It is cheaper to leave your heating on 24/7, true or myth

[@CJR434]

I'm a senior, and I feel the cold. I leave my heating at 21 all the time. At night I turn the bedroom one off, and put it on again when I wake up. I refuse to be cold at 78. If they want to jail me for not being able to pay my bills so be it. Amen.

[@DavidRedshaw-i2h]

@@CJR434 good on you 👍✅

[@gregwatkiss8973]

Well done! I like your comment although this is not the video to make statements about pensioners. I was in the wrong to make my original statement about being cold. This video is about helping people and not a political platform. But have to say again, I do like what you have said.

[@dalfog2468]

​@gregwatkiss8973 The man has earned the right to comment however he chooses. This isn't North Korea. Not quite yet anyway. Don't worry you'll get your wish of ultimate censorship soon enough. And you'll be the first crying about it. Not comprehending you helped implement it.

[@gregwatkiss8973]

@@dalfog2468 You are quite right in what you say. Anyone has a right to there own opinion and I am truly sorry I made the mistake of making a frustrated comment on a video that was only there to help others. It was a shame that you then had to go and spoil your comment by your additional words. But then I suppose, hiding behind the internet, you just join a long line of 'not nice people'.

[@dalfog2468]

Only one who spoiled anything is yourself. And you know it. You and starmer have a lot in common,no consideration for pensioners.

[@clawrence6190]

I leave mine on all the time now at 17C on the hall thermostat. Gas combi boiler. I use a blanket for extra warmth when sitting in the evenings in the sitting room with the door closed. It works out about £10 a month more in winter to leave the heating on all the time, than when I used to run it at full pelt for 2 hours in the evening and off at other times. I'm now warmer, the house walls are warmer and it's much better. I feel the cold badly being on the older side of life!

[@aleluia01]

17?!?!? lucky you ....I cand do 19, less and I am freezing ..20.5 is about right for me

[@saraandivanevans6881]

Does it come on at 17degrees?

[@kimmcvitty3580]

​@@saraandivanevans6881ours comes on at 16! House sit at 14 with no heating but single storey extention that is new with huge amounts of insulation sits at 11. Edinburgh on the hills.

[@clawrence6190]

@@aleluia01 I used to live in Greece so getting myself used to a much lower temperature took a lot of willpower! I used blankets and jumpers and a hot water bottle in bed to help too.

[@clawrence6190]

@@saraandivanevans6881 The main thermostat in the hallway holds the temperature there at 17C - boiler switches itself on and off as necessary to hold that temperature. But the sitting room is a couple of degrees warmer if I keep the door shut. I also use a blanket when sitting reading, and a hot water bottle in bed.

[@darrenj3267]

Such a refreshing change to see a video put out by someone who knows what they are talking about

[@propstand]

Like telling us the freezing point of water is 4c :) You could happily leave your water pipes at that temperature for ever, they will never ‘start freezing’ as he claims. Freezing point of water is zero.

[@darrenj3267]

@propstand frozen is 0c and below viscosity increases a few degrees above that as water begins so to freeze. In other words it starts freezing before it is frozen, just as at the other end of the scale water starts to steam before it boils. There are some very simple 7th grade physics books you may find a bit challenging, but I'm sure with perseverance you'll get it champ

[@lgparker4726]

I think that's what's known as common sense. ​@darrenj3267

[@robertjohn6354]

Top Tip , read your heating bill , this will raise your body temp by at least 5 degrees 🤣

[@ms3yc]

🤣

[@fullofhope2222]

[@davidmarshall5596]

😂🎉

[@Steinweg100]

Actually you are right! Read your bill, then get an expert to do so! I got legal help via which?

[@romystumpy1197]

😂😂😂

[@johnmehaffey9953]

Thank goodness my wife is going through the menopause it’s saving a fortune with her hot flushes😊, I’ll get my coat 😊

[@Lanesplitter]

You’ll still need that coat for the icy chill in the bedroom. 🥶

[@FighterPilot1945]

😂

[@stevekelly5166]

When she stayed last night, I got naked and turned off the central heating. She'll be home soon, red faced and actually pregnant. Did the test in Tesco.

[@oioisweetheart3500]

😂😂😂

[@stevewhitmill2037]

My wife too ha ha

[@oliverdots]

Thank you for such a great video full of helpfull information. I am a site manager of a school and I keep telling the teachers to set their room thermostats to 21 and leave it there but they don't listen. When the room gets hot, all the children come in, they turn the thermostat fully down. Then when it gets cold they turn it up to 30. Then when it gets too hot they turn it back fully down. I keep telling them they are just chasing the heat. Radiators don't heat up or cool down any quicker by turning from 30 to 16. I'm gonna show them your video on my phone and hopefully they will listen to you. Thank you.

[@Azureecosse]

I lived in Germany for a time it surprised me speaking to some people who use dehumidifiers to take the damp out of the air instead of running their heating system, the common belief is that the damper the air the colder the air and the harder it is to get the air to warm up as you are just heating the Moisture which then condenses so you feel colder, I tried this and it does work the dehumidifier extracted a lot of moisture and the rooms felt warmer with the heating off, I did save a fair bit of money, many Germans are strong advocates for good air flow in the building I visited many people who had a window cracked open a little in the winter at the front of the house and one to the rear. I still use this practice here in the UK ten years later ,I run a standard 20L dehumidifier for three hours in the evening and two hours in the morning it takes a lot of moisture out the house in winter and the air is Drier, & fresher without feeling cold, I also get less coughs and colds it sounds crazy but it does work the more you use the dehumidifier the less you need to have it on in winter also dehumidifiers after extracting the moisture pump out warm dry air which heats the room.

