Shake tables are way more complex than I thought

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Tom Scott

Tom Scott

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@TomScottGo
@TomScottGo Жыл бұрын
I'm a bit worried about whether the shaking comes across on camera. If you can use a big screen, please do! It's almost impossible to be close enough to see the shaking AND static reference points AND to have enough movement that it shows up on camera. But the noise? The noise, at least, sells it for me.
@XAVlER444
@XAVlER444 Жыл бұрын
Yes so am I
@arandomguy1471
@arandomguy1471 Жыл бұрын
Big fan, keep making these videos!
@purpleotteruk
@purpleotteruk Жыл бұрын
Yup - shaking looks good here ❤
@HMM-0
@HMM-0 Жыл бұрын
🇽🇰
@untamedbacon
@untamedbacon Жыл бұрын
Watching an object that big move that quickly certainly sells it on a normal monitor. This is one of your best videos showing scale, both of the shake and of the systems responsible for it.
@leogrievous
@leogrievous Жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see the engineer go from "explaining to a stupid journalist like a child" to "geeking out with Tom about fluid dynamics"
@TactfulWaggle
@TactfulWaggle Жыл бұрын
when he realizes tom is alittle more knowledgable than your average journalist (just a little)
@ImaginaryChannel
@ImaginaryChannel Жыл бұрын
I couldn't understand everything they explained, but I'm glad there's Tom and undoubtedly a big online audience here who appreciates this complexity and the chance to geek out about the challenging scale at which this system operates. It's nice to find videos where such complexity isn't avoided just because it's not understandable for everyone. As someone less technically educated I had my enjoyment watching them being excited about this.
@althejazzman
@althejazzman Жыл бұрын
Such a relief to not have science dumbed down. Dumb people don't want to watch science videos anyway.
@philipcampbell5646
@philipcampbell5646 Жыл бұрын
To be fair it's probably not "stupid journalist" so much as stupid viewers of journalist.
@AdmiralBurningskull
@AdmiralBurningskull Жыл бұрын
He was probably pleased as punch to be talking about the shake table with someone who actually understood something of the forces involved and could really grasp how COOL his job is.
@QuantumHistorian
@QuantumHistorian Жыл бұрын
Tom trying to remember which one is pitch, roll, and yaw while doing the hand movements is shockingly relatable
@EightThreeEight
@EightThreeEight Жыл бұрын
Also, I finally learned which is which.
@LaughingOrange
@LaughingOrange Жыл бұрын
Pitch, front up/down Roll, side up/down yaw, front sideways
@iabervon
@iabervon Жыл бұрын
Pitch versus roll for something that isn't supposed to travel and is wider than it is long is extra hard. Sure, roll is sides up and down, but are "the sides" your wrist and fingertips or your thumb and pinky when you're talking about the shake table?
@bellutta
@bellutta Жыл бұрын
The way I remember Roll Pitch and Yaw is that Roll is rotation around the X axis, Pitch around Y and Yaw around Z.
@whyamiwastingmytimeonthis
@whyamiwastingmytimeonthis Жыл бұрын
@@bellutta now I just gotta remember which axis is which!
@adamblessing8528
@adamblessing8528 Жыл бұрын
As a project engineer, who is rarely allowed to demo anything on site, i feel the pain of the engineer who had to use the u-turn and was most likely told "look, you can't demo that wall and we're not giving you the budget to build a new building. Just make it work in this area."
@TomLuTon
@TomLuTon Жыл бұрын
Demo as in 'demolish', not 'demonstrate', for those like me who just spent 30 seconds trying to figure out how you demo a wall
@MiseFreisin
@MiseFreisin Жыл бұрын
given the pressure of what's in the pipes, it's presumably less a question of "can't demo that wall" and more "really, _really_ shouldn't demo that wall, please"
@nikkiofthevalley
@nikkiofthevalley Жыл бұрын
​​@@MiseFreisin You could probably drain the network, but it would be really annoying to do it in a controlled way, and it would take ages.
@Alacritous
@Alacritous Жыл бұрын
I used to design and build automation systems for oil wells in Nothern Alberta. The pain is real. Even for NEW installations the automation is an afterthought so we were always the last to be called and had to work around anything else that was on site because they NEVER made any allowances for control circuits and instrumentation placement. Let alone coming along later and adding or changing something that was already in place and having to run wire in places where it was never meant to go.
@typemasters2871
@typemasters2871 Жыл бұрын
@@TomLuTon and here’s the new wall model, it can block wind, it’s water proof against water pressure as high as a garden hose, it can withstand a human body being thrown at it, and it can easily be painted on without the paint sliding off completely
@SeratoninOni
@SeratoninOni Жыл бұрын
Tom losing his mind over a u-turn in the pipes is the clip I would show somebody to describe his personality
@apveening
@apveening Жыл бұрын
He understands the significance of a u-turn in those pipes.
@mathewng1988
@mathewng1988 Жыл бұрын
Not just a u turn (smooth semi circle), but 2 90⁰ turns for each pipe, into the short end of a T no less.
@Pithlitthedark
@Pithlitthedark Жыл бұрын
Genuine Physics reaction!
@jlammetje
@jlammetje Жыл бұрын
@@mathewng1988 I was more amazed by that T-junction than the U-turn! Weird it wasn’t even mentioned
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 Жыл бұрын
​@@mathewng1988 I think the reason they did that is because of reliability. If they did two long curves it would be more likely to stress out the metal when making the curves, where the smaller curves would be less to worry about. It's technically less efficient, but it's the best option.
