Tommy Lasorda spats with John McSherry over fan interference

07/10/1988 - Lasorda argues with McSherry over the placement of the baserunners on Shelby’s Ground-Rule Double.
Original Video: • 1988 Pirates at Dodgers
#1988 #losangeles #double

[@dalethelander3781]

John McSherry. One of the greats. Rest in power.

[@bobma6342]

Power?

[@ericradford2142]

RIP John McSherry and Tommy Lasorda

[@darrendoyle568]

I’m sure their arguing still up there lol

[@johnnylafriegas677]

I can imagine Vin Scully in the booth: “Fertilizer…fertilizer” God rest his soul

[@jimistreets1]

Tommy was made for Hollywood. I went to a lot of games back then and the fans would love it when he waddled out to argue with the umpires. Sometimes he even got a standing ovation! Good times….

[@robertshank2928]

Omg the ump takes so much from Tommy and doesn’t even kick him out. Well done!

[@rayray4192]

Little girls say Oh my God. The umpire ( not “ ump”) has a name. John McSherry.

[@ObscureBalls]

Dawg it’s not that serious ^^

[@WB-1]

LaSorda was a belligerent jerk

[@thegreatrenaldo7718]

@@rayray4192 Imagine being so angry in life that you have to get your kicks in the youtube comments. You must lead a fascinating life

[@rayray4192]

@@thegreatrenaldo7718 imagine a person being so narcissistic and egotistical that he calls himself the “ great renaldo.”

[@Robsay01]

McSherry will always be remembered for those of us who grew up watching BB during the day. Bruce Fremming and others too. They helped make BB fun to watch.

[@TL2354]

Bruce Froemming

[@frankcarone6]

rest in peace beautiful JOHN MCSHERRY

[@terrytitus5291]

LaSorda never said the magic word as Vinnie would say,he didn't get ejected for as much as he argued!

[@mysticakhenaton1701]

SOMETIMES Lasorda would come out of the dugout just to get some T.v time. to say HELLO to his mother. Tommy would give/or send her a gesture, only they knew.

[@michaelduncan232]

This is good ole fashion baseball!!! Lots of respect for these two .

[@johngomez7314]

Dutch Rennert! STRIKE ONE!! He yelled the balls and strikes. Got the crowd into it

[@ExMachina70]

My god I loved Lasorda since the days of Fernando Valenzuela. He stands up there, half the size of the ump, yelling as though he had a foot over him.

[@frederickgriffith7004]

Yep.McSherry was the size of an ocean liner.Lasorda a tugboat 😂.

[@jimistreets1]

John McSherry dying on the baseball field was one of the saddest things I’ve ever seen.

[@nashierosenberg2200]

What children the umpires are these days. Lasorda would have been gone before even getting a word out in todays baseball.

[@davidmata9952]

It's the PC culture that Selig and Manfred have instituted. Umpires shielding players and managers from other umpires, you can't argue ejections or warnings anymore. I bet Lasorda would get suspended today for his confrontation with the Philly Phanatic.

[@socialumpire]

It’s because no one wants to be told they suck at there job by someone who doesn’t even no the rule book themselves. Umpires don’t have time for that horse pucky

[@XXelpollodiabloXX]

That's because they were just talking about where to go for dinner. McSherry wanted Mexican, and Lasorda wanted Italian.

[@BAYAREA-kd1ig]

When boomers make everything political……..yawn

[@sherryhannah9262]

@@XXelpollodiabloXXreally????…are you serious????????!!!!!!

[@user-jv9qz2bu1r]

like the swing - BTW Tommy finally met an ump with a bigger belly

[@javtimestwo]

Tommy is out of line. For as much praise people give him, Tommy also was out of line often with the umpires. This is another case of that. I didn't see any reason for Tommy to get ejected but the argument was pointless.

[@rayray4192]

Tommy was profane. The argument was not pointless. The umpires kicked the shit out of the call. Tommy was right. Reggie had no rights as a retired runner, and intentionally hindered the defense. The umpire says,” Tommy, it has to be intentional.” Yeah, absolutely correct, interference with a thrown ball must be intentional. Jackson cheated. He absolutely intentionally interfered with the throw. Batter/ runner should have been called out, and if that was not the third out, all runner’s returned to their time of pitch base. LaSorda infuriated fans in The City because fans would boo him and he would blow kisses to them. Candlestick Park in south city had no way for the visitors to get to the clubhouse except walk to the right field Giants bullpen and exit the field through a small door. When Tommy would get ejected fans would boo him the entire walk ( slow, because he ate a lot of linguini with a rich clam sauce) to the clubhouse tunnel, and Tommy loved it- he blew kisses and laughed- he was a showman; he was good for baseball, and I rooted for him to lose every game he managed.

[@dalethelander3781]

​@@rayray4192You might want to clarify that was the 1977 World Series.

[@dalethelander3781]

Earl Weaver was out-of-line arguing with 1st base ump Bill Haller in 1980. "You're here for only one reason! To fuck us good!" 5 pitches into the game.

[@rayray4192]

@@dalethelander3781 what? I’m drinking hand crafted stout beer ar a sports bar.

