This NEW RC Car is FAST, Looks Amazing, but has 1 Major Problem!

[@TomleyRC]

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[@yaguom]

Putting indicators on a BMW body? Luckily they didn’t... Can you imagine how unrealistic it'd look?

[@TomleyRC]

haha... 100% True

[@chriswheatley123]

It's usually an optional extra on BMWs...

[@MidlifeVices77]

BMW Wankers all moved to Audi years ago!

[@850RC]

🤣

[@AsurasWrath164]

Lmfao😂

[@SylphidUndine]

watching the like button counter go up in real time just makes me appreciate how us, the viewers, are all watching newly upoaded content of this channel at the same time.

[@TomleyRC]

Appreciate you all 🤩🤘

[@rchannel-gt]

@@TomleyRCwhy aren’t there more modern bodies, why all classic

[@rchannel-gt]

😢😢

[@blackout19]

Combining the looseness of the front suspension with the toe out it comes with out of the box is a recipe for difficult handling. Awful for new users to the brand, but especially the hobby. An exerience like that can put people off for good. Thanks for being honest and open in your review.

[@thqp]

From what I can see, almost all the play is coming from the top link arms as they are just straight links and not triangulated allowing for back and forth movement.

[@Glocktologist]

It’s common for the camber links to have simple ball cups at both ends.

[@thqp]

@Glocktologist yep, but that was not the point

[@YensR]

​@@thqpwell, I think it's a bit of the point. I think their point is that an upper link with two ball joints cannot prevent the knuckle from moving back and forth. This is the job of the lower control arm and its precise fitment, as shown here with the shimming done.

[@stephengrimes6303]

‘You cant do this stock out the box, ohhhh whaaa ohh ohhh noooooooo!’ did make me chuckle haha

[@alantaylor353]

It's certainly a looker.! The RS4 Sport 3 chassis is best as their "Creator edition" rolling chassis version for £99.! The RTRs are overpriced for what they are. The chassis also needs aluminum front suspension & steering components, also rear hubs to get rid of the flex & play to help the handling.. The suspension isn't the best out the box but it can be adjusted. I've actually had two of them, I've used & abused them a lot, always on 3S brushless too, the running gear is pretty tough.! Also also.. THE SERVO SAVER IS TERRIBLE.!! They won't return to centre properly because there's too much play, I either super glue them or even better, just replace with a solid aluminium one.! I run DS Pro 25kg metal servos, they're fast enough, very tough & only cost £12.! Cheers Phil, all the best mate.!!

[@TomleyRC]

When I was searching for the issue, I did see a lot of people suggest the creator one. It’s shame that 10yrs on and it’s not been sorted

[@alantaylor353]

@TomleyRC It's more than a shame Phil, it's a bit of a piss take.!! Shame because the RS4 is a really solid RC at its core.! Hey, maybe you could do a video where you build "the ultimate" RS4.? You felt how good it was with just a gyro installed. Btw, don't break the motor mount, the stock ones are never available & Yeah racing/GPM are over £20 & aren't that great.!

[@ruggy711]

Your videos have gotten me back into rc cars after 20 years away from the hobby and I have bought 5 cars in the last 7 months. Your videos have helped a lot when it comes to buying rc cars and they also have great entertainment value. I watch every video you release,I’ve been watching your older videos as well and just wanted to say thanks mate. I hope you have a great new year.

[@Del350K4]

HPI should address this. They're trying to rise from the ashes of their previous success, and they have my full support in this - but they need to get their priorities right. Cars that sell on their looks but which later turn out to be problematic will end up disappointing customers. If this chassis won't respond to a setup which brings some front toe-in to the party, they should just accept that it's intrinsically unstable and fit a gyro as a stock component.

[@TomleyRC]

I’m really shocked it’s been an issue for so long without anyone really looking into fixing it 🤷🏼‍♂️. I’ve fed back to HPI, let’s see if they can sort it out

[@Del350K4]

@TomleyRC They say that they're back, leaner and hungry for success. I shall be interested to see whether they respond to your communication on this.

[@iainlee4680]

I totally agree!, ide rather it didnt come with a body at all but drove straight.

[@Del350K4]

@iainlee4680 Yes, plenty of cool bodies are available elsewhere.

[@woutervanwijk4369]

Nope, they are practically dead

[@SprintKing76]

I will forgive the lack of Allen memes as the tintin meme was a very suitable replacement

[@TomleyRC]

haha... I agree

[@Mike_and_Life]

Was it, though?