@ScottTheBot07
@ScottTheBot07 Жыл бұрын
Tom showing understanding of what the guy is talking about feels very genuine. He’s truly interested.
@XAVlER444
@XAVlER444 Жыл бұрын
Ye
@apveening
@apveening Жыл бұрын
That is one reason for the popularity of his videos.
@Yodah97
@Yodah97 Жыл бұрын
You can also see him applying knowledge he picked up from other videos. Like the water hammer effect he likely researched to talk about that lake that is also a battery. It was quite wholesome.
@kingofthedivan1251
@kingofthedivan1251 Жыл бұрын
The guy himself also looks very interested in telling how it works and I love it
@adrenochrome3853
@adrenochrome3853 Жыл бұрын
This is what makes tom scott videos some of the best om youtube, a genuine interest in the videos he is creating
@SemiHypercube
@SemiHypercube Жыл бұрын
The level of technology needed to simulate an earthquake kinda shows how strong they actually are
@sagetmaster4
@sagetmaster4 Жыл бұрын
And fantastically complex too, double whammy
@hazonku
@hazonku Жыл бұрын
We definitely need that level of engineering just due to the size of our state & the fact we get a little bit of every kind of earthquake there is.
@voxtrongeneraider1970
@voxtrongeneraider1970 Жыл бұрын
If we just want to simulate 1 earthquake it's easy just use explosive, but to make repeated, controlled, and SAFE even after the building tip?, that's what make it need that much of technology
@robertlinke2666
@robertlinke2666 Жыл бұрын
and thats just on the scale of 1 building, not half a country
@mrfishfr
@mrfishfr Жыл бұрын
Earthquakes be like: "Look What They Need To Mimic A Fraction Of Our Power"
@dan_zehner
@dan_zehner Жыл бұрын
I've been part of this project for 7 years, and Koorosh is a good friend. It's great to see this team get recognition from amazing folks like Tom for the fantastic work they do every day to make the world a safer place from earthquakes!
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
While earthquakes can strike anywhere on Earth they are more prevalent in some places than others. So your best bet is to simply stay out of earthquake prone zones. That's worked for me so far.
@Wulthrin
@Wulthrin Жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred same here, though we did have a quake here about 12 years ago. one of the weirdest sensations i've ever felt and i was like 100 miles from the epicenter
@krashd
@krashd Жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred You'd be amazed where they can happen, we can get a three or four pointer here in Scotland once every five years or so. A farmer I know has to go round correcting all of his upturned sheep. No joke.
@valeriepark9444
@valeriepark9444 Жыл бұрын
@@krashd the opposite of cow-tipping, that
@logicandlaughs
@logicandlaughs Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work on this project!
@danielhale1
@danielhale1 Жыл бұрын
I like the video ending on "The next test will commence in 10 minutes". They're really putting that building through the paces. They can casually run a serious earthquake test and then say "oh it's not over, there's aftershocks for like... the next few months". I really like that they have a system in place that allows that level of rigor.
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 Жыл бұрын
They probably have a deadline for the amount of test time they can spend per building. I imagine they have a lot of people who need their buildings to be shaken down.
@philkensebben157
@philkensebben157 Жыл бұрын
@@jwalster9412 "Shaken down". I see what you did there.
@dan_zehner
@dan_zehner Жыл бұрын
@@jwalster9412 can confirm. They have another test right after this one, and a full year of testing booked after that for other projects.
@5th_decile
@5th_decile Жыл бұрын
​@@dan_zehner which company or gov agency runs this facility? Any idea?
@dan_zehner
@dan_zehner Жыл бұрын
@@5th_decile it's a National Science Foundation funded center.
@forthe_mark
@forthe_mark Жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming out, was awesome getting to work with you! For anyone wondering it is just as much fun seeing Tom get excited about a U-turn in person.
@jamesknapp64
@jamesknapp64 Жыл бұрын
You one of the engineers at UC SD there?
@PixelatedPenfold
@PixelatedPenfold Жыл бұрын
@@jamesknapp64 I think he was one of the camera people.
@forthe_mark
@forthe_mark Жыл бұрын
I got to do the filming and drone stuff. But I am also an engineer here (not on the shake table team).
@delta250a
@delta250a Жыл бұрын
That guy was probably the best you have ever interviewed. He loves it and isn't 100% serious like others. Fantastic video all round.
@hazonku
@hazonku Жыл бұрын
You know that when people ask him what he does for a living he says, "I work in rock & roll."
@abydosianchulac2
@abydosianchulac2 Жыл бұрын
He was probably enjoying having a member of the public actually _get_ what they were doing.
@MikeV8652
@MikeV8652 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I was very impressed by the professor.
@dengar96
@dengar96 Жыл бұрын
I'm a bridge engineer myself and I can attest I would love for someone to ask me about bridge design and actually act interested.
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 Жыл бұрын
​@@hazonku "I do the shaky baky but with buildings"
@BenWillock
@BenWillock Жыл бұрын
It's always extra entertaining to see Tom interact with someone he vibes with.
@leow.2162
@leow.2162 Жыл бұрын
The whole thing is just a big vibe machine
@theLazyElf
@theLazyElf Жыл бұрын
This earthquake pun is so lame it physically shakes me to my core.
