Why The iPad Doesn't Have A Calculator

When the iPad was being created, a guy named Scott Forstall was leading its software development. He was responsible for the skeuomorphic interface featured early on in iOS, and the calculator app included with the iPad prototype was simply a scaled up version of the iPhone’s. The software team assumed the final product would ship with this calculator, but once Steve Jobs saw it one month before the iPad’s release, he met with Forstall right away. Saying, “where is the new design for the calculator? This looks awful" Forstall replied, "what new design? This is what we are shipping with.” Jobs said, "no, pull it. We can't ship that.” Although Forstall tried to convince Jobs to keep the calculator on iPad, he was given an ultimatum: Redesign the calculator’s user interface to make it look good on the iPad’s larger display, or it won’t be included. With the iPad’s release just weeks away, Forstall knew his team wouldn’t be able to create a new app from scratch, so the original iPad shipped without a calculator.
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[@gabo7186]

A simple minimalistic calculator is better than no calculator at all. You can always update the app in the future...

[@TheAwesomeMiner99]

Exactly

[@emmashamuyarira42]

Fr

[@davidpatrick1813]

You got that right ... and also weather

[@SamiSaba2]

Weather exists but not calculator

[@user_28373]

Apple was being frugal 😂😂a billionaire company.

[@stefan_4508]

The real answer: They’re embarrassed that they haven’t had a calculator app for a decade and don’t want to suddenly include it if it’s just a basic app cos they’ll get made fun of

[@werwerqweqwe]

@Jimmy Jr Colvin Then someone already set up the device for you and installed a third-party application. There is no native calculator app on iPadOS 14.6, which is the latest version. You have to use Spotlight to do calculations. Just drag your finger down on your homescreen and enter in the calculations you want to do into the Spotlight search field.

[@jdogisswag]

Lol

[@ColinPopoviciu]

and make it just $19,99 to download :))

[@TysonMerzy]

not true, it’s an aesthetics thing i’m pretty sure

[@circleturtles]

@@TysonMerzy they can't design an aesthetically pleasing calculator in a decade? no way lol

[@psyenz8946]

Remember when your teacher let you hand in your homework 10 years late, because you wanted to make sure it was just right.

[@trapskilla]

Tim's anwer translated: It hasn't been affecting sales so we have no reason to apply resources to completing it lol

[@boeing747isthewhale]

Thank you!

[@gwgwgwgwgwgwgwgwgw]

Honestly still kind of a bullshit answer. I could design a simple calculator app on ios in less than a day, as a single person. I KNOW they have the surplus resources to do it

[@succduc]

Thanks, I skipped the whole video find this comment

[@ryansayre5417]

Imagine having a $5 billion dollar headquarters in charge of designing everything for the company and you can't figure out a calculator and weather app

[@akchess2171]

That's kinda what Apple does.

[@silas537]

lmaoooo

[@malakisands8180]

My work I do use my IPhone and company supplied IPad. Doing reports and inspections would be nice to just use One device for everything at once. The weather app could be a larger one from iOS 15. The standard calculator on the iPhone is fine to me. I only want simple. If scientific calculator is needed that should be a option directly from Apple.

[@itgw4658]

Theres things that happen behind the scenes that we are not fond of. If it were that easy im pretty sure they wouldve done it long ago. But theres probably things that are stopping it.

[@januchostouch2930]

@@itgw4658 and that thing is called Steve Jobs with his "not good enough" like come on, it's a fcking calculator, nobody cares how it looks, since you're gonna be using it for like max 2 mins a week

[@rishimakhanlal8905]

I don't use a calculator because it's "WAAW, so good". I use it because I need it.

[@KK11022]

Come on now you wont use some ugly ass calculator will you?

[@Slowcarfastbeans]

I ain’t touching that ugly thing. Moved it to the 9th page on its own.

[@priscillaalendy990]

Holy smokes. This is crazy. LOL

[@cardiaccoder9622]

Seriously, as long as it works and has the required features why would I care what the calculator looks like

[@EthanH1]

To be honest though, he has a point. If you just need a calculator app and don't care how it looks, you can always download it from the app store no problem. Apple wants every app they own to be well designed to the point where nobody bothers to download an inferior third party version. If you're going to do it, do it right.

[@NWOBHM2006]

Convincing an entire user base that your incompetence and lack of attention to small details is actually ultracompetence and attention to details.

[@bradcrosier1332]

Bingo!

[@akshaygill8227]

Every programmer: It needs to have a calculator! Steve: iT’s NoT pReTtY eNoUgH!!

[@lollycopter]

Steve sounds like the kind of guy you'd use the "do nothing knob" on when doing music production.

[@lpi3]

"every programmer" will use python. Calculator apps for grannies

[@leowolastname2250]

the calculator team is just traumatized and everytime they try to work on a new calculator design they get haunted by Steve Job's ghost telling them it's not good enough

[@alinaadnan44]

LOLL

[@12Acorns]

Brilliant

[@mandrade5016]

Thats why Steve got cancer. Come @me

[@mugglepower]

Just hoping ghost Jobs would go haunt the fuck out of the whoever genius made this abomination called the app library....

