a reasonable job with dust collection....wrong. This is going to help me a lot.
@oxylepy2
@oxylepy2 3 жыл бұрын
I like how your take away from that study was to be shaken to your core. My first time realizing how dangerous airborn particles were fpr respiratory health made me feel like an idiot for not realizing that immediately
@davidmalin1884
@davidmalin1884 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom. Thanks for a very thorough presentation. I bought the same system this spring and now installing it. Your anecdotal comments made along the way will be very helpful. Can’t wait to have it up and running in a few days.
@ronnorris1504
@ronnorris1504 2 жыл бұрын
Great detail on dust collection from Rockler. That looks like it'll work great in my small shop as well.
@OnePotMeals
@OnePotMeals 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job. I am just about where you were, so I really have to up my dust collection game. Thank you
@tinkeringeekkissimmeefl4495
@tinkeringeekkissimmeefl4495 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. It is very helpful to set up a dust collection in a small garage.
@daveyJ213
@daveyJ213 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, my man! Just finished a small 9' miter saw work bench/cabinet and I need some sort of dust collection system for the miter saw, as it creates more saw dust than just about any other tool in the shop. I think I'll mount this on the wall near the miter saw. Thanks for posting. Enjoyed your delivery; honest and to the point; much appreciated.
@joedance14
@joedance14 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video and article. Did not see the link to the referenced study, which I would like to read. One point: in the video and article photo, the clear hose makes a tight 180 degree bend to go behind the canister filter and down to the cyclone. Tight bends like that cost performance. Thanks again!
@TSPhotoAtlanta
@TSPhotoAtlanta 3 жыл бұрын
Did he do that to make a better visual frame? I wondered about that.
@jackhealy8467
@jackhealy8467 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the link. It's imbedded the article, printed in green italics.
@kenanklovitch8117
@kenanklovitch8117 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Sir, you've sold me on this system. Thanks very much my friend!
@homtherobot
@homtherobot Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you! Would love to hear more about how you decided between the 650 CFM vs the 1250 CFM model!
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much @homskillet! The choice was very easy because the 1200 model didn't exist back then :) The 650 was plenty for what I do though.
@joshuatharpe9397
@joshuatharpe9397 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have been on the fence about investing in dust collection but you sold me. Thanks!
@beardedgarage
@beardedgarage 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Short, sweet, to the point and a full system. Thanks!
@acesdeuce6945
@acesdeuce6945 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Wonderful assessment and hopefully the companies gave the items for free for promoting them...
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you found it helpful!
@bobnicholas5994
@bobnicholas5994 4 жыл бұрын
Short story: I'm a Respiratory Care Practitioner and avid woodworker. Woke up one morning terrible chest pain. I intermittently wear mask. Doesnt go away wife forces me to go to ER. Not heart...go home. Woodworking mentor says he did exact same thing in past. He thinks he sucked in some wood dusk that really irritated his lungs.. I analyzed it and that was probably what it was. The ER bill was more then the top of the line dust collector etc...
@ArthurCheesebag84
@ArthurCheesebag84 4 жыл бұрын
Bob Nicholas this comment motivates me to do something about my dust.
@daxd8358
@daxd8358 4 жыл бұрын
Sad to hear and was I eye opener just last night viewed a 3 year old video about health issues and wood dust , be well my making needed changes .
@jonruehle9186
@jonruehle9186 4 жыл бұрын
Same for losing a finger or two on the table saw. The SawStop brand saw I want is $4,000 which is a SMALL FRACTION of the cost of hand repair, if it can even be repaired, or lost of one or more finders, God forbid you lose a thumb.
@johnoquinn6740
@johnoquinn6740 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’m looking to set up something similar in my new shop. Thanks again! 🤗
@manny3549
@manny3549 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Great ability to combine facts, products and expertise for the benefit of your viewers. Excellent work! Keep it up!!! Many thanks for your efforts!
@craigc7493
@craigc7493 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thanks for making it!
