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00:00 Introduction to iPadOS 18 Calculator App
01:00 Exploring the Calculator Features
03:00 Testing Handwriting Recognition
05:00 Variable Calculations and Challenges
07:00 Future Implications and Final Thoughts
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In this video, we dive into the long-awaited addition of the calculator app to the iPad with iPadOS 18. Apple has not only fulfilled the most requested feature but has taken it to the next level with advanced functionalities. We test out the app's ability to recognize handwriting, variables, and perform complex calculations, showcasing both its impressive capabilities and current limitations. Despite being in beta, this innovative app promises significant productivity enhancements for iPad users.
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[@paperlessmovement]

It's wild to think that folks believe humans need to write neatly for AI to understand. I'm definitely not one of those people. As a busy professional, I couldn't care less how my handwriting looks. I can read it, you can read it, and AI should be able to read it too. If not, I guess we don't need to worry about robots taking over the world just yet.

[@brookehiggins6879]

g = g.8 dude ur handwriting

[@richmondkoomson3403]

The AI was really good to translate the g.8 to 9.8

[@nathanaelculver5308]

You didn’t demo one of the really cool features. Write a formula such as y = 2x + 7. Tap the = and select Insert graph. You’ll get an instant graph of the line. Now change the 7 to 13, and the graph will update. The graph works, of course, with more complex formuli as well.

[@AngusMcAlister14]

So in other words glorified Desmos?

[@dudeman47thegoat]

@@AngusMcAlister14 Lol

[@smiththewright]

@@AngusMcAlister14 LMAO! Exactly 😅

[@wuhlheide]

I tried it but it realy isnt grreat right now. Maybe in a future beta I will have an easyer time with it

[@trillex1861]

​@@AngusMcAlister14 No, a way worse desmos with fancy Interface

[@s-h-a-d-o-w]

I love how the iPad will teach people how to actually write properly. If you don't learn this at nursery school, you will fail at every step of your life and make also the lives of your colleagues worse. They will continuously have problems with readability and hate documentation which was done by you.

[@kacperjasinski274]

Did you handwrote this comment?

[@marcusnewman8639]

I disagree. Computers will be faster in the long run.

[@akyhne]

The computer should follow you, not the other way around. Microsoft math Solver seems to work better at OCR.

[@MrCheestr]

who said a 3 year old kid could have an ipad?

[@mzr9710]

@@MrCheestrmost parents nowadays? lol

[@jzzsxm]

I'm shocked it knew what your 1 was

[@Red_2022.]

Yep same

[@lol-vq8dh]

His 1 ist the most normal one there is lol

[@p41n8]

@@lol-vq8dhbro yall delulu

[@ZeldaTimeline]

@@lol-vq8dhthe one he writes at 3:58 looks like an upside-down V.

[@lol-vq8dh]

@@ZeldaTimeline and thats how you write a one😂

[@ChristianAntonioCarvajal]

Also, there is no room for the answer to appear on the screen. Might be the reason why you have to bring it down for it to work since there is more space on the bottom.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

It's not because of the more space, it's because this is just pure programing language, there is no programing language what can answer you the a+b+c if you only declared the a and b before, and the c just after the question.. it's not magic, it's programing, with handwriting (so you must follow the basic methods of the programing too, like initialize the variable first and make the question after that, all programing language read the screen in the same order from top to bottom and from left to right, and if the last variable is under the question that is still unprocessed by the programig language, so it's unknown.

[@amolmategaonkar3491]

Even I had issues in understanding the scribble 😊

[@Mangolite]

Now I understand why we strike through the numbers 0 and 7 when we handwrite, to differentiate them from 1 and the letter O. Considering this is a beta version, there will be errors in recognizing certain characters, symbols, and numbers in our handwriting. For example, your number 1 from X = 10 m/s looks like an upside-down letter V, and your letter A is inconsistent in shape and form. Hopefully, the calculator app will improve at recognizing our unique handwritten styles. I wonder if it would help if Apple provided a list of alphabets and numbers with boxes for us to write them in our style three or four times, to improve the app or iPad's recognition system like Touch ID or Face ID.