[@pelt1581]

marisa fumo

[@69k_gold]

Imagine being a trillion dollar company and yet can't design a goddamn calculator

[@dappingforever7720]

Ikr

[@EmQue33]

@@noone9382 lol, then explain why they dont have one from 2010 till now Im pretty sure an amateur developer with zero money can do "the best"

[@user-dq9so8nq7t]

@@EmQue33 And that is why that amateur developer has zero money

[@aharrypotterfan5951]

@@noone9382 so buy your logic there’s only one trillion dollar company,since they can’t all be tye nest

[@noone9382]

@Andrej i just ask siri ngl or take my phone

[@dimdull]

2 years after this video… still waiting for a calculator app on iPad

[@jec_ecart]

Really?

[@Razumen]

Apple: releases calculator app Also Apple: "We made math, better."

[@RRei_Oli]

When they finally launch it, they will call it "The most innovative calculator ever"

[@Zimo0o]

and everyone would fucking love it I tell ya

[@OnlyiRabbit]

The iCalulator

[@jackh.3052]

Buy a samsung tablet it has calculator and good features 🤗

[@mxyznk]

In fact they need to update the calculator app on iPhone as well. It's the worst calculator app on any phone Lacks basic features like seeing calculation history

[@sudhanshupaygude]

Solutions sold separately.

[@andygopfert8725]

Imagine creating thousands of calculators for a software and your boss is not satisfied so you create a program that can make the boss create his own calculator. Genius.

[@eddiemattison7792]

and then its....simple (laughable)

[@namwonglue]

I need to try doing this! 😭

[@SaiyanSatsuki]

In 10 minutes no less!🤣

[@arridi]

This is why Apple is so awesome.

[@ikagura]

@@arridi Hahahaha

[@StereoMike06]

I love how the employee pretty much told the boss via creating a interface for him. Do it yourself if your so damn picky.

[@glorgau]

The boss was holding the app over the developers head to manipulate him. Jobs lived to fuck with people.

[@IceBlueBeard]

Yes this is what you do when your boss has no clue what he is doing and you just let him change some minor things that don't really matter just so that he thinks he has accompliced something.

[@GDNachoo]

the calculator dev was taking the piss, 2.0 power version??

[@PlaywithJunk]

That's the perfect way to deal with egomaniacs... 🙂 But if you tell them directly, you're fired.

[@dano1307]

"Haven't gotten around to it yet"....what an answer..

[@walterclements3164]

I'm still laughing at the fact that one of Jobs' employees got so fed up with his shit that he built an entire Bethesda Creation Kit so he could do it his damn self.

[@samiksharaviraja5988]

Ikrrr🤣

[@Ironworthstriking]

They actually made it as a joke at Steve’s expense. But they were surprised when Steve actually sat down and used it to perfect the calculator.

[@FAILoZOFF]

@@Ironworthstriking "perfect" yeah right

[@Ironworthstriking]

@@FAILoZOFF what I mean is he used it to get the design where he wanted it.

[@Blockistium]

this should be the top comment

[@Fireloop]

As the old saying goes “perfection is the enemy of progress”.

[@smoothinterceptor8452]

True words

[@ricardo-hc2yb]

But perfection is key to success

[@jovanleon7]

@@ricardo-hc2yb Lol says no one ever.

[@ricardo-hc2yb]

@@jovanleon7 yes

[@ricardo-hc2yb]

This is my thought lemme trademark it

[@jameswalker199]

iPads have the side stage thing for multitasking, make it open in that and just ship the iPhone version of the calculator. Not only do they have to do barely any redesign, it also acts as a tutorial for users in an "oh, I can do that" moment.

[@cw3728]

Scott Forstall made the iPhone software really nice, little details like the gears moving on the settings icon.

[@saviorayan8143]

I’d take any trash design over those ad-littered jokes we see on the App Store

[@fleksky9420]

Try Desmos!

[@fedoriality]

try Google 💀

[@wisconsinwintergreen6296]

Yeah Desmos is pretty good especially with the function that lets you go back and edit previous equations. Sadly it doesn’t have dedicated buttons for numbers which makes typing slower

[@markoxcx]

@@fedoriality ew i would never use any google products on my precious iOS device. except youtube, but i use alt account that has completely random info on it that dont link to me

[@aidanbazan7769]

Pcalc

[@8instantramen]

This is hilarious when you realize that the Nintendo Switch has a calculator now

[@DavidGames1011]

WHAT

[@hisham_hm]

It does? where??

[@DavidGames1011]

@@hisham_hm oh it’s A 10$ applacaton agaha

[@AJ_Animations]

@@DavidGames1011 wow

[@Sub4CarClips]

@@DavidGames1011 bruh then that doesn’t count since you can also download an application from the app store

[@Xuebatt]

this video nailed it, i was wondering exactly this question and this video popped into my homepage

[@alleneng]

i literally lol'd when he said they wanted to make copy/paste great

[@rawnuhld]

Craig really wants a calculator to be mind blowing. The only thing that’s mind blowing is the fact that they still haven’t figured it out for 11 years.

