Tommy John For Teens: Why Kids Get Major League Surgery | TODAY

[@buckmark23]

We have to win that $10.00 trophy/ring at all cost.

[@thesnazzylemon4085]

Fax

[@josephmannix5120]

It’s more then that if it’s your dream to play pro

[@ianharper3213]

its because you aren't teaching the proper mechanics and teaching them to throw sliders and curvs at the age of 12. But what most people don't know about tommy john is that your elbow is now stronger because they replace the ligament with a stronger one from your leg typically.

[@josephcasey7842]

It is because of these tournament teams, they over throw in these tournaments where they throw 100+ pitches. a day and sometimes they pitch 2-3 games in two days. Yes they are good at that age but you just ruined their life by doing that.

[@Kawinj]

Not sure what age you're talking about, but my kid plays 12U and on a typical 2 day tourney. He'll only pitch the first game Saturday and if needed one on Sunday. Any team he's played on typically has no less than 3 very good pitchers, and 2 mediocre ones. No coach should be chewing up one kid's arm or even two over an entire weekend tourney. Nor should a parent allow it.

[@bub7097]

not sure what tournaments you've heard of but every one ive played in is if you throw 90+ pitches for 1 game, you must have 4 days of not pitching before you can get back on the mound in that tournament.

[@PatchsOhulahan]

Hmm pitching technique to blame...uneducated coaches... It’s not about how hard you throw when your U-18 but technique! Speed will come

[@TitaanSnipes]

It’s not from just pitching. I understand it’s mainly pitchers who have the surgery but there’s been multiple position players who get it from just throwing to first base. Like Corey Seager .

[@billjarvis9746]

Sean I lucked out. I was a catcher and I felt my arm starting to go after I threw a guy out at second. If I’d pushed it any further I probably would have needed surgery. I was twelve, I think. I didn’t play much the rest of that season and dropped out of baseball, but I can at least play catch today and do some long toss once in a while with friends seven years later. Just too much baseball at too young of an age.

[@ohkozmo4204]

tournament ball kills arms simple as that

[@Ryguy-lg2xz]

Oh Kozmo there is no reason for these tournaments they should only be Exclusively with their high school teams and the rates of teens needing Tommy John surgery

[@lllllllllllllllII]

Ryguy Pdx tournaments are fun y’all are just over exaggerating

[@MarcusMercado-ol9rz]

If the coach doesn’t know how to take care of a player yes

[@Thegeneralms1]

The real “Money Ball”

[@nofurtherwest3474]

Why not have kids learn to pitch with both arms. Then they can spread out the wear and tear. Yes, have them become ambidextrous

[@TTSetters]

My son started pitching and I'm extremely aware of this. If you have kids, and they are playing you NEED to enforce a regiment of training and rest. We warm up, dynamic stretching etc and toss the ball for about 10 minutes. When he starts pitching for practice, he gets a hard count of 50 and he's done for the next two days. We'll still play catch or something mild but no full wind up pitching motions allowed. You as a parent have to enforce some rules, or it's going to get out of hand. In little league, they get (minor c) hard pitch counts of 50, and 2 full days rest. If you had a game on tues and thur, if you hit 50 on tues then you can't pitch on thursday. That's the league rules and on the surface it sounds great. The problem here is kids start playing in multiple leages, and have overlapping days where they pitch several days in a row. Don't let them do this, you are only hurting them in the long run even though right now it 'seems fine' TJohns is a creeper.

[@hyper8648]

Bruh I had to pitch 3 days in a row and probably 60 per game, so I threw around 150-180 pitches in 3 days with minimal rest. Now I have to get therapy because of overworking.

[@griffinphillips761]

because they play 100 games a summer starting at the age of like 7

[@sw120]

Griffin Phillips at 16 from March to August I don't even play that many games

[@nofurtherwest3474]

I didn't let my kid play travel ball. Just fall ball and a couple camps. Now he's 9 and doing spring ball. But he also does a lot of soccer. I know 2 kids that did travel ball at age 7/8 and they just quit baseball and they were good players. I just don't see the rush. They can play wiffle ball / t-ball / etc for a couple years and develop their fundamentals and coordination. I think 9 is a good time to start kid pitch little league.

