Is YoloBox the Perfect Solution for Mobile Multicam Live Streaming?

[@tombuck]

Two Updates: •My review for the upgraded YoloBox Pro is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5KTpGdjn5yBadU •Turns out that video quality when using Canon cameras can be improved by using an HDMI emulator like this: geni.us/QFwgym

[@frankfengzhu]

Hi Tom! Thanks for the video! A very unique angle that definitely adds perspective for any potential YoloBox customer! For the video quality, I think it might be somehow Cannon reason(as they are not traditionally strong on video processing technology.). When we found other customers streaming the mainstream video cameras like Sony and Panasonic, it'll look much better! You are welcomed to test with Sony or Panasonic. We are considering a redesign of the streaming logic(users don't need to login and creat a live stream to be able to see cameras and livestream), or we might simply add a monitoring mode. Hopefully the update will be released in a few more updates. Then you can definitely only use YoloBox as bright screen! As YoloBox is evolving fast!! A great way for YoloBox to be on your workflow is to output ATEM Mini Pro's HDMI out to YoloBox Input, thus it can replace your computer and Ecamm subscription in lots of use cases!(Ecamm takes a leraning curve and has cost!) It makes a very powerful combo! Check out Aaron's live test kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6Kze6eniNCtq5Y (his sound is a bit distorted as he uses a compressor!) Thanks again for the video!

[@frankfengzhu]

This is Frank ZHU from YoloLiv..>_

[@tombuck]

Thanks Frank! I’m excited to see where you guys take things, and I’d LOVE a direct monitor mode. Aaron is a genius and definitely knows how to get the best quality from his equipment. 👍

[@frankfengzhu]

@@tombuck Yes direct monitor mode is gonna be a matter of time! Just curious what do you think about the quality of below live test also by Aaron(he didn't use a switcher that time) is it the same as yours or better? what do you see? kzbin.info/www/bejne/npXXg4Z7jMeSm5I&ab_channel=AaronParecki

[@kilroyfilms7590]

@@frankfengzhu I also have the Canon EOS R and the quality of the stream with the Yolobox is awful. I did 10 hours of streaming a sporting event today, 3 separate streams, 2 with the Yolobox and 1 without, the one without is amazing, so hard to understand how Canon video processing can be blamed in a 2k camera that streams fine with great quality any way, but through the Yolobox? I really, really love the functionality of the Yolobox, but buying a whole new camera system to make it viewable is not viable for me at this time. Please, please make it work with Canon. I even plugged in a cheap USB webcam and that looked amazing compared to the HDMI with my EOSR :-( I am getting paid to stream and Yolobox could take things to the next level......please help.

[@frankfengzhu]

@@kilroyfilms7590 Might be HDCP limitation issues. I'll let team continuously check.

[@learnabouteyes]

Attention: it does NOT work with the camlink 4k! it can only handle HD capture cards, not 4k!!!

[@GQLewis]

The device probably only recognizes Fat32 formatted SD cards. SDHC tops out at 32gb, and are usually Fat32, but SDXC cards have much higher capacities and are formatted as ExFAT.

[@frankfengzhu]

Yes exFAT will also be supported in a future version.

[@timbuckeridge]

2 uploads a day after each other, lets go!

[@GeekyNerdDad]

This looks cool and the WiFi is a great feature but that video quality is poo poo. I’m curious what the stream would look like with Ethernet, I can’t imagine it would improve since the quality is not great on the screen itself.

[@tombuck]

It's so ironic because the quality OF the screen is incredible.

[@Frank_Sydney]

Thanks for the review. Yeah, don’t "yolo" the Atem out of the door yet.

[@tombuck]

Quite the opposite- I have the Extreme ISO coming today 😬

[@DammaChakku]

Thank you for the review. In my honest opinion, it is not worth it. It costs around $1000.00 to purchase and what you can do with it is not worth enough. I would rather buy a brand new iPhone for that money instead. With an ATEM pro you can do a marvelous job for almost half the cost.

[@tombuck]

If the price went down and the software improved, it'd be an easy thing to recommend. I'm excited to see where they take this concept.