[@bootmii98]

just make it a graphing calculator as an iPad exclusive lol. It only needs to be more iPad-like than Wabbitemu, that's all.

[@Sunny-us5be]

Apple does not care lmao if they did iMacs would not be sht iPhones will actually improve and ipads will be good for gaming

[@galigon3812]

@@Sunny-us5be cuz gaming is the only use for a computer

[@angelahertel7202]

@@galigon3812 it's a good way to push the limitations of a machine.

[@elhomo6406]

@@galigon3812 yes but they're not exactly good at productivity either. I would never choose to do any of my rendering or editing on a mac.

[@The_Horizon]

"We want our user experience to be amazing so we will force ipad users to get slow, buggy, and ad-filled calculators from the app-store"

[@SmitePlayz_]

Lmaoooo

[@omarr6766]

You can just get one from that googly eyes thing

[@shubhamadtp]

Just get calculator

[@shubhamadtp]

Just get calculator

[@ashtoncampbell2799]

My iPad has a calculator…

[@NibbleMeTwice]

I've been using the IOS Copy and Paste for about a month now. Gotta say, the way I'm able to take something and put it somewhere else is truly revolutionary. I'm surprised Android hasn't caught on by now. /s

[@redmed10]

Who knew how hard it was to create an innovative calculator app that would knock your socks off? I'm sure it'll be worth the wait.

[@geckogra1747]

Honestly, a Calculator app doesn't have to be like "Wow!"

[@leonunez2964]

Reminds me of my crippling perfectionism ☺️

[@fabricemikobi2173]

Exactly! It could be just the same as the one on Mac and iPhones and no one would care

[@shaneluddy7661]

It does

[@scream8635]

Wtf is a wow calculator in the first place and the only thing I can think of is it can read your mind

[@arnoldolorenzo3474]

Exactly, who cares. It’s a calculator.

[@cat-.-]

Apple: we want to do it really well, or we won’t include it. Apple: Check out the new Apple Map!

[@aarongilmore1254]

😂

[@sebosz]

Actually it was the main treason why Forstall was fired, so…

[@coffeearch2906]

Check out this marvelous Podcast platform we "improved"

[@utubekullanicisi]

They fired Scott Forstall over that, and actually right now APple Maps has some distinct superiorities over Google Maps. The main problem of it is that it’s nowhere near close to having as much coverage as Google Maps. But that’s gonna improve every year and eventually Apple Maps will catch it, because Google seems to be resting on its laurels.

[@TheSkottStudio]

@@utubekullanicisi as someone who doesn't use Apple Maps, what are these distinct superiorities over Google Maps?

[@deanaoxo]

I always wondered. I have to have one, so of course, set about getting one, but well, they all suck. I absolutely love the one on my Apple Watch, and use it almost daily.

[@weebercorey]

I don't bother to clean my house because I'm waiting to be able to do it perfectly.

[@haydon1825]

It'd be awesome if they made a calculator app that had handwriting recognition so you could write out complex equations or even graphs and have it decipher them.

[@rufffurzo2633]

This comment needs attention

[@yueyue7514]

Right? Like this would be the best calculator. Also, they could also add functions and features you get from graphing calculators.

[@COOKIEMONSTER90]

Spotlight search can handle not so complex equations. For example: cos(30)*(100/5^2)*sqrt(4)*floor(10.5)*ceil(10.5). And you can use pencil to write an equations.

[@MrDreamMods]

It’s called PhotoMath

[@MacDeece]

This exists

[@CapitanHarlockisback]

When an executive says “honestly”, you know it’s a lie.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

The real reason is that they know their fans will just bend over rather than questioning the lack of basic features. Calculators have been around long enough that only the nerdiest users are going to be impressed.

[@AYouTubeChannelwithNoName]

Honestly I agree with you.

[@fuguthefish]

@@SmallSpoonBrigade Imagine being impressed by a calculator :)))))

[@DR-nh6oo]

Possibly when anyone makes that qualification?

[@shinatham53]

Actually iPad now have the default Weather app since iPadOS 15

[@andrewpreston4127]

From looking at it, the calculator app on the Iphone appears to be an almost exact copy of the design of the Braun calculators designed by Dieter Rams in the 70's.

[@the_synack]

This is a classic case of "letting perfection get in the way of good enough".

[@kamilble2441]

This is a classic case of "letting stupid bullshit explanation be a religion for millions of Apple lovers".

[@kishascape]

@@kamilble2441 yeah Steve Jobs was a psycho who dipped his feet in the toilet to relax, didn’t bathe because he thought his diet eliminated the need to, and ultimate perished from his pridefulness due to his fruitarian thing he swore would cure him. Ashton Kutcher did method acting for the movie and went on the same diet and was later hospitalized for pancreas troubles. If Steve never went fruitarian in the first place he probably would’ve had a fine pancreas and still be alive and stubborn today.

