FLUE FLOW TEST AND SPILLAGE, part 1 a gas tutorial for trainee gas engineers

[@peterbrady1794]

am just on my gas engineering journey and your tutorials are explaining it better then the text books :)

[@tomkatgastraining]

Thanks and good luck on your journey 👍🏻

[@jonathansharples495]

Hi Derek, love your tutorials, im an ex pupil of yours from 20 years ago and made a good career thanks to your interesting and informative tutoring. Keep it up.

[@tomkatgastraining]

Jonathan Sharples hi Jonathan remember you well , remember giving you a certificate spelt wrong lol

[@sansp424]

Thank you Derek, your step by step tutoring has been very helpful in understanding the whole process.Hats off Sir.

[@len5509]

Recert in a few days so good to refresh . Thanks Len.

[@rajan246]

Marvellously illuminating to see a 5440 in action (from a baby heating engineer chewing on his ACS). Thanks Derek and Tomkat.

[@Smiley-vp2pn]

Once again Derek ,cant thank you enough for your time making these videos .Great knowledge and very well put to understand .Please keep going .Top man .

[@leaturk11]

Got my renewal next week, very helpful. plz keep them coming.

[@tomkatgastraining]

Good luck with your ACS let me know how you get on 👍🏻

[@mohammednadeem7274]

Great video on flue flow test Derek, you pick up something new every time you watch it.. 😂😂🤣🤣👍👍

[@simonfrancis5458]

Well done Sir, you clearly received the same old school training as me ( with updates ! ) Same lingo, even the 'Snotters' I retired on 28 th Dec 2020 after 43 years in the Gas industry but always learned something new everyday. Incidentally, on the question of wether to tightness test or not on servicing, I used to have a saying.... "if you put the pipework under strain or stress then test"

[@MacLennan-A]

Brilliantly demonstrated. Love the videos, keep up the good work.

[@kazimmohseni6913]

Very useful thanks for explaining spillage test so much enjoyed keep getting well mr legend.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@jagjitsingh-vd3mj]

Very helpful all the video thanks for new gas engineer and trenne

[@1414141x]

Re-aligning the closure plate can be a pain when it has been moved umpteen times over the years. So what I do is before I remove it I get a straight edge and mark small pencil markson the wall either side of the closure plate - left and right - in line with the spigot opening, and the same with the vertical parts of the spigot opening, left and right - I mark the wall slightly in line with these. Then when it comes to putting the closute plate back on I have marks on the wall to help me position correctly.

[@madmaycon2531]

Very good explanation, thank you very much Derek !!!💯👊

[@Garlicandginger]

very good Derek, just what I need before my ACS, watched many videos 👍👍👍😁

[@chrispulyk]

Great videos, really helping me out for my ACS exams coming up!

[@mj0n4id36]

Not the first time I’ve watched this. Fantastic video. Love it. Very clearly explained. Great step by step guide for us beginners. Thanks Derek. Asian Jon. Training.

[@Davyboy1801]

Very informative videos, Derek. Great stuff.👍

[@bigbadchillybear]

Thanks for this vid.i have my gas renewal test coming up in February 😭.I dont see many of these fires about anymore And this was very helpful.👍

[@tomkatgastraining]

XxxFaZeFramexxX good luck in February and thanks for watching cheers

[@piotrmarchwacki3414]

Excellent video, very useful information. Thanks Derek. Polish Peter - trainee at TomKat😃

[@adrianJUPANU]

Really Helpful, Big Thanks 👏👏👏👏👏

[@dvsnbanda]

Thanks for another great video

[@pablogarciafernandez1185]

Very useful. Thanks Derek

[@joaovittoria2533]

very well explained, thank you!

[@mohammednazir8307]

Great video once again

[@simoncarpenter9119]

Thanks another top video.

[@miralemcatibusic511]

really good, one thing that could be explained better is how you go about checking full length of flue while holding the pellet rather then dropping it and completing the visual . still very good

[@antoniogalluccio4213]

2 man operation

[@shanea2045]

Great video thanks

[@monikanader9454]

Very informative video 👍

[@aaronjoyce1980]

Just watched top vid Derek 👍 Aaron trainee 😁

[@vladimirstafasani4630]

Very very good video👍

[@antoniogalluccio4213]

Can the wood of the frame for the plasterboard touch the blocks or there has to be an air gap within the studs and blocks a s well?

