I regret being the host of this | Tom Scott, Matt Parker, dodie, and Sophie Ward play No Thanks

[@TomScottGo]

For the folks who are wondering why we didn't put a scoreboard up all through the video: it was just too distracting! There's just too much information on there and it doesn't help with understanding the game: so instead we're using highlighting and camera shots to point out relevant things. (And besides, Unexpected Charging Cable is really the star of this week's show.)

[@camren.m]

hi tom!

[@MrCommentGod]

hi tom!

[@Kobenomics]

hi tom!

[@Pepso8P]

I am not sure if it would be too distracting, but I like the moment of surprise at the end where you count it all up, so I am glad you didn't put a scoreboard while you played.

[@declaniii6324]

hi tom!

[@doddleoddle]

THE UNDERDOG

[@GeorgeFoot]

The hustler!

[@andrewlow5547]

Good Win!

[@farzaan1479]

The real strategy was to have no strategy

[@kilgirlietrout]

Well played!

[@sacredgeometry]

You knew exactly what you were doing

[@reddragon3132]

Who knew Matt's knowledge of numbers would be such a detriment. I did not expect the allure of numbers to cause him to drop all illusions of strategy

[@grzzltn]

In other words, it didn't matter what Matt's going to do, it was a win-win for him; win the game and/or enjoy having the best numbers

[@Corrup7ioN]

A Parker strategy if ever I saw one

[@PeterLePresident]

Hahaha, I'm like him in that regard. I do nonsensical things for numbers.

[@artemlyubchenko3022]

Imagine that, but with complex numbers, and to get the score you take their sum's length.

[@vaguelyweird]

@@PeterLePresident same. good numbers are so tasty

[@Colopty]

I like that the mathematician lost the math game due to a compulsion to collect any card with interesting numbers on them.

[@reaganbowen9494]

playing this like pokémon

[@IceMetalPunk]

@@reaganbowen9494 Look, Houndoom is the best Pokemon and no amount of stat calculation will convince me otherwise 😂

[@custardbaby4]

Nerdsniped again.

[@marctreal]

The thing is, though, there cannot be any such thing as a non-interesting number 🙃. Look. An interesting number: any number on a list for some reason. Now, make a list of numbers not on any other list. Now, every number is on a list, meaning every number is interesting!

[@omerd602]

@@marctreal The better way to say this is to define a list of all interesting numbers, and then find the smallest number not on that list. Boom! You've got another interesting number! Now add that number to your original list and repeat until infinity

[@stevenbridges]

Matt's chaotic number favouritism strat 😂

[@highpath4776]

Just Need to play Vs Count Von Count

[@ToMaX444]

"The Parker Strat"

[@lysaali50]

_"there is no such thing as root 2.."_ -Pythagros

[@rugvedkulkarni1593]

@@ToMaX444 What is this in reference to?

[@ehsteve23]

I really appreciate the effort that went into subtitling the OoOos at 9:25

[@Anivacuum]

Thanks for pointing this out! Never saw such work with subtitles before.

[@erufailon4723]

The people doing Tom's subtitles took some notes from that title sequence video, huh

[@mirjanbouma]

Same, here that was awesome. Great job @ the subtitler (is that the right word?)

[@EmmaVB82]

Now I feel like I missed out by having subtitles turned off! I appreciate this bit, and the colour coding in general, being brought to my attention though 😃

[@rev.rachel]

oh my gosh so impressive...I don't even know how to make that happen on subtitles!

[@timothymclean]

I love how quickly this every-player-for-themselves game turned into a spitefully-cooperate-against-whoever-would-benefit-most-from-this-card game.

[@phil_510]

Woah! The subtitles are color-coded! I’ve only seen that once or twice before, and it really helps with following along here

[@tree427]

and it uses the same colour scheme that tv subtitles do

[@jellevm]

You must not watch a lot of anime ;)

[@Eylrid]

I didn't even know you could do that on youtube

[@asmqb7222]

@@jellevm aegisub vectoring ftw

[@asmqb7222]

Okey dokey time to link the best-captioned video on KZbin: ?v=ddWJatRxfz8 Set the subtitle language to Japanese - _after_ watching the whole thing through with the captions off, potentially 2-3 times so you take everything in. Yep, this is what KZbin's captioning system is capable of. Very much a pity noone uses it - but the level of work in the linked video generally takes months.

[@testoftetris]

I can't stop thinking about how much more interesting this game would be if everyone at the start got to look at 3 random cards and pick 2 of them to throw into the "out of game" pile (plus one at random from the deck of course). Not only would it let everyone have a little bit of extra data to inform their choices, but you'd also get a spectacular element of "what do you know that I don't?" every time you see someone do something a little odd

[@NZsaltz]

I agree, that sounds awesome

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

Ooh, that would be diabolical. I like you.

