My 2024 Belgian Grand Prix Race Report // Tommo's Race Chinwag

[@Snazzy16]

The real driver who had a banger drive was Charles. Led turn 1 on a super hard start, kept max and lando behind while they were in way faster cars, took the car into p4 (p3) with a car that shouldn’t have been there, qualified p2/pole where a car shouldn’t have been, out qualified his teammate by 7 TENTHS!!!!

[@RsEramies]

Dude you completely missed the point on Sauber that they pitted Bottas from P10 with eight laps to go. His race engineer even straight up said on the radio that they would've been P12 (and then promoted to P11!) if they stayed out. And this after second guessing themselves and trying to make Bottas decide the strat on the radio (wtf?). Even if it went to shit, they still would've been P15-16. Absolutely impossible to score any points if they don't have the slightest sense of taking a risk for points.

[@TommoMcCluskey]

To be fair yes - I did completely miss this. Adds to the stinker. 😬

[@justinwalpole8956]

Another example of the one stop bring a good strategy. Russell drive I'd overrated

[@j.3o21]

I watched the race and I didn't even notice that tbf

[@ShadowWolfe]

Sauber in general is very easy to miss. Much like Alfa Romeo beforehand. They're just... _there_ and they just... don't do anything.

[@damonblackburn5634]

Alfa Romero looked quick and slightly competitive occasionally any given session but Kick seems completely lost and just hopeless they couldn't even pull off a proper Tyre change entire 1st qtr of season in a race the requires it. can't wait to see 🤡 at the helm atleast should be fun to watch them choke and not just dead boring Bottas deserves more his name hasent even been mentioned for the Merc seat for a kid F2 driver even as a just a experienced stop gap... and for the data I missed them blowing it today too lol

[@Reece_Hart]

Being Australian I went to sleep after the race thinking "Man it sure was nice to have such a great race where we had no controversy just nice, hard, clean racing." Then I woke up to read about George getting DSQ'd for weight. I swear this season just can't have a weekend where something spicy doesn't happen

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Perhaps that's the product of things being so close between so many at the top. I'm here for it. 😅

[@LegoStarWarsStormtrooper]

controversy makes everything better 😮

[@Mr.Corridor]

Bro I did the exact same thing. Was driving my brother to school and he goes “did u see that Russell got dsq’d?” I said “no?!?!” Ah the circus that is f1.

[@qwerty123163]

Very unlucky for Russell but Mercedes finally seem to have got their act together! Going to be a juicy second half the season!

[@RehanX44]

gonna suck for norris and mclaren because they bottled so many races and now mercedes have caught up

[@hamza-chaudhry]

Finally? They've been good since Canada

[@RehanX44]

@@hamza-chaudhry mercedes is still not there when the temps are hotter the car struggles in qualifying

[@Jordyrugby]

@@RehanX44was warm today

[@RehanX44]

@@Jordyrugby i said in qualifying, mercedes was leading the race and clean air is king here also the drs is shortened almost everyone struggled to overtake the slower cars ahead except lewis lap 3 on leclerc i think redbull and mclaren would be further ahead if drs was not changed

[@Harrison244]

This race was a 8/10 for me! I thought it was awesome seeing all top 8 drivers battling & all with a legit shot at winning

[@TommoMcCluskey]

I enjoyed it, always kept you thinking.

[@justice4g]

Banger driver Ricciardo was correct if you check the pace of all midfielders including Alonso and Ocon he topped the list but that quali strategy again prevented him getting P8 / P7.

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Was a good time to put in a performance like that. 👀

[@axelj4963]

Oscar will have a brilliant second half to the season. It happened during both his f2 and f3 championship wins

[@Ethan8181]

Even last year in the second half we out qualified norris more often then not.

[@squalidseal6126]

​@motherrussia3848 yeah. He peaked towards the end.

[@TommoMcCluskey]

He's found some excellent momentum. Just gotta stop punting his front jack and we good

[@Ticklestein]

27:50 - Someone in the LawVS livechat did the math, it came down to 1.9 sec over the race distance. Lewis would have had 6 laps extra to overtake George. It matters.

[@TommoMcCluskey]

But that's assuming George had that 1.5kg advantage for the ENTIRE race. If it is the worn tyres at fault, that would be a gradually increasing relative weight delta from like 50% race distance. It may have made a difference to Lewis' ability to overtake at the very end, but nothing more than that IMO.