[@mikemcgreggor4596]

Bryce is doing fine with his surgery. Dr. Andrews has been there for Bryce thru his entire journey to the end. He is now pitching in College baseball.

[@lllllllllllllllII]

Last name?

[@radiospank]

If anything he will get his education paid for at the cost of a surgery

[@a_riv2722]

I've gotten Tommy John did the rehab correctly but my help has dropped big time. The surgery doesn't work all the time so think about it.

[@a_riv2722]

But my velo has dropped *

[@TheMitmit03]

Your velocity going down is going to happen even if the surgery goes 100% perfectly. Your UCL just isn’t the same as it once was.

[@forrestwebber7007]

TheMitmit03 lol that’s not true at all 😂

[@rogertakahashi6878]

some ppl experienced an increase in speed after the surgery

[@steezyybrah9745]

they say that you should eventually get back to your original velocity. sometimes even higher.

[@Cp-dd6tn]

0:38 hmm I wonder why he needs Tommy john

[@philip4406]

That's a typical thow

[@TwelfthRoot2]

I was thinking the same thing. He looks like Strasburg :/

[@phxnigtmare]

@@philip4406 it is of people who get Tommy john

[@Ryguy-lg2xz]

The problem is they’re using him way too much I think that leagues and traveling teams should set a pitching limit where they can only pitch a certain number

[@scottlouis6116]

I was never taught that motion however lots of pitchers are and those usually get injured. I played in college and I think a motion like tom glavine is much healthier on the arm

[@vbry1599]

A kid at my High School tore his UCL in Wrestling when he got his elbow bent the wrong way (or something like that). He ended up having Tommy John Surgery (he was Seventeen at the time) after being in a cast/sling for like two months because he had also dislocated his elbow and he was hoping to avoid surgery for his UCL. Nevertheless he underwent Tommy John surgery about two months after the original injury and was in a cast/sling, then a sling, and then a “robot arm thing” for like the rest of the school year (original injury happened in December, surgery in February). 🤷🏼‍♀️ He was in some of my classes and my grade so I saw him pretty much everyday.

[@logandaniels4881]

This is all because kids are playing AAU baseball way too much and playing baseball and putting strain on their arm pitching a hundred pitches a weekend throwing curve balls that absolutely putting more stress on an arm than a kid that age should be able to take

[@jacksonvance7404]

Logan Daniels breaking balls put less stress on your arm than a fastball though. Question the old school ways. Read about the motus sleeve. It’ll be worth your time

[@logandaniels4881]

Jackson Vance yes but still putting your hand spin in an unnatural way like that is definitely not good for a child that young you should wait until you're at least 15 to throw a pitch like that

[@jacksonvance7404]

Logan Daniels that’s just absurd. Why 15? Who decided this perfect motion? A true breaking ball is just a fastball with a different wrist position.

[@logandaniels4881]

Jackson Vance 15 because the later the better then your arm is strong enough to handle the stress of a curveball

[@jacksonvance7404]

Logan Daniels that’s eyewash bro. Breaking balls aren’t the issue. Lack of on ramping to a program and inadequate warmup recovery and arm care are.

[@braxtonlombardi7185]

Its because kids don't throw correctly

[@bwisls616]

braxton lombardi that’s really not the reason

[@mikeyp134]

It's because they're overthrowing

[@gaylegojones1524]

Michael Perry there actually isn’t one certain reason that this happens there are many including non proper throwing motion, not using your legs enough while pitching, short arm pitching, and most importantly using breaking balls especially curve balls to early

[@Tomb413]

Dr Andrews stated the reason. Once you throw past 90mph the UCL goes past the breaking point. AKA TJ surgery incoming.

[@mikeyp134]

treston pritchett true. But a lot of kids don't have good form until they've played a while. And throwing them too much puts too much strain on the arm that they're already stressing due to bad mechanics. Coaches need to teach how to throw with your lower body from day one so we don't have to worry about our kids blowing their arm out at age 14. Also, the kids in the LLWS have great form, but many of them end up hurting themselves due to over exertion. The small tears that are caused by throwing need time to heal before they are compounded and eventually snap. 👍

[@ACMC14]

Lol remember Matt Lauer. Hahaha

[@shanewhitefeather6298]

He's the pervert with the "locking door" button, right?