[@arekfpv3631]

It's so true. I do the same from the last three years and it makes a big difference. Also I have my heating set to 20 degrees in C all the time.

[@fredjones4163]

I have been doing this for about 20 years, works a treat.

[@CrazedFandango]

Dehumidifiers also give off heat.

[@mikewinston8709]

Correct. The Germans are right on the money.

[@baileysbritain]

Me too..works fantastic

[@andyking05]

What a wonderful explanation, I'm a gas engineer too, I explain this all the time...... but I still don't think my wife will understand how the thermostat works! 😂😂

[@vonniescrafts1]

My thermostat is in the hall it’s fixed does that make any difference? I’ve been so cold today miserable!

[@MelliaBoomBot]

This year Ive discovered that Hot Water Bottles are massively underrated.

[@andrewcoxhead6451]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@philuribe7863]

Electric blankets - can't beat 'em.

[@DavidRedshaw-i2h]

Stick the hair dryer under the quilt for 30 seconds ✅👍

[@Christine-hr8in]

Yeah Hot Water bottles are OK Until they Split and Scale you, Ain't no joke! or you wake up in a Wet bed and it's neither you or the hubby!!

[@zen4men]

I wear a Woolly Hat indoors - really helps. ===============================

[@Kellycreator]

I was married to a heating engineer for 16 years. It always surprises the engineers when they’re servicing the boiler. They tell me to leave it on and they’ll turn the boiler flow temperature down so it doesn’t blast the water but warms it slower. It’s something I’m very grateful to know. It has saved me getting stressed about paying my gas bill. I barely spend more than £15 a week in winter. It’s electricity that’s been the drain. My bill went from £40 to £100 a month on average. That’s ridiculous and practically a small second mortgage for a holiday home. It’s more frustrating as there’s proof out there free energy has been suppressed for decades.

[@joeycan6801]

Great video ! “ we are snowed in “ ?! Wow ! that’s considered a light dusting where I live, I’m in Montreal, Canada when we receive a storm dumping almost 2 feet of snow is when we say we are snowed in, and still all services keep running during that time. Have a great day from Canada ! 😊

[@tomkatgastraining]

@@joeycan6801 England can come to a stop with 2 inches of snow 😂 we live on top of a hill with steep roads so we had quite a few crashed cars stopping anyone moving. Yo too have a great day in Canada a place I haven’t visited yet but would love to. 🤞🏻

[@ianross5019]

I’m a CIBSE low carbon consultant and a 30 year Building Energy Management System Engineer. Your advice is spot on. It’s the advice that has been given to business for decades. The key to remember is that the central heating is “available” 24/7. That doesn’t mean that it’s “on” 24/7. The fact that it’s available means that you minimise the losses that you would see if the heating was turned off. The key to energy efficiency is minimising and handling the losses. Not just “not using” energy. Think of driving your car with or without cruise control. We all know that, using cruise control, we get to where we’re going in a more comfortable fashion and use less fuel!

[@kabukidreamboy]

Low carbon consultant, lol. That's a totally unnecessary job title as net-zero is a myth and we will bankrupt ourselves in the mad pursuit of it. CO2 is our friend and we need plenty of it to sustain life!

[@TrishaRodgers-ng2xc]

When we lived in the UK we used to leave the heating on all the time at a certain level so the house never got cold and the theiry about thus then was you never needed to warm the house up when the heating had been switched off. The bills were ok not heavy. This guy us speaking good sense so listen to him.

[@Jeanne7774]

I have learned more from you than from the annual gas servicers although they always mention 21 degrees on the thermostat. Thank you this was immensely useful.

[@tomkatgastraining]

Glad to help

[@mikewinston8709]

My MP, Emma Reynolds, Labour obviously, uses her full winter £3.5k heating allowance for her constituency home; she told us this. She voted for the pensioner fuel cuts. All borne out by her voting record.

[@jonboymk1bridgemaryfront889]

bot account 👆

[@plasterer1672]

I thought it was for second homes only . That is double the amount of average consumption for energy usage . Think she is stealing off the taxpayer . Nothing new there . But you should challenge her on it and all her other bogus claims

[@mikewinston8709]

@ As she points out, she is claiming the same allowance as any other politician of any hue.

[@LindaGray-o7j]

​@plasterer1672 Every politician is on the gravy train, not just her. They get £3400 for heating. AND,,,£1700 for their second home if they have one. 😠

[@chriselliott726]

Just to set the facts right - Labour introduced the winter fuel payment in 1997. The levels which MPs are entitled to claim allowances were last set by the Tories. The removal of the winter fuel payments is one of the measures attempting to claw back money to keep out schools hospitals and other essential services running after years of neglect. Any pensioner whose income is low enough to entitle them to pension credits (levels set by the last Tory government) remain entitled to support.

[@gregwatkiss8973]

To Tomkat Gas Training. Please accept my apologies for starting the comments about pensioners and staying warm. I should have worded my comment differently. Your video is about helping to keep our homes warm. I did not release I would get the reaction. My error.