[@craigknox8516]

Was just chilling flicking through youtube wondering what rc videos to watch and got a notification saying you have uploaded. Perfect. Buzzzzin hahs

[@TomleyRC]

Let’s go…. 😇🤘

[@scaleworksRC]

It's almost like our words have power..🤔 seen it myself with "you can't do that with.." and "one more pass.." almost always ends in tragedy 😄

[@aut0bahn]

New HPI, same ole front wheel slop. I have one of these and I used a nitro exhaust manifold spring stretched across the center and hooked around the inner most steering balls. This pulls it tight together and eliminates most of the sloppiness.

[@wordreet]

Interesting!

[@TomleyRC]

I’m gonna maybe try some metal parts and a better servo

[@wordreet]

@@TomleyRC Hmm, yeah, sloppy suspension is the bane of anyone who doesn't want sloppy suspension

[@joelhodge9728]

I saw this release and nearly pulled the trigger and purchased. So glad I saw your review first, you saved me some certain misery. Thank you and keep up the extraordinary work.

[@Nerm78]

I am glad to see HPI getting back in the game. That is such a beautiful body. I cant wait to get my hands on their new 18th crawler! Great video my dude!

[@partone709]

I wonder if experimenting with different tires maybe a softer compound alongside your tweaks to the steering is the holy Grail for handling.

[@paulus842000]

Gavin from RC Kicks had the same problem with it pulling one way.

[@Slikx666]

One thing I've used to take up any slop in the suspension is rubber o rings, there's a huge amount of sizes and density available and if done right can help a lot. 😉👍

[@Bazil-m6x]

please buy one of those realistic life sized radio-controlled swimming ducks and make it fast that would be really funny

[@jonathanwhitehouse2378]

My dad had one in the 70s it had an 8 track stereo that played massive cassettes,so cool!

[@iainlee4680]

That must have been a huge rc car😂

[@venex3rs318]

Taking out the servo saver and putting in a different servo made the etron version I've got usable. This platform isn't the best but when it works it can make you smile.

[@TomleyRC]

Once I got that gyro on it was a lot of fun!

[@Krideezy]

“The problems fixed” as you crash into walls. I love it mate 😂 too funny

[@TipoftheMitt69]

Lmao “ you wouldn’t been able to do this stock out the box”. I don’t want to do that stock out the box.

[@MCsCreations]

Awesome bashing and review, Phil!!! 😃 But yeah... My Suchiyu goes straight. 😬 Happy holidays! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@josephmorelli3191]

HAPPY NEW YEAR you & your family PHIL! Never miss your videos. Always a lot of fun. I typed my comment before I watched all of this one! I hope you don’t ruin that beautiful BMW body!

[@roysredneckgarage2956]

I still have the original HPI RS4 rally in the Subaru body. They’ve had sketchy steering issues since they release that 20+ years ago.

[@Glocktologist]

True. I had an RS4 Mini with the VW Polo body, I think I got it in -98 or -99. It required professional setup skills to be driveable at all. I never got it to work right but a mate of mine did, their whole family was into RC racing.

[@ka-nv9xn]

I have an HPI Sprint 1 GTI, its like 30 yo an it handles like a KING! Easily my best driving car, and it has slop in suspension an steering... I think these lighter cars has to wobble a little bit to go really good, my tt02r has this sloppy stearing as well an it does handle great (but not like the hpi)

[@rcfools]

When you said you had found a fix, I thought you were going to say it was the wheels/tyres that was the issue. The Rlaarlo 917 and 787 metal chassis cars have a similar issue out the box with feeling like you are driving on ice when trying to go fast in a straight line. Changing the wheels/tyres on them cures it.

[@mcgruff424]

I laughed sooo hard at the end... "Awe maaaaan... Aawweee Maaaaaaan" now that's a quotable quote

[@TomleyRC]

lol… I was so annoyed! The very last shot for the video!