[@Spritegod07]

Why the 11 year old have bad speaking

[@johndurrwachter9990]

Never thought I’d have to have tj but here we are 😭

[@brendansantiago5609]

This is exactly what happened to me my coach did not protect me I would throw 120 pitches then play shortstop then pitch again within days but it was legal because the rule in my state with pitch count is you can play the field the next day no matter how many pitches you threw the day before

[@heresdaddy3142]

Brendan Santiago those coaches never protected us.

[@BP-1972]

Adults are ruining this game. Practicing 5 days a week all year long? WTF is wrong with people. Adults are pressuring these kids to preform at to high of a level. Everyone thinks Johnny will be a pro, get real people.

[@unoqualunque5484]

Don't pitch too much, after a start rest 4 days, it's that simple There are plenty of list of how much a pitcher should throw a day with different ages Edit: 5:08 they show it

[@PettyClipper]

look at the pound of makeup on his moms face lmfao

[@goodokay892]

That's me Brendon

[@brendonnorris6831]

Good Okay NO Im Brendon

[@highlightgr8nes]

NO IM BRENDON

[@ryankirk7707]

My mom was neighbors with Tommy John when she was a kid 😂

[@Kalel93739]

Ryan Kirk what’s funny about that?

[@ryankirk7707]

I don’t know it’s just ironic

[@jadendubecky4130]

3:28 "We're very careful" yeah right.

[@yoyoyo8749]

you don’t get it, it’s not something they can control sometimes it just happens because he doesn’t have proper throwin mechanics

[@lllllllllllllllII]

Brist Edits naw they look like the parents the have got to win the $6 trophie

[@evanm2076]

I had tommy John when I was 11, learn to throw and lay off curve balls, it’s not worth it

[@Ryguy-lg2xz]

evan M I think that these kids and parents get delusional by thinking that their kid will go to the majors

[@AlyseFatality]

These parents also need to look into stem cell treatments and platelet rich plasma injections to help heal their kids injuries rather than surgeries. Once you have an operation on a part of your body like that, it doesn’t matter how much rehab you do for it, it will never be 💯 again.

[@cadenhottman835]

I tore my mcl and I had to go through physical therapy and was told I wouldn’t play again then I became the best player on my team 5 months later

[@jonesjonesey767]

It’s because kids are not strong enough to throw as hard as they do

[@redsballer1904]

Jones Jonesey this🙌🏼

[@seanchristian7677]

Jones Jonesey no it’s the technique in the way their throwing if you don’t know don’t comment about it

[@ugotdroppedoff8789]

When your 5’3 136 pounds it’s easy to throw 60

[@ckleb7358]

sean christian some people are born with stronger ligaments.

[@seanchristian7677]

Ckleb doesn’t mean they can’t mess up

[@phoeberushton9845]

I have to get a surgery, I’m 14 and play softball 4-8 times a week. I’ve dislocated my shoulder 5 times and I won’t be able to play for 4 months after surgery.

[@danieldelgado766]

They throw curve balls

[@fillobetto7743]

These parents that think their child is the next Clayton Kershaw so they pound Baseball into the child’s lifestyle, to much of one thing can burn you out mentally and physically. Allow your children to play any and all sports if you want your child to be a good athlete, also helps to develop skills that could actually help them improve in Baseball.

[@shanewhitefeather6298]

Is that guy on the far right the pervert? It's at 0:09

[@vbry1599]

A kid at my High School tore his UCL in Wrestling after getting his elbow bent the wrong way (or something like that) and he ended up having Tommy John Surgery. 🤷🏼‍♀️ He was Seventeen at the time so right in the middle of that 15-19 age rage but not a Baseball player! 😂

[@KB-jk9wk]

V Bry N I’m late but I but I did the same thing and I was at a wrestling meet. Everybody thinks it’s only a baseball/softball surgery it’s not

[@gotch7126]

Good luck on that dream kid!!!... hope ya make it... I got a 9yr old with the love for the game and that same dream.