[@jacquib256]

You do not owe an apology you have mostly positive comments just one nasty individual who has managed to upset you! We are behind you so please I’m sure Tomkat feel the same. I found this video as I was concerned about my heating too as on a very tight budget due to the Labour Gov - sign the petition to get Starlin out! Use every opportunity to call them out as most subscribers are also doing on this channel anyway - I hope I am right that Tomkat won’t take offence 🙏

[@gregwatkiss8973]

@@jacquib256 Well said. I am very grateful for your comments. I and my wife have signed the petition. Thanks again. Greg

[@dolceanstar]

As a single man, I only need the warmth of one room at a time. After checking through old bills and experience, I cut off my gas completely, bought a 3kw electric jet style space heater which takes about 10 minutes to heat a room to toastie and then the thermostat kicks in for a couple of minutes in every 10-15. Just the saving in gas standing charges is enough to take a little of the concern out of the monthly bill and any extra electricity consumed

[@catrinalumley6628]

I'm so lucky, I'm housing association... We had our heating upgraded to a combi a couple of year ago... The engineers were lovely... They explained all this to me... I have my water set around 60-65 too, my son has special needs, the water still gets plenty hot for a bath and bits but won't do as much damage if he put his hand under it... Funnily enough I woke up to no heating today, rang housing, gave them the error code, it was pressure that had dropped... Soon sorted it myself... Engineer had me do it while he was present when he installed it... If it happens again, I just adjust, only I'll still ring it in so housing has a record... If I need to be doing it a lot that's usually an indication that something's not quite right... My first ever admin job was with a plumbing and heating installation company in York... Small family firm, I know the basics and know not to mess around with gas x

[@andrealegonidec7057]

I have mine on all the time (when necessary), set at just below 15°c on the thermostat; leave all the internal doors open so the heat is spread fairly evenly between rooms, and there is no rush of cold air in to a warm room and warm air out from doors opening and closing. Heating comes on less often and the damp stays out of the air. Layers of clothes, warm socks, and a blanket whilst sitting watching tv.

[@Nettsinthewoods]

Excellent. Thank you. Great vid. Poor oaps are going to be living in damp houses while trying to heat a couple of rooms, then get pneumonia and pop off. Starmer hasn’t thought of that - or has he?

[@velvetindigonight]

Sadly I reckon all by design…… so wrong. He’s obviously sold his soul a long time ago…….. We all have to choose………. Go well and warm!

[@richfield4405]

Brilliant video, most sensible thing I've seen online this year 👍

[@tomkatgastraining]

Thanks 👍

[@hedgehoghogtel1694]

For the past couple of years, I have had my thermostat set between 17-19 deg. c during the winter (19 during cold snaps), with the boiler flow temp set at 60. I found that if I didn't have my heating on through the night (particularly during cold snaps), the temperature in the house plummeted to below 10 and it would take at least five hours for it to get back up to the ambient temperature. Also, sometimes I couldn't get the boiler to work as the condensation pipe had froze. I keep my thermostat in the room I use the most, i.e. where I work, and have my radiators set between 2 and 5. I can't say my bills are massively higher this way than just setting my heating to come on at set times. For me, this way is much more efficient.

[@williamplatt9827]

Recently retired gas service engineer with system boiler & unvented HW storage tank. HW controlled via it's own time clock. CH is a programmable wireless affair and all rads with thermostatic valves. Two of us in house and retired requires a level of heating above what we needed when both working. Now CH on 24/7 with variable temps set which are bypassed in the colder evenings to a temp that is comfortable. Past month my gas bill has only increased by just over £30. For an extra £1/day and a really comfortable temperature without resorting to layers of extra jumpers etc I'm more than happy. Sometimes you just have to find your own way, I also have my Worcester System boiler flow temp set fairly high during the winter months to give a high rad surface temp which heats our space adequately.

[@Being_Jeff]

What System boiler flow temp have you set it at pls?

[@williamplatt9827]

@@Being_Jeff Currently running at 62 degrees.

[@Being_Jeff]

@@williamplatt9827 Okay thanks, checked mine its at 60 and that where the recommended mark is on the dial so I'll leave it as is and just recheck my radiator valve settings for each room.

[@DocumentingReality-ol9es]

Hi what wireless thermostat do you have and what temp do you keep the loungs during the day?

[@DavidJones-dv7qi]

I recently retired and put my heating on 24/7. Today with an outside temperature of 10 degrees, my boiler with a minimum modulation of 5kw kept the property at a toasty 21 degrees at 37 degree flow temperature firing for approx 10 minutes every 75 minutes with a room temperature swing of 0.4 degrees. I’m quite surprised a heating engineer has a flow temperature of 62 degrees, you must have high room temperature swings !!!

[@pheart2381]

I can feel perfectly happy with 15 centigrade,with proper clothing layers. I dont have central heating so in winter I mainly stay in one room. People dont give themselves a chance to acclimatise to a cooler temperature.

[@frandean5112]

I am the same.I am happy unless temperature drops below 13c.Just layer up.

[@Kevin-gw6us]

Me too

[@pookievision]

Learned something there lad - the rad valve and stat wont make ya rads hotter - they dictated by the air in the room! Its flow temp on boiler heats the rads! Nice one! Now gotta try explain that to customers! 🙌😂

[@jacquib256]

Same here

[@kristinajendesen7111]

I turned my heating right down, almost off when I went away one Xmas years ago. When I got back and turned the heating back up there was massive banging noises from above. One of the bedroom radiators had popped it's rivets & it was leaking everywhere. It also expanded outwards. Gas engineer said he had never seen anything like it.

[@YouRich92]

When we are around freezing temperature I pay attention that all my radiators have a minimal flow so that to prevent them from freezing. Otherwise it may cause crack in them and provide you nasty surprise later - and costly damages. I aim to be at least in the 6-8°C range.

[@Jon-es-i6o]

UK energy supplies are rigged, costing more than they should do. Senior customers should not let their ambient room temperature go below 18-degrees. Less than that can have negative affect on body blood pressure. Your tip to take your thermostat to bed with you is an excellent piece of advice. I’ll try that, thanks.🤙🏻

[@simonpeterbailey72]

The neighbours have a weed farm in the loft 😂

[@SteveN-pw4dj]

Surely it would be better in the cellar 😮

[@mermaid01]

Hang on to them, our neighbouring house got raided 6 weeks ago and we are deffo feeling the chill now 😂

[@maly2ts408]

That roof was higher than his bungalow so the sun would have been on it for longer

[@Secret_Squirrel_Scottishgamer]

If they are through the wall next door move your bed up to your loft free heating ;)

[@andyxox4168]

Use LED grow lamps and you won’t get that problem, cheaper too! 😂

[@hummus6150]

Thank you! Just changed my water down to 55, and adjusted most of the radiator valves too!