[@livefast-xc8lm]

@@TommoMcCluskeyyou have to factor in Lewis not being told by the team George was going for a 1 stop, he would’ve covered off his teammate if that was the case and used up a lot more of the tyres before he pitted for new ones. He admitted that as well. I think you’re overlooking how well Lewis George and just feel bad for George but discrediting Lewis. It’s a bit odd…

[@davidwolf446]

@@TommoMcCluskey I don't get why everybody blindly follows the worn tyre narrative when a onestop - as always - is a well known alternative strategy that every team simulates and calculates before each race. Somebody screwed up their math before the race, or during when they managed how much George was allowed to push...

[@Ticklestein]

@@TommoMcCluskey Fair. Although I wanna emphasize I didn’t say it’s the deciding factor or anything, just that it mattered.

[@magicmillz]

@@TommoMcCluskeyit’s not the worn tyres fault because they weighed the car with and without the tyres. You can see this on teds notebook

[@MrJohnhunk]

Bearman is closer to Perez than Perez is to Max in terms of points. I think today was the last we saw Perez in a Red Bull.

[@TommoMcCluskey]

😬😬😬

[@masamune0202]

There's something to be said about how good George is at staying at the front once he's there. Already his win in Sao Paulo was incredible, having Lewis breathing down his neck in the same machinery, including a safety car restart. He's bottled it a couple times while trying to get to the front, yes, but if you give him a car her can just be at the front with more often, this guy will win mad races.

[@RobertoRodriguez-fe2ts]

Great drive from Ocon. Mighty fast driver. Hopefully big upgrades will come soon.

[@justinwalpole8956]

Lewis was 10 seconds ahead of george before he pitted, so he definitely would have won had he not pitted

[@lukenoonan3898]

George was stuck in traffic. Same reason Lewis couldn't pass his team mate with much better tyres and drs.

[@justinwalpole8956]

@@lukenoonan3898 that's George's fault for qualifying far below Lewis

[@lukenoonan3898]

@@justinwalpole8956 far below? You guys are hilarious. Yes he qualified below him this time. Considering he's like 10-4 in qualifying, he's not going to outqualify Lewis every single time.

[@ddha0000]

@@lukenoonan3898 to be fair, Lewis is destroying George in the last few races and is showing he is still at his best even at 39. if he has a competitive car, he is still the only guy that can beat Max in equal machinery.

[@lukenoonan3898]

@@ddha0000 destroying? Lewis couldn't get past his own team mate, on much quicker tyres and DRS. Piastri could do it though. You guys are deluded. He's 10-4 down in qualifying and like 9-5 in race finishes. It'll be a similar story when he goes to Ferrari can't wait to see the excuses you lot come up with then lmao.

[@sujjo]

I did watch the 24 hours of Spa race last month and the GT drivers were loving the new grippy track surface and were doing much faster times than last year. They were running Pirelli tyres too. So grippy track, zero warm up issues and efficient deg all contributed to the 1 stop working. I think that is why George had good traction on all the important parts of the track to keep Lewis behind. In the cool down room, George did say he kept finding more grip as the laps ticked down. That is down to the track surface. They've smoothened out the bumps as well. Hats off to Spa. Great work with circuit maintenance.

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Yeah I agree, it worked really well. Especially now the field has closed up, it gave multiple drivers a realistic shot.

[@sujjo]

@@TommoMcCluskey Images of the Monza revamp are also coming out. Hopefully we won't see those dreadful sausage kerbs at the re profiled chicane.

[@KrisSanford10]

As an Australian, your "worst Australian accent ever" sounds like one of us, pretending to be a typical Aussie Bogan. So, honestly.. you kind of nailed it.

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Why thank you 😅

[@CallMeEsteban]

Easy 8/10 for me, fantastic race, much less cringey than all the radio drama last race. Max fighting with a non dominant car, I’m INNNN for the rest of F1 2024!!!

[@1972dsrai]

I think the tyres could be why he was disqualified. In being used for 34 laps - 16 more than team-mate Hamilton - Russell's hard compound tyres would have been more worn and thus lighter. The difference in tyre weight could have been as much as 0.2kg per tyre, adding up to 0.8kg - more than half of the critical 1.5kg. I think the team messed up as they should have been aware of this, but maybe they got caught up in Mercedes being on course for a 1/2 finish and totally misjudged or forgot about how much underweight he could end up being with only one stop.