[@nofurtherwest3474]

hey it's 5 years later, how's he doing now?

[@bordem4090]

The main problem is that these kids don't have the right mechanics; their coaches don't teach them to stand and throw the right way to save their elbows and ligaments. It's honestly so destructive not only to them, but to the sport of baseball.

[@syfepig5819]

Yeah cause they’re dad is having them throw curveballs every pitch

[@esaumoreno7405]

Pitching mechanics and overthrowing arms out is the problem and some times coaches or leagues not keeping up with pitch count rules to follow

[@jacksoncrunkilton4669]

I'm 11 and I threw 97 pitches the other night lol

[@MyHero2012]

I like the mom with an 11 year old who needs Tomi John surgery when she said they monitor his pitches when they obviously don’t or do and don’t care

[@jacegladden8725]

Me being a Student Athletic Trainer and learning anatomy and sports medicine side of everything...it is so stupid that you see the parents and coach’s pushing these young athletes I blame the parents because your child as a 50% chance to make it to major leagues there not pro’s the young kids let them do what they want to do...I also blame the coach’s because I hate seeing them have radar guns to see if that high schooler can hit in the 90’s high school athletes should stay at 80 not 90...80 is the perfect pitching speed for a high school athlete...this makes me so mad 😡

[@bgjones973]

Jace Gladden I had to quite playing when I was 15 back in ‘99. I messed up my rotator cup. That injury was all my fault. When I would throw, I always threw my hardest especially when I played center field. I was also a pitcher and catcher so I over used my arm. I didn’t want to do surgery because I didn’t want to re-injury myself by doing the same thing.

[@seanchristian7677]

Jace Gladden my friend Liam Norris is 16 and he throws 95 and is the 4th pitcher in the state his arm doesn’t mess up all you need is the correct technique and you’ll be fine it’s not the parents it’s the coaches not teaching these kids the right way to pitch

[@michellehamilton2124]

Where did ypu get the stat the 50 percent of kids that play baseball make the majors. It is more like 5 percent, that might even be to high

[@bentaylor3579]

When you titled yourself "student," that immediately tells me you have no clue what you're talking about. Then you went on typing and verified it. A radar gun does not cause a UCL to go out. Go out and actually talk to people in the industry and then form an opinion sir.

[@jacegladden8725]

Ben Taylor look dude it was just my opinion on the video yes I am a student but I’m learning and before typing that comment I talked to my trainer and doctors that are in Industry and they say it’s the parents and coach’s and I’m betting your a coach I can also understand it because I also play baseball and I am a pitcher I had coach’s push me to throw harder so don’t be a Titty baby about a little opinion that I had I think you should also go check the first amendment thank you sir have a nice day😁

[@oldmanballer5088]

Too much baseball, they dont play other sports. Parents think they need to specialize for one spprt soooo stupod.

[@hunterarmstrong4898]

oldman baller50 great point

[@jaydondennis6441]

oldman baller50 no, I honestly made the choice to give up basketball and football. I need my focus to be on one sport.

[@oldmanballer5088]

Jaydon Dennis do you play year round or do you take a break. If you’re going to do just one then make sure you take 2-3 months off to rest so you don’t over use. If you are good in more than one and like more than one I hate to see you give one up. How old are you?

[@bub7097]

"too much baseball" lmao

[@jaydondennis6441]

oldman baller50 sorry this is a bit late, I’m 14 and I play baseball 9/12 months of the year, basketball interferes with baseball and baseball is the priority for me

[@sambray1486]

Yeah, 'cause kids have been throwing curveballs since they were 3.

[@MrRobVision]

It's because kids consistently overthrow. form and tempo go out the window. Everyone forgets that pitching is not blowing it by the guy, it's catching him guessing and getting him out on his front foot. Dont even Get me started in why the nastiest pitch In baseball is a change-up! Yeah they curve too kids. They r filthy. And u won't even need to destroy your arm

[@michellehamilton2124]

Your funny

[@michellehamilton2124]

Rob C ur funny

[@longlivex4460]

Knuckle curve is just as nasty and you dont mess your arm up

[@bub7097]

you can throw a great changeup by rotating your wrist outward when you're about to release the ball, it works every time

[@GabGotti3]

Would never trust a doctor with that accent, sorry. There doing things in Europe way more advanced than this.