[@vinquinn]

The house will take forever to warm up. If you want to run at 55 degrees you need larger radiators.

[@mildredlindsey3144]

VERY INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE. THANK YOU FROM FLORIDA, USA. IT IS COOLER HERE THE LAST FEW DAYS.

[@ArhivAvtorskoyPesny]

In Russia, it is customary to wear shorts in the apartment in winter. 13 thousand years ago, in the north of Russia, there was a climate like that of African savannas and huge herds of mammoths roamed there. Then, due to a possible fall of a comet, they froze and the ice age began. Now, the Earth is returning to normal temperatures and you can sleep in fur coats longer.

[@Traumahawk007]

For me it’s not about cost but being comfortable. Letting a house get too cold costs more in the long run. Heating never tuned off apart from around Mid May to Sep. I run boiler at 66c with with hall stat. 0730- 2200 20c 2200-0730 17.5 when away for longer than a day 17.5. UK homes are not the best insulated with undersized rads. The cost of upgrading systems in most cases will never be recouped.

[@mikejennings6887]

Excellent advice, at exactly the right time of year. Will be implementing this (only minor tweaks required) tomorrow! Thanks (in advance) for future energy saving and comfort. PS we also have realistic gas 'fires' in our front room and separate dining room, so we have more local control. I'm also sure that closing doors to rooms you use less frequently, whilst maintaining a minimum temperature, is beneficial overall. Thanks for all the advice at an appropriate time of the year!

[@goabaridreamer6659]

In the coldest months of the year l leave it at 21* 274/7 In thermostats control and it keeps the house nice and cosy. With remote control app l can change it from anywhere in the world as long as l have wifi. Love it 😅

[@michaeloconnor9465]

I am not skimping on heating.

[@CJR434]

Nor me.

[@EVALLOYD]

I have reversible air conditioning and the technician who maintains the system annually told me that in summer when the house needs to be cool - I live in the South of France - I can shut the air conditioning off when it's in cooling mode but in winter not to shut if off completely just to lower it for it would consume a lot more energy to get the room temperature back to 19°C so that's what I do.

[@-Pol-]

I'm a single occupier and work from home. I keep my central heating off by default. My controller is >20+ years old but I keep it for it's +1 hr button. If the house feels cold when I get up in the morning I press it to heat the house for an hour, but as often as not I don't need to. If I go out to work then I leave it off til I come home. Often when I come home in the evening, cooking is enough to heat downstairs, perhaps with the living room heated with the gas fire on low. If I feel cold I pull on a sweater first. I'm comfortable with room temperature at 18'C. It's usually only when I'm sitting inactive with the temp dropping to 16'C or so that I push the +1hr button again at which point, just the immediate sensation of warming air temperature is enough to make me feel comfortable again, even at 17'. The only time I leave my heating on is when I go away and leave the house empty. My energy consumption is about 2/3 lower than my neighbours.

[@SandraMckay9528-z8f]

Hubby now a retired Plumbing manager has always said room temp should sit around 18 to 21, he told me to keep the heating on around 18, no turning up and down like you are saying, i put a thermal curtain over my front door and the room we sit in to watch tv at night , close the curtains on all the windows and the difference that alone makes is unbelievable. We also have the valves set low in rooms not really in use and higher in TV room.

[@chrisbodum3621]

Brilliant video, clear and concise. Unfortunately the comments section will take a few days before the crap settles on the bottom.

[@motormouthalmighty]

yes It is!I didn't go bankrupt until the end of the second week!

[@JamesWilliamson-w8y]

Tip. Most folk spend about one third of their day in bed so turn off all the heating and buy an electric blanket.

[@davidmiller4078]

Hot water bottl3s are amazingly effective and cheaper and safer

[@richardconnelly7141]

@@davidmiller4078 even cheaper put antifreeze in bottles and turn off the heat

[@kennethfields2288]

I leave mine on the thermostat.Since 1987. Cycling of the system improved with the steps I took. Loft insulation, secondary glazing, cavity wall insulation, full double glazing including doors and more loft insulation. Previously, it would run for 6.5-7 hours struggling to get up to temperature. Savings? Can't worry too much about savings when you need a basic level of comfort.

[@j.master6688]

Thank you for the information. We don't have a central heating, I'm wearing five layers at the moment, including two woollen vests and woollen long johns. It does make a huge difference, but I can't wait for summer.....

[@MiddleAgedBrit]

I pretty much follow these rules already, However, if I set my flow temp to 55c and it's unusually cold outside it can struggle to get up to temp of 19 or 20c due to heat loss. Not much I can do about that as I live in a rented prop. but just turning the flow temp up 5 or 10 degrees sorts it out, which means the property heats up quicker and the stat shuts it off sooner.

[@keithspriggs7372]

another problem is below 12 c black mould will come to get you, 55c flow temp keeps ours at 21 c turn back to 16c over night for 7 hrs 24 hr at - 2 outside cost £5.87 including 5 minute shower baxi 800 combi ,in 2002 3 bed detatched low and slow the way to go if at home all day

[@LemonPuf]

I’ve had to have the engineer round after a gas safety check as it was taking over 4 hours to get the house up to 20 degrees from 16. The gas service guy had turned the rads down to 60 degrees - so the engineer turned the flow temp back up to 70 and now my house gets lovely and warm. 60 degrees flow temp was awful for my house and it never felt warm. 19 degrees or lower and I’m freezing cold.