@nfboogaard
@nfboogaard Жыл бұрын
Richter
@berlinflight_tv
@berlinflight_tv Жыл бұрын
Looks like we found Tom's resonant frequency then.
@500werewolf
@500werewolf Жыл бұрын
"You have to fail safe." That statement alone tells you how crucially important an engineers job is when designing systems of any kind.
@games1004
@games1004 Жыл бұрын
The more difficult thing about designing something (from the video) is knowing what “safe” is. It’s interesting that they can’t just go “emergency stop and re-center!” Also the building resonance “force feedback” on the machine is complicated, with each building having its own feedback.
@carlbutcher2268
@carlbutcher2268 Жыл бұрын
One of the worst rookie mistakes you can make when building *anything* is to create an emergency stop system that just replaces the original problem with a bigger problem.
@breadleymcthicc5444
@breadleymcthicc5444 Жыл бұрын
The test really showed how insane Earthquakes are. A controlled test on a safe building with favorable conditions, and I still am in awe at how terrifying that looked. As Tom put it "I do want to turn and run".
@Dave-rd6sp
@Dave-rd6sp Жыл бұрын
And in a real earthquake you can't stand, so running isn't an option.
@MartinFinnerup
@MartinFinnerup Жыл бұрын
@@Dave-rd6sp You would have trouble standing during one of these too, but no-one is allowed on the platform itself.
@Dave-rd6sp
@Dave-rd6sp Жыл бұрын
@@MartinFinnerup Indeed.
@rkhayden
@rkhayden Жыл бұрын
And that's for a relatively small quake. The displacement in the Kobe earthquake was about 1 metre.
@Appletank8
@Appletank8 Жыл бұрын
Maybe one could try rolling really fast
@holyknightthatpwns
@holyknightthatpwns Жыл бұрын
I believe this is the second video that Tom has done on artificial earthquakes. Interesting to see how much he's refined his technique since then.
@NoNameAtAll2
@NoNameAtAll2 Жыл бұрын
third there's one with giant steel ball
@ItIsJan
@ItIsJan Жыл бұрын
​@MiIey Cryus 🅥 what? its miley cryus?
@Mogeli
@Mogeli Жыл бұрын
@@ItIsJan And apparently she's vegan 🅥
@Sibula
@Sibula Жыл бұрын
@@ItIsJan Nah, just another scammer
@mk_rexx
@mk_rexx Жыл бұрын
Probably because he apparently has a superpower to not film natural geological activities so he goes to artificial ones.
@alguien6462
@alguien6462 Жыл бұрын
It's strange to hear Tom Scott have so much emotion, it really sells how insane the thing is.
@Qmeister044
@Qmeister044 Жыл бұрын
Same for when the maglev train whooshed past him.
@deJessias
@deJessias Жыл бұрын
bit of a backhanded compliment but ok
@zr413films
@zr413films Жыл бұрын
@@deJessias It's moreso that he's usually very composed and professional in his videos
@titanicf0g
@titanicf0g Жыл бұрын
in the court
@srn4004.
@srn4004. Жыл бұрын
@@deJessias What about it is a backhanded compliment?
@Catatafish1
@Catatafish1 Жыл бұрын
I love how these videos teach me random things I tell people when I'm drunk
@irgendwieanders2121
@irgendwieanders2121 Жыл бұрын
Would you be my spirit animal?
@ailaG
@ailaG Жыл бұрын
Same except the drunk part
@logicandlaughs
@logicandlaughs Жыл бұрын
I'm with you. When you're sober, you don't know if people want to hear cool facts... but when you're drunk, you don't care. :)
@voodootrois
@voodootrois Жыл бұрын
As an expert in something myself, I can tell you that Dr. Lotfizadeh really enjoyed that interview because you came into it already with a moderate understanding of many of the fundamental principals.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
What's to understand? When earth god angry make ground shake.
@bene5431
@bene5431 Жыл бұрын
​@@1pcfred Fluid dynamics, resonance frequency,...
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
@@bene5431 we appease fire god with you.
@greatPretender79
@greatPretender79 Жыл бұрын
Tom was clearly blown away by the U-turn, but said nothing about the fact that, right after the U-turn, the pipes create TWO SIDE-BY-SIDE T JOINTS??? I can't even imagine the violence
@The76Malibu
@The76Malibu Жыл бұрын
I think it's less turbulent violence than heat generation (efficiency loss) from all the bends and connections. Hence the large diameter and smooth metal pipe to reduce heat loss as much as possible. Hydraulic oil is incompressible and already has filled all the lines. Just transmitting power from one side to the other. Hydraulics are a 'liquid drive-shaft' not flowing water.
@UFO-047
@UFO-047 Жыл бұрын
@@The76Malibu hydraulics are 'flowing water', especially one like this setup. Cycling multiple, very large rams very fast will take a huge amount of flow. Just lifting all 6 vertical rams 5" in 2 seconds (not fast for this) would take a flow rate of over 3,100 gal /minute - 11,800L/min.
@wientz
@wientz Жыл бұрын
Agreed ..the U turns are childs play compared to those dead end T joints
@alexandergrozz9418
@alexandergrozz9418 Жыл бұрын
I want an hour long documentary on the engineering and construction of this thing. It's incredible!
@blindbrad4719
@blindbrad4719 Жыл бұрын
They had a camera guy going around recording it, but he forgot to take the lens cap off…
@RossReedstrom
@RossReedstrom Жыл бұрын
Hmm, I bet Practical Engineering would be all over that.