[@micahhaynes7205]

Why does aroldas Chapman not have 40 tommy Johns

[@highlightgr8nes]

Micah Haynes I think it's just luck

[@lllllllllllllllII]

Strong tendons and ligaments

[@erikshen1107]

Baseball is NOT A LIFETIME SPORT!!!

[@hayden3817]

For 11 year old to tear a part of his elbow is insane he must be pitching such a stupid way that puts way to much stress on the elbow

[@Tec-fv2xb]

Hayden G prob pitching every game

[@ckleb7358]

His bodies growing his arm probably hasn’t caught up to his size of him so his arm is weak

[@zachlastname993]

Really bad mechanics

[@mmcgahn5948]

One TJ surgery as a teen… time to find another hobby

[@ckleb7358]

I’m the Ace throwing about 100 pitches a week but my teammate who closes and throws about 50 pitches a week. I had no injuries. He torn his main ligament. Correlation Doesn’t Mean Causation.

[@bub7097]

Wow man you're the ace? can i get your autograph or what

[@SwagMaster824]

@@bub7097 😂😂😂

[@shanewhitefeather6298]

The Chart at: 5:07 is VERY IMPORTANT

[@lllllllllllllllII]

Lmao I threw 90+ every game back then

[@JediFight]

Those number of pitches are way too high for kids. When I see a 14 year old pitcher throwing over 60 pitches in a game, I fell badly for them. It’s too much and for completely unimportant 14u baseball.

[@adriand4024]

Hey 👋 lets hope he has a good surgery if you egree

[@adriand4024]

❤️💞📱🧡🧡🧡🧡💙💙⚾️⚾️⚾️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️🏀🎾🎱🏸

[@bigbubbaethan5429]

My coach doesn’t allow us to throw curveballs, mainly certain fastballs, changeups, knuckle balls.

[@octavioaugusto3733]

I don´t live in the USA and my country doesn't really have baseball, but I'm very curious about it... why kids now are having more of those elbow injuries? It's only the overplaying? I mean, kids in the 70's and 80's played less baseball? Anything to do with technique differences through the decades? Maybe some old school baseball fan can help me out. Greetings from Brazil.

[@KB-jk9wk]

I have to get tommy john surgery from wrestling after it was extended too far. I can’t wrestle for a year. I didn’t tear my ligament I ruptured it (which means it’s completely broken)

[@lsw734]

I wonder if the rise in kids/teens getting injured is just incorrect technique and a lack of taking care of yourself afterwards? Or if it’s just one of those 50/50 situations where it just comes with the sport..or both lol. I don’t pitch so I’m genuinely curious.

[@mexicanusrex9418]

Duh, this is what happens when you teach kids how to throw curveballs and forkballs at age 3.

[@christianarrizon9796]

Thats shame 17 year old kid throwing over 90 very sad

[@Duhsty0]

I got that

[@thermex8217]

I ain't gonna be the guy looking for attention but I got this surgery cause I broke my elbow and it was never play any sports again or get it I'm 11

[@joshkupetz443]

For the highschooler his problem is his arm is lagging way behind cause his frontside is flying open and his glove needs to come to his chest not hip. 2years late

[@ModernKillJoy]

My first 3 years of high school baseball, we never had a pitching counts like this my until senior year. My school never had a lot of people that played baseball and the kids that knew, never played on an actual team so needless to say they started me at least 2 out of the three games we played every week. At the end of my junior year of high school I threw over a thousand pitches and we only had about 20 ish games in the season. Finally they introduced the pitch count limits and rest days in my senior year but by that time my arm was pretty messed up. I remember some games my arm would be shaking from how bad it was hurting but we didn’t have anyone else good to pitch so my coach just kept starting me every other game. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@aaronstidham9802]

Many pitchers over do it and many also throw incorrectly putting increased strain on the shoulder and elbiw. Ive been through elbow pain but i now kno how to throw properly

[@RobertoGarcia-sr3ee]

1:09...it’s a ligament that was torn, not a tendon lady 😑😑

[@ryan.b1861]

Did you know that when you throw a 90 mile an hour pitch your outing 80 Newton pounds of torque on your arm which is like holing a mini bike on your ligaments.