[@PrestonJensen]

It’s interesting but the quality throws me for a loop. Maybe I will be interested if version 2 comes out with better quality. Thanks again

[@tombuck]

Is that a new profile pic? Looks good!

[@PrestonJensen]

Profile pic is the same but I changed my banner and added some text. Thank you!

[@mattwruff]

Hey Tom did you figure out the resolution? FYI I think you may be on to something as I rarely see people figuring out a product. I think people will like seeing all of that. (Yes I’m serious, way to many site don’t show all the stuff you just showed) - Nicely done

[@tombuck]

Thanks! This is as good as I could get it to look. The company said that they've noticed better quality when people use Sony or Panasonic cameras, but I don't have any to test that.

[@mattwruff]

@@tombuck Strange a lot of companies know how to capture an HD HDMI stream. It should have nothing to do with the Camera brand!

[@LiftedNoise]

If you are livestreaming on KZbin, is the chat window viewable from the yolobox?

[@tombuck]

It’s not viewable on the stream, but you can see it and highlight specific comments.

[@LiftedNoise]

@@tombuck okay so you are saying it won't be seen to the public(which I'm not wanting) but I would be able to see it from the yolobox so I can interact with my viewers?

[@tfechtenburg]

I borrowed one from a distributor for testing. The build quality is great, it’s on the software side, there is place for improvement. The fact that it doesn’t support SD cards larger than 128 Gb is a bit strange. Nice to be able to play video from the SD card. Once you have added the card as a video source, you can only play one video. I might have missed how to add multiple files as video sources, so please let me know if you have a solution. For very specific situations, it is a great product. I won’t recommend it for my customers. The quality of the end result, is far from the quality you get from an ATEM Mini. Thanks for a great and honest review 😀

[@tombuck]

I'm really hopeful that they'll keep working on software updates to make the experience a little smoother.

[@johnh.5779]

So I have been one asking for this video for several months. As much as I want to believe Yolo will do the trick for live-streaming hockey games, I am still seeing lots of legitimate issues raised on the FB forums in addition to your feedback here. For now will sit on the sidelines and await a steady platform (performance-wise) and /or the promised YOLO II. Great video! Appreciate your time.

[@tombuck]

I REALLY hope they bring out a software/firmware update to take this up a notch. There's a ton of potential here if so!

[@007KrausBean]

Completely looks like it has potential, but it has a lot of shortfalls right now. That video quality is complete butt compared to a million other things, including just using your phone. For that price it is a complete deal breaker just for the video quality again. I'm sure you could probably find some app for your phone to get it to do all of the same video transitions and things live and not have to invest into that thing. It will be very interesting to see where this goes if they continue to improve things.

[@tombuck]

You can definitely see the potential, which in a way makes the shortcomings more frustrating because you get a glimpse of how incredible it could be! I'm very hopeful that future software/firmware updates will add some improvements.

[@adi_gdp]

Tom I want to thank you for your content man. I'm from Romania, I found you while searching reviews for Podmic and Rodecaster, so I ended subscribing to your channel because I really enjoy your style. Keep up the good work. Cheers from Romania. :D

[@tombuck]

I really appreciate that! I'm glad you're here and I hope the videos can continue to be helpful!

[@ROBOTRIX_eu]

Love from Europe ! Kilo Bits per Second .. .. I have just enough equipment to start, but lying on the bed, is harder or at least takes longer to get it done, but i will keep up preparing, because the world needs i gess, some people that is fed up and has nothing to loose . About the yolo.. some software adjustments, and oh men.. this guys if they approached the market, as first product. not perfect but fully functional... for 250, 300 € max, they would be out of stock, and as lower end, would be unbeatable, and they could atack the high end market, later, with a improved and more home studio orientaded.. i think! Ok..i think next firmware, will be improved, after you help them on feedback. Now i go to watch MotoGP.. this weekend in Portugal..where i live, and i don´t remember last time it rained, but unfortunately, for the race day on Sunday, and also friday and saturday, ..rain.GO, Miguel Oliveira!! I think Marc Marquez returns, after broken arm 3 cirurgies..