[@AgentExeider]

@@kishascape Yeah true, in hind sight, I would trade Bill Gates for Steve Jobs. I mean Jobs had his issues, but I don't think I've ever heard Jobs talking about wanting to depopulate the earth or anything, but then again, all those technocrats are crazy f**king people.

[@nolifeloser9729]

@@kishascape don’t really see how any of this has to do with creating a calculator app. Like yh hate Steve jobs all you want but him being stupid doesn’t have much relevance as to why there still isn’t a calculator app, and has even less relevance to the original comment 😭

[@confusedcaveman5678]

@@nolifeloser9729 haters just being haters. Funny thing is, they even hate themselves. That's why they are so full of hatred

[@ernestgalvan9037]

Steve Jobs: “The buttons are too large” Almost ALL older users: ‘WE NEED LARGE BUTTONS!”

[@thomaskuklis3625]

Which is exactly why it wouldnt of gotten popular... would you of wanted an iPad when they first dropped, if you were told it was your grandparents favorite remote/device?

[@EddieBurke]

@@thomaskuklis3625 yeah exactly. This is also a trick question because if you answered yes you’re a fucking boomer

[@kelvin8369]

Yeah, what’s wrong with big buttons on big screen? I mean look at those on iPad’s key board? Of course it’s going to be iPad not iPhone size buttons XD

[@ADeeSHUPA]

@@kelvin8369 uP

[@sunnohh]

@@thomaskuklis3625 wasn’t it?

[@vibek14]

This should be relabelled as the most first-world problem and discussion ever. -A Nepali, writing from Nepal

[@faizansheikh6010]

ok i thought my perfectionism was preventing me from getting things done, this is worse

[@narius_jaden215]

“We want to do something really distinctly great in that space”… like offering a basic function for your product? XD

[@abbytorres9123]

No no no we must make it great and memorable we cannot have it look like every other function does even if it will look identical to the others like nothing even changed

[@lisakiraly7227]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@GhostDevilGamer]

@@datinbin this is the actual reason which you explained. apple is a son of a bitch company cos they can earn more by simply not including basic calculator by default and serving it from third party to earn marginal profit from them(epic store fucked apple for doing it), and when some third party developers develop something outstanding then they will simply buy it from them and tells in apple event that they developed this ground breaking feature as part of their useless R&D team achievement, what a shame apple.

[@pakorn9901]

Just port it to an Ipad and resize some button, that's all they need to do. But they won't get more money by doing that so......😒😒😒

[@adamzineddin-_-4890]

Tbh I’ll rather pull up my Casio than use my iPhone calculator, sooo

[@cigxhang486]

I am 100% positive that if iPad’s calculator app design looks exactly like the iPhone ones but adjusted slightly for the size, when using it no one would wonder even the slightest of whether it could look better.

[@MayW15663]

Nobody cares about a damn calculator. It’s mind boggling that they think anyone would care or rather use a third party one littered with ads.

[@jaylensmith6308]

@@MayW15663 hahaha, FALSE

[@clementpoon120]

i think i just spotted an apple employee lol

[@KamenKunchev]

@@MayW15663 stop making sheep noises. We know what you are.

[@danieltheal]

I agree. When I need a calculator it doesn’t have to be fabulous. Basically it just needs to be. On top of being it would be nice if it was readable and if the buttons were big enough. It’s not rocket science.

[@eatgoo501]

So they just couldn’t add it later?

[@Onion_Knights]

update : 2024, still no calculator

[@sph4551]

When apple finally releases the ipad calculator after 20 years, it better be able to read my mind and automatically print the answer on my homework.

[@AhmadBakdash07]

Siri do that

[@nevergonnarickrollyou9072]

Neuralink vibes

[@keqling7086]

@@AhmadBakdash07 Kap

[@jose-jc3pf]

@@chingchenhanji oh tru

[@adintie6086]

@@nevergonnarickrollyou9072 H H HThis has no bobobbobohh and his bbooooo U U y. You y You U U U

[@roqueruiz9172]

his answer has heavy “damn forgot that existed” energy

[@florixn_de]

Because that's exactly how it is

[@user-vs3vm8jt5r]

@@florixn_de damn 30 minutes ago

[@P4r4k]

So true

[@NisYT]

They forgot 😭

[@seiji-kun9488]

Or “it doesn’t have one”

[@naturalroyalflush]

I found it interesting that Jobs had such perceptions. Very sharp insight into design considerations. The only problem is, you can end up obsessing too much. I learnt this when we made slot machines. The case wasn’t the feature, the game and how it was accessed were key.

[@phishENchimps]

wow. great job steve.