[@coletonk1401]

Well then somethings wrong with corey seager

[@110phighlights3]

Because kids throw curveballs at like 7

[@awburd4889]

Stretch and ice that’s it

[@Cp-dd6tn]

AWBurd and hella ibuprofen

[@kellan9616]

Bruh what, no. Icing is terrible, and just stretching is not doing much for the overall health of your arm.

[@reidpakkebier7782]

I broke my elbow to u don’t need to spend an hour on a decision it’s if u want to play baseball again or no

[@bransenlee701]

I had it when I was 15 and can barely throw a football now..

[@bobbybrinkley9988]

Its throwing curveballs

[@coencardelli6869]

I got tommy John because of football then baseball

[@rideonpostman]

You throw with your Legs not your arm.

[@javers2493]

I had the same thing with my arm but no surgery

[@my_sideproject3815]

Too much stress on the arm, not enough rest.

[@leonardopena6774]

this is why i don’t pitch.

[@seamusosullivan6128]

He looks like Trea Turner.

[@KA-om9oz]

Comes down to parents should protect the kids

[@servicecommunication3505]

My 13 year old friend had Tommy John on his 13th birthday. He could throw like 75 at 12. He blew his arm out.

[@lllllllllllllllII]

Lmao

[@charleswyzukovicz7274]

Yea cubs won

[@thenukeman3657]

Because so many kids take it way too seriously. I know for some people it’s their life, and it is for me too, but too many guys are throwing way too fast or are throwing too many offspeed pitches and just messing up their arms bad

[@lllllllllllllllII]

Off speed is good

[@mac_leal]

Many kids and teens are tommy Juan is because they are throwing curveballs and sliders torquing the arm. On a side note, they will hurt themselves even more if they don’t do the proper exercises the build the muscle to be able to throw these pitches.

[@bub7097]

curves shouldn't even affect the elbow if you throw it right :/ its more the wrist action and the pull down of your wrist at that bent position, but sliders are a different story

[@garrygoers3509]

What are the odds that Tommy John had Tommy John surgery?

[@SkyTheLimit106]

It’s literally named after Tommy John

[@santanasmith883]

I was told to finish the inning when I threw my arm out... smh never pitched the same after fearing I would do it again

[@tylerhronec9109]

Santana Smith you should’ve walked off the field. The same thing happened to me and I refused to hurt myself more. I played the next few games at 1st base and barely used my arm so I healed pretty fast. I’m trying to find good exercises for the elbow

[@andrewschulzsd]

Arkantaw vurriors baysebaw team

[@jackmcg8310]

This is my first year in baseball and I am 17 am I at risk even if I don’t pitch

[@Xd-kf8pb]

Troy that is false because I play infield and don’t pitch and I injured mines at 13

[@jm-gj2ho]

How does an 11 year old do this???

[@LD-me4qv]

999 like

[@bub7097]

tommy juan

[@camsmith2079]

I’m 16 and have already needed Tommy John surgery twice. I could throw 85+ easily at 14 years old but now I’m completely out.

[@MistaBeasto]

Cam Smith nah bro Im 15 and I gun it at high 70's Your statement is false

[@camsmith2079]

AZ cardinals high 70s at 15 is pretty average where I live

[@andrewburris4131]

Im 12 and I should be throwing 85 pitcho and my coach made me throw 109 in a day my arm is still tired

[@SkyTheLimit106]

1. No 12 year old can throw 85mph or 109mph 2. Your making no sense

[@bakeryarbrough3966]

@@SkyTheLimit106 he meant 85 pitches and 109 pitches

[@whywhy3289]

A lot of these kids mechanics are trash and lead to these injuries

[@bub7097]

well they're young and dont have the full capabilities or the strength yet, so if its happening at that young of an age, they're either over pitching or just getting unlucky

[@whywhy3289]

BubblerRL and that's is kinda what I mean by mechanics. These young kids are so focused on throwing hard with their arms that they do not build bodywide strength and coordination necessary to throw at high velocity safely.