[@hayleydoran6143]

Many people, including me, voted before the Russell disqualification was announced. I wonder who would be the Banger Drive/Team if you had posted the poll an hour or so later.

[@StarlordStavanger]

wait I thought Russell won the race?

[@hayleydoran6143]

@@StarlordStavanger He did, but was then disqualified for the car being underweight. Russell still drove an amazing race, but if the winning car was effectively illegal can they really be “Banger Team”?

[@TommoMcCluskey]

I still reckon it'd have panned out the same, but Mercedes could've merited the Clanger vote given they got their car DQ'd from the win. 😬

[@seekhearts]

The photos of marko, Horner and Daniel together after the race. Daniel and max sharing a heli home. I think we know where it’s going

[@j.3o21]

Great!!! Cannot stand Perez

[@jamarij5814]

@@j.3o21Honestly not great imo, Daniel had his chance and left to go to Renault. The fact they haven’t put Yuki in the car is beyond me

[@KrisSanford10]

I think everyone outside of the Red Bull higher ups, agree with this view.

[@TheLuthorri]

​@@jamarij5814 think about the Tsunoda case from Red Bull's perspective.. think about why Tsunoda drives a vCarb.. What happens in '26?

[@chrishalious8194]

@@jamarij5814 GIVE ME A BREAK

[@Miamiburaz]

Before the race everyone was hyping Spa like it's the only track that allows overtaking and how Max is gonna be p1 by lap 5, and now everyone is saying "well they can't really overtake on Spa expect for that one part of the track"🤣

[@1972dsrai]

He’s already had more 4th/5th place finishes this season than he’s had over the last 5/6 years. He has to be getting worried about that lead and whether he can maintain it.

[@itsluig2i]

Crazy 4 races-run for mercedes nonetheless. Last year Lewis still put 59 points on George's head despite getting dsq from p2, so it may still be possible for George to overtune (assuming they don't increase their 1 DNF each)

[@SCNikto]

erm Australia and UK, not even close to being 1dnf only for George this

[@itsluig2i]

@@SCNikto well technically australia isn't one, and since it was his own mistake behind fernando i don't think he gets to use it as an excuse

[@rotteneggconcept]

with Totos Help anything is possible

[@James_the_Prince]

From Norfolk, can confirm... We give 0 shits about Norfolk day xD Lovely ol' chinwag as always

[@haydensmith5225]

Lived here most my life and this is the first I've ever heard of it 😅

[@TommoMcCluskey]

Shock 😅

[@22NightWing]

My biggest gripe with George getting DSQ is that it fuels all the toxic haters to spout nonsense about George receiving karma and "what he deserved". Like, what is going on in your life to feel the need to viscerally hate a driver like that for no particular reason...

[@stevenjoseph6048]

George and Ocon are by far the most hated drivers I've seen in recent years. Both has made their fair shares of mistakes but the hate they receive online is insane.

[@thecompanioncube4211]

George receives hate for no reason other than him being LH44 replacement essentially. He was widely loved when he was in Williams. But you can’t deny that what they are doing to Lewis throughout the season is shady. But yeah, don’t hate George for doing the right things

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

@@thecompanioncube4211 What have they done lol The 3 biggest fuck ups this season have all been done to Russell, 3 races in a row

[@CringeLord0119]

Exactly, Russel did not deserve that. He did the smartest thing and deserved to win the race, but Lewis’ rabid fan base hardly ever listens to reason

[@22NightWing]

@@CringeLord0119 Sadly, it's not just the LH44 fan base, I've seen so many toxic comments come from a bunch of different driver supporters. Such a shame.

[@gustav1806]

Is weighing the cars without the tyres too crazy of an idea?

[@christofferrsnes9508]

Should do it without the tyres going forwards. The decision going for a bold(and faster) strategy should never go against/break the rules. Just a very unlucky day for Russell and co, seeing as how the rules are written.

[@Lewythefly]

@@christofferrsnes9508 Do you guys honestly think that's why he was 1.5kg light? Keep dreaming

[@TommoMcCluskey]

It's not to be fair. Would save on all the pickup stuff - yes.

[@boltthybird8345]

Mercedes knew that they were underweight even without the tires. They left 1.8kg of fuel extra in the tank before sending it to be weighed. If the stewards hadn't drained the extra fuel before weighing they would have passed the test. I think they forgot the weight between the different floor specs and found out when it was too late to change.