@craigmonteforte1478
@craigmonteforte1478 4 жыл бұрын
Good Video ! Looks like Rockler did their homework on this system which is what i was hoping for from them kind of makes it warrant not pricing one together from other parts As a Retired Woodworker and between homes/ Shops I’m just looking at what my options are for the future shop and ive always had good luck with Rockler in the past
@janodjano5828
@janodjano5828 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda liking your vibe, I buy guitars just to look at because I can’t play at all. Trying to get a Mule , Still. Enjoy stay healthy in the new year 👍🏼🔔
@thorlo1278
@thorlo1278 4 жыл бұрын
The following information is not scientific or about any one person, it is just my experience as an RN working with ventilated patients. By the time I was forced to retire from Nursing in 2011 I had had 24 years experience, with about 10 years in critical care. There are any number of diseases that cause people to end up requiring to be placed on a ventilator. Naturally, the majority of these diseases are respiratory in nature: smoking various forms of tobacco, working in plants that put out hazardous chemicals, working in mines, working in unventilated woodworking shops, working around woodworking materials without proper face masks, etc. Although I am an RN, I developed asthma and Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease due to chronic bronchitis. I have witnessed so many patients on ventilators, due to various diseases, and then see them just struggling to breath on the machine. Sometimes, in spite of the machine trying to breath for them, their bodies gave out and the patients died. So many of us in the woodworking industry work with little to no machine filtration, and/or shop air filtration, and we can and will develop lung diseases. At the very least, you owe it to your family and yourself to at least wear some type of face mask to protect your lungs from the harmful destruction of saw dust!
@paulmckeough1783
@paulmckeough1783 4 жыл бұрын
Hey there, just want to echo this sentiment. I am also an RN working in a critical care setting with lot of respiratory patients. I’ve also seen a fair amount of COPD patients, not so much from woodworking, more from smoking and a little from industrial work. Doesn’t matter what causes any form of the respiratory conditions, it isn’t pleasant to observe someone struggling to breath and going the the anxiety that causes. I imagine it’s similar to breathing through a standard straw. I started woodworking as my hobby about 2 yrs ago, one of the first things I bought was a silicone Mask with N95 filters. While I use it all the time, I have found the fine dust particles build up everywhere and where you would least expect it. It matters when you are not wearing your mask and you go to move something while not really doing your craft and there is a small amount of dust that gets kicked up, this now makes its way into your lungs. I’ve found myself with some minor lung irritation. My current dust collection is just a small shop vac, and have been researching a more powerful and efficient system. I also plan to get an air filter, WEN makes one for about $120 on Amazon, I figure no amount of money is too much to protect your lungs and prevent the struggle I’ve witnessed. Thank you for this awesome review. I just subscribed to your channel, even though I’m not really interested in building guitars (I might be later, lol) but you have a great bedside manner! Thanks for being clear, thorough and welcoming in your presentation. Looking forward to discovering your content
@hankfrazier7151
@hankfrazier7151 3 жыл бұрын
Best quality and simple dust collector I've seen yet. Looks like Rockler put some quality material in what they make instead of cheap plastic material that breaks or wears out quickly. I probably will go with Rockler. Thanks.
@daveodden6042
@daveodden6042 2 жыл бұрын
i dig that system. thanks for the great video.
@mikeandlucky
@mikeandlucky 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very well produced and helpful video. I have been very concerned about dust collection in my small shop as well and this would be an excellent solution.
@CMRWoodworks
@CMRWoodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Great review video. I will plan on getting this system for my shop. Thanks Tom!
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
@jamesfriesen9633
@jamesfriesen9633 Жыл бұрын
One suggestion: If you could somehow set up the on/off switches so that when you turn on a tool, like your sander for instance, it automatically turns the dust collector system on, then you wouldn't have to turn on the dust collector separately.
@TheWrate
@TheWrate 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I have a small shop and am looking to set up a wall mounted dust collection system that uses a very similar fan unit. Well done!
@BernRuelas
@BernRuelas 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! and just what I've been researching. I'm going to install this same system in my garage!
@J_Madison
@J_Madison 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever install this? How do ya like it?