[@tombuck]

That's an interesting idea. I'm sure there were logistical/financial reasons why it couldn't be done, but delivering a less expensive concept version, building a community around it, and then improving on it would have been super neat.

[@EliseoWay]

A Saturday drop Tom????? 👀👀👀👀 Super dope!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ThisIsLeeBird]

I don’t like it. Great review though 👍

[@SharonBaba1]

Can you record multiple angles with just one camera like apollo oled monitor recorder?

[@tombuck]

Currently, I don't think so. But it wouldn't surprise me to see a future firmware update that adds something like that.

[@aaronpk]

I love your studio lighting so much! After the pandemic can you come to my studio and teach me how to make mine look as good as yours??

[@tombuck]

That would be a great excuse for a trip😁 (But really, thank you, that means a lot coming from you!)

[@aaronpk]

@@tombuck i have too many airline miles to use myself so this would be a fun treat!

[@luckytran]

Apparently there are quality problems with Canon and Nikon DSLRs which use an older HDMI protocol (h/t Robert Hamm kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4vJdnmuZ8pqmMU). Here's a great compatibility list: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13SaIkYrhv3d3xWgaJ_UApAElvVOq8qln5DC4fcUFqbo/edit?usp=sharing What were you filming with?

[@tombuck]

Canon EOS R 😬

[@luckytran]

@@tombuck 😬 My guess is they are still using a strange HDMI protocol. Hopefully Yolobox can fix on their end, but also Canon gets it together for future cameras!

[@אלוןאנגל-ה9ש]

I wonder if you can get another product like this a kind of all-in-one streaming solution and not just a device like a 19 mini that you need a PC for streaming or other things like it and by all means I will like to see more gear reviews specially monitors and record those combos like the ninja fives and other devices like it keep making great videos my friend

[@CoffeeScribe]

I love your videos... you have the best jokes ever! :) (nice shirt, lol)

[@tombuck]

Haha, thank you!

[@PeterVistisen]

Off topic question Tom: what brand and model is that L-shaped XLR converter you use? Keep up the good work 👍🏼😎!

[@tombuck]

I don't remember exactly, but if you search "90 degree XLR adapter" on Amazon, it should pop up (it comes in a two pack).

[@PeterVistisen]

@@tombuck Awesome thanks 👍🏼 Been looking for one like that for months but never searched for 90 degrees - that did the trick 👍🏼

[@DoYouEvenBlog]

Neato!

[@lemontangs]

This would be handy for on the go when heading to conventions etc. Hooking this up with a gimble would be great as well.

[@tombuck]

Conventions would be super fun- great idea!

[@ItsJamesandMark]

Super thorough product demo! For what it can do, prolly not going to yolo on this and stick with what I know. As you know, we just achieved 1080p on our stream so this would be a step backwards if we went with this option.

[@tombuck]

Haha, yes, continue to enjoy your crispy HD streams now! They look great!

[@alarmman08]

Perfect for a independant wrestling show with a floor cam center cam and commentator cam.

[@EireTV]

Great reviews Tom. I am tempted and it ticks all boxes for me except two.... After years lugging around cameras and leads etc etc I really want to get away from that. So I want a setup that uses Mobile Phones as wireless cameras.....this doesn't. Plus while it is a switcher....it's splitscreen setup for creative overlays is very basic/non existant. Leaning towards a software solution but will keep an eye and see if they update these features.

[@tombuck]

I'm sure you've seen it, but Switcher Studio is a pretty cool app that might be exactly what you need. I used it way back when it first launched many years ago, and it worked well then, so I'm guessing it's only gotten better.

[@EireTV]

@@tombuck Believe it or not Tom.....exactly what I was referring to... If I had both of these products combined I would build whole business around it....out of the box solution. Yolobox is great hardware but Switcher Studio with its Mobiles for Cameras and Broadcast Graphics is the best software.

[@ferkelandstier9406]

This product is good enough. Thanks for showing it, Tom.

[@krazywabbit]

I've always heard you talk about your ethics statement but never read it. Until now. I wish more content creators did something like this. I will take you up on your offer at the end of the statement, use your template and do one myself. Thank you.