[@babobanks]

I'm surprised you could make a whole video about this

[@IZSIN222]

You should see how long some gaming videos can get dragged out about things like the voice of the Super Monkey Ball announcer lol 25 minute long videos for something so simple

[@nabilrejwan8135]

Idk about you but we have iPads to study etc BUT IT DORSNT COME WITH CALCULATOR so I spent $799 on a iPad to study and learn that DOESNT COME WITH CALCULATOR idk about you but that triggers me a lot

[@cogulad1067]

Yeah, there isn't a lot to talk about on this topic

[@4abdullahi]

Why ipad doesn't have health app :(

[@felix_five]

And impressd

[@Abu_1388]

Apple : Why You need calculator on ipad Me: to calculate Apple : Buy our new product iCalc

[@prodtrxnce]

HOLY FK ABU YOU’RE HEREEEE😂😂😂😂😂

[@Randomperson-hp7uy]

Ayee Abu here

[@iNcognito-md9vo]

Oye abu here 😂😂😂

[@ArafatIslam-cd6tp]

Hola abu

[@deliciousnoodles5505]

Steve Jobs always knew how to turn a setback into an opportunity

[@evelynsaungikar3553]

Great, the nemesis of Good Enough.

[@emrekuslu4418]

How about the history function of calculator? One of the most expensive phone in the market that doesn’t even let you to look back on calculator history

[@maxread8629]

“We are waiting until we can make it truely great”- What the hell needs to be great about a calculator as long as I can just type 1+1 I’m good

[@ScienceAlliance]

Ikr

[@YEETMAN-dt9mb]

Would you be happy with a calculator that has weird distorted numbers, button of all shapes and sizes, and an aqua+neon red contrast?

[@perspectiveflip]

@yeet why would they make a shitty one like that? Just take the one from mac and round the corners. A dev can probably create a prototype in less than 24h

[@kpp28]

@@YEETMAN-dt9mb if it helps me finish my further maths homework then yeah. Stop being so form over function, people.

[@quizh1239]

You can use spotlight search for simple math like that.

[@orion1983uk]

"...messy, complex or counterintuitive" It's a calculator for crying out loud!

[@Medalavi]

It should show 2 + 2 = 4 nicer, they haven't figure that out yet:-)

[@moviesjean23]

@@Medalavi that’s wrong 2+2 = 8

[@SkyForce6700]

@@moviesjean23 If you reverse one of the 2's and put them next to each other you get a heart the symbol of love and love is endless just like the figure 8 so you are correct 2+2=8!😎😂

[@Medalavi]

@@moviesjean23 my bad, I am still waiting for the right app on iPad, other application gave me the wrong answer!

[@FreakoShane-gq9yf]

I use calculator plus on ipad... literally the best calculator for ipad I ever encountered

[@dilpaksalih9070]

So It means i have been waiting for a calculator over a decade

[@Edwin-kv1eu]

Have they looked at their reminders and notes app? That’s what they call perfection? Lol

[@davidvalentine4889]

Just waiting for this comment to blow up 😂

[@Aikano9]

I actually like the notes app. I also have never ever used the reminders app

[@homophobesnotwelcomed2308]

The notes app is okay but the reminders app... Um...

[@alize0623]

I use Notes religiously but the reminder app I’ve only used by mistake when Siri makes me

[@pantydropperr6002]

i’ve not figured out how to use the reminders app yet lol i don’t get it

[@nathanielcargile7135]

Honestly, it seems like Apple doesn’t include the calculator app, to honor Steve Jobs’ memory in some abstract way.

[@weishenlim7240]

I can totally understand why the first iPad didn’t have the calculator app, but it has been 14 years…

[@D71219ONE]

“I’m not going to start playing football until I’m great.”

[@littleripper312]

This sums up the idiocy of their reasoning perfectly.

[@diddegaming27mustafadonova36]

haha he is a idiots

[@lance4331]

@@diddegaming27mustafadonova36 and you’re not?lmao

[@lance4331]

@@diddegaming27mustafadonova36 the audacity to call someone an idiot when you cant even correct your own grammar.

[@lgooch]

@@lance4331 it might not be his first language

[@caioellery9117]

ok but the guy who instead of keeping redesigning the calculator for the Macintosh just created a "customizable calculator creator" software for Steve was pure genius

[@hotrodhunk7389]

And his creations looked better! That has to be infuriating.

[@nekominorinya2569]

Perfect example of : „OKAY ASSHOLE DO IT YOURSELF IF YOU THINK YOURS IS SO MUCH BETTER.“

[@JotaleaGG]

"Ugh, I'll just let Jobs do the job, but I'll make it simple for him" - That guy

[@igorpupkinable]

And money and resources waster as well. Try this with your client.

[@JonatasAdoM]

"You do it then"

[@Maruko930]

Done is better than perfect

[@3FourFour5]

Just put the complex landscape mode buttons on the top like in a physical calculator?

[@jakubmrozik7964]

When they release a calculator app, they will say "This is the best calculator we have ever made"

[@gorou_5843]

Chill putin

[@Tokari_]

And make it cost 100$

[@JustinAugustusNYC]

The most innovative calculator ever made

[@fynkozari9271]

Apple usually 2 years late in terms of technology. For example in 2014 they finally go big screen smartphone.