[@1972dsrai]

Exactly. Thats what I think they should do considering he only stopped once and would have finished with far more worn snd thus, lighter tyres. But the rules are there for everyone, tyres included so theres no excuse. If Mercedes were top of things instead of getting excited about getting a 1/2 they probably would have made him pit twice to ensure he at least picked up some points. With all the testing they do on tyres they surely should have been thinking it could be a factor.

[@kityhawk2000]

Err im not sure George could have picked up 1.5 kg of mass just by going through the marbles but if being underweight was genuinely down to him doing too much tyre wear (which im skeptical of TBH) but if it is then this is a mistake thats on the team and George's side as it sounds like they pushed too hard on the final stint

[@magi0500]

Think the team just drained to much fuel from his car

[@rvfharrier]

@@magi0500 The cars are weighed with no fuel. Mercedes didn't drain all of the fuel from the car though, because they knew it was underweight and so left just enough fuel in for the car to weigh exactly the minimum amount and hoped the FIA wouldn't notice. They did, drained the car fully and reweighed it and found it underweight.

[@magi0500]

@@rvfharrier ah ok thanks

[@christofferrsnes9508]

Tyre rubber weighs a lot actually, if it was a whole lap of Spa he would probably picked that up. A cooldown lap round here is probably around 2:10 so its a lot of rubber to collect

[@rvfharrier]

@@christofferrsnes9508 But noone did a cooldown lap. Only George was found underweight.

[@chrissawyer6034]

Tommo killing it on SKY last week. Next time you gotta get the sausage dog on with you. Minton is fabulous!!

[@Supra_Rankin]

I think you underrate Danny Ric if you think hes gping from p2 to p8

[@blauekits7782]

The 1-stopper got GR the W but also cost him the DsQ. Excessive tyre-deg + plank-wear + fuel offload of pushing especially in the last stint sums up into the car going underweight in my opinion.

[@blauekits7782]

Also consider the early race radio message to HAM to lift & coast. This I suspect means the team might have under-fuelled both cars slightly. HAM did lift & coast a bit while in the lead + the pitlane delta while boxing(twice) saved extra fuel and tyre-deg in comparison.

[@lalalittle3900]

​@blauekits7782 Yeah, I don't think Russell was coasting and lifting. He was pushing too hard to try to maintain the lead.

[@NathanBrownisawesome]

@@lalalittle3900 I feel like he would have been able to lift 25 maybe 50 m before the end of the kemmel to not lose the lead, I don't think that would have necessarily added up to the extra 1.5 kilos though

[@lalalittle3900]

@@NathanBrownisawesome Yeah, you may be right.

[@RD40_]

The Norfolk day stuff was a follow up from the abandoned F2 sprint while they were filling time, and with Alex Brundle in comms. So it actually had context.

[@Silver1770]

@Tommo The point you made about Russell not being 1.5kg underweight for the whole race and therefore not benefiting isn't correct. As he the car was 1.5kg underweight at the finish, the car should've been 1.5kg heavier at the start also to prevent being underweight at the finish. It's not so much that Russell gained time, but others lost time, because they were carrying extra weigth the whole race to not become underweight at the finish.

[@1972dsrai]

Just a theory, but could it be the tyres that caused him to finish underweight? In being used for 34 laps, 16 more than Hamilton, Russell's hard compound tyres would have been more worn and thus lighter.

[@davedewsnap288]

Except the very action of staying out & one stopping and then going hard on the tyres to fend off Lewis, was the cause of his underweight car. DOH. George just didn’t want 5th. However 5th is better than NOUT.

[@isakibrahim8316]

Sharl podium in that absolute shit box, that’s why he’s the goattt

[@Surfsaus]

Race rating 9. Oscar should have won if not for a poor pittstop.

[@LH_447]

Own fault

[@TheLuthorri]

​@@LH_447overdrove past his pitbox

[@tigerpjm]

​@@LH_447 Nobody has said otherwise, have they?

[@miscaccount9438]

I'm not a Russell fan, but he definitely deserved the win today. I'm happy Charles gets on the podium though 😂

[@AB-tf2ik]

Deserved it on what? His car was illegal

[@DeanHall-og5dn]

How can he deserve the Win if his car is found to be illegal. Whether you are a fan of a driver/team or not if a car is found to be under the weight limit then they deserve to be DQ. It’s plain as day. No different to Lewis and Charles last season with their worn floors.