[@DavidRichards-n1m]

I don't think you answered the question in the title, unless I missed it. Is it cheaper to leave your heating on 24/7 or not. In a well insulated property I wouldn't expect the temperature to drop from 19°C to 15°C overnight, so you are effectively turning your heat off overnight.

[@tomkatgastraining]

@@DavidRichards-n1m you missed it so you will have to watch it again 😋

[@johns9673]

​@@tomkatgastrainingNo, he doesn't answer that question specifically though gives lots of very good practical advice on reducing heating bills. My answer: cheaper NOT to have heating on all the time. However, there are other cost considerations like keeping pipes from freezing or dampness away. My anseer is based on using a simple physics model where rate of heat loss is proportional to temperature difference. Yes, more energy may be required to bring a building up to a temperature BUT the constant higher rate of heat loss of keeping heating on will always be more. The savings will be smaller when the cooling/heating cycle is more frequent.

[@tomkatgastraining]

@ yes I do answer the question I say I leave the heating on but use a set back temperature for night time and when we are out and I explained that I have cut my gas consumption by half. Is that not answering the question?

[@Johno143]

Genius ! Just what i was looking for 👌. Great Video, thank you. 🙏

[@corkion]

when we were kids there was just a open fire in one room no rads we be all around the fire in one room

[@iseeulysses]

I was bought up in a house with just gas fires (and nylon nightdresses 🥹). When I left home I had solid fuel heating - which was great. I now have a south facing, well insulated house with under floor heating downstairs and rads upstairs. Comes on twice a day. My low temp is set to 18deg top to 23deg (winter setting). We have log burners for winter. The back of the house gets hot if it's a sunny day (no fire days) Yesterday, 24th November - it was warmer outside than in. If I had the temps quoted in this video I'd feel utterly miserable - it would mean I went visiting friends or go shopping more, and therefore would end up costing me money in petrol and shopping. I'd rather stick the heating up for a while. I often wear my dressing gown or a throw wrapped round me. I don't drink or smoke and go on few holidays - these are choices - and I'd rather be cosy in my home if I can afford to. It's a home not a house.

[@MrKlawUK]

we’re the same. when it was cold the other night I think it just about didn’t kick in overnight but the next morning when it was set back to 21c, it was close to that threshold. So as long as its no lower than 0c/-2c ish, a 15c setback won’t kick in its just a protection. We have the nest set to opentherm running lower flow temps like you so its less bouncing up and down

[@DGKK55]

Think there's been max of 12 hours of heating in my house thus far. I do the curtain trick from 3pm, thermal curtains make the world of difference. I also sit with a blanket over me. All that being said, I have heating on if it's anywhere near icy! The weather hasn't been that cold, plus, I have 3 dogs who pant if it's too hot! Great tips though thanks!

[@janetwalsh7961]

I have been doing this for years, even in summer because it takes far too much energy ti start it up from scratch. My heating engineer said that it was the best way to control your heating. He comes every year just before winter to check on the boiler. This year I ask for a new thermostat, because I had problem seeing the numbers on the old one.He set this up so that I don't need to do anything. He then set the heating to run without any increase. I then turn down the rads to one or two.

[@fatroberto3012]

"Yes, it's still there. That will be £93 please." I can see a way to save £93 a year!

[@arasf5236]

get magnifying glass for 2 £

[@Mcfads999]

Brilliant Thank you Being diabetic i can wake up so very cold Great explanation!

[@stephenlawrenson2380]

35 to 40 flow temperature- TRV’s sat between 2 and 3 depending on room - running like this permanently. Turned the flow down tonight with it going milder. New boiler 2 years ago has paid dividends

[@ed393]

Next time a tenant ask me that 10 million $ question I’m going to send them a link to this vid, fed up of trying to explain this to somebody that’s never going to understand the answer,they usually say the man on the telly said if I turn my heating down by 1 degree I can save about £300 a year so they turn it down 3 or 4 degrees expecting big savings and call you up complain the heating is not working 🤔

[@imark7777777]

Yes yes yes I love how people tell you don't heat the rooms you're not in, but your interior walls are not insulated! Or turn the heat all the way off and then you're spending considerable time bringing everything back up to temperature.

[@qwadratix]

I don't give a damn what it costs. I intend to stay comfortable. You can all go freeze if you want. Heating is the single most important survival requirement after air and clean water. I would literally rather go without Whisky.

[@UncleMort]

No, there is more snow melt on the other properties as their roof angles are higher than yours and your property is partially shaded. If you put solar panlels on all the roofs you show theirs would have a far higher yeild than the ones on yours.

[@joesophie90]

The thing that people fail to mention is that when a gas central heating boiler is running, the pump is also too. This means not only gas consumption, but also electric. *The wattage of a gas central heating pump depends on the type of pump and its speed setting, but typically ranges from 50-200 watts* This equates to a running cost for electricity alone of as much as an extra £1 a day at the higher limit. This might not sound much, but in say three months - that is almost an extra £100 on top of your gas consumption. There sre benefits though of keeping your home at an ambient temperature, which is, it helps to prevent your home from becoming damp.

[@joesophie90]

You do need ventilation and too much insulation can cause humidity issues and mould.

[@adrianchetwynd1334]

@@joesophie90 Insulation and draft exclusion are 2 different things. Windows have adjustable vents for good reason and not just to prevent high humidity but to provide oxygen.

[@adrianchetwynd1334]

@@joesophie90 All electrical appliances create heat so the issue is purely the purchase price of said energy.

[@joesophie90]

@adrianchetwynd1334 Not all homes have trickle vents, for ventilation. In fact, probably most don't. Too much insulation, with no ventilation, isn't good.