[@JABzHobbies]

That needs to be on a shirt! Lol

[@mcgruff424]

@JABzHobbies ill take 5% for the idea @TomleyRc I that's a winning idea! 😏

[@MJWCBW]

I’ve had my rs4 for a decade. U need softer springs, the yeah racing aluminum steering cranks, and to get rid of the servo saver to get them to handle right

[@n22pdf]

Looks awesome love the old beemers owned a fair few in my time😊❤ sad news about the steering 😢 Pete

[@Biker289]

Ambidextrous people for the win! I throw right handed but i bat left handed. We are just not normal! 😂

[@tylerseabook9423]

Man, all these cars are the same independent suspension. They’re all identical with little different features. They just sell them with different tires and a body. When is a company gonna make something new like a solid rear axle and a strut system just to be different

[@hunterhouser3143]

Yep that’s a problem! when there’s play like that it causes major toe in under power then major toe out when your off power and braking. I deal with it on both my slashes🙄

[@hunterhouser3143]

I just want to add that gyros are a lifesaver! I have one slash with and one slash without a gyro and it’s a huge difference. The one without a gyro will instantly spin out as soon as you get off the throttle from wide open

[@rcplaytime]

slight tin tin 😂😂 brilliant 👌 nice BMW,shame steering isn't set up properly 👍👍👍

[@TomleyRC]

Haha

[@bassstarlet5729]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="233">3:53</a> a use of clear protective sticker, would protect body from this situations.

[@WinkelManBearPig]

The steering reminds me of the Kyosho Fazer MK2. I have the brushless L version and the Charger body, I stuffed every steering joint with o-rings to get rid of a lot of the play. They just arent made to take 3s power

[@qwertyuio8965]

I've run this chassis as my primary rig for a couple years now and a little toe-in on the front wheels goes a long way for high speed straight line stability.

[@nunocarneiro464]

That's the problem with HPI , they keep putting great looking bodies with the same old crap underneath. Now the supposedly cheaper branch of the company, maverick, has the better cars The only two cars i really like from HPI are the venture and the wheelie king

[@3Y3ECE]

Excellent video!! Great fixes, the shim and the gyro!! Been tinkering on a drift project for a while now, and there's a lot of gyros out there, what would you recommend? I'm sure you've tried a bunch!! Looked into your video history, and saw a SkyRC gyro you talked about 6 years ago, but, obviously theres been a lot of new additions!! Keep up the great work!

[@Speedbird917]

What a gorgeous bodyshell. You're a bloody hooligan 😂😂

[@DanPRC]

Yup! The Sprint 2 Flux also had steering issues. I made up a drag link for it back then and was able to do 70mph+ with it after that.

[@TomleyRC]

Hoping to get this sorted and put the speed gears in 🤘

[@iainlee4680]

My tt-02 had this exact issue aswell as they have play in almost every part out the box, i fitted the genuine tamiya steering set but still did it, switched the gyro on on my receiver and BLAM drove fine😂 i run it on 3s with a 3300kv max10 combo and its really fun now! Oh, also had to upgrade the entire drivetrain to metal though as it spat many many parts out on 3s😂

[@just.jose.youtube]

I always liked HPI, I do wish them more success and I think we "need" them (some brands are just too "comfortable" in the hobby). That being said, the steering issue is totally unacceptable. Especially if it's been around for so long. HPI should do something about it asap, that steering looks like pasta! Having such a product on their catalogue is terrible marketing.

[@shaunodriscoll]

Glad I watched this one as it’s been on my wish list for a while, but I think the money is going to build my rally car. Based on ….wait for it a Hobao sc10 st.

[@benwilson2420]

I definitely agree a 10 year old problem should not be . I thought the same on the gyro fix. So let's see if they listen an do a v2 as the price tag should come with already.

[@shadossss]

On that 2nd speed run attempt could some of that left and right pulling be the curvature of the road vertically I mean. How it’s highest in the center and dips to the sides. I have that problem on my road. Just a thought.

[@shadossss]

That being said clearly that has some struggling to go straight no matter what. Wow.

[@keefbartkus]

Exotek makes an aluminum steering rack for the sport 3 that helps a lil bit. Mainly, prevents rocks from jamming the rack. I actually like the sprint 2 better for the optional one-way diff in the front, for an e-brake feel. I would rather deal with the belt drive issues over the sport 3 steering issues.

[@Tryk]

This is sad. I built an RS4 Sport 2 almost 25 years ago. 25 years!! And that thing drove perfect, and I can promise if I pulled it off the shelf and chucked a battery in that it would still drive perfectly. Shame on HPI

[@icabodpsillycyberman414]

Im generally right handed (writing, using tools, Table Tennis , cricket, Pistol shooting) but left handed with others (eating, playing pool, rifle shooting) and cant do any with both hands. Im left handed with an RC and had to get a Noble NB4-wish other manufacturers could have come up with that controller-awesome idea.