[@miscaccount9438]

First off all, I was never arguing against the disqualification, that was an easy call to make, and the right one. Russell deserved the win in that between his driving and his strategy, he didn't make any errors. His drive was worthy of the win. The car being underweight is not his fault, this is not something under his control; but it is absolutely something to be disqualified for. My biggest genuine question out of all this is: How much weight will an f1 tire actually shed during use?

[@randomchicken0490]

​@@miscaccount9438 Mario Isola (Motorsport Director for Pirelli) said that a tire loses about 1kg over a race stint, that's 4kg for all four tires.

[@todd.sherley]

If it was Lewis underweight his supporters would be claiming conspiracy theories 😂

[@magicmillz]

He got a DSQ for plank wear in COTA. This is purely fan fic

[@Cromptoversial]

Surely the team should have been punished and not awarded constructor points as the driver didn't actually do anything wrong, as other drivers have said any weight advantage of that small amount wouldn't have made any difference to the result especially as George was on old tyres as well, I wonder if the FIA will clean pickup off tyres in future before weighing cars?

[@Cuskocuint]

nobody talking about the non final/extra lap in spa to grab rubber could be silver line.

[@magicmillz]

Everyone else was the correct weight

[@coin5207]

The team knows beforehand the driver don't do this extra lap. Still a miscalculation from them.

[@aratakeneikawa6589]

Btw, FIA can, and does remove the tire marbles when weighing the car. And yes, Russell definitely benefitted from weighing less. But a great drive nonetheless.

[@7BD273]

@@aratakeneikawa6589 Then why would the drivers even pick it up in the first place?...

[@aratakeneikawa6589]

@@7BD273 because fia started doing it around 2016/17.

[@GoatAdrian]

Don't you think Max didn't want to pass Charles to have DRS and keep Lando behind? Cause Lando is his opponent. And to be honest, this is not a win and his RB20 with his medium tyres it'll be tricky to pass Charles and maybe give Lando a chance to attack

[@suhailmall98]

Catching up on this just as Sainz to Williams is confirmed

[@Reinonen]

Can you turn up volume in your streams, they are very quiet

[@warrenm6882]

Everyone asking if it’s the last time we’ll see Sergio in f1. But RB were discussing with Williams already about a soft landing for DR - would they like the $30m sponsorship he brings. Now they’re like “How about Perez, he brings $35m?” I think it’s the last time we see Sargeant.

[@ernestoditerribile]

I give it a 7, it was decent.

[@joshd171294]

Russell deserved p2 from that race. Solid gamble but his pace was quite poor for the most part and he had nothing to lose by rolling the dice. Hamilton would have easily made the hard last and it was piss poor communication from the team to him

[@lukenoonan3898]

His pace was not poor loads of cars were stuck in traffic. Another clueless fan.

[@thetraveldrunk]

Giving that race a 9 out of 10 is wild lmao.

[@Ticklestein]

9:13 - And that’s not considering he was given the P1 in Hungary. They go up evenly if you take team orders out of account and look at actual skill

[@emc5890]

No guarantee that if Russel had a legal car he would’ve held off Lewis and his tyres wouldn’t have dropped off neither. A little biased??

[@marius_thsch]

I was like number 1000! 🤩🤯😂

[@dvs9019]

Seems like Mercedes tried to pull a fast one with Russell I didn't expect them to win the race in there for didn't expect his car to be tested. I would actually say George was not unlucky but he was lucky to even be there in the first place due to his underweight car.

[@B.A.GarGar]

I kinda disagree it wasn t given to Russel. All the race on Hamilton's radio he got info about Charles, Piastri and the other. At any point the team said something about Russel. If any other driver did the same strategy as Russel i am sure that he would have hear on the radio that info and Merc would have look at it. I don t wanna take anything from Russel because him as lewis, didn't get passed by anyone the entire race.

[@Obvioustroller]

Not the FIA weight shaming George.

[@dollas_and_sense]

No one could pass but it was a great race

[@johnmclaren3908]

Feels like a changing of the guard at McLaren 👀

[@lewiscooper4579]

Do they account for damage when weighing the cars?