[@tombuck]

Awesome! Please take it and change it however you need 👍

[@alidogan6784]

Great concept, limited implementation, if they can update quality of recording and exfat SD usability either for version 2 or even better via firmware they will be on to a winner. I attend a lot of rallies and being able to live stream direct without relying on a phone or big rig might be a killer feature, but would need to be better quality.

[@tombuck]

This would've saved my life a few years ago for school events, but I definitely wish it delivered a bit more now.

[@kilroyfilms7590]

Hi Tom, I got mine today, but when connecting my EOS R I am getting the letterbox view, yours seemed to fill the screen properly. Any advise there? Many thanks in advance James

[@tombuck]

Mine had a black bar on top at one point but then it went away- I thought it was something I did wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@kilroyfilms7590]

@@tombuck cool, I'll play with different cables. Wondering if it doesn't like PAL, I'm in the UK, so will try NTSC as well

[@kilroyfilms7590]

I figured it out, it's Bar Cropping in the settings menu, I must have clicked when messing about 😄

[@ericanderson7059]

When it goes on sale I'll buy a Yolo and with the money I save I'm going to buy some Yoohoo and a Yo Yo . Thank you for your quality content .

[@tombuck]

Yo, that's a good plan!

[@dab7963]

Not for that price 🙂

[@Otromundoparalelo]

The presidente of Yolo send the email to Tom and Tom said send me that thing but I’m not shure if I’m going to create one of my awesome videos for your yolo thing. The manager of yolo said, he’s not going to make it. The president said, Yes he’s going to love it! And there we go ! Now we have the YOLO THING Review from Tom

[@JIYkp]

I wonder if the device is automatically downgrading the quality for wireless streaming to avoid data issues. Perhaps there's a setting for max quality/resolution?

[@tombuck]

I’m not sure- no other settings I could find, but there could always be a software update.

[@JIYkp]

@@tombuck Apparently you can change the resolution of the video by tapping in the middle of the video. Maybe it was set low by default?

[@tombuck]

I had it set to 1080 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@JIYkp]

@@tombuck Welp, hopefully it's something a firmware upgrade can fix.

[@kilroyfilms7590]

Hey Tom, good news (I think) after speaking to Yololiv support they suggested a small HDMI eDID emulator/adaptor between EOSR and Yolobox and it "seems" to have fixed the issue of quality and black bars for me. I say seems as I have only tested indoors, so will be going to the park later for a full test and will let you know. £45 of my English Pounds to solve the issue isn't bad.

[@tombuck]

Ooh, this is interesting! That’d be great if it offers a fix 👍

[@frankfengzhu]

@@tombuck Tom it'll be great that if you can test this or try with another camera! Just a thought, can we sponsor you with a trip to visit Aaron??

[@tombuck]

Haha, I would love to visit him once it’s safe to travel again. Now, whether or not he would want me there is a very different question 😁

[@frankfengzhu]

Tom Buck we could try ask and coordinate if you would like. Or other type of collaboration ideas?

[@kilroyfilms7590]

Tested in the park this lunch time and it worked, the image is much cleaner and no black bars, thanks Yololiv for advice. I live streaming a marathon this weekend so will have my fully mobile rig with 2 x cameras and all that yolobox offers in terms of graphics etc feeding out to a liveu solo (which I've also tested extensively) so excited.

[@RomanMestas]

If I was going to stream video only I would prefer to stream from a mobile phone with a mic connected. Maybe if it had higher video quality to make it worth using a nicer camera it would be more appealing.

[@frankfengzhu]

When you try with Sony and Panasonic video cameras the video quality should be much better.

[@CharlezRichard]

I think the Yolo Liv is way over-priced and under preforms. I do the same thing you are doing with my cellphone using CameraFi attached to my Fujifilm X-T2. Check my video livestreaming using this setup.

[@RomanMestas]

“Apparently this is an android device, I’ve never used an android device.” I knew I liked you Tom. ✌🏽

[@learnabouteyes]

I use it to stream surgery from the OR...it's pretty good for that.

[@tombuck]

Wow! That has to be one of the most unique uses!