@NoName-qk9fw
@NoName-qk9fw 4 күн бұрын
Your tutorial helped me correctly assemble my 650 CFM Dust Right system and hang it on the wall. I ordered two 10 foot lengths of Rocklers clear 4 inch dust hose. I was able to attach one end to the Rockler blast gates I ordered, but that was a struggle. I purchased other hose fittings I needed to finish the assembly but I cannot attach them to the hose, period. One of these fittings was a coupler with the left hand threads which I assumed would be easy to attach to the hose but it would not work. The hose does not work with the fittings on 4/5 Dust Deputy either. Do you have any ideas?
@metatechnologist
@metatechnologist 3 жыл бұрын
Came for the dust collector, stayed for the Luthier course.
@jasonbarile2014
@jasonbarile2014 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. How do you like it a year later?
@jake8074
@jake8074 2 жыл бұрын
Old fart that doesn`t care for technology... that being said, how in the hell was life possible before KZbin? Thanks brother, my very best to you and yours... this was a big help!!!!
@danotex213
@danotex213 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! SUPER helpful! But noticed that the rockler site says the bag goes to 30 microns - not 3 microns.
@aprendamosconreneamaya725
@aprendamosconreneamaya725 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jm3227
@jm3227 4 жыл бұрын
total cost for what was shown is roughly $897.97 (as of may 2020). Depending on the number of adapters you get and length of hose that $ figure increases.
@joeygonzo
@joeygonzo 4 жыл бұрын
way too much . just get the real one
@funfreq9282
@funfreq9282 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! Onida and Rockler are pretty proud of their stuff! Way to much for what it is. The cyclone is nothing more than molded plastic so the profit margin must be huge on that piece. The blower motor, Harbor Freight makes one that looks pretty close to it for under $160 and the bucket, what is that cardboard and tin? The profit margins that are built in these parts are astronomical. The only thing that is the limiting factor is the size of his shop! Otherwise a free standing unit from Grizzly or similar would have been a better bang for the buck!
@TSPhotoAtlanta
@TSPhotoAtlanta 3 жыл бұрын
@@funfreq9282 I found food grade 25 gallon HDPE containers for sale used but clean near Atlanta, probably near most major cities in the US. Building the cyclone is the next step....
@funfreq9282
@funfreq9282 3 жыл бұрын
@@TSPhotoAtlanta What material do you plan on using for the cyclone?
@shaynesabala
@shaynesabala Жыл бұрын
I’m a new subscriber and the bell is hit. I want to thank you for putting out such a great video full of details. I’m working in half my garage right now with a home made cyclone and a big fan behind me blowing everything out. I think I might be the king of winging it. Lol. I’m not sold on this system but it gives me good direction. I would like to know if after a month or so of use, are you finding find dust? My guess is no because you upgraded to the good filter. From what I’ve seen, that a must. Again, thanks for a great video.
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome, glad the video was helpful! :)
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 4 жыл бұрын
The story you stated about respiratory problems is extremely common in just about any work field with dust. Most of the problem is most guys just do not take preventive precautions. There is a reason the OSHA insists on lung protection, it is for your safety. When you were talking about losing suction because of long piping is because you did not use long radius pipes in the system and even smaller size pipe. When you calculate C F M correctly you will not have any problem. Today everybody is a jack of all trades Master of none. I believe the last sentence say it all. Please do not think that I am drowning you in any way cause I am NOT. Also, the vortex that you are showing has been around for I would bet you a hundred years. Just look any old factory dealing with dust and you will see vortex many feet tall. That being said you made my day showing the average guy what and how to maybe save his life for the benefit of his family. No one want a fatherless family. Your last statement about the did not notice any difference with performance is flawed because you are not pushing the dust collector to the limit. Just use the prefilter for less work overall. Nice job fella. Keep on making them guitars as people just seem to want more and more of those instruments.
@Dev-lc4cd
@Dev-lc4cd 4 жыл бұрын
Its ok to save your own life for your own benefit, that would be smart too.