@Bobberation
@Bobberation Жыл бұрын
The best kind of Tom Scott video - the ones where you go "Now I really want to dig into this"
@spellsaidwrong
@spellsaidwrong Жыл бұрын
Glad to know that even artificial earthquake centres have picked their battle in the Y-up/Z-up debate
@QuantumHistorian
@QuantumHistorian Жыл бұрын
Who on earth doesn't pick z is up when working in 3d?
@sashavasilyev3000
@sashavasilyev3000 Жыл бұрын
@@QuantumHistorian the unity engine, apparently
@mailleweaver
@mailleweaver Жыл бұрын
@@QuantumHistorian Mojang.
@diox8tony
@diox8tony Жыл бұрын
@@QuantumHistorian depends, is my target a Monitor/painting/billboard? (2d plane in the vertical) or a building/floorplan blueprint? 2d plane on the ground. most 3d models (unity) should be using the 3d blueprint (Z is up) style. Z is always into your eyes. are you observing a wall? or the ground from the sky?
@BeyondOrdinary
@BeyondOrdinary Жыл бұрын
@@mailleweaver and it always feels wrong
@Blockio1999
@Blockio1999 Жыл бұрын
You can tell how much fun the guy from the company is having eplaining how it all works. Truly living his job.
@firebanner6424
@firebanner6424 Жыл бұрын
UCSD*
@goigus
@goigus Жыл бұрын
You can visibly see him get happier and more engaging at around 2:25 onwards when he realises Tom actually understands what he is talking about and is showing genuine interest. It's a rare sight with interviews nowadays
@1972LittleC
@1972LittleC Жыл бұрын
One of the best things of these video's are the people who work with those daily are getting so excited to be able to talk about this. The pure enjoyment to be able to do that. Reminds me of the people who I worked with at TNO Eindhoven.
@rgibson7305
@rgibson7305 Жыл бұрын
It is such a distinct pleasure watching smart people be passionate about things they love.
@thesavage2054
@thesavage2054 Жыл бұрын
'We're laughing, but that would be catastrophic.' I love how Tom can make something so dangerous so entertaining 🤣
@RamonInNZ
@RamonInNZ Жыл бұрын
Our university in Auckland NZ has a slightly smaller version, and still have a lot of fun shaking stuff, which includes bridges, tanks (water), silos and more as well....
@gabrielfraser2109
@gabrielfraser2109 Жыл бұрын
Building a shake table in New Zealand is like building a spider farm in Australia.
@illdeletethismusic
@illdeletethismusic Жыл бұрын
you"d still do it if you for needed a supply of spiders with predictable characteristics
@dengar96
@dengar96 Жыл бұрын
In the US we have a university club called EERI which builds structures to resist seismic activity. Some schools can get some insane results out of their builds. Often they will partner with concrete canoe teams which build canoes out of concrete which I did for 4 years. Super fun and very challenging to do well, Tom could do a great episode on those competitions.
@drpaulht26
@drpaulht26 Жыл бұрын
We test our graphite cores for our nuclear reactors on shake tables. Quite interesting to test scale models of 12m diameter 30m high cores of free standing graphite bricks.
@WhammeWhamme
@WhammeWhamme Жыл бұрын
@@illdeletethismusic - indeed, there is actually a *dedicated website* selling stuff for farming spiders in Australia (specifically spiders, specifically Australia)... being a nation that essentially *only* exists at the intersection of two continental plates means we NZers really *really* need to SCIENCE earthquakes, wasn't the one in this video in California? California is not exactly the most tectonically stable place in the world either...
@daylen577
@daylen577 Жыл бұрын
That dude was the most charismatic business person I have ever seen. I feel like he could explain to me why they picked the specific alloy for the low pressure pipes and I would still be listening.
@neillthornton1149
@neillthornton1149 Жыл бұрын
He's a professor at UC San Diego, so it's good you want to listen to him, as others do!
@alainportant6412
@alainportant6412 Жыл бұрын
@@neillthornton1149 he is a professor at the fudge packing academy
@StoneLegion
@StoneLegion Жыл бұрын
I love how 99% of this is the science / tour and not the final presentation. That is exactly what I want to learn about how and why not the fireworks.
@graceygrumble
@graceygrumble Жыл бұрын
I would not have picked up on the resonant frequency of the building having to be taken into the equation. My knowledge of physics and mechanics is limited, but Tom's understanding and questioning made me understand ... in a way. Tom expressing wonder and fear had me gripped! Great stuff!
@paulhaynes8045
@paulhaynes8045 Жыл бұрын
It's probably the most important factor!
@ralanham76
@ralanham76 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about it when they said it. Because in a real earthquake the amount of energy and mass being moved is sort of irrelevant to the stuff on the surface.
@dathat555
@dathat555 Жыл бұрын
The building can shake back and influence the table. A building can't shake the Earth.
@paulhaynes8045
@paulhaynes8045 Жыл бұрын
@@dathat555 technically it can and does (Newton's third law) - but not that you'd notice. Certainly not in the middle of an earthquake!