[@TomleyRC]

I know a few right handed people that do some strange left handed stuff 😅

[@marxnex71]

I genuinely love hpi stuff. Fond memories. But they need to put this chassis out to pasture. I spent ages fannying around trying to sort all it's issues but i gave up in the end. I also had the sprint 2 model, a porsche 911 gt3, which was belt driven, and it was miles better. It's a shame they can't sort it. Cos that beemer looks mint. 👌🏻

[@LtdResources]

I know it could remove some of the fun, but could you weight it down a bit? That could force traction which could improve the steering maybe

[@adampsrcs3487]

Great stuff as always mate.deffo a great looking car.you should get hold of the maverick quantum rally and compare to some of your other rally cars.i got one 2weeks ago and it's wkd fun.and amazing value for money I think.£224 ATM.be good to see and hear your thoughts

[@TomleyRC]

I’ve got the truck version. So good for the money!

[@livinagoodlife]

That title screen image tho. Art!

[@TomleyRC]

Great shot… but wasn’t working as well for a thumbnail

[@Daytonafox1]

NOT a Beemer fan but DAM this look's AMAZING I actually want this!!!

[@michaelball1887]

Tweaking is why I love this hobby ,to get a perfect car would be nice but Impossible to please everyone to make it perfect.Therefore I love finding a good car and working out what will make it better,for me anyways.😁🍻♥️👍

[@tomcat205]

It is a shame that HPI has deteriorated the quality, I have 2 hpi trucks since 1999 the quality was very good at that time

[@ProNewbRC]

Shims! I want to see that part. Nice van, got me a Metris

[@garrenpelealu7307]

Hi tomley, can you compare the wl124017 and typhon grom in terms of handling and durability

[@TomleyRC]

Grom is better Quality… but for the money the WLToys is awesome

[@garrenpelealu7307]

@TomleyRC thanks for the answer, i really appreciate it👍👍

[@markbruton-young9228]

What sort of caster angle does the chassis run at the front? Most TC run 4 degrees as a minimum. Are you able to angle the front pins to -4 or add - 4 degree c hubs?

[@DroneKame]

culd you please do a rlaarlo omni terminator skatepark bash vidio?

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, one coming next month 🤘

[@DroneKame]

@@TomleyRC Thanks so much:)

[@EriMCardenasRC]

I wanna see you running this RTR’s on a On road track🔥

[@TomleyRC]

Me too!

[@powerlitep17]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="440">7:20</a> reminds me of my tt02 before I shimmed it 😫

[@squaddingquads]

Niiiice, a car from my youth, god, I'm old

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, they are awesome 🤘

[@dezgunner5940]

Did you try adjusting the diffs ?

[@smithandshortdogs]

I had the same tracking errors with both my sprint 2 and sport 3 (both much older cars... from before 2018). I generally run my cars with traxxas transmitters because they are cheap, I have a mountain of them and you can add like 40 cars to one remote. The built in Gyro in the receiver completly fixed the tracking problems without having to mod the car. Is tis the correct soloution? No. But it does work.

[@jamiecroxson6004]

Why u got free on the v3 big rock is it a competition merry Christmas love your content got a couple of truck's myself

[@TomleyRC]

Link in description and pinned comment 😇🤘

[@aaronbyrd8428]

Hello from Arkansas USA.! I am also a lefty. And I also drive righthand. You know, they say lefties are in their right mind!

[@tsasso6199]

Hey your mirrors never fell off😊

[@Paul__FC]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="843">14:03</a> Nope , it pretty sure that's exactly what you get out stock of the box.

[@lukeryan90]

Came here to say the exact same thing 😂

[@SharkysGarageRCandMore]

Hopefully HPI will listen to you !

[@PhilipCockram]

The body is nice , but agreed , there's much better vehicles for that price point . i'm left handed too , but do everything with my right ..including guitar. LOL . I think it depends a lot on your first experiences or exposure , and some are just generally ambidextrous .