@m60mgman
@m60mgman 4 жыл бұрын
I like the Rockler 650cfm system, but it’s very loud, about 85dB. They have a new mobile system that’s 750cfm, and much quieter (about 75dB) at about the same price now. Noise mitigation is also important. I made a small mobile system for my shop vac, using the smaller Dust Deputy. It works great!
@richardt2905
@richardt2905 3 жыл бұрын
Great job! Been looking to upgrade and I'm going to do this exact thing!
@Snausages32
@Snausages32 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@TwoCaptainsOneShip
@TwoCaptainsOneShip 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, considering this or the 1250...I don't want to go too small and regret it..
@scottdicker7051
@scottdicker7051 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@meedlies
@meedlies 3 жыл бұрын
This is great! Thank you.
@BatandBallCricket
@BatandBallCricket 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the in depth process you followed. Looks like your workshop is about the same as mine. I won't have the room you do to get to the dust ports of my tools and I'm time poor so feel I'm unlikely to move them for a quick job. So I'm thinking about setting up ducting with blast gates. Do you think this Dust Right system could handle an 18 feet run? I'd been thinking I'd need something with more power, but your comment about efficiency has me thinking this could do the job. Appreciate your thoughts having used the system over the last year or so.
@kirillrebkovets4958
@kirillrebkovets4958 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I found it very helpful for what I'm doing!
@oleboy4332
@oleboy4332 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stephenrees438
@stephenrees438 4 жыл бұрын
Bob, nice video and thanks for sharing your experiences with the installation process. A couple of question please. IYO what is the minimal amount of space or foot print needed to replicate your set up in a corner of my 3 car garage that houses my shop? Secondly, what would be your concerns of installing this set up in a shared corner with an ELECTRIC water heater? Thanks in advance for your input.
@JD196865
@JD196865 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom! I bought the same unit a few years ago but going to upgrade to the filter and cyclone like you have. Two years on how do you like the setup?
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 2 жыл бұрын
That setup is just amazing in performance and value for sure, and it was not very loud, which is important in my small machine room. I eventually upgraded to the Oneida Supercell, which is even more compact and powerful but much more expensive.
@ivanaguilar8820
@ivanaguilar8820 4 жыл бұрын
nice vid!! I'm sold on this! do you have an air filtration system in your shop? or just collection? I agree with you as a woodworker and keeping a safe, healthy environment to work in. Is this filter good enough for filtration? nice videos great communicator!
@Rebel9668
@Rebel9668 5 ай бұрын
I just wear a 3M respirator and sweep up my dust when I'm finished, or use my shop vac. If I install one of those big dust collectors, instead of mounting that bag to it, I'll just run an exhaust pipe through my garage wall and let the dust fly out the back of the garage. I live in a rural area and the worst that can happen is I wind up with a big pile of sawdust behind the garage which I can use for stuff like filling in holes in the yard from moles, etc.
@jberman-code
@jberman-code 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, very detailed. I am also looking for a dust filter and that air filter caniser seems what I might be looking for, is it reusable or when time comes to replace it I have to buy the entire canister air filter or any insert available, which will be fraction of replacing the entire filter.
@georgeboyle3967
@georgeboyle3967 3 жыл бұрын
Do you operate a table saw, a jointer and a router using your new DC system? I’m interested in the performance. Thank you.
@derrickthesen7008
@derrickthesen7008 4 жыл бұрын
That is exactly how I time to put a dust system in my shop also the unit I've been leaning towards questions voltage on the motor is it 120 or 240 volts Does it come with the switch or is that an extra to add on does the switch have a relay so you can move the switch at the equipment? Or also is there a remote option for the switch? Thank you in advance
@TSPhotoAtlanta
@TSPhotoAtlanta 3 жыл бұрын
I read that this unit is 120VAC only, but similar ones are 120/240. Good question about the switch, I don't know, but I like the idea of a LV relay circuit. Comments on the vendor's page say you only get whst you see....
@sufinawaz
@sufinawaz 4 жыл бұрын
Hi - how much was your overall cost for this?
@marek117w
@marek117w 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice video.Thank you
@50guitar
@50guitar Жыл бұрын
Imagining a vertical line down to the floor from the wall mounted unit, how big of a footprint does your system take up?