[@kacperzakrzewski6875]

Yes, if they lose some part from wing or else, missing weight is added to measured weight

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Spa needs to be fixed, how was passing THAT impossible

[@thesaintscorner4490]

I think Ferrari is having a Good season with 345 points till now

[@hardhoofdful]

Merc’s explanation makes it even more shady

[@OG-512]

How?

[@williambaumert7726]

Don't the drivers always brag about the difference a kilo makes over the race distance? Russell drove great and you cant fault him, but if his car were at weight would his tires not have worn out as expected?

[@William_Organ]

The method for weighing cars post-race is somewhat inconsistent. From a scientific perspective, you have three key variables (I am ignoring damage like chunks of lost carbon fibre): Dependent variable - vehicle weight Independent variable - remaining fuel Independent variable - tyre wear Variation in vehicle weight is determined by fuel load and tyre wear. My understanding is that post-race, the remaining fuel is drained from the vehicle; however, the tyres are not removed. If drivers/teams are going to be penalised for tyre wear in isolation, then it is weird to include them in calculations. Currently, the cars are weighed to include a variable that is not regulated (tyre usage). It's like they tried to be scientific in their approach and then just gave up.

[@William_Organ]

Long and boring but essentially, if you are going to have such strict rules, you need to have a consistent set of parameters for determining the results.

[@leongt1954]

The last driverI can Remember on a podium then gets DQ Danny Ric in the 2014 Melbourne GP

[@huh4206]

lewis and Charles last year right?

[@hayleydoran6143]

Banger team when a team error got one of the cars disqualified? Really?

[@zaksacc]

A kilo and a half makes a helluva difference in terms of pace lol

[@j.3o21]

Over a race distance, I think 2 litres would shave a couple seconds off the final time.

[@OG-512]

@@j.3o21 3s so he would have been P3.

[@Zack_F1]

I commented tommo be happy

[@joannep5785]

Puff Piastri, that’s funny.

[@lukegoodwin6992]

Aston Martin is heading towards becoming a repeat of the massive failures of the Toyota F1 team

[@PinkBorussia]

8/10 is crazy horrible race until last 6 ish laps

[@7BD273]

So gutted for George. He showed this race for the doubters that he can absolutely deliver at the top end. His tyre management was class (his last 20 laps on those hard tyres were all in the 1.47s!) and he endured the pressure in those last laps flawlessly. This will be remembered as an all time drive regardless of the final result. Just a damn shame that the team cost him close to 50 points over the last three races...

[@itsluig2i]

It for sure was a great drive but saying he would have won silverstone when he retired after Lewis already overtook him is such a stretch

[@7BD273]

@@itsluig2i I didn't say he would have won it. Also, his pace in the dry was great. Who knows where he would have ended up.

[@itsluig2i]

@@7BD273 Oh my bad, I assumed u meant it since 25 (today) + 25 (silverstone) = 50 Where do the other points come from tho then?

[@VirkStar321]

@@itsluig2ihe could’ve tbf, because he mentioned he started having problems around lap 12. Which is when he started to drop pace and got overtaken.

[@RehanX44]

he has himself to blame what has the team got to do with it? it was his decision to not pit and push the tires beyong possible limit you cant blame the team for that and if it works give the credit to the driver

[@livefast-xc8lm]

Other teams did a 1 stop without being underweight 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@hamza-chaudhry]

7:40 Still one of the best drives we've seen in recent times 50:45 You might be thinking of Andy Cowell who was the engine guy from HPP 1:11:40 His post-race interview made me think he would've considering how he talked about his pace. But maybe it would be Mercedes who wouldn't allow it because they'd have a higher grid position that they could potentially lose if it didn't work out.

[@stoshu9584]

Obviously gutted for the drivers and all the staff that work so hard on the car and operations, but as a kick/stake hater it does bring me a bit of joy to see the team not scoring a single point yet. What a truly pathetic season lol. Awful company and I hope they don't stick around too long in this sport.

[@TheLuthorri]

Well they are becoming Audi in '26

[@stoshu9584]

@@TheLuthorri yeah, just don't wanna see the brand on another car after that. Even as a non-title sponsor lol.

[@TheLuthorri]

@@stoshu9584 they really have made themselves into a joke. And Bottas into a joke of a driver which he is far from.

[@stoshu9584]

@@TheLuthorri Bottas really does deserve better. Zhou has been totally anonymous too and I'm curious to see how he might actually drive in a decent car.