[@jakubmrozik7964]

@@fynkozari9271 Yes, and the problem is people that don't live outside apples ecosystem think that they are revolutionary but the truth is they just release something that was available on the market for a long time.

[@hhthoj]

I like how the Apple engineer back then created a whole designer program just for Steve to customize the calculator app. Lol.

[@Eric-zr]

Ikr😂😂😂😂

[@nicholosmarshall1891]

Lmao fr

[@aryantaneja2244]

@@Eric-zr just think about it he was so frustrated with jobs that for him a calculator modefier became more easy than making a calculator 😀😀

[@clarajosephine3295]

Haha yes😂

[@catherinethegreatsgroceryasmr]

Yes hilarious 😂

[@thatguythere98]

As someone who has never owned an iPad but have a significant portion of my devices in the apple ecosystem this is nuts

[@Pandabee11]

It’s a calculator, I really don’t care what it looks like, I just want a calculator I can use without ads.

[@FriendofBros]

This guy literally backbones every apple flaws with confidence

[@Henrque123]

This is more like "Apple excused", the explanations serve the excuse at the conclusion

[@user-dc1ud6px3s]

Apple even sucks good.

[@iarunsingh77]

@amandeep

[@MontyTheMothman]

@@user-dc1ud6px3s Watch some Louis Rossmann

[@birchtree5884]

Idea for Craig: Make the calculator include more advanced math functions, graphing capabilities, and whatever else that's far beyond my math knowledge

[@boshjosh1918]

I was thinking they could make it like the scientific calculator from iOS

[@terriplays1726]

Would be confusing as the default app to the average user. OT: in my third semester, we had an exam on theoretical electrodynamics. No calculator allowed, one dude used a fully featured CAS anyway. Professor say that and just said: Put that away, it won’t help you anyway. And the Prof was right, it was so freaking hard even a CAS could not help you. The guy was allowed to continue the exam.

[@asifmiles8083]

Yeah, but that's so anti-Apple

[@birchtree5884]

@@terriplays1726 username checks out. Lol but seriously, I don't know how else you can make a simple calculator "great" without adding more functionality. Maybe they could add some cool animations to demonstrate what 5+7 is, like a math educational tool for kids? Other than that I don't really see how else you can make an iPad calculator better other than making it some amalgamation of Wolfram Alpha, Symbolab, and Desmos.

[@berreyl1689]

@@asifmiles8083 how?

[@NeverMeltIce]

I feel like a simple floating calculator the size of an iPhone Max screen would appeal. Like if one were to swipe from the horizontal right, the calculator would pop-out and allow one to place it in certain places similar to the assistive touch button. Majority of people are using another app such as messenger or notes etc when doing simple calculations. So, having a floating calculator widget-style design would be helpful. I guess with iOS 18, we will see more people using AI features to auto-calculate stuff real-time and ‘in-text’.

[@ryanh8764]

4:02 brilliant

[@side-fish]

You know, I think they just forgot about it. It's been 10 years. They probably think it's the smallest thing in the world right now.

[@baileyharrison1030]

People will buy it anyway

[@dttec7660]

Use Calculi app for iOS iPad

[@litjellyfish]

It’s probably is. Compared to other things on those roadmap. They would probably just say regarding the calculator app request. “Do the math” ;)

[@kahki2704]

Why can’t they add low power mode aswell???

[@imtiyazhasankhan]

that's why Apple is The biggest Brand. it's provide more better user experience with any other Brands. I Love Apple and Steve Jobs too.

[@izrarshahzad7512]

A wise man once said: Something is better than nothing.

[@aguasadonas8346]

ok

[@ItsYourBoiUhh]

@@jonathanblacksmith your comparison works because you're comparing apple products to cancer lol

[@cyanscrewdriver2092]

@@jonathanblacksmith I’m pretty sure no one wants cancer. We all want a calculator

[@trentbosnic]

In this case though, there are hundreds of iPad calculator apps on the app store, so there isn't nothing and there's not much incentive for Apple to dump a bunch of capital into building one specifically for the iPad.

[@munchlax633]

@@trentbosnic It shouldn't be necessary to put users at risk

[@suchithakurapati1085]

literally had to download calculator app from the App Store today and this video pops up on my recommendation. (I’ve been enduring with no calculator on my iPad since more than a year and have been calculating things by pen and paper or just from google. I’ve finally got tired of it today.) But seriously tho they should make one asap for iPads as a lot of students use it make their things going.

[@ericfielding2540]

They did finally release a weather app for iPad in 2023 (or maybe late 2022). Still no calculator.

[@ahmedhusseinabdi2920]

A calculator doesn’t have to be Mind blowing!! It is an essential app

[@Coolie-ds4tu]

I doesn't have to come with candy crush adds either. This is the point

[@YourHQ]

Why do you guys even need a Calculator

[@TheQballChannel]

@@YourHQ are you an adult?