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie Жыл бұрын
I have since upgraded to this dust collector: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qambmKunl5J7p8ksi=7SBeXS8dqJAC2sPa so I don't have it to measure anymore. From memory I'd say it was a little over 6' tall and no bigger than 2'X2" footprint. Hope that helps!
@scottsell4182
@scottsell4182 10 ай бұрын
I bought the larger dust right canister 2y ago and it’s now blowing fine dust through the filter. Called and the rep mentioned cleaning with an air compressor. Fine dust is now even worse. Wondering if you are still satisfied with your setup?
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 9 ай бұрын
It was a great system, and I never had any issues with it. I eventually switched to this system kzbin.info/www/bejne/qambmKunl5J7p8k which is amazing.
@mdaley3102
@mdaley3102 Жыл бұрын
I just saw your video and have been pondering this system or it cousin on wheels. I’ve seen several reviews and I’m still undecided if the cost is really worth it. I wear a mask when woodworking and do a lot of turning on a lathe where I know these don’t work well. Is it kind of a pain to move from one machine to another? In all honesty, on a scale from 1 to 10, how satisfied are you with your purchase.
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie Жыл бұрын
I loved that system and had no complaints whatsoever. There is a more powerful version now though which you might want to consider.
@AngieWilliamsDesigns
@AngieWilliamsDesigns 2 жыл бұрын
So... that gasket you used... I'm assuming that it wasn't the one that came with it? I ordered this unit. Trying to get it installed. I came to watch the video again (watched before I ordered) to see if I was doing something wrong. The gasket is really thick. And The lid won't compress down far enough to clamp the ring. UGH!!!
@harleywood9588
@harleywood9588 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, thorough. I’m in the process of installing the very same system. Your review will be helpful. Having a small workspace do you have an air filtration system?
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Harley, Glad it was helpful! I don't have an air filter yet, looked at a few but they are pretty pricey and I have a feeling they wont last very long in here...
@TomBuskey
@TomBuskey 4 жыл бұрын
Box fan(s) + high end 4" thick furnace fan. I have one across the lathe and another one near my bandsaw. Don't wait for the expensive one. I'm not sure they're better.
@albreit69
@albreit69 4 жыл бұрын
@@TomBuskey would love to see your setup with the box fans!!!!!
@JoeHarper1
@JoeHarper1 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Buskey i do the same. Air filters and box fans.
@kevinketterer-s2o
@kevinketterer-s2o 11 ай бұрын
Which is a better dust collector for the money? Oneida or the rockler? It looks like the rockler dust collector you installed was probably less than half of the cost of the Oneida?
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 9 ай бұрын
They are both great. Rockler even makes a more powerful version now, too. The Supercell is just scary powerful. I mean, for real. I have to be careful when I use it for vacuuming up the shop. It's been rock solid, easy to empty, easy to clean, and no issues at all. If you need a serious industrial-grade powerhouse, then the Supercell is better, but the Rocker will work for most people, is a great way to get started with a nice dust collector, and does cost way less.
@steven.woodward
@steven.woodward 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the motivational pitch on dust collection. I notice you used a clear hose and a blue colour hose. Any reason for that ? Could you provide a link to the hoses that you used.
@Taylexwow
@Taylexwow 4 жыл бұрын
If he used a Rockler hose its just blue, its a branding thing for them
@frankamarillas1252
@frankamarillas1252 3 жыл бұрын
Can you use this system without stage 1 and still pick up dust and particles?
@donforex
@donforex 3 жыл бұрын
Rockler states the original bag is 30-micron with a 5-micron bag available for purchase
@charlescheesman1318
@charlescheesman1318 4 жыл бұрын
What study were you looking at?
@Painfulwhale360
@Painfulwhale360 4 жыл бұрын
what a great video. Thanks for this. I think I might pick this up for my shop!
@rishibajaj6770
@rishibajaj6770 4 жыл бұрын
Great video been looking for this for a while. is there a reason you went with the 650 CFM and not the 1250 CFM? I believe rockler has both models that are wall-mountable.