[@randomizednamme]

I think it would be cool also for everyone to have a down card that’s hidden until the end

[@cooledcannon]

In BGA a variant is 10, 20 and 30 are guaranteed to be removed.

[@Colopty]

@@cooledcannon But that gives everyone equal knowledge of which cards are removed, so it wouldn't have the same element of knowing stuff the others don't.

[@arnavodkaa]

I genuinely cant believe I am having so much fun watching 4 people playing a card game. That's Tom Scott folks dude makes everything interesting.

[@PsiVolt]

there's a whole world of tabletop game communities online! polygon's overboard is a favorite show of mine

[@zyaicob]

*welcometooverboardpolygonsboardandcardgameshow*

[@bisbis2.0]

Even a microwave 😂

[@himabimdimwim]

360 cameras are so cool! Before this video, I never saw what the practical purpose of a 360 cam was, but after seeing there sheer number of angles and face shots from a single camera, I have to say that it is absolutely incredible.

[@ragnkja]

Compare the “Citation Needed” videos of series 1-2 and series 4-5 (the only ones where they’re seated around a table) to see the impact a 360° camera can have.

[@sourwitch2340]

This is a great way to use them. Another is for making an interactive video, where you can look all around yourself. An example of that are Starkid's One Night Ultimate Werewolf games, where you can then look around and try to find out who is who by actually watching them.

[@himabimdimwim]

The captions in color do show who is talking is so incredible and underrated! Most KZbin captions are a mess in situations in which multiple people are constantly alternating between talking!

[@ODISeth]

I didn’t know it was possible to make multi-colored captions on KZbin, excellent decision to do that Tom!

[@connor1577]

@@Zidane-e7h haha same!

[@amsyarzero]

I agree, tho I don't think it's Tom who does that. Rather, I think it's by Caption+.

[@paintspot]

9:20 is the best moment of captions :) -Paintspot Infez Wasabi!

[@adamnaameeazim6365]

Another banger. Another banger from professional game show host Tom Scott.

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

It's cool to see him try something new and host an unprofessional game show.

[@sebarus8108]

I understood that reference

[@georgelloydgonzalez]

Another banger by Shayne Topp from iCarly

[@solehsolehsoleh]

Tom Scott's Board AF.

[@zyaicob]

That is the last reference I expected to see here

[@darkerbit]

9:25 with subtitles is one of the more creative things I've seen done with subtitles, good job whoever made those!

[@reddragon3132]

What's funny about this game is that it plays so differently depending on the people you play with. When I play with friends, we leave the cards much later, so there's a much larger exchange of tokens. If I was in Matt's position with the 35 going around, I would normally be able to expect to get well over 10 tokens out of that. I don't know what strategy is optimal but it certainly is extremely dependent on your opponents

[@cooledcannon]

It really is not dependent on opponents. You actively want someone else to take the 35 which is why you pass it around. The only way opponents decisions affect you is if their aggression starves you of tokens, or if their passing gives u a surplus. To put it this way, if you take the 35 for 0, you lose a point. But if someone else takes the 35 for 2, they gain 33, which benefits you for about 11 points.

[@wobblysauce]

@@cooledcannon math.

[@jakesecondname2462]

I think it's a Game Theory Optimal versus Exploitative play type thing as in poker. So, perfect strategy isn't opponent dependent, but winning by as much as possible is.

[@ben8557]

@@cooledcannon "To put it this way, if you take the 35 for 0, you lose a point" You mean you gain 35 points?

[@dmarsub]

@@cooledcannon but wouldn't the "culture of the game" change optinal decisions if you know how much other players value the chance of a future row. If they over or undervalue it from the mathematical optimum that could inform your decisions. Also sabotaging a certain player can be a valid strategy, but is usually also not "optimal".

[@thatstarwarsnerd6641]

If Tom hadn’t gambled the second lap with the 22, then, by my calculations, he’d have been on 33 and would have beaten Sophie by 5 points.

[@hakairyu1]

Meanwhile if Sophie let it pass to Tom again, she'd be at 42 in third place and Tom would be down a staggering 31 points and won with 28. So Sophie made the right call and went up a ranking, and Tom paid the price.

[@fendalynn6604]

Yet you forgot the 5, that would have given 3 pts to Sophie, I think

[@gavinkemp7920]

that sounds about right.

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

@@hakairyu1 Yes, and the optimal play was to make sure Tom doesn't win.