[@rjpcam]

Great video! I literally bought this about 2 hours before this video dropped. Can't wait for it to come in. Thanks for the unbiased review

[@tombuck]

I hope you enjoy it! Keep an eye out for software updates, because I think they're going to keep working on it.

[@frankfengzhu]

Try use Sony and Panasonic video cameras if you pursue higher video quality!

[@LarryCastle]

"iPhone 13 Pro Max. YOLO." Dude, you crack me up. Love your sense of humor. I heard you discussing the decision to go with the puns recently. Glad you let your sense of humor shine through. Makes me smile and lol frequently. Keep up the great work!

[@tombuck]

I'm glad you think so! It's much more work to keep jokes out of videos than to just let them happen naturally😁

[@cjpreyes]

Haha. Another great video Sir Tom! ^_^

[@tombuck]

Thank you 🙏

[@cjpreyes]

@@tombuck anytime sir! 😊

[@cjpreyes]

@@tombuck ooooh. I have a question I've been meaning to ask.. what applications can you download in YoloLiv? Like you said, its an android devic.. does it have google play store? Or just predownloaded apps.. meaninh you can't download other apps? Games? Or apks for emulators?

[@tombuck]

I believe it’s running a custom OS, so it’s very limited with no ability to download anything else or use it like a mini tablet.

[@cjpreyes]

@@tombuck oooh alright! Was thinking of supposedly even trying to consider it just for an app that can only be streamed thru phone.. thanks for verifying.. that means.. I wouldn't be able to download it either. Plus its features might be better than the mini since some are a bit simple.. but but hope the video quality was better too. Or better yet I just hope the Atem can update their software and implement some of those ideas :)

[@CoffeeTalkandTechJohnRyan]

Its definitely really cool if you need something that can go live with on the fly that can do most of everything you need. Can be effective if it's what you need.

[@tombuck]

Yep, pretty nifty overall 👍

[@MSladekPhoto]

Thanks for sharing your walk through setup process. Interesting gear. Bummer about saved image quality - seems like that would be priority 1.

[@tombuck]

I'm hoping there will be some future software/firmware updates to fix a few things.

[@MSladekPhoto]

@@tombuck I noticed that the video from Aaron referenced by the YOLO commenter was about twice the bit rate your were getting. That could make just a little difference... Maybe a camera thing? Device setting??? Aliens?

[@arcadealchemist]

this product def needs a DECENT AiO controller but this is a simple solution however it really dosn't look like it can do what a 2nd PC can do.

[@tombuck]

It’s not a full PC replacement, but it’s super nice not to need a computer when working at different or remote locations.

[@wheels9696]

I'm a big fan of your channel--your tips have been super useful for me :) I hate to say tho, your background is just a bit too blurry for me...it makes it hard to focus on you and your position. My eyes seem to go cross eyed when I'm looking behind you. I dont want to be negative and I bet that you dont get that complaint but just wanted to say something. Thanks.

[@tombuck]

It’s a valid point, but it’s a stylized choice on my part and I enjoy it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@edwardmarke7626]

Tom good morning am a new subscriber I enjoy listening to all your tips and advice that you give am a fan already as you can tell and what’s makes it even better am also married to an Asian woman so best choice to you brother. However can you please give me your thoughts on equipment ideas I know you do have lots of videos but this personal I want to do it right thanks brother looking forward to hearing from you

[@tombuck]

Glad you're here! Equipment is such a broad topic, but I always recommend starting with what you've got and upgrading as your needs become apparent. When it's time to upgrade, definitely get the best you can afford without going into debt or destroying your bank account.

[@joshscott363]

This is awesome but for the price I'd expect better video quality

[@tombuck]

Me too.

[@JayWednesday]

I've been looking for ways to use it just as a monitor, connected to my ATEM Mini. But at the very end of your video, I feel like that was a clue that it's potentially not possible. Wondering if you have found a way to do it since?

[@tombuck]

So far there's not a way around it, but from what they've told me it is a feature they'd like to add in a future update. I'm working on a follow up video since I've been able to now get better image quality using my Canon cameras.

[@JayWednesday]

@@tombuck That would be super helpful as well. Thank you for the videos!