[@brendanb2517]

It’s called having a drive to play and do what you love but sometimes it hurts you

[@gmrrnracr]

What a terrible parenting choice to leave it up to a 16 year old what his future in baseball would be! Real easy to take the pressure off of the parent and leave it up to a kid! Ignore what any doctor is telling you and let a 16 year old decide! Pathetic

[@TheCmaniac15]

gmrrnracr a 16 year old is a man. And should be allowed to make decisions about HIS body

[@radiospank]

@@TheCmaniac15 sure is a man playing travel ball on mommy and daddy’s dime, what a man lol

[@TheCmaniac15]

@@radiospank I don’t remember making this comment 2 years ago.. While a 16 year old might not be a “man” I still do believe that a person of consenting age should be able to make their own decisions about their body.

[@discjockeydiscgolf2251]

Sad to see young kids ruin their health and parents pushing their children because of their own inferiority complex. Play disc golf yo

[@moron5716]

Disc Jockey Disc Golf disc golf is for nerds

[@discjockeydiscgolf2251]

And for hippies, and the less fortunate, and nature lovers, and people who want to get some light exercise- we don't like to exclude anybody, oh and I almost forgot, it's also for people who don't want to destroy their bodies and let grown adults project insecurities on developing minds and bodies. Can't forget that one.

[@zachthomas7810]

The injury affects people in any walk of life, it’s not just about the sport.

[@hayden3817]

Disc Jockey Disc Golf that was probabky the stupidest thing I've ever heard

[@m.lbaseball1405]

It’s not ruining him at all. It’s not like he can’t ever play again after 12 months they’re good to go and a theory is that tommy john makes your arm stronger

[@tugotiger]

in the first game of my 2018 season i was the starting pitcher and my arm got really sore (im 12 and throw 55mph)

[@MistaBeasto]

FA5T im possible im 15 and I throw high 60's and I accurately throw a splitter if I have too Your statement is false

[@jackstrand3181]

AZ cardinals bruh I'm 13 and throw mid to high 70s with a nasty change and knucklecurve

[@hyper8648]

He’s probably just overworked, or throwing wrong.

[@tugotiger]

@@hyper8648 I still pitch fine, my arm doesn't get sore anymore, I mostly pitch in relief though.

[@hyper8648]

Or just didn’t have any muscle at the time. Now you’re 14 or something so that’s probably not a problem.

[@yunghanhuang8188]

所以上肩的秀斗難拿大量金手套 傳球快電視上看很爽 但要丟162場真的負擔太大 能那5次以上的秀斗 大多有練好下勾 側傳 來減少肩膀負擔

[@user-oo4xu4by3w]

I never threw off speed, but I’ve needed Tommy John since I was an 8th grader.

[@lllllllllllllllII]

Do you play with a blown out arm?😂😂

[@rochestermonarchs44]

The problem is these pitching restrictions. We are babying our arms today and not getting them used to the possible stress they could go through later in careers.

[@vs.7295]

Ryan Winn That is just wrong

[@ThaProphet]

VS Knives - I agree with him. What would you contribute the sudden rise of injures to recently then? When I played pitchers threw just as hard and injures like these were almost unheard of. Now with the strict pitching limits that they must abide by the injuries have skyrocketed.

[@vs.7295]

Deathless Its the complete opposite everyone I play with Has around 1-2 weeks off a year from baseball Its not the pitching limits, its the playing winter through winter always throwing a baseball. Throwing motion does not strengthen the ucl just puts stress on it. Todays youth plays 125 games on average more a year then the 2000s

[@rochestermonarchs44]

VS Knives 125 games more per year... not a chance. You’re saying kids play, on average, a third of a year more games? And you’re right the throwing motion doesn’t strengthen a UCL however it can strengthen small muscles around the elbow and in the shoulder than can help support ligaments. Also if pitching mechanics were taught with fundamentally stronger beginnings, kids would be throwing properly with higher arm slots which puts less stress on a ucl overall and more stress on your shoulder, core and Lats.