[@nishkaarora6343]

clearly greed has its own cost

[@morganlouden3850]

"that's why they're called counters Tom! Because you count them" had me cracking up 😂

[@MF-fd2ug]

The Colour-Coded Subtitles are a really nice touch. Thank you for holding up Acessibility on KZbin.

[@Greyrabbit22]

I love Matt's quirky attitude and his winding of Tom!

[@AdamCraftPC1234]

I'm So glad Tom Scott made this channel its so much fun

[@dragonhunter8807]

the moment tom yelled "HOW?" i felt that. when i play cardgames with family and tell everyone by guessing (if asked) what is in their hands its the same xD

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

Surprise is an important strategy.

[@crazydragy4233]

I can always respect the effort even if it is irritating to get caught haha.

[@matheuscabral9618]

I love bluffing on games not about bluffing at all

[@andymcl92]

Always love the chemistry between Tom and replaceMatt, but that was a bit of a Parker strategy...

[@lonestarr1490]

:D

[@Aiden-xn6wo]

I knew a joke like this would come up.

[@GerackSerack]

Brilliant!

[@TheGlassgubben]

Nah, that isn't even a Parker strategy. It's simply bad.

[@newcoolvid27]

*classic* parker strategy

[@jpalz]

Tom saying "The part where I trade some of my reputation and credibility" made me respect him even more for pointing that out

[@onthepalehorse]

That was his plan all along!

[@blackbird95913]

jesus i've been watching both numberphile and dodie FOREVER and its just wild to see them in a video together. thank you tom

[@robertofontiglia4148]

You play the types of games I LOVE. These relatively simple card games, the ones I can make at home. I don't need to buy an expensive boardgame, I don't need to spend two hours reading the rules... You just break out the game and play. My absolute favourite games at partiies!

[@TorgieMadison]

"How many counters do I have?" "Nine." "Ok, good to know." Hahaha!

[@5hirtandtieler]

Love the choice of players - made for a really fun, captivating game to watch! And, I dont say this often, props to the sponsor for accepting all of tom’s honesty!

[@bernds6587]

I always love if someone makes subtitles, and especially on Toms channel, where different people get different colours! Thanks for that. Now what's awesome is the easter egg at 9:24

[@kaziiqbal7257]

“I’m so thrown by my rash decision” is the story of my life

[@Ayane13b]

This was hilarious. Your guests messing with you is just like how my family messes with my Dad. Absolutely love it.

[@kisaragi-hiu]

Caption+'s subtitles are so good. Really wish more channels would use their service.

[@thisrandomdude_]

I wish I had the words to tell you how awesome you are, Tom! This video was really really fun to watch, and I always appreciate honesty in advertisements. Thank you for being an amazing presence on this platform!

[@Dardove]

So there was a Korean show called the Genius which played this (with their own setup). I never knew it was an actual card game. Cool to see it again.

[@splodeyferret]

Yes! If I recall correctly they only had two cards missing, and there was a special round near the end where everyone could bid on one of the missing cards?

[@raytonlin1]

I love the Genius!

[@sebastianwlodarczyk]

It's amazing that Matt managed to be both an agent of chaos and order (is "agent of order" a thing? After watching this I'm gonna say it is a thing)!

[@betoh7140]

Honestly, mad props to whoever did the subtitles for the "oooo" at 9:25

[@cemerson]

I do love this game. You quickly find that taking cards to spite someone else is not a winning strategy!

[@davidmann2414]

It’s amazing how many times they intentionally lost a load of points just so someone else wouldn’t gain a few or even just break even!

[@pithlyx]

i love dodie and its feels so good to have listened to her music for so long and then see her on another channel like this.

[@connorgoss7786]

I appreciate the effort for the captions at 9:25.

[@3dcbd393ce]

Kudos to the person who made captions at 9:25.

[@antisocial-gamer7293]

I'd like to see Mr Unexpected Charging Cable in more episodes; his demeanor is award-winning if I'm honest!

[@jackeea_]

Now I want to see a version of this game where instead, you're scored on the interestingness of the numbers you end up with!

[@dig8634]

You would either need a judge whom you are supposed to please, or some other third party, or the results would be highly subjective and up for debate

[@Anonymous-df8it]

This needs to be pinned!

[@HaloInverse]

Could be paradoxical. The least "interesting" number would be made _more_ interesting because the fact that it is "the least interesting number" would be _an interesting fact about that number._ It may be possible to extend this idea to prove that numbers _cannot_ be objectively ranked on interestingness, because the act of ranking them alters the interestingness of the numbers, thereby invalidating the proposed absolute ranking. ...so yes, you would need a judge, and a time limit for the inevitable debating and shouting. Could get _very_ silly.