@eljanrimsa5843
@eljanrimsa5843 Жыл бұрын
@@paulhaynes8045 would be awkward if an earthquake hits the resonant frequency of Earth and we lose our planet
@sskosasi
@sskosasi Жыл бұрын
I'm working in the mass timber industry so this shake table test was something I am very fascinated in, and I'm delighted to see this you do a video on it. I did some of the manufacturing modeling on a few of the CLT panels. It is crazy how many players across the industry were involved with this. I would love to see a video where you dive into the shear fuses, tensioning, and other details, and the impacts they may have on mass timber construction and construction.
@MazHem
@MazHem Жыл бұрын
Nice! I read the stuff on the recent Glulam fire test as well :3
@phantonormia3790
@phantonormia3790 Жыл бұрын
Tom Scott is gaining the information and understanding necessary to now be able to, alongside volcanic eruptions, now prevent earthquakes.
@ann18o96
@ann18o96 Жыл бұрын
The question is: were there earthquakes when he was in japan "recently"? 👀
@phantonormia3790
@phantonormia3790 Жыл бұрын
@@ann18o96 We'll never know, because if there were, they didn't happen.
@ann18o96
@ann18o96 Жыл бұрын
@@phantonormia3790 As long as we don't check it's schroedingers earthquakes
@shinyagumon7015
@shinyagumon7015 Жыл бұрын
The U-Turn was such a plot twist, that's so gnarley.
@Atraxa-
@Atraxa- Жыл бұрын
I noticed there were more camera angles during the interview portion than in previous videos! Definitely enjoyed the change!
@balaam_7087
@balaam_7087 Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna cry when Mr Scott stops making videos. Nearly everything he puts out is endlessly fascinating and exactly the type of thing I’d daydream about, wondering ‘why is *this* like *that* ?’ or ‘What makes *that* work like *this* ?’🤔
@tbotalpha8133
@tbotalpha8133 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully we've got a good while yet before we ever have to worry about that.
@mishXY
@mishXY Жыл бұрын
@@tbotalpha8133 isn't this the last year of constant uploads? he will reduce the frequency afterwards
@GeneralKenobi69420
@GeneralKenobi69420 9 ай бұрын
Well...
@Yutaro-Yoshii
@Yutaro-Yoshii Жыл бұрын
You should have come to the E-defence shake table in Hyogo while your stay in Japan. It's the world's largest, and it can simulate x-y load up to 100cm, and z load up to 50cm. We also have smaller earthquake simulator cars (called 起震車) that travel around schools that let kids ride on it for them to learn about earthquakes. I think it'll make an interesting story.
@loganskiwyse7823
@loganskiwyse7823 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to see a bit of Ancient Japanese technology being applied to a modern building.
@a2e5
@a2e5 Жыл бұрын
Mass timber (really, big pieces of engineered wood) is a fascinating building technology: you get to use all the cool wood-jointing methods, but the sizes you can build with are much bigger. And somehow it all stays strong and can even withstand some fire. One of the logos on the banner is the Japanese Sumitomo Forestry, which is planning to build a 70-storey wood skyscraper somewhere in Tokyo.
@loganskiwyse7823
@loganskiwyse7823 Жыл бұрын
@@a2e5 I watched a show on multi-story mountain homes built using this method. That was decades ago by the way. It's actually getting hard in the US to find good informative shows like that. Even the specialty channels fall short for me.
@JamesGilbert_
@JamesGilbert_ Жыл бұрын
Tom Scott consistently manages to make videos on things I don't at all care about, but always makes them extremely entertaining. Absolutely one of this site's best creators.
@ahmad-murery
@ahmad-murery Жыл бұрын
The shaking sound is terrifying, we recently experienced some earthquake here in Syria and what's more terrifying was our buildings are not prepared to handle such situations. Thanks Tom
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
I've only ever been in one earthquake and it was a quiet slow roller. I still thought I was having a seizure while it was happening. Because I watched the ground come up at me. I was thinking, it's not supposed to look like that. I thought I was having vision problems. But the ground had waves going through it like you'd have on the surface of water. It was rather disconcerting. I like my terra firma.
@Martin-di9pp
@Martin-di9pp Жыл бұрын
My thoughts went to the Syria/Turkey earthquake. It's so sad that we know how to construct buildings that can withstand such immense forces, but then some people chose not to to increase their profit margins.
@ahmad-murery
@ahmad-murery Жыл бұрын
@@Martin-di9pp Thanks for your feeling, Most of the contractors are greedy and there is no authority to monitor them, even if that happens, they have cunning lawyers who take them out of their responsibilities and the poor people bear the fees.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
@@Martin-di9pp people do what they can. Not all choices are available to everyone all the time.
@teopalafox
@teopalafox 9 ай бұрын
​@@ahmad-mureryhuman experience is universal I guess, though this is to a different scale
@stephenwilliams163
@stephenwilliams163 Жыл бұрын
They told Tom "we're about to test. This area needs cleared for safety." Tom strapped on his jetpack and said "no problem "
@Alucard-gt1zf
@Alucard-gt1zf Жыл бұрын
The guy you're interviewing is such a natural, it's barely like an interview and more like two friends talking about their job
@aidanbyrne8267
@aidanbyrne8267 Жыл бұрын
Please share more footage of the shake in progress! I really want to see what all of the angles/shots looked like for the entire test
@andrewsmith9678
@andrewsmith9678 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Pipefitter here. That U-turn is an expansion joint. It’s necessary for the operation. Steel pipe is highly affected by temperature changes. That expansion joint allows the pipe to expand and contract without breaking any welds. Also, 5k psi isn’t as scary as you’re making it out to be. It’s common in power plants and refineries.