[@paperlessmovement]

But you recognized the 1 and A. So AI will do too eventually. 🤞

[@melgross]

@@paperlessmovementand this is why I dislike the term AI. I much prefer the way Apple stated it as machine learning. I just saw an interview with Steve Wozniak. He stated that he had real AI built into him. He called it “actual Intelligence”.

[@nealc8424]

The way he wrote a 1 is consistent with how Germans (and most?) Europeans write it. So the iPad “should” be able to understand that.

[@melgross]

@@nealc8424 only American English for now. That’s how Apple usually does things. Make sure it works properly with one language, the home country, then move to others once things are working properly.

[@akyhne]

The software uses simple OCR to detect the handwriting. Any decent OCR software, would have had no problems with his writing. It's not like OCR is a new thing. It has been around since the early days of computers. And Microsoft managed this 6 years ago, with Microsoft Math Solver. Comes with IOS support too.

[@cr8vnuke]

Like MathCad, vertical placement is important. Defined quantities may need to above

[@nealc8424]

I’m a MathCad user as well, and I wonder how much of MathCad’s functionality Apple has in this. 30 yrs ago, original MathCad was a Mac product, but not any longer. It would be great to have a product that works like MathCad and handles units of measurement too.

[@maximderevenko6352]

extremely raw recognition algorithms. I thing thousands of scholars will break their iPads if it will work like this.

[@stephenmcconnell7868]

Does this handle Differentials and Integrals from Calculus?

[@spooky_lights]

Partial differential equations is the real question.

[@jacobperreault6844]

For me I’m more interested in calculus, cause de are not very easy for computer to cycle through possibilities, and de usually have multiple methods of solving, if it could compute anti-derivatives or derivatives though, I’d be impressed

[@Moh-cs5ck]

Don't think it's programmed for something that advanced. Even wolfram alpha one of the best calculators out there isn't

[@jacobperreault6844]

@@Moh-cs5ck lmao that’s why I’d be so impressed

[@Moh-cs5ck]

@@jacobperreault6844 yeah maybe in another 10 years😂😂

[@akyhne]

This is what Microsoft Math Solver supports: ● Elementary: arithmetic, real, complex numbers, LCM, GCD, factors, and percentages ● Pre-Algebra: radicals and exponents, fractions, matrices, determinants ● Algebra: quadratic equations, system of equations, inequalities, rational expressions, linear, quadratic and exponential graphs ● Basic Calculus: summations, limits, derivatives, integrals ● Statistics: mean, median, mode, standard deviation, permutations, combinations Sets a goal for Apple to live up to. MMS also do graphs and tells you how to solve an equation. It has a daily math challenge and a math game built in.

[@JoeKueser]

I wonder if the recognition of your handwriting will get better when they turn on the feature that makes your handwriting neater automatically. I don't see that on in the beta yet, but I wonder if once that starts working we'll get better handwriting recognition as well.

[@libnlr75tech6]

Hi gentelman do you think it works for ipad 9th gen?

[@StephenBoyd21]

I think it’s not recognising your scribble. You need to be a bit more careful when you are writing.

[@paperlessmovement]

I‘m a Doctor. This is the best handwriting it‘ll get from me. 🤣

[@winningmatt6436]

Ha² doctor's handwriting is the best..only other doctors and possibly nurses can read it.

[@melgross]

@@paperlessmovementcute, but you do need to try to be just a bit neater. I had the Newton and several Palm devices with handwriting recognition. Both worked well after they got used to my writing. But I did have to pay some attention to my lettering.

[@teohlai5082]

Just use voice to text 😂

[@falklumo]

With modern neural nets, OCR is superhuman. Apple not nailing the handwriting piece puts them to shame here.

[@premnathl1019]

How should i update my ipad to ios 18 ?

[@user-tz1se7ko1s]

Is this available for download?

[@hanksimon1023]

I wonder if hand writing 'recognition' would work better if you used the 'convert to typed' pen?

[@yu-i7476]

Curious if it can solve for. Beam deflection and moment or sectional method for trusses

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[@HosseinNasiri-db5zu]

Thanks for the video. Is this new feature coming for any iPad that supports ios 18?