[@jarnogroote4683]

Giving this race an 8/10 and considering a 9/10 is absolutely insane to me. If Russell does not go for a 1 stop, this race would have been like a 4, an absolute borefest with 0 wheel to wheel racing and no overtakes at all with the top teams. Russell going for a 1 stop slightly saved it to like a 5 or a 6, but i really dont understand how this race was actually exciting to people

[@md244-w6v]

Strategy. Plus the finish and of course Russell's gamble. It's definitely tougher to sell 90 mins of strategies slowly unfurling and playing out over the course of a race vs immediate on track battles. Love both and would love to have both at the same time but a lot of fans can appreciate this type of race also

[@jarnogroote4683]

@@md244-w6v yeah i agree that the strategy part of the race was great, however it just didnt really result in any big shake ups, just some simple 1 car overcut or undercuts and there just wasnt really any extra fighting because of it so it didnt really get me excited but that could also be a bit of a personal thing. I still think that even if you do enjoy just the strategy part, an 8 is too high, a 6 or a 7 would be the highest to make sense for me

[@StarlordStavanger]

you are 100% right, this race was super mid, tommo just is a big fan of british drivers, so his bias is clearly showing

[@jarnogroote4683]

@@StarlordStavanger i mean i dont really wanna do tommo like that, i think hes a great guy and i love his content but there is definetely some british bias with him, which i cant even blame him for because in the end he is british.

[@christofferrsnes9508]

@@jarnogroote4683this was a great race imo. Going into Spa we knew there was never going to be a lot of wheel-to-wheel battling. Even though i think we got a lot of it between the top 8 considering its Spa. The strategy really made this one great, you never knew who was gonna come out in front during a undercut/overcut, due to the long laptime. And having some drivers on 1-stop and 2-stop really made it interesting. IMO

[@samtierney1685]

As a Hamilton fan who watched the race late because of a birthday, and am now typing this drunk. I'm so glad I did, otherwise I would have been heartbroken for an hour before they disqualified Russel. As it is I got to feel a proper win for Hamilton, without the disappointment of the FIA being terribly slow at checking the cars.

[@DukeGang11]

In what world was that race an 8 or probably a 9??? Drs train the entire race

[@lappin6482]

DR

[@GeneraIG4]

It really shows you don't know what you are talking about with your picks, (0.5/5)

[@hayleydoran6143]

I think Alonso deserves more credit for making the one-stop work. Ultimately George DIDN’T make it work, since he was disqualified for being underweight.

[@OG-512]

George did make it work, Mercedes didn’t. They messed up. Also, George had to have better pace and had to push more than Alonso who was chilling in no mans land.

[@7BD273]

@@hayleydoran6143 George did more laps on the hards. And every car is different, we don't know the base weight of the Merc or the Aston.

[@coin5207]

​@@OG-512But he did not make it work he got disqualified because of it - ? I don't understand how people at the same time can give George credit for making a strategy call that backfired and also blame Mercedes for it backfiring. There's a reason most of the time the pitwall does the strategy and not the driver who has only a fraction of the information needed. The team should have realized he stopped too early to make the one stop work safely and put him on a two stop like initially planned, then he would have gotten the points for a P5 instead of zero points for Dsq

[@chellymac16]

The disdain you have for lando is so confusing…

[@Jamie-ye7fu]

that’s unfair. im a lando fan and i think tommo has always been very defensive towards lando in the past when he’s got unjustified criticism

[@chellymac16]

@@Jamie-ye7fu Idk I feel like every opportunity to say something negative about lando, he takes. I don’t actually think he hates him or anything, I just don’t think he rates him as a good driver at all. To say oscar will outscore him next year? Based on what evidence?

[@misskittyyylane]

​@@chellymac16 Based on Oscar's rate of progression probably. You can clearly see they're already on par with one another and it's only his 2nd season

[@chellymac16]

@@misskittyyylane I disagree that he’ll outscore lando in 2025 but that’s just my opinion, we’ll just have to wait and see.

[@justinwalpole8956]

You say that other cars tried one stops and it didnt work, this is not true. It worked for every driver that did it

[@mazhev]

Absolutely begging you to find a different word to use besides “cook” repeatedly

[@chirmuller5167]

Tommo All of a Sudden F1 have Ruls now where is The Rules in Abu Dhabi 2021.