@TheCJD89
@TheCJD89 Жыл бұрын
That is amazing engineering. I'd love to see it at 100% power
@PrathamInCloud
@PrathamInCloud Жыл бұрын
Building and you both won't exist to make a video later
@firesurfer
@firesurfer Жыл бұрын
No, you don't.
@heist3326
@heist3326 Жыл бұрын
This is right by my house! I drove past this thing for years and only learned of its purpose recently. Thanks for covering it!
@carlbutcher2268
@carlbutcher2268 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious as to what it looked like to you driving past. Was it just a weird ongoing construction site where they seemed to change what half-built building they had there every few years? Or did you know more than that? :o
@heist3326
@heist3326 Жыл бұрын
@@carlbutcher2268 I thought they were building some military rappelling training thing since it's next to MCAS Miramar. The structure in the video popped up relatively recently.
@scythal
@scythal Жыл бұрын
@@heist3326 How often do you see something shaking on the shake table?
@heist3326
@heist3326 Жыл бұрын
@@scythalI've never seen the building shake before. It's a hundred yards or so from the main road and by the time you get closer to the driveway entrance, there are a ton of trees in the way. It's also just after a government vehicle only driveway access to a part of the base. The gate to the shake table was closed most of the time I drove by commuting, so I always incorrectly assumed it was associated with the military. There's not really a good spot to stop around there. You'd have to park in the neighborhood or across the highway and walk quite a bit to the sidewalk across the street to see the tall structure. I feel like any shaking from that distance would be a challenge to observe.
@daedalusspacegames
@daedalusspacegames Жыл бұрын
@@heist3326 “I thought they were building some military rappelling training thing since it's next to MCAS Miramar” I thought the same thing! I lived local to MCAS Miramar when I was in high school, still make my way that way occasionally to visit some friends, or the like. Crazy to think about Tom Scott making it to our neck of the woods, hey?
@NameNotFound-hb5ef
@NameNotFound-hb5ef Жыл бұрын
It was a pleasure to listen to this expert. You two did synchronize greatly.
@lordsqueak
@lordsqueak Жыл бұрын
Tom's reaction to everything really hammers home what would otherwise just be big numbers.
@SeishiZero
@SeishiZero Жыл бұрын
Riding in an earthquake retrofitted building during the 6.8 Seattle Nisqually quake in 2001, the biggest takeaway while crouching under my desk was how much the building continued to shake after the earth stopped moving. The earthquake lasted only 45 seconds but the building was still rocking and creaking for many minutes after the shaking stopped.
@Nalehw
@Nalehw Жыл бұрын
I wonder if that's by design? Cushion the energy, spread it out over several minutes, rather than taking the full blow at once?
@SeishiZero
@SeishiZero Жыл бұрын
@@Nalehw 100%
@mateolucic687
@mateolucic687 Жыл бұрын
This looks like a nightmare for engineers. The amount of work it took to build all of that, I can't even imagine.
@achimhaun2726
@achimhaun2726 Жыл бұрын
I have to admit, being a small supplier of equipment to refineries throughly desensitised me when it comes to fluid pressures xD
@WyattWinters
@WyattWinters Жыл бұрын
Knowing nothing of the subject, are the pressures in refineries comparable? Or way higher?
@critical_always
@critical_always Жыл бұрын
High pressures in large volumes surely makes a difference?
@spdcrzy
@spdcrzy Жыл бұрын
@@WyattWinters about the same, but MUCH higher volume - albeit only in certain locations. Also, no need for nearly as many safety control systems or overkill engineering since it isn't the entire facility that's pressurized - it's only the compressors where actual refinement is done.
@bene5431
@bene5431 Жыл бұрын
I can imagine. I just noticed that swimming pools did desensitize me against the volume of fluid. These pipes are a bit smaller than those of an olympia pool
@tz8785
@tz8785 Жыл бұрын
@@spdcrzy Also flow rates and pressures in refineries don't oscillate wildly (at least not as part of regular operation).
@hazonku
@hazonku Жыл бұрын
Loved the interview. You just know when folks ask that guy what he does for a living he says, "I work in rock & roll." And then shows folks a video. And if he doesn't he SHOULD.
@PrestonFrankel
@PrestonFrankel Жыл бұрын
Interesting to see what universities have specific features, that's why I'm glad these facilities and resources are open to other students and researchers
@emartin7166
@emartin7166 Жыл бұрын
Love how proud this guy is of what he does. You can just tell he absolutely loves it.
@Tricia_K
@Tricia_K Жыл бұрын
7:45 Thank you for saving me from a heart attack with that "↖️rainwater" caption...!
@Tehom1
@Tehom1 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, not just that it does the job and shakes the building, but for all the design consideration they put into how to stop it safely etc beyond just doing the shaking.
@tonytins
@tonytins Жыл бұрын
Tom's reaction over the U-Turn was priceless.
@DanLynch2814
@DanLynch2814 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for translating imperial into metric, too often I watch something and have no idea what scale they're even talking about. Simply adding a conversion makes everything so much clearer.
@samuelmcgowan2565
@samuelmcgowan2565 Жыл бұрын
The scale of this is mindblowing.
@IAmMrGreat
@IAmMrGreat Жыл бұрын
The building shaking at the end really sold it for me. 320 ton moving like that is absolutely ridiculous.