[@akyhne]

Or just use Microsoft Math Solver.

[@vishalhudge2540]

Awaiting to give it a try for my structural design classes

[@JeancarloRibas]

It`s like MathCAD... You need to set the variable in a vertical position above the calculation assembly.

[@khbromm]

Can you set the Calculator to RPN Mode? I really like my HP 48gx

[@bgktsl]

Your video is very helpful. I was spending an hour writing it on the side and nothing showed and I thought the feature didn't come with the beta. I expect to use it to demonstrate the calculation to my students, hope it works well.

[@duszekjk]

We already had really good calculator in search, on Home Screen. But this new features make it worth it, to have a special app

[@renatasmandrijauskas4649]

Indeed, variables needs to be declared first and then you can use a formula. These rules are taught in school and applies almost everywhere (for example in programming).

[@giuseppe1912]

as mathematical language it is necessary to have the espression and definition orientad as a book is read. it's very similar to mathcad that require to be precise to be functional

[@25thpyroo]

Maybe using more color can help the understanding ?

[@techheaven007]

only this dude can destroy skynet with his encrypted handwriting 💯

[@zabdielscoon3041]

Cool to see it inaction outside the keynote. How does the rest of the OS feel? I guess not improvements to stage manager or files?

[@paperlessmovement]

It feels great!! I love the new design options! Also the new control center is great! But didn’t dive too deep into things like file management.

[@loogoos4894]

Hope that Apple makes a way for its users to distinguish when it writes something. The system should know how to use the written language depending on how it was written. For example, an oval with a slash in it is a zero but a simple circle is an o. We should be able to let the system say this is how I write these items ahead of times so interpret it as this way.

[@akyhne]

The reason why I find Microsoft Math Solver to be better, is exactly because it shows you what it thought you wrote, on the fly.

[@ryoji4200]

Ok, so the thing that interests me the most about as a student is if it is capable to solve 2nd, 3rd grade equations or if it can do sistema of equations. Just that would be incredible, otherwise it’s just for day to day math which can regularly be done without this…

[@akyhne]

I'm no math expert, but Microsoft Math Solver can do the following: ● Elementary: arithmetic, real, complex numbers, LCM, GCD, factors, and percentages ● Pre-Algebra: radicals and exponents, fractions, matrices, determinants ● Algebra: quadratic equations, system of equations, inequalities, rational expressions, linear, quadratic and exponential graphs ● Basic Calculus: summations, limits, derivatives, integrals ● Statistics: mean, median, mode, standard deviation, permutations, combinations I'm sure, the Apple math app will at least do what the Microsoft app can do, once it's fully developed. MMS also comes for IOS.

[@Oneroneone]

Now I‘m confused. I let some people try the handwriting recognition and it always worked. Even with text I couldn’t read. Pretty cool feature as a student

[@nigelgee3576]

You also need to make sure that calculations is below the variables

[@EAster33]

You could use a red dot a blue dot and a green dot, also if it would show the work that would be amazing

[@EVM786]

What about integration and derivative equations. Can it solve them .

[@SirPoofyPants]

Would love to use this for civil engineering calculations. It would be great to have hand calc sheets with variables rather than just relying on excel.

[@khumoyunmukhammadjonov1490]

Bro I don't even recognise your letters.

[@Badoink264]

Can it do calculus, is the biggest question?🤔

[@sambitgarai3195]

No

[@The12thSeahorse]

You may have to wait another ten years for that level.

[@akyhne]

Microsoft Math Solver is supported on IOS. It can do: ● Elementary: arithmetic, real, complex numbers, LCM, GCD, factors, and percentages ● Pre-Algebra: radicals and exponents, fractions, matrices, determinants ● Algebra: quadratic equations, system of equations, inequalities, rational expressions, linear, quadratic and exponential graphs ● Basic Calculus: summations, limits, derivatives, integrals ● Statistics: mean, median, mode, standard deviation, permutations, combinations

[@lasarith2]

Tbh I just write my own in Numbers, or use Google calculator, but it does look nice , only took 10+ years .

[@Sudip_Sarkar_Charles_Edwards]

I wish i had this in school.