[@AlyssaFowler-j4n]

Surprised he wasn't ejected

[@raymundotorres6905]

Man, I miss Tommy Lasorda!

[@rayray4192]

I miss Tommy and Vin, and I’m a Giants fan.

[@rayray4192]

You don’t have to go home, but you can’t stay here.

[@mattf.1233]

Lasorda was too busy eating pasta . The fan touched the ball. Not sure why he’s so irate.

[@ObscureBalls]

I thought McSherry made a perfectly reasonable call. I think Lasorda just liked being a performer sometimes for the sake of the crowd.

[@oscarjonesxxx2893]

@@ObscureBalls lasorda was a buffoon.

[@rayray4192]

@@ObscureBalls John would take a chair and place it behind the mound at umpire school, and place a student in the chair and have him call the plays in the field from the chair. “ Get back, get back, get back to the back of the mound.

[@garygemmell3488]

He wanted it ruled a triple, which is the rarest type of base hit there is. Usually, when there is a triple it is hit into an area of the park where there are many angles created by the walls and the ball bounces around crazily. Typically, they are hit into the right field corner which is farthest from third base.

[@rayray4192]

@@garygemmell3488 umpire must take into consideration the speed of the runner. 90% that’s a double.

[@WPUpioneer]

I was actually waiting for, and expecting McSherry to toss Lasorda. I would have.

[@sidstorch2615]

I think it's Lasodra.

[@robertbrown7470]

So what was Lasorda arguing anyway? Does anyone know...

[@ObscureBalls]

He wanted a Ground-Rule Triple instead of a Double.

[@robertbrown7470]

Did the umpires allow the runner from 2nd to score?

[@ObscureBalls]

Sorry I didn’t see this comment earlier. The Runner from Second Base did Score on this play.

[@kevintucker466]

Lasorda could bully umps around like McSherry who was not as confrontational compared to Bob Davidson, Tom Hallion, Joe West, Jerry Crawford, Bill Hohn . . . all umpired throughout the 80s and 90s

[@note2owns]

Poor John McSherry would die a little less then 8 years later

[@rayray4192]

Sad and tragic. Cincinnati on opening day.

[@RandalC-hy5ke]

Cry for me

[@matthewscott2987]

Notice how John didn't throw him out for getting in his face and arguing the call? That's back when umpires were good. They all suck now.

[@davidthieroff9452]

Seriously. What the heck is Lasorda arguing? It is clear as day.

[@TL2354]

Nothing gets by you, huh

[@dalethelander3781]

They didn't rely on replays then.

[@WB-1]

LaSorda was a jerk, a bully. Whining always about everything

[@Blt-rr2lm]

Isn’t the rule now just second base? Don’t blame the fan. You put seats there, that’s on you.

[@robertbrown7470]

It's umpire judgment. Say a dog runs on the field and grabs a base hit and runs all over the field. You place the dogs - I mean runners where you think they would have ended up. So it would be ruled an inside the park home run and all runners score!!! (just kidding on that)

[@dalethelander3781]

And the fence at Dodger Stadium is a lot higher now.

[@SWog617]

Fan interference should ALWAYS go AGAINST the home team. On a judgment call, why should they benefit from the actions of their fans?

[@uncouthboy8028]

Back when ushers wore short skirts.

[@dalethelander3781]

And straw boater hats.

[@robertbrown7470]

Is this the famous incident where the umpire decks Lasorda, knocks him out cold, and he has to be taken to the hospital?

[@ObscureBalls]

I haven’t heard that one, but I believe You.

[@robertbrown7470]

@@ObscureBalls Should have added "lol"

[@TheCdecisneros]

Didn't he have the heart attack?

[@oneandahalfrailfanners8719]

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[@oneandahalfrailfanners8719]

Opening Day Expos vs. Reds 1996

[@dalethelander3781]

​@@oneandahalfrailfanners8719Back when the Reds had the privelege of always opening at home one day before the rest of MLB in recognition of being the first professional baseball team.

[@michaelgriffith4110]

Im shocked john didnt go down here with that arguement

[@rayray4192]

No way that’s a triple. What is Tommy whining about?

[@MeneTekelUpharsin]

Tommy sometimes would bet that he would come out and argue X amount of times before the game started.

[@robertbrown7470]

I thought it would have been an inside the park home run and all runners should score!

[@driver3605]

Oh for the GOOD OLD DAYS when a player or manager could argue with an umpire without being thrown out and fined. Umpires today are part of the reason I don't watch MLB anymore.

[@bostoncityofchampions6581]

Two things...I don't believe you don't watch MLB anymore if you still come on YT and watch MLB videos. Second, umpires ejected managers and players all the time even back in the "good old days". Looking at things through those nostalgia goggles can be a dangerous thing. Enjoy the modern world, and all that it provides you.

[@jamesrivera4947]

"These ARE the 'good old days.' " -- Carly Simon 🎶

[@Mario-cv5el]

What that umpire the one that croaked in Cincinnati in 1996??

[@rayray4192]

Arguments make the owners money. It’s 2023 and most fans are over argumentative bullshit.

[@MeneTekelUpharsin]

As much as liked seeing Lasorda and Pineilla argue the times has changed. Most people today don't want to see that.