@jimmyryan5880
@jimmyryan5880 Жыл бұрын
It blows my mind that people do science in imperial
@camilaissas
@camilaissas Жыл бұрын
Tom's excitement when learning about new things is the cutest thing ever.
@andrewjones-productions
@andrewjones-productions Жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in an earthquake zone and having just experienced a fairly strong one where a few light items fell off of their shelves, I cannot express my gratitude enough to those who research and test building techniques for their ability to withstand an earthquake.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
You're supposed to secure things with blue tack. Now go out and buy a package. It's cheap enough.
@robmoab3410
@robmoab3410 Жыл бұрын
I do seismic testing on a much smaller table at the university of Buffalo NY twice a year. It's amazing to be able to watch tests like this, and I would love to see this one in person!
@Mr.Redlego
@Mr.Redlego Жыл бұрын
4:14 I've never seen someone get jumpscared by plumbing before.
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Жыл бұрын
That could be the world's lamest horror game.
@its_steeeeeeeve
@its_steeeeeeeve Жыл бұрын
Your guide was amazing! I could listen to him all day for full lecture on the shake table.
@Brown95P
@Brown95P Жыл бұрын
Y'know, the shakes done by the building may be small, but on something this tall, it's genuinely frightening even from a computer screen. Little wonder Tom had the urge to run away.
@roseastronautrecords8187
@roseastronautrecords8187 Жыл бұрын
Your personality makes these videos so good
@FukaiKokoro
@FukaiKokoro Жыл бұрын
I recently experienced a earthquake and boy it was so much more strong than I was expecting. It was off the coast of California by eureka California and I'm near yreka which is very far inland. The house was shaking back and forth and when I ran outside I heard the power cables making a horrendous sound. Definitely scary.
@ladyicondraco
@ladyicondraco Жыл бұрын
I love how the expert was clearly excited that Tom understood the issues once explained.
@andreasomalley8342
@andreasomalley8342 Жыл бұрын
My friend is studying civil engineering and he worked on this project!
@LaviniaDeMortalium
@LaviniaDeMortalium Жыл бұрын
as someone who lives in California, I'm deeply grateful places like this exist.
@BakeBakePi
@BakeBakePi Жыл бұрын
I can't believe that they can create that precise earthquakes, for that much weight!
@airsoftuniversity
@airsoftuniversity Жыл бұрын
For some reason, I was taken back the same way you were, Tom. Mouth agape, staring in awe. So much careful engineering coming together in what seems like a scenario that should have constant failures - but it's intentional. Controlled. Deliberate. What a feeling it would have been to witness that in person.
@electroneurons
@electroneurons Жыл бұрын
Once again tom scott has taught me more then school
@schmarcel4238
@schmarcel4238 Жыл бұрын
*than Should have paid more attention in school.
@savageraccoon787
@savageraccoon787 Жыл бұрын
​@@schmarcel4238lol
@korganrocks3995
@korganrocks3995 Жыл бұрын
@@schmarcel4238 You beat me to it! 😄
@BirdmanHT07
@BirdmanHT07 Жыл бұрын
I work in building automation, and specialized industrial automation like this always gets me fired up.
@EightThreeEight
@EightThreeEight Жыл бұрын
1:45 You can tell Tom was just mentally double-checking that he was getting pitch and yaw the right way around.
@GustavoAraujoR
@GustavoAraujoR 10 ай бұрын
I had the opportunity to be part of the subsequent phases of testing of a reduced version (6-story) of this building as a PhD student in civil engineering. It is amazing to see, even for us, the engineers who designed the structure! Thanks to Koorosh and the NHERI@UCSD staff for ensuring these tests run as smoothly as shown in the video.
@miradrgn
@miradrgn Жыл бұрын
fun to see something so absolutely buckwild in the sheer scale and power of its engineering that tom can't help but be flabbergasted anew every 30 seconds
@gnd22
@gnd22 Жыл бұрын
Got my Computer Engineering degree at UCSD many years ago and used to walk by the Structural Systems Laboratory building (with the neon vices and virtues) daily. Always wondered about what was going on in there. Really fun to see this and the interaction between Tom and Dr. Latfizadeh, brought back some familiar feelings. And yes, the shaking in the video shocked me! Seeing the building shimmy like that just seems so unnatural.
@lw8882
@lw8882 Жыл бұрын
"We're laughing, but that would be catastrophic." Humanity in a nutshell, really.
@Georgewilliamherbert
@Georgewilliamherbert Жыл бұрын
There is a smaller one of those at UC Berkeley that predates this one, but unlike this one at UCSD it's inside a building (Davis Hall) and the height limit is smaller than that. I'm not a student there anymore, but I saw small buildings shake tested and saw videos later of 2 and 3 story buildings shaken. Immense equipment.
@SurrealNightmares
@SurrealNightmares Жыл бұрын
In addition to the shaking tests, it also shows how long an earthquake can really last! I counted to about 30 seconds until the shaking ended.
@matieyzaguirre
@matieyzaguirre Жыл бұрын
that's a really short one though! Big earthquakes usually span several minutes, and even minor ones easily surpass the 30 second mark
@OctyabrAprelya
@OctyabrAprelya Жыл бұрын
@@matieyzaguirre And those feel like hours.
@markmurphy854
@markmurphy854 Жыл бұрын
The 1964 earthquake in Alaska was a 9.2 and lasted nearly 3 minutes.