[@mrmrjims3865]

Motorolla Stylus phone have this feature for years

[@sharonb.9128]

Great video. I think the iPad Calculator and Math notes are fantastic. You proved like any specialized program you should work with their parameters, not do your own thing and say it “doesn’t work”. It’s in the recommended Math Notes app that all the software works.

[@slowcatto]

It’s a calculator - it should just work without all that faffing about. Certainly you couldn’t rely on this to do anything serious. In the meantime, MyScript calculator app (which has been around for years) does much of this without all the fuss.

[@mrs.dannasroom5958]

Can someone put the link for this app here. I can’t seem to find it on my iPad which I find strange. Much appreciated.

[@paperlessmovement]

It's not officially released yet. It's part of iPadOS18, which I've downloaded the beta version and tested it in this video.

[@carroux4050]

Tested it yesterday myself. Apple has massive issues recognizing letters as variables...

[@Problemsolver434]

Your g and 9 look exactly the same. On that point alone, you can't blame the AI

[@jimgrant1776]

Please ask every Apply employee you encounter to add a "Financial" mode to the new calculator app, in addition to the Basic, Scientific, and Math Notes app. A "Financial" mode would handle PV, FV, PMT, N, & I.

[@LovA2451]

For which ipad versions? Do I have to download the calculator app?

[@frankwales]

It will be part of iOS 18, coming later this year. I don't know if Apple have announced the supported iPads yet.

[@plop_09]

@@frankwalesyes it’s in their website, iPad OS 18 will be available with these: iPad Pro (M4) iPad Pro 12.9-inch (3rd generation and later) iPad Pro 11-inch (1st generation and later) iPad Air (M2) iPad Air (3rd generation and later) iPad (7th generation and later) iPad mini (5th generation and later)

[@libnlr75tech6]

​@@plop_09so it's coming for 9th gen right?

[@plop_09]

@@libnlr75tech6 yep, 7th Gen and up 👌

[@akyhne]

I hope for Apple, that it works for any Apple product. It's not like it's magic.

[@jp_joshi]

It doesn't have to be in calculator notes....? Notes app will do all i tried it

[@Sustronics_Inginir]

What they could do in the future are, derivatives, integrals, matrices and so on…

[@callmeNeno]

I am done with third party apps & subscriptions. Apple’s native apps are the goat!!

[@akyhne]

Well, for now at least, Microsoft Math Solver is more advanced. No need to drop that now, if you are using that.

[@TheLemon420]

I think for the first beta of this idea is astonishing. Yeah it's not a heavy hitter yet, but imagine in a few years when it can solve more complex equations.

[@robinwright531]

I was trying it out yesterday and had all the same problems ☹️

[@toddcastaldi6536]

Wow, that’s really bad. :) Thanks for the demo!

[@bumblecat23]

perhaps trying to write instead of scribble might help

[@hanksimon1023]

Will this be available to my iPad 6 mini?

[@anshulsanghi8161]

Can’t say for sure, but it works on my iPhone 12 Pro. So I guess it should.

[@Luigi_bros4321]

​@@anshulsanghi8161The iPhone isn't the iPad...

[@anshulsanghi8161]

@@Luigi_bros4321 That's why I prefaced with "Can't say for sure"

[@Luigi_bros4321]

@@anshulsanghi8161 but yeah, the iPad mini 6 is the newest mini and WILL be getting it

[@akyhne]

Microsoft Math Solver. Supports IOS.

[@EAster33]

You could use a red dot a blue dot and a green dot

[@akyhne]

No! This is basic OCR. It should work.

[@lol-vq8dh]

Im confused about everyone complaining about his handwriting. I think its absolutely fine and easy to read

[@paperlessmovement]

🙌

[@matthewcampbell4047]

have to say how you write the numbers is very different then how Americans do it. I didn't have as much trouble with iPad math notes when I tested it

[@Imraight_the_animator]

I love apple added math note on the calculator but... does android do this before apple released the calculator? I just wanted to know?