@berniespoerri4688
@berniespoerri4688 3 жыл бұрын
Yes...I was wondering the same thing.
@justinbrown6095
@justinbrown6095 7 ай бұрын
Rockler’s catalog has the filter bag for this unit listed at 30 microns. Not 3. If that’s true I definitely wouldn’t ever use the filter bag as it’s just pumping the most harmful particles into the air. Go for the canister filter.
@charliechoiniere8755
@charliechoiniere8755 4 жыл бұрын
How much clearance is there behind the canister and the wall? I have a cement have wall and wondering if it would clear it or not or if I would need to build a box for it to sit on in order to clear it. Thanks!
@patrickjohnson3765
@patrickjohnson3765 4 жыл бұрын
howdy, can you close off the bottom? do you really need the plastic bag with 2 stages? I have limited vertical space so i figure if I don't need the bag I could just make a cover for the bottom.
@izzychen7537
@izzychen7537 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I was looking to purchase the Dust Right 650 CFM for my small workshop as well. One question though- If you have a cyclone as the first stage, do you really need to purchase the filter as well or just connect the bag to the dust collector?
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Israel, So glad the review was helpful! You definitely don't have to use the filter. I did, mainly because the tiny amount of dust that makes it past the cyclone is comprised mostly of very fine particles which happen to be the most dangerous. So if you can, it's nice to have the filter that captures those finer particles. In case it's helpful, I think I talked in more detail about this stuff in my article here: theartoflutherie.com/dust-collection/
@MrPavaroti
@MrPavaroti 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you install the vortex devise?
@jonruehle9186
@jonruehle9186 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that I was watching Patrick Dempsey in his home shop. :-)
@rspencerttc
@rspencerttc 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t place the name, but I knew the face!
@justinwnichols03
@justinwnichols03 9 ай бұрын
What does "relatively inexpensive" cost?
@mwreyf1
@mwreyf1 8 ай бұрын
Since this video is 4 years old, I bet it is a lot more expensive now.
@indyvin
@indyvin Жыл бұрын
A very clean and attractive looking system. Compared to some of the train wrecks out there, this stands out. I have got to try to something at least up to this standard. Thanks for sharing.
@archtopguitar1638
@archtopguitar1638 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom for this video... You used two types of hose ... one with plastic ribbing and the blue hose with metal wire ribbing. You will need to replace the plastic ribbed hose with the blue hose. After that is done, you must strip off the hose insulation down to the bare wire where you cut the hose ends to length. Then you need to take some bare copper wire which you can get in a kit from Lee Valley tools ... www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/workshop/dust-collection/parts-and-accessories/62616-grounding-kit-for-dust-collection-systems ... and connect the bare wire end to the metal base of your machine with this wire on the one end and a length of the same copper wire connected from the dust collector frame to the other bare wire end of the hose. WHY? If you don't, static electricity can occur as the cyclone spins and as the chips travel inside the hose rubbing against the those surfaces and the resulting friction can cause sparks which have been known to ignite fire inside the dust collector. I used these banana connectors for speaker cables to make connecting easy for your method... www.amazon.ca/Ltvystore-Speaker-Solderless-Connector-SocketTerminal,Pack/dp/B07M83P2PM/ref=pd_sbs_23_7?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07M83P2PM&pd_rd_r=06f5de95-a1b2-47af-8ffd-7017073aaf9a&pd_rd_w=H4Hhl&pd_rd_wg=CSmH6&pf_rd_p=c7838c3c-6de6-46ad-946c-b7318af714fb&pf_rd_r=EHT7Z9HBX7CK1DNXRB27&psc=1&refRID=EHT7Z9HBX7CK1DNXRB27 Where ever there is friction....there is static electricity....where ever there is raw electricity there are sparks so please retro your duct collection system so that static electricity is GROUNDED.... Art of Lutherie member.... Best regards, Andry
@TSPhotoAtlanta
@TSPhotoAtlanta 3 жыл бұрын
You could use bare copper or bare aluminum wire from any source. Use screws to ground it, attach with epoxy mixed with conductive metal dust, use wire-nuts. The costs are already soaring.