@JasonBob
@JasonBob Жыл бұрын
Funny, I drive by this thing every day and I kept thinking that it would make a good Tom Scott video. Apparently you were there!
@seldoon_nemar
@seldoon_nemar Жыл бұрын
I just feel the need to mention that the red pipes at 3:30 are carrying 3,000 PSI. A standard industrial gas cylinder you use for welding, or helium, or o2 or whatever, is only pressurized to 2,500 PSI. It's also not as high risk as you'd think. that's mostly off the self plumbing believe it or not. Schedual 120 pipe if it's ~12" (12.75OD) with a nominal 1" wall and a burst around 3,800 psi.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
They haven't left themselves with much margin for error. But that's the modern era I suppose. There's no longer a safety factor in anything.
@seldoon_nemar
@seldoon_nemar Жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred that's a rough guess. it might be schedule 140 with a max allowed of 4,300 psi. schedule 160 clears 5k. now mind you, that's the max allowed working pressure, not the bursting point of the pipe. My point was that you can order most of that gear from a standard supply house, surprisingly. schedule 140 is so common it's also just called "XXS". schedule 40 is "STD", and 80 is "XS". and yes, it's standard, extra strong, and extra *extra* strong... as for safety margins, there's quite a big strain factor above working limits, much like lifting gear, if you're within spec you're good. You can also have limiting devices and such installed that will bleed pressure over an allowed pressure, so if operating pressure is 3k, something might spike it, so at 3500 psi, it forces a spring open and bleeds volume out of the system instead. it's as simple as a big ball bearing and a really big spring.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
@@seldoon_nemar if you have money someone will sell you anything. If they don't have it they'll get it.
@Michaelonyoutub
@Michaelonyoutub Жыл бұрын
This is one of your best videos Tom. Your basic understanding of fluid dynamics that you showed really help that engineer feel comfortable digging into the specifics of exactly the insanity of all of this.
@RZ350NC
@RZ350NC Жыл бұрын
I've always lived in southern California and that sure looked and sounded like a good-sized earthquake!
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
You think that was a big one?
@RZ350NC
@RZ350NC Жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred Medium-large. Remember you are at the epicenter. And yes, I have been at a quake epicenter.
@markmurphy854
@markmurphy854 Жыл бұрын
@@RZ350NC Cal State Northridge? Landers Big Bear?
@RZ350NC
@RZ350NC Жыл бұрын
@@markmurphy854 CSN campus on the Friday of the three 5+ aftershocks. I was a student photojournalist for the CSULB "Union" newspaper and went there to interview he staff and take some photos. They said I could wander around the campus and take photos, but "Don't go into any buildings". "No problem," I replied. It was one of the few times where the TV news cameras just could not capture the extent of the damage and destruction that I observed.
@evanlee93
@evanlee93 Жыл бұрын
You can tell this guy is really enthusiastic and proud of the work he does.
@Awesome_Aasim
@Awesome_Aasim Жыл бұрын
Japan has a similar shake table at the National Research Institute for Earth Science and Disaster Prevention. This tech actually saves lives by testing buildings beforehand.
@dan_zehner
@dan_zehner Жыл бұрын
Our research network that UCSD is a part of collaborates closely with E Defense in Japan.
@DasParedes
@DasParedes Жыл бұрын
Tom reactions are always priceless in those videos and it's also what sell the magnitude and impressiveness of those things
@WhitneyAvalon
@WhitneyAvalon Жыл бұрын
This is fascinating, Tom!
@abolfazlkhosravi2563
@abolfazlkhosravi2563 Жыл бұрын
i really appreciate the SI unit conversions in all your videos thank you for that
@thorwillems9657
@thorwillems9657 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for always informing us Tom!
@xystem4701
@xystem4701 Жыл бұрын
I love how happy you can see the engineer is when Tom understands what he's talking about and just gets more and more excited and starts going off about fluid dynamics
@nERVEcenter117
@nERVEcenter117 Жыл бұрын
I get to do analysis on exactly the sorts of record data they use, and write many of the same filters and transforms on that data. It's for smaller stuff, mainly blasting and construction vibrations. But since I'm always on the software side, it's fun to see the data in reality! I might get to go on a trip like Tom's soon enough.
@Camaika1997
@Camaika1997 Жыл бұрын
I really like the engineers way of explaining things! Very captivating
@TizziQ
@TizziQ Жыл бұрын
5:36 Just a bunch of nerds giggling over actuators and damper systems. You love to see it.
@GiltenDorn
@GiltenDorn Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the subtitles. It help me learn new things and English at the same time.
@QuantumPulsar
@QuantumPulsar Жыл бұрын
7:40 when there's only 1 block left at the bottom of the jenga tower
@rick-sanchez
@rick-sanchez Жыл бұрын
Love how happy tom looks doing roll, pitch and yaw correctly in that take. ("Yes, nailed it")
@glenngriffon8032
@glenngriffon8032 Жыл бұрын
"I know its fine but I absolutely want to turn and run" Don't you just love the conflict between human brain going "Trust the math. The math is good." and instinctive primate brain going "The ground is mad at you, you're in danger."
@General12th
@General12th Жыл бұрын
Math is good. But ground is *angry.*
@tccschreiner
@tccschreiner Жыл бұрын
I love how Dr. Lotfizadeh uses the Imperial System to describe the mass/length of the object, then says "Zed" to determine Z-axis.
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