[@thornphyozay]

Third

[@craigrs1989]

Okay, I’ve seen it too many times not to ask... Do you have a link for that awesome mouse pad you have?

[@tombuck]

I don't have a link, but the brand is GDBT on Amazon 👍

[@BMMB450]

Tom how if i need to send a gifts to you, is there any adress. Thanks for sharing your thought about Yolo. big like and usual support 👍🏼

[@tombuck]

Thank you! It’s so kind that you’d want to send something, but no worries, just being here is gift enough!

[@elmaldonado]

Hi Tom. What’s your workflow and setup with the ATEM and ecamm. I’ve both but I only use one camera to the ATEM. I’m planning to use a couple more but that means I’ve to keep an eye on the stream deck and the ATEM.

[@tombuck]

I personally use Ecamm for thinks like graphics, layered scenes, and overlays more than anything. The ATEM takes in all the sources and then I just select which one to use at a time.

[@elmaldonado]

@@tombuck Thanks. I like their graphics and scenes. I am just getting heavy demand on system resources on a MB Pro M1 and pretty much the streams crashing. Check out some of my videos at KZbin.com/tvaprende and you will see the issues and unreliability by going 100% on ecamm. ATEMs are a lot more reliable. The only thing I see missing if I go out streaming on the ATEM is the comments (which you can show on Ecamm when going live out through their app.) Anyway, thanks for replying. I am just trying to figure out what's the most reliable way. If I had everyone with me, I'd use all my Blackmagic Cameras and my brand new ATEM Mini Extreme ISO but I haven't figured out how to best handle the people remotely connecting. I am so sorry about the rambling.

[@tombuck]

Hmm, this is interesting- I’m running ecamm on my M1 with no issues and the smoothest steaks I’ve ever had. It definitely clogged up my Intel MacBook, but so far the M1 has been great for me!

[@elmaldonado]

@@tombuck my thinking is that it has to do with the hub(s) I’ve used to connect the Ethernet and my other accessories. I’ve a big show tomorrow and I bought a new thunderbolt 4 hub by Kensington. My hope is I won’t have issues there. But just to confirm, do you stream from the atem or directly from ecamm? Thanks again for the help.

[@dominickcicero]

Yolo was such a 2013 thing! 😂 Great concept of a product, the efficiency could be a million times better 👍

[@frankfengzhu]

I still believe YoloBox is absolutely one of the most efficient product on the market. (the first time setup sometimes may be a bit tricky)

[@johnh.5779]

It may be efficient when it functions correctly but you also have to factor in quality and more so, reliability. When you look there you will see the warts. Wish YoloLiv could provide some insight as to a rough timeline for Yolo II. It kind of feels like resources are geared in that direction and Yolo I is on life support.

[@PatrickRambles]

👀👀

[@Tarunds_Music]

First

[@mkushin]

Enjoying "full time" Tom Buck.

[@tombuck]

Me too!

[@xaviertx89]

Wwwwoooowww more videos🙏🏼🔥

[@tombuck]

Gotta keep the Thursday tradition going strong!

[@PATRICKCASTILLO]

YOLO sabía ;) There you got a pun in Spanish. You’re welcome 😉

[@PATRICKCASTILLO]

= I knew it

[@tombuck]

Gracias!

[@PATRICKCASTILLO]

@@tombuck De Yolo, I mean de nada

[@djxcel23]

Your video is super clean

[@tombuck]

Thank you!

[@TyrantFinderUK]

it is a load of rubbish with loads of 3rd party out of date security updates

[@laurynjoyce]

🔥🔥🔥

[@frozenwalkway]

Yolo is literally a thing normal people say now

[@PatrickBoberg]

After this video did you find out if you could change the quality of the stream to match your studio HD setup? You should do a test (or the couple's table?) on this from a more remote location to see how it operates in a connection spot you don't know. Also, how's the screen brightness work when sitting in full sunlight?

[@tombuck]

The screen brightness is ok, it really is a nice display., but full sun is a bit tough. As for quality, this is as good as I could get, which is definitely not the same as the studio setup 🤷🏻‍♂️