[@sanjk9116]

Brilliant as usual. So you have a series where you do service on back boiler and fire? I am slightly concerned about the methodical approach to this., Its my understanding that I do an initial tightness test prior to removing the fire, then, well then I am slightly confused, there is so much discrepancy between engineers, some say to do a "mini tightness test at gas valve" and a final tightness test once back boiler has been serviced and everything replaced? Is there a video you have done on BBU service that clarifies this? Thanks

[@tomkatgastraining]

No I haven’t done one yet sorry

[@sanjk9116]

@@tomkatgastraining no worries I dont suppose you have the time, can't find one anywhere online.....hard to come by I guess

[@rivkiroyde4362]

Thanks Derek! Benny

[@marccrowther7257]

great video mate marc crowther

[@garlic1558]

Best explanations

[@bradleyduffett4651]

Very helpful 🙏

[@samir0007085]

Thank you sir I am on training and it is very very important for me thanks for details full full appreciate thank you sir

[@tomkatgastraining]

sami m thanks for watching cheers

[@abiolaquadry1712]

Thank you Derek

[@chrisjones4500]

Thanks Derek..

[@rickabitia]

Cheers Derek 👍🏼- Ricky Skolosdra

[@shannonj1000]

Question how can you go into the loft if you are holding the smoke pellet surely you would need to put it a the bottom? Please can you confirm..

[@tomkatgastraining]

It take a while for the smoke to travel up the chimney but if the chimney is leaking in the loft you will see the smoke because it hangs around for ages so once the pellets have finished you the go around the house and loft looking for smoke.

[@hatemmimouni7015]

Thank you so much

[@higeridgeronbo2]

Hi Derek as part of a service a flue flow test much be carried out on gas fire where do you carry out a flue flow test on a gas fire stove is it inside the stove itself as Ive looked at some MI and its not clear many thanks

[@tomkatgastraining]

It will tell you on the data badge and the MIs but most are at the draft diverter at the back

[@higeridgeronbo2]

@@tomkatgastraining Thats for flue flow test and spillage test at the back of the draft diverter cause i know all the spillage tests are done at the back thanks

[@arronthomas6177]

Where do you do a flue gas anerlasis test on these ?

[@chikemadekwe4342]

Good vid, thanks. Bear in mind you have an accent so if you use the predictive txt please ammend it coz couldn't understand a few words. I had an experience when a gas fire was live due to bad wiring in the house so I always test for current first. What say ye?

[@atiqyy]

Hi Derek I am watching most of your video it is very helpful could you plz make one of the most wanted video for the new engineer which is MULTIMETER USING would be much appreciated,

[@tomkatgastraining]

Thanks for watching cheers

[@julianreading]

Currently Gas Safe training, thank you for a very detailed interesting video "Subscribed" :)

[@tomkatgastraining]

Julian Reading thank for watching and subscribing , spillage test next Wednesday

[@kovanfarman]

I wish I could come for training in your center. I paid 6k in London I'm learning more here than our center In London very sad

[@mohammednadeem7274]

Great video Derek, watched a few times but it's so good for gaining experience and knowledge, I have a question, if in the chimney mortar fangs are showing, is that classed as NCS. If yes then why do we class it as NCS. Just a bit confused with that. If you can please elaborate your expertise on it, it will be appreciated. Thanks derek 👍👍

[@lostinthoughtscalminsilenc8167]

Why did you test with and without he case?

[@antoniogalluccio4213]

Can't you just purge by lighting the fire? So it is not work and you don't need to check for leaks? Cause if the volume of gas in the premises is over 0.02m³ but less than 0.035 you're anyway not allowed to do it through a loose fitting and you anyway need to use your appliance ignition system isn't it?

[@Ed-fp9rx]

what type of fires actually have closure plates then? radient? inset? decorative?

[@tomkatgastraining]

Radiant

[@Ed-fp9rx]

​@@tomkatgastraining okay thanks, so inset live effect and decorative don't?

[@tomkatgastraining]

@@Ed-fp9rx correct

[@arianxhebraj6107]

THANK YOU DEREK!!!!

[@osmelmuhendislik807]

Hi, if there are faulty starter blocks and snotts between blocks in precast flue but when we try smoke match and smoke pallet are successfully. Is this precast chimney pass within this senario?