[@akyhne]

What do you mean? If Google will add a similar app like this for Android? While Google develops the Android OS, they only develop apps for their own hardware, like Google Pixel phones and many of their apps don't even come pre-installed. Although all their apps can be installed on any Android phone. I've heard Google has a similar app, but if not, there's Microsoft Math Solver, that has been around for some years. Also for IOS. It's in many ways way more advanced. And there are other Android apps, that are out there, that does similar.

[@Imraight_the_animator]

@@akyhne wait wat...?

[@akyhne]

@@Imraight_the_animator It's nit like it's rocket science. These apps use simple OCR to scan the screen, then figures out there's a math question, that needs to be solved. This could have been developed in at least back to the 1990s and in fact, there was a handheld scientific calculator in the 90s, that could do something similar. Of course not as advanced. But still.

[@Imraight_the_animator]

@@akyhne ok??? but what the name?

[@akyhne]

@@Imraight_the_animator Of the app? Microsoft Math Solver as i already wrote.

[@udp1073]

I bought an expensive calc app fpr the ipad no later than two weeks ago… lol.. my proverbial luck

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

It's not magic, it's simple programing. You can't get the a+b+c if you only declare the a and b, there you only can get the result for a+b. So you must declare the c too before you ask the a+b+c.. just check any programig language, it's the same (also it's read the data in the same oreder, from top to bottom and from left to right, so the c must be declared over or before, it can't be declared after or under the question), they just made it avaliable with handwriting too (also you must make your writing a bit more consistent, like if you cross the A at the middle first, than you cross the A at the top, that is basicaly can be two different char in many languages, since there are language where the Ā is exists, so you must cross the A nearly on the same spot)

[@akyhne]

The software uses simple OCR and OCR has been around for many decades. It should be capable of recognizing his handwriting. If Microsoft Math Solver can do it, so can this new app eventually.

[@Shan_Shah]

I hope samsung adds this to one ui devices

[@maravreloaded]

Microsoft Math Solver already did all this. And, why do you need it copied with your writing? To cheat your tests? C'mon.

[@chopstick134]

apple costumers are even stupid enough to spend that amount on a tablet with no calculator😮

[@user-mk1be7hk4d]

Actually, having the iPad since day one, I never missed the Apple calculator. That’s a tech reviewer issue.

[@alanottley]

Haha - reminds me of the Newton.

[@fk3547]

A lot of people say your handwriting looks ugly and hard to read and I agree, but that should not stop the AI from being unable to understand your text. After all this is Apple, the most expensive consumer tech in the world. They definetely need to work on their hand writing recognition tech and they also need to add more math abilities

[@akyhne]

There are pro OCR software, that can do much better, than even Apple can put into this app. They have been around for decades, so they have a clear head start. Don't assume, just because it's Apple, that they can out perform any other software company. They can't!

[@mrm0815]

Can it solve? Like: 5 + x = 17 ==> x = 12

[@paperlessmovement]

Nope

[@mrm0815]

@@paperlessmovement Danke, schade

[@akyhne]

Microsoft Math Solver can.

[@youravgjoe7]

This is FluidMath circa 2013

[@lucaslautaromartinez7939]

Anyone knows if there's an app like this in android? I'm not whiling to pay a thousand dollars just for this

[@pureevoix]

do pi =. see how far it goes. 😅

[@IkesinInsight]

I think I know the cause of the problem you kept facing. I guess that they’re because you put the calculation equation higher than the place where you declared the variables. It works like programming. It only works from the top to the bottom. If you put equations before you declare the variables, it won’t recognize them.

[@IkesinInsight]

2:15 You wrote perfect “A” but you put it before you declared it.

[@dio_rsav8829]

It cant differentiate if your (X) is a variable or a multiplication sign…change how you write your X

[@VarunSrinivas]

I hope this isn’t how the calculator is gonna work, as there is a lot of scope for improvement. My handwriting is neat, it’s just that, the calculator isn’t smart enough to understand even if things are in chronological order.

[@aarondavis9208]

Your #1 doesn’t look like a typical 1 so I think it’s struggling to determine if it’s a letter. It almost looks like your letter A

[@alphamodh7390]

I hope this help people start write correcly

[@GaleGummola]

Correcly

[@Fred_the_Head]

You’re writing it wrong.