[@matheuscabral9618]

@@HaloInverse that's interesting, which means it's not... Interesting

[@jmhastings0]

the best part of the video was the nuanced and thoughtful character development of the Unexpected Charging Cable. masterful execution Tom!

[@JudyCZ]

The subtitles are pure joy! There are so many people who depend on them and so many creators that seem to not care. I love that there are people like Tom who put the work into it - the colours were brilliant and everything matches. Thank you so much, Tom.

[@baguettegott3409]

That was so much fun :D I was having such a crappy night and I feel so much better now, I'm so glad Tom decided to make this channel

[@dragoncurveenthusiast]

Hope you're doing better now, stranger on the internet!

[@Zenithian186]

Gotta say I absolutely adore the subtitles on this video, colour-coded, multiple lines at once, perfectly synced. Absolutely great for anyone hard of hearing or just anyone that struggles with following multiple people at once!

[@Marie-io7xx]

Really nice work with the closed captions here! Thanks! Especially love them at 9:23

[@smutnejajo5149]

13:55 "Oh, I feel like I'm giving you a present" It's funny because the Polish edition of this game is called "Present"

[@vertxxyz]

The coloured subtitles during the "ooooh" really are wonderful. Great job to whoever put in that effort.

[@MaximNightFury]

Gonna love the mathematician playing by his own rules

[@bemde]

These subtitles are amazing! Thanks for making the video not only acessible, but the subtitles also really fun, the "Ooooo" was amazing :D

[@lastoftoni]

I really really appreciate the captions included in the video, and even color coding them, awesome :)

[@LunizIsGlacey]

I love these "card games in a pub with other KZbinrs" type of videos SO MUCH!!

[@HAL-oj4jb]

I really really love this second channel, every video is something new and interesting. I never know how every new video will be, but I know that it will be great. The caving video was so emotional for myself, and the coffee video probably is among my top 10 most interesting videos I've ever seen.

[@rumblezerofive]

Matt is just so charming and wholesome in the way he cares about the numbers

[@alexisericson241]

The captions turning all sorts of colours when they go "ooooo" gets the point across and is really funny all at the same time

[@ThisIsAYoutubeAccountAsd]

Wow, the O's coloured wave at 9:25 in the subtitles was definitely a nice touch

[@Slaeowulf]

Dodie is an absolute sweetheart.

[@trizgo_]

the color-coded subtitles are a wonderful touch

[@607]

9:25 What a dedication to the captions. :)

[@CuteLittleHen]

Matt was definitely the MVP of this game, he drowned the whole ship just to get the captain.

[@gooddogtyson6135]

people have probably mentioned this already but i love the coloured subtitles

[@0xTJ]

I'm really loving Tom Scott plus!

[@mrodinsen]

This editing is through the ROOF! This must have taken so long. Also colour-coded subtitles are fantastic. What a well made video

[@ingridplata2411]

The nature of Tom as a game host is such that players are naturally drawn to collaborating against him

[@nghx5976]

Love what you did with the subtitles Tom

[@TheGeladoo]

These videos where you host games are my favorites Not trying to say the educational videos are bad or anything, I love them all, these ones just manage to go beyond

[@mirjanbouma]

They really pull you in, don't they? I wouldn't have thought watching other people I don't know playing a game I don't know would be so entertaining, but here we are

[@outrancedawster]

@@mirjanbouma Just finished binge watching all his gameshow related ones. All of them are so good !

[@lucky_lol]

9:24 That effort in OoOoO And color coded subtitles. Tom puts lot of effort in quality of content , lets just appreciate that👏!!

[@McJaews]

Here's my fingers crossed that Dodie can put Tom in touch with Jacob Collier for a cool video sometime.

[@stijnlieftink7026]

Oh yes please make this happen

[@dennis_johnson]

Ultimate crossover

[@yohhhanna3326]

OMG BIG UPVOTE ON THAT IDEA

[@chelsea706]

YESSSSSS

[@rasmusn.e.m1064]

The overlap between linguistics and music theory is definitely there. Something on vowel quality vs timbre would be very interesting :)

[@vi.vi.vi.vi.vi.d]

I absolutely love these kinds of videos makes me feel like Im just hanging out with a group of friends!

[@CorneliusThroatworthy]

just to let you know in case you haven't already fixed it, the links at the end of the video are titled as "Mark's Liv's & Rohin's" channels (I presume from when y'all played skull, but I might be misremembering) rather than "Sophie's, Matt's & Dodie's" channels loved the video, loved the friendly competitiveness that made you visibly cheesed off, and the game itself is a fun & interesting concept - I've enjoyed playing Skull, & this feels like it fills a similar niche :)

[@beforeiweep52]

i absolutely love the subtitles here, thank you tom for always subbing your videos well!