[@YourHQ]

@@TheQballChannel what

[@TheQballChannel]

@@YourHQ calculators are so useful lmao

[@dyslexicstoner2408]

4:05 "They didn't include copy and paste until years after Android because they wanted to make sure it was truly great" I am overwhelmed with confusion

[@yousufahmad2454]

Confusion is overwhelmed by Apple

[@HandledToaster2]

And it's not even good. At all. I cringe when I try to use an iPhone's Copy/Paste.

[@yousufahmad2454]

@@HandledToaster2 yes

[@utubekullanicisi]

@@HandledToaster2 It’s not that bad lol. But yeah, Apple waited 1-2 years to include copy-paste function, and developed things like the magnifier so you could see what you were copying better and be more precise, but they later went on to ditch that in 2019 with iOS 13. I think there’s no ‘correct’ way to do it but it seems like even Apple has been confused about this as much as us.

[@HandledToaster2]

@@utubekullanicisi Idk, I feel like the iPhone fights with me when I try to do it. On Android I just need to hold and drag my finger. We still have a magnifier on Android too lol I just realized.

[@dtam4128]

3:08 When my mom asks me why I didn't do my homework

[@brainybananaproduction]

Had I known this earlier, in those 10 years, I could have learned coding and design my own basic calculator app!!😅

[@weesenz1992]

3:33 me telling my teacher why I have not been submitting homework

[@elmafrio7653]

Xd so relatable

[@SunIsLost]

lol

[@neelamverma8167]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@illiiilli24601]

me too thanks

[@albal156]

Yayyyyyy I found a place int he world where deadlines indeed do not exist.

[@lucidity1230]

Lol, that answer by Craig felt like he had no good answer and it was just a load of jargon to get around it, in all honesty.

[@Mahid753]

I can't believe I had to scroll down so much to find someone with some common sense

[@lucidity1230]

@@johnwilburn4445 Just felt like Apple jargon... I don't know. You can tell he hesitated. To each their own, I don't really care, lol. I wrote my own calculator app which does all I need it to without ads.

[@lucidity1230]

@Galavant No, I didn't put it on the app store because it costs money to. I can push it out to GitHub if you want to build it yourself.

[@liberty0758]

He'd be a great politician. Saying a lot without actually saying anything useful.

[@Cobalt985]

Obviously lmao. They aren't gonna have a good answer for something like that, and a LOT of interviews with big companies are either an advertisement or just a load of random garbage to deflect from questions they don't wanna answer.

[@megacap55]

I remember was around a pdf that was like a calculator for any device

[@Htbaa]

I’ve had an iPad since the iPad 3 and I was pretty sure that one had a calculator. But maybe my memory is wrong. Don’t recall the iOS version. When I got the 2017 model (having been out of an iPad for a while) I suddenly had to install a 3rd party app for that.

[@avaa1217]

This was a stupid decision on their part. We don’t need a special calculator. A regular one would be fine.

[@MonsieurArlequin]

if they are going to create an amazing one, it better be able to do graphing calculations and advance calculus

[@ADeeSHUPA]

@@MonsieurArlequin calculus

[@kushagraasthana532]

You can download a regular calculator from app store

[@Not_Claptrap]

@@kushagraasthana532 I shouldn't need to download one from the app store. Those come with ads anyway

[@kushagraasthana532]

@@Not_Claptrap use online calculator on browser 😂

[@immortalsun]

I honestly can’t believe the iPad _still_ doesn’t have a calculator app after twelve- *_TWELVE_* -years.

[@situated4]

13 and counting.

[@abdel-qudus1143]

It have one in spotlight if you need to calculate anything (and it’s faster than an app)

[@Weaselszone]

@@abdel-qudus1143 Not when you must exit an app just to do a simple mathematic equation

[@buuuuuuuuuuuuuu]

I can. Apple products are rubbish.

[@Rektonator]

Well they dont want to rush things you know? Imagine if they just added the messy, complex and counterintuitive calculator app from iPhone top iPad, oh the horror...

[@mercer6323]

Steve Jobs and his wisdom, such a legendary mind...

[@natesullivanw24]

They’re gonna say it’s the first calculator ever

[@TheColinputer]

Make a program to build the calculator design is the most nerdy way to say to your boss. "Dont like how i do it, do it yourself!"

[@Qui-9]

Yea I can't believe what I saw there. I was like "Are you serious...? Did you just build the equivalent of a digital monochrome necklace-bead box, just to skin a single app, once?" 😄

[@beckamsalvatore1422]

I’m the 200th person to like your comment ;)

[@kedharguhan]

And tbh Steve’s design was no different from the original smh

[@extreme123dz]

@@kedharguhan It was worst actually, the riignal one and the variation was better then tyhe Steve lol.

[@Isaac-gh5ku]

Scott should have told Jobs that back in 2010, since Jobs did once back in 1981. Unless Steve Jobs was not free to redesign the calculator app for the iPad back then.

[@judeguzlan7177]

this wouldn’t be an “issue” if steve jobs just let the iPads ship with the calculators… they literally could have updated it later with an iPadOS update

[@mikaelaakervik6794]

They could just include the calculator app in a iPadOS update too

[@gracie5463]

Yeah. Like he really thinks we actually care about what it looks like, like no.