@Once-ler1972
@Once-ler1972 2 жыл бұрын
“Try not to bend the hose too tightly in any direction” seconds later the hose is in a U-turn going into the inlet😂
@jimp6576
@jimp6576 3 жыл бұрын
I have been sanding wood floors since 1987. The first 5 years no dust mask.no mask for finish application. Yeah really stupid , but I didn't know. Oh and a smoker for 40 plus years. Lungs are good, thank God. But now dust really bothers me. I'm looking for a dust collection system for my workshop.
@paulbylin3076
@paulbylin3076 4 жыл бұрын
Is this the new 1250 com dust collector from Rockler?
@Mark-ol2ll
@Mark-ol2ll 4 жыл бұрын
What would a set like this cost?
@rodkempf9407
@rodkempf9407 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the cyclone and the drum for it, great video. Thanks for all the info.
@1averageamerican
@1averageamerican 4 жыл бұрын
This is a Rockler system.
@Taylexwow
@Taylexwow 4 жыл бұрын
@@1averageamerican No, the cyclone and drum are Oneida only the collector and filter are Rockler
@samsngdevice5103
@samsngdevice5103 4 жыл бұрын
What did it cost?
@billystray7007
@billystray7007 4 жыл бұрын
im considering this set up as a 1 machine (bandsaw) type thing anyone ever done this ?
@tristanluc7008
@tristanluc7008 4 жыл бұрын
the way you set up is without the cyclone?
@MichaelLindholm
@MichaelLindholm 4 жыл бұрын
And then at the end of the video, he added the cyclone he'd talked about earlier.
@Xiomaro01
@Xiomaro01 9 ай бұрын
25 years in the game now without all this. Oh well. Not much to hang on to anyway
@richpeiffer6274
@richpeiffer6274 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review! Looking at a similar setup. Have you tried with a thickness planer yet? I am wondering if the small setup still has enough power to effectively work with a small benchtop thickness planer.
@MarkJonesRanger
@MarkJonesRanger 4 жыл бұрын
Planner will fill up your 15 gallon bucket pretty quickly. I pull my planner out in the driveway and let it plane away. I use a scoop shovel and put it in the dumpster. Now if you doing one board or two every two weeks it will work fine. If your doing a pallet of rough sawn boards do it outside.
@georgeburchett5798
@georgeburchett5798 2 жыл бұрын
This is good information. However wouldn't it be nice if all sanders and other wood working equipment had that large of a connection point for dust collection! This is a huge problem when trying to install a system like this. Nothing is standardized on my equip. That not only makes connecting all of the equipment up very difficult, but changes and reduces the power at each connection point. Evert reducer and elbow really reduces air flow! Findings all of the connectors is a big problem and the end results are difficult to predict. If only there was some standardization to the connection size on wood working equipment! there should be a law that requires some standards for this!
@kevinmckercher
@kevinmckercher Жыл бұрын
you need a downdraft table.
@0Myles0
@0Myles0 3 жыл бұрын
Gets me thinking. The most famous carpenter of all time died at about 35 years.
@incognitotorpedo42
@incognitotorpedo42 3 жыл бұрын
He only used hand tools. I don't think it was the dust that got him.
@johnoquinn6740
@johnoquinn6740 2 жыл бұрын
And…He knew He would die young, and did it anyway. Willingly. ❤️
@TheDejfson
@TheDejfson 4 жыл бұрын
where to buy it in europe?
@TSPhotoAtlanta
@TSPhotoAtlanta 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever find out?
@samsngdevice5103
@samsngdevice5103 4 жыл бұрын
I think its a lot more than 1% brother. Could be as high as 13%.
@regibson23
@regibson23 2 жыл бұрын
If you're worried about the health hazards of dust you should really have a HEPA filter. The one you have only filters down to 1 micron. The real nasty stuff is between 0.3 and 1 micron. And that's not a 3 micron bag. It's a 30 micron bag. Edit: man another thing. That dust collector is 3/4 hp. Not 3hp. No idea where you're getting your specs from but they're all wrong.
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