[@alanwood4968]

depends on how much heat is lost from each house. If heat loss is great then no dont keep it on. I really think that triple glass is needed in all houses especially the elderly. But heat loss through not having a front door followed by a lobby door.and the back door is worth looking at two. There are quite a few other things that can help to stop heat rising and keeping it at a lower level. A flat master fitted in flats then there is one for houses as well both run one same amount of electric as a light bulb.

[@BlackGriffin195]

The heat loss from a from any hollow object is directly related to the temperature difference beteen the inside and the outside. If there is no temperature difference, there is no net transfer out, or in. The greater the temperature difference the greater the heat loss Turn your heating off if you are not in the house. To allow for the time lag, turn it off an hour or two before you go out. Set it to come on an hour or two before you expect to return. If you come back early, put on a fanheater for a few minutes. Warm air systems are great, just minutes before warm is circulating, and similarly, switch off as you go out. Super efficient. (great for air circulation in hot weather without tye need for Aircon)

[@russelltaylor7779]

If you call that a significant snow fall I would not take up fishing! The little gudgeon's would be 30 pound carp.

[@barrybarry6592]

How funny I thought exactly the same. Righteous insulation!

[@memoumoumou2629]

I live in a modern apartment with underfloor electric heating . It is set on three different temperatures . 15 during the night , 19, and 21 different times throughout the day the day. I am always raising the lounge temp to 23. Then it gets too hot and I have to turn it down again😂 Never put it on the bedroom as never feels cold. I had period last winter when I turned it off in my lounge during the night and bill seemed to be higher . So I guess leaving it on constantly is the answer. Thanks for the video.

[@RAT.MAN.]

I find burning 8 X 8 chunks of car tyres that I get paid to remove from local garages give off a excellent after dark heat

[@catherinehindle466]

What about the smell

[@DavidRedshaw-i2h]

@@RAT.MAN. I sneak into an illegal migrant hotel it’s boiling hot in there ✅👍

[@timevans8223]

We set our heating back to16.5degC overnight. The heating water temperature is set as low as possible to just maintain the 19degC we want in the kitchen. If it goes below freezing, I will often turn the heating water temperature up slightly. We have a heavyweight Victorian era property with 2 foot thick stone walls that take a long time to get warm. Not letting it drop below 16.5degC and dropping the heating water temperature works best for us.

[@thelittlebluehouse5689]

Thank you for this. Clear,concise and informative. Best wishes. ps I'm a Manc just moved to small detached bungalow in countryside. Always terraces and flats previously. Handy insights! Cheers. Best wishes

[@SeanRidley-g7z]

If your cold in cold weather go for a long walk.. You will come home warm and the house will seem a lot warmer also.

[@S.Trades]

Not to mention the benefit of the exercise!

[@asilver2889]

Fine if you're able bodied enough to cope with snow and ice on the ground!

[@Brian-1948]

Some of us are unable, due to ailments, to go for long walks, sadly.

[@Reba-123]

Many of us are disabled and or old !!!!

[@ramsdenanna6794]

Do central heating systems with plastic pipes and fittings also risk freezing and bursting if it’s turned off when you’re out or away from home?

[@serenashaw-q3y]

I live a very small house, listed, so not able to insulate. I live alone, no more winter fuel allowance, and only turn on 2 rads, (kitchen and bathroom) after 2.00 pm; never have heat in my bedroom etc. Gas boiler serviced every autumn. My plumber has never suggested I should have a thermostat controller - is that not odd? Sounds as though I am living in freezing hell for no reason???

[@arasf5236]

Get chinese diesel heater, cost pennies to run

[@iansouch]

I use a Heatmiser Wi-Fi thermostat, I set the minimum to 15° & daytime to 22°, 22.5° in the evening. The boiler flow temperature to 45°, this is ok down to 0° but for -5° I turn it up to 50-55°. I have a small detached house, mains gas & a combi boiler. Thermostats on all the radiators, kitchen & lounge set on max. I’m retired so I’m in the house most of the day.

[@MrAky4]

On the thermostat in the hallway I've set up at 20 the flow temperature on the boiler 35 it's hot and it costs me around £44 a month this time of the year. Just leave it ON let the boiler do the work. It never drops below 18 and Yes the radiators don't feel warm at all but it's working fine. My brother has done the same to a big house. Just keep the doors closed

[@eazyrat]

It heats the house at 35?

[@marcusd2380]

After a few years of monitoring daily oil consumption and outside weather conditions for or house. I agree with what u are saying hear. Its more economical to keep heating on 100% of the time and let the room states do there thing. Insulation is key as is draft proofing. Them patio doors in the bed room will be a big source of heat loss for you

[@the_full_english]

Wondering if any this applies to dimplex electric heaters? I live in a relatively new build block of flats, ground floor so the insulation is good and last few years have had them set to just come on in the morning and evening when we’re at home. Not sure with this type of heater if it would be worth having them on all the time at a certain temp would be better or not 🤔

[@michaeloconnor9465]

We put the heating on about 3 times a day for no more than 20 minutes. The house rarely drops below 20c even when the heating has been off all night.

[@mrbigvanlife7130]

If you turn off the boiler you use less gas - it’s physics and logic. My heat is off at night and then I boost it for an hour at a time during the day - tiny bills and warm when needed and cold when not.

[@geoffhaylock6848]

If only life was that easy......

[@pmac6584]

So using that logic.. drive your car at 100 mph for 1 hour, then drive same trip at 50 mph for two hours. By your logic the faster trip is more efficient because the car is running for half the time.