[@tylerharvell9938]

My first car was a mint 1974 2002 Tii, this is cool

[@iainscoines]

dam look's so cool , they should of put led's in the indicator spot's but not have a option to turn them on ;) lol or every time you stop it puts the hazards on lol, I gotta stop ragging on the BMW inditator thing lol and HPI kinda sucks, always look ok/good never work like the competition .... Hope you have a Merry New Year Buddy 💯❤‍🔥

[@Matt-it8jh]

I wonder if the chassis is felxing at speed. It looks thin and maybe the road vibrations are cause deflection. Might be why the problem is still being chased.

[@BenchRacerRC]

The problem with the Sport 3 fro day 1 is that the chassis tub is too soft so every time you open the throttle it tries to tie itself in a knot. A carbon or graphite tub would fix it but nobody makes one.

[@jamesmclean3267]

Phil love your work channel is unreal have you seen the new hnr foxhound h9804 rally car any chance you could review one to see if its as good as the panther and werewolf

[@TomleyRC]

Got one on order ;)

[@jimboslice12-o7m]

Will that body fit the xts ? Bmw still looks jittery even with giro

[@Fighting_Torque]

Loving that one, looks great fun!

[@brettdillaman5477]

I'm the same way. I'm a lefty, but I play the guitar right-handed. I use both too

[@JPTulo]

Are you sure the steering issue isn’t related to the servo? The way it sticks right or left makes it look like a servo centering issue to me.

[@TwisRcGarage89]

Painfull ending. But what a cool car!

[@SteveSchmied-vv1pt]

I have a RS4 3 Heritage editio also. Does the same thing. HPI never improve or update any of their cars. I love HPI. Just wish they would get back in the game.

[@KnockedSoup]

I’m looking for something solid rear axle 1/10-1/8 scale with IFS either rwd or 4wd but all I can find is the Baja Rey and element crawlers, can you think of any others? Any suggestions would be appreciated and we’d love to see your guitar collection as well

[@rctraildriversuk-lone-wolfvide]

great video, shame you sacked it at the end, that body proper looks like its made by killer bodies, looks ace

[@KT_One]

Please re run after getting some better ball joints/turnbuckles. Bring front toe to zero or positive 1 degree

[@shanerockbass1986]

Wish they would put a better offset on the rear wheels

[@Wardazord]

“Slight tintin” got me hahaha

[@TomleyRC]

😅

[@sohchx]

They should never have killed the Cup Racer!!

[@titus.ugrin91]

Lock the front diff, the only fix, same issue with kyosho 10th scale ondroads, kyosho fixed it from the factory after complaints years ago

[@Lilakas]

It could also be an issue with the slipper clutch being to loose and then it putting more power to the rear causing it to slide out

[@TomleyRC]

100% the steering.

[@CoryyJ]

That steering is EXACTLY the same as my Traxxas Stingray. Incredibly frustrating.

[@mehimrc1314]

Looks spectacular but they've got the wltoys wheel wobble going on not the best selling point 👍 Hpi stands for "hurried pass inspection" 😂

[@matthewheitzman5993]

Alignment alignment alignment!!!! IRL I've got a 500whp+ NEON srt4 that was completely unFUCKingdrivable under boost It would be top of 3rd 100mph and have a mind of its own changing lanes 4th gear 120mph same thing You try to make the SMALLEST of corrections to keep it straight and the rear felt like it was trying to overtake you Got an alignment done.... toe in front and rear Now that damn thing pulls straight as an arrow and is terrifying for whole different reasons 😂

[@Sol-hl2rj]

Front lifts at high speed? Loosen up that front diff - maybe good for drifting / rallying, but not high speed tracking.

[@50pAndie2pounds2]

W😮w !! Awesome piece of kit dude - love the slight window Tin Tin 😄- Dont roll it Phil 🙏🫣🤣🤣

[@danzag0767]

What car is on Tomleys shirts he sells?

[@TomleyRC]

Honda City Turbo :)

[@guylevinger9330]

I have the same problem with my wr8, very hard to keep it straight when speeding

[@TomleyRC]

My WR8 was fine 🤘

[@disciplinerc]

First-ish!! 🎉😅 I'm an ambiturner too fyi

[@Mrfuncomputerwithahat]

Yo tomly can you review the fms 1220mm ranger rtf rc plane with float is very easy to fly

[@TomleyRC]

I may look at some planes in 2025 🤘

[@Mrfuncomputerwithahat]

@TomleyRC 😁 yay

[@Dreadwing21]

Would like hpi to resell the bodies they use to sell. Charger, surpa, etc