[@emadahmed7145]

Can't be blaming Jobs after 10+ years.

[@07theamazing]

@@emadahmed7145 watch me

[@yarvewhraewlrhaewoirjaeowi5959]

@@gracie5463 that’s just you broh

[@IsaacFoster..]

Who the hell would use the calculator and go "damn this looks ugly"

[@jorelplay8738]

Yeah basically classic Apple smelling it’s own farts. They’d rather do something eye catching than something useful.

[@andrewdavid5928]

"It's better to have no calculator at all than an ugly calculator" The logic of Steve Jobs, the greatest sociopathic control freak of all time.

[@hahdanghongha7810]

if he s still alive, he will add the bettet calculator later.

[@elingrome5853]

thats why the iphone was the iphone... not the Sony DFX100-W EXTRABOOST

[@nathanielc8213]

I can understand this for 2 weeks and it ships in the first patch/update, but 11 years?

[@SvSGaming]

@@nathanielc8213 They aren’t including it now to save face on PR. If Jobs was still around it would be done by now.

[@SapphireTvYt]

I think the utility must be there at any cast... Steve was a freak who got lucky enough to get what he wanted.

[@TheBeautyBunnyChannel]

I’ve never owned an iPad and yet finding about this has enraged me

[@racheljones8192]

it is so annoying to not have a calculator own my iPad.

[@bandokaysauntie8666]

@@racheljones8192 agreed. Most of the 3rd party calculators are rubbish

[@gammacxy]

@@racheljones8192 bro I have a iPad and if I wanted a calculator I just use my iPhone 7

[@exodia_right_leg]

It enrages me rn as I write this with my iPad

[@dazzle_x]

@@gammacxy i get it know they remove a feature or two from a device to force you buy another device for it you'll see in about 10 years phone batteries and Camera need to be bought separatly

[@joeldanielsson]

job is such a legend, loved that guy

[@ragnarokofborg]

My question is why didn't they redesign the thing as Jobs wanted (graphing calculator, 3D plotting, animated, basically an iPad version of a TI98 or something), then included it standard in iPad 2?

[@TobiasSN]

I imagine one of the reasons Steve Jobs dismissed the original calculator app was that scaling up the iPhone version might make the iPad seem like just a bigger iPhone, and not a distinct product.

[@daltonmojica]

Should’ve prioritised iPadOS and iPad-centric features from the start then. For a long time, iPad Pros were just expensive regular iPads, which were in turn basically glorified giant iPhones.

[@reevanamin5865]

They could've made an interface similar to Casio or Texas instruments' scientific calculator

[@wisconsinwintergreen6296]

@@daltonmojica Yeah only recently have iPads started to be pushed a little past normal iOS, with it now being compatible with a second display and everything. Not complaining, it's good

[@TamilEelam1]

So removing the calculator app would suddently make the iPad, not a giant iPhone? Cut the crap!

[@3mar00ss6]

guess what it's a bigger iPod now .•°(ಥ▽ಥ)ﾉｼ°•.

[@cezargotrobbed]

“steve jobs isnt ceo of apple anymore” thats a funny way to say he died

[@Samuel_Confeti]

😂😑😑😑

[@ian.williamson]

Well he was fired from ceo long before his death, but yeah he. He doesn’t do much of anything anymore

[@cezargotrobbed]

@@ian.williamson how do you get fired as the CEO, arent you the one who does the firing?

[@ian.williamson]

@@cezargotrobbed I think either the board of directors voted on it because they didn’t like what he was doing with the company or he got up himself because he didn’t want to work himself until he died; he wanted to enjoy life. A lot of decisions aren’t even made by the ceo though, he’s more like the president and the board of directors is like congress.

[@Wazaply]

@@ian.williamson That’s dumb. he can be voted out when he’s the founder??

[@oryoruk]

"only add features that improve the user experience" → same company that gave its customers the touch bar

[@simev500]

That was good artistic license by Jobs.

[@ardentdrops]

"Probably helps more than it hurts" -Goes 10 years without being able to do basic math on a math machine.

[@jeckk6310]

But if they added a shit calculator to your ipad you’d probably end up using a different one anyways no?

[@ishansharma2463]

@@jeckk6310 no, I don't need to have an extraordinary beautiful calculator to do a calculation I need to do for 5 sec. Neither am I gonna show off to my friends if I had an amazing calculator. It's just a dumb excuse for a lazy behaviour.

[@willcortes810]

Taking in count that they already made a calculator for all the other apple devices, that means they have a calculator good enough for their standards... They just have to port it and make it bigger ANYTHING ELSE

[@ardentdrops]

@@jeckk6310 you telling me apple can't come up with a good calculator for OVER TEN YEARS? But somehow a third party doesn't need that long? What makes apple so much more incompetent than all the third parties making apps?

[@JustinEmlay]

@@jeckk6310 No.