[@mrbigvanlife7130]

@@pmac6584no not that at all. What I’m avoiding is wasteful use of heat. There Is no logical reason to run a gas boiler ticking over just to be warm for the couple of hours you need the warmth. So in your analogy I’d drive 20 miles instead of 100.

[@brockett]

365 days a year I leave my CH on with room thermostat set at 18 degrees and I never turn it off. I see no point in having a cold house as this is a cause of condensation dampness. North facing windows and door are double glazed and the glass is also covered in bubble wrap. The roof is insulated with 300mm insulation and all walls are made of thermalite block. Annual Gas consumption averages at 5500 KWhs per year.

[@philipoakley5498]

get temperature/humidity meters to see where you have the main issues (cheap on those internet shops). Check the drains/down pipes and air vents. Once you've got a bit of rot under floor it will re-absorb moisture very quickly. Add a 'dpc' plastic membrane to the underfloor solum/soil (75mm/3" turned up edges) to greatly reduce the moisture coming up from the under-floor. The floor boards radiate heat onto the soil and lift the dampness from the soil into the air and into the house - stop it (the moisture lifting from the soil) with plastic sheet. It's all about nipping each cause in the bud!

[@DeeFay-fl1hs]

Brilliant. Clear explanation of benefit to all. Thank you.

[@Cornz38]

Significant??? One inch of snow??? Country grinds to a halt these days. Never used to AND the snow was far worse in the 70s and 80s...

[@harrydavey9884]

Totally dependent on the home and the installation. If you've got a well insulated home with a well insulated installation, pipes are correctly sized, rads are well balanced etc, then leaving the heating on a minimum temperature and just letting it fire whenever it dips below is definitely gonna be fairly cheap.

[@pauline-q3p]

Ps, I don't live in my hall, no idea why in the UK anyone has their thermostat in their hall.

[@lindawatmore3321]

Having your heating on constantly is cheaper in the long term because you heat up your house and keep topping up the heat periodically and the walls and floors absorb heat from the constant temperature and heat retention in your walls. Good quality curtains and windows keep heat inside the house. Have the heating system set for a couple hours twice a day for running high heat to not completely heat up your home and it returns to colder temperatures quickly when the heat goes off. You furniture can absorb heat from the air temperature in your house. So long as you keep the doors and windows closed where you have the thermostat located and not on the wall or areas where you are opening and closing doors in a main entrance to keep cutting in the heating system. In the long run you can set up your heating system temperature lower temperatures than if you are having your heating come on twice a day. Using a gas fire using more gas than a modern combination boiler or gas boiler system a fire only heating one room. After many years of no central heating system and only a gas fire in one room and a coal boiler for heating water only. And electricity bill for lighting and power supply for appliances was costly and when I got central heating I was using it twice a day for heating and house and hot water for a few hours a day and used the gas fire in between the two settings for mornings and evening heating. Having asthma and arthritis and other issues with health in my children with asthma and taking ill during the night and early hours when the air temperature was colder, decided to trying to run the gas central heating continuously and not use the gas fire. The truth was my bill was lower than using the gas fire and only had the central heating on for a couple hours twice a day and running it up high. Reduced condensation was another factor in mouldy windows and just opened up windows slightly each day and wiping down the inside of my windows for ventilation was essential except the room where the thermostat is placed that can trigger the heating system to cut in and running without cutting out if you have windows open or doors open and letting the colder air flow into the room. Service of the boiler annually is essential for safety and maintenance for an efficient system that reduces the amount of heat that can be reduced by lime scale and partial pressure drops on the radiator system. Check your radiator regularly for leaks and blocking this can cause cold radiator to bleed the radiator and check the pressure gauge on the boiler. Before winter and time for putting the heating on to test run your heating system early beginning of autumn and just running for a few minutes before finding it doesn’t work when you need it when the weather gets cold and you find it doesn’t work for that is when other people are finding out that they need a boiler engineers and demand for a engineer to having to wait for the boiler to be repaired. Before you call for a engineer is checking the radiators and bleed them and check the pressure gauge is in the right position for your system if has dropped it needs topped up to the level it is usually set to. Check the power supply and turn the thermostat up full for a few minutes and turn the boiler on and if it doesn’t cut in the heating does not work for this is when you need to call the gas boiler engineer. Different gas boiler systems have different parts that can fail and need replacing depending on the systems you have installed. Never touch the boiler and recommend turning it off until the boiler engineer comes out to check it. Gas boilers are dangerously underestimated man doesn’t know how Dan gas can be to cause explosion and deaths and destruction of the house and surrounding buildings. Always get a qualified contractor to service the boiler is the only way to be completely safe.

[@Steinweg100]

I really hope that you get this! I live in a rented flat with those hot air vents. The thermostat only works on 6! My bedroom is fridgid and damp. I only swtch on the heating when I have to. Three or so years ago I had probs with my blood and had to leave heating on as i could not get warm! On the week Britgas were crowing about there profits, I recived a bill for £10 k. I recieved legal help via Which and I am awaiting another bill. I also have stage 4 colorectal cancer!

[@elainem7442]

So sorry 😢

[@Steinweg100]

@@elainem7442 Thank you !

[@kabukidreamboy]

I don't get why you would have the flow temperature set to 55 which seems too low according to the generally accepted advice.