[@tomkatgastraining]

If it pass flue flow and spillage you would advise that the faults are corrected ASAP

[@osmelmuhendislik807]

@@tomkatgastraining if customer don’t want to repair it from me can I leave this property in this situation. This is not id situation and don’t mandatory remove the appliance isn’t it

[@tomkatgastraining]

@@osmelmuhendislik807 if the customer doesn’t want you to repair it then just note it on the paperwork

[@keithparkin5921]

Hi can you cover notching in joists cheers

[@herrklamm1454]

What is a flange? In my procedure it says turn off flange if it is connected to the chimney? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@lostinthoughtscalminsilenc8167]

What does the spillage test actually test?

[@tomkatgastraining]

To see if products of combustion are not spilling back into the room

[@abdulh63]

So helpful thank you!

[@rayhurrell1722]

Ray hurrell getting ready for november

[@spritguru2695]

What should the twin wall be sealed with? The outer skin…

[@tomkatgastraining]

You don’t need to seal the outer skin of a twin wall system

[@moulesanctuary]

Do you have to shut the doors and windows for a smoke bomb test or is it just spillage you need tio do that .. ?

[@tomkatgastraining]

moulesanctuary both

[@joegibb3191]

Tomkat Gas Training just watching part 2 now

[@abuadammemon3968]

On this particular video while i am watching I CALLB*DEREK* AND replied me .so nice of him .GOD Bless him.very helpful.

[@hatemmimouni7015]

Thank you

[@rayc1503]

Always always remember regulation 26.9. If you carry out checking the affectiveness of the flue. The supply of combustion air. Operating pressure & heat input & safe functions of the pipework and appliances. You as an engineer will sleep easy at night. Safety it critical there's no second chances. Remember once you're GSR you are the competent person. You don't want any comeback on yourself. Reg 26.9 isn't for quoting regs it's for peace of mind, stay safe ✌

[@leaturk11]

Does anyone know a website to download free gas fire manuals?

[@mohammednadeem7274]

Excellent video Derek, very useful information for us trainees. Trainee at tomkat.

[@mj0n4id36]

Great video Derek. Thanks for upload 👍🏻 Asian Jon. Training.

[@tomkatgastraining]

Mohammad Jonaid 😂🤣🤣🤣😘

[@gasfitter78]

I mark the closure plate before i take the tape off

[@egservices-plumbingandheat5570]

it is the female upwards not the male on the flue pot. please correct it. Reference: 14:50. otherwise, the condensate from the chimney will run in the flue joint

[@tomkatgastraining]

If you are talking about twin wall it’s male up female down single wall flue is female up and male down

[@egservices-plumbingandheat5570]

@@tomkatgastraining I was referring to the flue block. 14:50

[@tomkatgastraining]

@@egservices-plumbingandheat5570 the flue blocks are made that way they even came with a sticker on the blocks to show you the correct way up the manufacturers even gave me an installation sheet and finally you couldn’t get it wrong if you tried as the flue block wouldn’t sit on the cover block or the transfer block.

[@lostinthoughtscalminsilenc8167]

What is size of heat shield?

[@tomkatgastraining]

What heat shield ?

[@lostinthoughtscalminsilenc8167]

@@tomkatgastraining for a gutter

[@tomkatgastraining]

@@lostinthoughtscalminsilenc8167 heat shields aren’t need for condensing boilers because of the low temperature so what appliance are you thinking of

[@lostinthoughtscalminsilenc8167]

@@tomkatgastraining OF

[@tomkatgastraining]

@@lostinthoughtscalminsilenc8167 an open flued appliance can not terminate near a gutter it has to go above the gutter 1.5m off the pitch of the roof or 600mm above the ridge

[@samchappell233]

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[@shanehunt8360]

👍 Shane Hunt

[@hafizimran6021]

Nice1

[@carsonwilliams6319]

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Chris Taylor

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👍Sue Warrington

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[@KW0NLINE]

Kade W

[@jon-paulward4580]

Jon-Paul Ward

[@mgbroadsterJ]

I don't service gas fires . They can pass one day and fail another .

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[@josephpeart6213]

You didn’t do a spillage test

[@tomkatgastraining]

Check out part 2

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