[@bagusamartya5325]

Sometimes I forget that Dodie and Tom are just straight up friends

[@DenisRyan]

Might I suggest I'd love to see you play a round of Set with friends, Tom. It's a really great card game of creating sets based on number, shape, shade and colour.

[@mirjanbouma]

I've done Set! It's great fun and a good brain workout.

[@kaishang6406]

I've played it once. I've never been bullied so hard in a brain game before.

[@233Deadman]

That sounds like it would be Matt's favourite game...

[@FTE99699]

Brilliant game, brilliant and adorable players - I envy your life Tom :)

[@ReedCBowman]

I want to see Matt's version of the game, where you have some interesting mathematical rule(s), or rules of mathematical interest, by which runs of cards are grouped, rather than it being just consecutive numbers. So, strings of consecutive primes. Strings of consecutive squares. Etc.

[@SpankyPie]

Shout out to the captioning team for the CC being color-coded.

[@LordHengun]

The captions on this video is some next level stuff, great work!

[@Pepso8P]

I am actually glad there were subtitles, I didn't understand a few parts when you talked at the same time. And they are very nice, only one issue, the end screen blocks them! If you could move them up a bit during that segment, it would be perfect.

[@alystair]

The subtitles on this are INCREDIBLE!!! Thank you!

[@Ottersauce]

Ayeo these videos are lovely and the subtitles are extremely helpful. I hope you keep making these type of videos on this channel, they are such a joy to watch!

[@psychicpenguin2850]

I would love a 1 - 2 hour version of this.

[@EmmaVB82]

I think you would probably enjoy this Nebula Original series, called “Money”; tagline, “Tom Scott hosts a series all about trust, negotiation, and money”, and it’s roughly 70 mins across 5 episodes a bit like this, but higher stakes and drama :) (I’m sure Tom has a Curiosity Stream/Nebula sponsored vid around somewhere with a code to sign up to them both - I recommend!)

[@zarzee8925]

5:42 is such a Matt Parker thing to say. I guffawed in the night.

[@AlexGoings]

I missed the "Lowest score wins" part of the rules explanation and I thought I was going insane with the strategy

[@arlwiss5110]

The person who subtitled this didn't need to animate 9:25 but they did anyways and I love em for it

[@PlanckRelic]

I absolutely love Matt's alternative goals/values/success measure

[@alexismandelias]

The subtitles at 9:20 are a work of art

[@jaxsmolenbee4683]

Tom Scott being friends with dodie makes zero and one hundred percent sense at the same time and I don’t know how to explain it

[@pitedapollo6175]

ikr

[@baguettegott3409]

All british people are friends with each other, hope that helps

[@pitedapollo6175]

@@baguettegott3409 indeed we are

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

They're both the best person in the world so every time they collab it makes it one of the best videos ever created. This is Dodie's third time in a Tom Scott video, so she's really a frequent collaborator now.

[@walterw2]

@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 ooh! what are the other two?

[@mirjanbouma]

Every time there's one of these videos I'm surprised at how enjoyable it is to watch. It's also - I think - a good way to discover cool new games. What a sponsor, by the way! I'm impressed with all the things they let you keep in the script, very decent.

[@kickwriteteach2313]

this gives off Citation Needed vibes and I love it.

[@Rookie_Rockounding]

I just watched the Skull game video and now this one and I feel like this is the analog version of play through videos and I absolutely LOVE IT!

[@thecatofnineswords]

That was lovely to watch. Thank you for hosting a fun session

[@MacCyder]

The multicolor subtitles is absolutely awesome. Thanks so much for those!

[@Vares65]

So much fun watching these types of videos! LOVE everyone in this one so much. Been listening to dodie's songs for years and was happy to find out that she's Tom's friend. Also, never play a math game with a mathematician! LUL

[@justifiable]

love the color-coded subtitles! made it very nice to watch

[@RubTubeNL]

I have enjoyed this very much! Thank you Tom for making these brilliant video's!!

[@pabloagsutinnavavieyra2308]

Loves that OOOo! animation in the subtitles at 9:25

[@Wheeze_NL]

These are lovely! The interaction between all the lovely people, and an interesting game! Anyone want to try playing it?

[@HeavyMetalDeathMan]

Great video, very entertaining. But hands down, that was the best sponsor ad I have ever seen. The script was fun and still informative!

[@WhiteWulfe]

"Surprised they let me keep that in the script"... Love that playful bit about it being a sponsored segment.