[@johnkay9492]

It depends! If the house is built of thermally "light" materials it will respond more quickly to heating being applied when compared with materials which are thermally "heavy". Simply put, if you live in a properly constructed ('cause not all buildings are) house with a timber frame and lots of insulation, such a structure will have a lower thermal capacity than would a stone built cottage. This feature is known as the Admittance (Y value) ie energy flow INTO the fabric rather than Transmission (U value) which is a measure of energy flow THROUGH. Admittance of the stone cottage would improve if the walls were insulated inside to reduce the thermal capacity of the immediate surface. ie You'll feel warmer more quickly. Hey though, give it a go. "Suck it and see," as they say

[@MrRoblig1]

Great advice... Flow temp is getting a visit... Thank you

[@paguk2000]

I have my house set to a minimum of 17 when we are not in and 20 in the morning and 20.5 in the evening. The reason for the 17 is that the house takes a long time to climb back from 14 to 20 c I don’t know if this is the most economical way to heat the house but this works for us

[@beagle30]

Usually have the house at 23 degrees. On all day downstairs and only an hour morning and evening upstairs.

[@interstellarhaggis]

Not a boiler engineer but here is what I've setup Tado Thermostats and TVRs for individual Room Control (no opentherm, just relay) Boiler with Weather Comp (main reason for not moving to OpenTherm with the Tado, onsite thermister being more accurate than a generated temperature forecasted, especially here). Rooms not in use, 15C, rooms in use, varies but generally 18C. A few rooms set not to call heat but just open the valve to prevent the boiler cycling just for the sake of the vestibule, cant modulate that low. Geofencing so when away from home, automatically set to 15C. Night Time, fallback temperatures kick in, again room dependent. More i want to do, but getting into the fiddly stuff at that point. Still find it weird the number of engineers in this area that didnt even realise it had weather comp. Thankfully got a good local company now that knows 19C is not the flow temperature and I'm not left wondering why my face is starting to melt after a service.

[@EssGeeSee]

We want our Winter Fuel Allowance back.

[@McDan-d2t]

Why? Those who have a good pension income and can afford to go on holidays as well as eating out don't need it. I'm 65 and have never had the heating allowance and that's with me and wife's joint income of just below £500 per week.

[@mikethebloodthirsty]

​@@McDan-d2tHiya Rachel Reeves haven't you got a country to destroy😂

[@jerrymcg3199]

@@McDan-d2t £500 per week is a fortune to most pensioners. Don't act the goat just because you are better off.

[@FighterPilot1945]

​@@jerrymcg3199👍

[@Dinadino994]

@@jerrymcg3199another I’m alright Jack . I hope he doesn’t end up alone & I mean that because then he’d know what it is like :(

[@edwinstar100]

God bless you! Great practicle tips, and insulate, insulate. Thanks!

[@johnmfjw]

My answer to the cold winter weather, is a heated vest as well as using my central heating from 5pm to 9pm.

[@paularcher1616]

A few things to bare in mind, if a house falls below 15 degrees c, it takes more money per kw of energy to get back to 15 degrees and less energy per kw to go from 15kw to 20 degrees c. Also if you have an unvented cylinder or a gravity cylinder it’s not a good idea to drop the boiler flow temperature to 55 degrees as a cylinder needs to be heated above 55 degrees at least once a week to kill legionella. You get some heat loss in the pipe work from the boiler to the cylinder especially if they are not insulated.

[@JL-yg8gl]

House heating is like a refrigerator, once it is set, it will only start up to maintain the temperature. If you have too large a temperature difference, you'll need more energy to bridge that difference.

[@VivKBee]

My dear old Potterton only has a 1-6 stat-control (6 = 65c), but I have also fitted a Pipe-stat (43c) on the convection feed to the cylinder. The two stats are wired in series so it appears that both will need to be “on” for the boiler to ignite. The pipe stat at 43c will cut first, but always maintaining hot water in the cylinder. The Room-stat only controls a double-pole relay. When it “calls” for heat, one pole switches the CH-pump on and the other pole by-passes the Pipe-stat. The boiler then ignites until its own stat cuts it out at 65c. The radiators get nice and hot and when the Room-stat is “happy”, the relay is switched “off”, the CH-pump stops, the by-pass opens and the Pipe-stat is back in control.

[@NicBox]

Heh, I’ve had a smart thermostat for the past 4+ years, and from day one we set the away/overnight temp to 15 degrees! Must be a magic number!

[@phann860]

I live in an old house, about 1905. My wife is a believer in the "Teletubbie" of wearing layers of clothes. Finally I rebelled and put the thermostat from thermostat in the kitchen to 10 degrees from her preferred 5 degrees. Explaining that the thermostat in the enclosed cupboard is at 5 degrees means that the rest of house is going to be colder and damp is a danger. I usually put the heating at 20 degrees for an hour and turn down to 10 degrees in the kitchen cupboard.

[@kimorsler5794]

Thank you . Brilliant advice

[@tomkatgastraining]

Glad it was helpful!

[@helenmorton3072]

I am trying what you have said turned down my thermostat on radiator pulled curtains back on in bedrooms will try anything to beat price rises

[@stevekelly5166]

As an engineer and scientist, 5'C is not going to burst copper pipes. Water is at it's most dense at 4'C, so expands either way from that temperature. Is 2'C is worse than 7'C? Yes. Ice expands. Mine is on all of the time, all year, but only turns on when the thermostat asks. My cat says says 15'C

[@andyxox4168]

No pipe is going to burst unless it’s hydraulically locked by closed valves at both ends or by ice or ice plugs!

[@matthewwakeham2206]

As a rule of thumb things are not going to freeze unless it's forecast about -4C overnight just due to how long it takes everything to cool down from the days warmth. The exception is if the daytime temperature never gets much above zero. If it's forecast below zero best thing is to have the heating timer on constant but turn the thermostat down when you don't want it on.

[@JoshuaTrinityWolf-dc4up]

30 years and we shut the heat off at night for 12 hours. Our equal billing is 110.00 a month 2024. Used to be 84.00 a month for years before 2019 when prices shot up. We heat from the basement rec area library tv room and we heat 75-80 F to keep mold away and heat the walls and floor in the basement.