[@soulful5284]

Im one of the biggest Sir hamilton fans around. Let it go man its been 3 years now

[@TheLuthorri]

We all know F1 Rulebook is a mess. Like the Book of Law.. It's as it's read..

[@OG-512]

@@soulful5284That will never be forgotten. It just won’t. Doesn’t matter if you are a LH fan or not.

[@CebastianRosing]

Can't seriously give banger drive to an illegal driver? Like.. I know it's a team effort to make that weight.. But it's illegal 😂 an illegal driver got disqualified 😵‍💫

[@CebastianRosing]

And he didn't make it work... He got disqualified. It's such a weird take you have.

[@evanubi5]

There have been rumors in the paddock that Russell always had a lighter car than Lewis.

[@itsluig2i]

Bro gave his car ozempic for shirtless pic on insta

[@emma-janeodriscoll2885]

Where you getting that from 😂

[@7BD273]

​@@emma-janeodriscoll2885 probably another butthurt cultlh email.

[@hamza-chaudhry]

Source: trust me bro

[@Kermit-The-Smaug]

Source: feels

[@Grayson-vj1lj]

Big George hater here. Best day ever! 🙌🏼 #toinfinityandbeyond

[@7BD273]

@@Grayson-vj1lj you are pathetic.

[@aaronbarnard8336]

Lewis can absolutely be faulted for his performance during the race. He cracked under pressure and locked up multiple times at the most critical corner on the track...

[@StarlordStavanger]

I didn't think it was anything special, super mid race

[@comebackdad3433]

Mercedes and all british based teams should be kicked out of F1 they all cheaters

[@lukenoonan3898]

Russell is the best Brit on the grid.

[@diangara3298]

"Riccardo delivered another kind of solid race" ?!?! Wtf

[@RehanX44]

25:00 just a little correction i don't think mercedes is to be blamed for the car weight i think russell pushing the tires too much and too long is what helped him win and ultimately chewed the tires to the point he was actually underweight, in hindsight it was actually his fault i really think they did not plan through this strategy he just thought he is ahead and leading and realized the tires are really good and that his teammate has already pitted so he just manufactured a strategy because lewis was a pitstop behind it and the tires just felt great to him

[@iiTzKaran_YT]

1.5 kgs tho

[@RehanX44]

@@iiTzKaran_YT 1.5kg from his tires being worn too much as i said i dont think he planned for it so he had no idea there will not be any marbles to collect on last laps

[@SirBrakeMagic]

And yet Alonso and the others who did a 1 stop is not underweight

[@RehanX44]

@@SirBrakeMagic i think they planned for it and that is why they were slower, russell pushed till the end it seems and did not plan for a one stop

[@Lewythefly]

Stopped watching when you started carrying on about british bias. The British media are horrendous and it's extremely clear to see if you aren't British. If you are confident in your approach you don't need to mention it and the true fans will see that.

[@yahmfyeet184]

womp womp

[@OG-512]

Here comes the ’British bias’ fighters! Shut up!

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Alonso fan- shock

[@Lewythefly]

@@Duval-In-The-Wall I gave constructive feedback, typical whinging poms

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

@@Lewythefly “The British media are horrendous” is constructive feedback?

[@brownbabyuk10]

Sorry everyone giving credit for a strategy that they discussed in their meeting and Lewis said was his preferred strategy in the interview with canal and told the team his tyres were fine and they choose to do the 2 stopper for him and go traditional route. Not his fault and thank goodness he got the win he deserved. Justice prevailed.

[@seanandrews4916]

i feel like you are really understating how well lewis did. he dominated that race. he wanted to do a one-stop but the team told him not to. lewis arguably deserved that win, on merit, more than george. it's pointless to speculate about the weight, but to claim it gave him no advantage is very very naive tommo

[@Ikrfurshuredude]

It’s insane how delusional Hamilton fans truly are holy hell

[@7BD273]

@@Ikrfurshuredude Glad Mercedes and George will be freed from them next year

[@flintey360]

Stop crying 😂😂

[@Ikrfurshuredude]

@@flintey360 I like Lewis, just not his fans

[@ryzegaming3524]

@@Ikrfurshuredude agreed, i really don't even dislike any drivers tbh

[@lalalittle3900]

Max fans, Lando fans, the Tofosi. All of the fan bases are crazy.

[@comebackdad3433]

Leclair should be kicked out of ferrari once again he has shown he is a gutless coward. that's why Hamilton and pastri overtook him so easily