[@itstomatopuree]

I think you placed the equation to an area where the answer cant fit

[@jmanpro2599]

Bros 9 and g looks the same 😭

[@FrancisOcholi]

seems your handwriting should be used as a special use case for training the calculator model...because 😃. Please try not to spoil the calculator with your handwriting😄. Gracias. I'm shocked it recognized your 1 in the first place

[@lucchese20]

14 years? I suppose better late than never. 😊 The app needs to be more polished before it’s released. You can’t expect everyone to know or understand that for the app to work properly, you need to write a formula in a very specific area of the screen.

[@denysivanov3364]

Looks weird, handwritten digits is very simple problem solved long time ago

[@saimahendra2047]

Even I can’t recognise x is 10 here

[@samikshghodke2855]

bro you need handwriting classes

[@premjeetprasad8676]

3:55 if you are calling this a 10 then i think i am also an AI because I am unable to recognise it as a ten 😂

[@jessasdad]

Your g’s and 9’s look identical

[@oferkrupka]

7:10, m^2 is different than m, you should add the ^2 to the 50.

[@jayjaywriter1115]

Wasn’t it the Heini that he wanted to see if the ai gets that?

[@oferkrupka]

@@jayjaywriter1115 it's like saying 5cm and 5liters, not compatible. it's different units. AI got it and didn't do anything.

[@akyhne]

He already did. He wrote A = 50 m²

[@oferkrupka]

@@akyhne Does it mean 10cm x20cm x 10cm? Or maybe I divided the 10cm to 3 so: 13.3cm x 13.3cm x 13.3cm? or maybe even 15cm x 15cm x 10cm. Each will give completely different answer.

[@oferkrupka]

@@akyhne Now, if it was 50^2 cm + 10cm + 3cm. The 50^2 = 2500 So: 2500cm + 10cm + 3cm = 2513cm

[@godofbiscuitssf]

You know what? It's never good to start off a video with a lie. I've had PCalc for years now and it's amazing on pretty much any basis.

[@paperlessmovement]

So where is the lie? I don’t get your point.

[@godofbiscuitssf]

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[@RiteshKumarPanda]

i want my calculator to give me correct answers 100% thanks

[@chicharown]

more like a writing issue 😂😂😂. Maybe revert on how to properly write uppercase A.

[@mariovelez578]

Can’t wait to see if it can solve differential equations

[@LuisMoran-pw7qp]

Your hard writing is hard though. Your g and 9 look the same

[@beasthunter4003]

Brother fix your handwritten first 😭 then the AI will recognize it

[@beasthunter4003]

@paperlessmovement well... as a "professional," your handwriting should be readable at the least, otherwise it's a you problem. If the robot can't read it, you try again and rewrite it. Me and you being able to read it or make out what it is doesn't mean anything if the problem solver cannot read your problem in the first place. Robots don't have human brains yes, so we have to make sure that we help them understand us so they can help us in the end. Also, it really doesn't take that much to write properly... come on, you're a grown man.

[@99cya]

When i read the comments i expected to see a horrible handwriting. But its not. Thats how most adults write. The app not recognizing this is a dealbreaker and just frustrating. I cannot imagine apple will release this version to the public. It will surely get improved. Its puzzling me tho that this ocr stuff isnt completely solved in 2024.

[@paperlessmovement]

Thanks for sharing. As a busy professional, I have no time to create fancy colored student notes. As a busy professional things need to go fast. Fancy handwriting is secondary. One of the reasons, why people are joking about Doctor's handwritings ;)

[@eleshannaidoo6310]

Type shit mate!

[@akyhne]

Bad software.

[@JMWexperience]

You need to go back to grade school and learn how to print properly 😊 (I’m just teasing you) thanks for sharing!

[@paperlessmovement]

Nah, after I've completed my PhD I had enough of school 🤣 And for the handwriting, I can read it and this is what matters. If AI can't it proves I'm still better in recognizing patterns. 😂

[@JMWexperience]

@@paperlessmovement Touché

[@MGA19a]

So basically you are writing A wrong 🙂 😀

[@aaqidmasoodi]

what a 1