The New ToneX FX are INSANE!! (How did they do this?)

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HW checks out the new ToneX FX and they are awesome! This is a serious GOAT move from ToneX. It may not be enough to replace your whole pedalboard but it will kick off some pedals for sure!
Bravo IK!

[@NO-TALK-GuitarPlugin]

As a passionate, I put a decent amount of money in my guitar passion. I used to have kemper/AxeFxII then III, but since I have my ToneX, and NAM plugin I finally sold everything and spend my money in guitars. I’m TOTALLY addicted to ToneX and ToneX Cloud but also NAM and ToneHunt free library.

[@DaveCortesMusic]

What is a NAM plugin?

[@juliamarekwierzchowscy7862]

@@DaveCortesMusicNeural Amp Modeller completely free / open source. Check it out. Abovementioned Tonehunt as well (profiles of the amps/pedals for NAM)

[@arthursoares5413]

@@DaveCortesMusic neural amp modeler

[@MatthiasBuesing]

I still think it is a major fault that Tones has no overdrive built in. I'm a metal guy and a decent captured amp has to be boosted...🤷🏻‍♂

[@TyGerhardt]

I just adopted the Tonex platform about 4 or 5 months ago as a way to upgrade my Helix rack’s amp tones and free up processing power for extra effects by not using its amp models. I was already pretty amazed by how good the Tonex sounded and how easy it was to use and was already all in. I even got a Source Audio ZIO to goose the front end and give it a little more of that “straight into an amp feel” and I’m feeding a Boss OD-200 into the ZIO. Absolutely loving my rig now. But this new update is just incredible. Not a ton of effects but the ones that are there sound great (except for the spring reverb settings…not a fan but the other reverbs are great). The Tonex was already a mind blowing value. Now I can do about 80% of everything I want to do with a guitar rig with just the Tonex and, say, a pair of Tech 21 Power Engine 60’s. The Helix covers all the oddball and ambient effects I like to use for the rest of my playing. Mind blowing value. 😎

[@johnfitzgerald1055]

I have a feeling a Tonex Pro is coming in the near future that will have more effect algorithms from their amplitube series.

[@jroobz]

i mean tonex one was a no brainer when it was just profiles...

[@eanroad]

Will your ToneX packs now include the amp capture with effect presets (much like your Kemper stuff)? If so, will your previous ToneX packs be updated and be available to customers who previously purchased them? Love your tones, cheers!

[@hannesganahl6384]

I've tried everything now and I'm really impressed! All modulation effects sound excellent and I was mostly even able to leave the basic settings. The delays are simple, but sound good and finally there is a usable spring reverb! I had problems with the reverbs before the update. I think the plate reverb sounds great, I didn't liked all the others. I still have one wish: please give us a better room reverb, then I would be completely happy!

[@nevessl576]

I would bet they're working on more versions of the effects they've added. This is so great! So glad I bought a ToneX. May end up with a second one. lol

[@DavidJosephBoth]

i'm about to buy the ONE for overdrive's and boosts before the tonex large pedal (which i've had for a while). I've owned a lot of guitar stuff, own several grands worth of amps currently... but i'm totally content with the Tonex sound finally. I owned two kempers, neural plugs, line 6 stuff... and other software plugs. I prefer tonex to anything i've tried beside real amps.

[@donniejean]

@@DavidJosephBoththat’s good to know, I have all of those as well, and just preordered my first white Tonex. I like simplicity so hope it’s easy to use :)

[@USAJ31]

I don't know why they don't just combine it with all of the Amplitube effects.

[@SenfSenferson]

I think it's processor Limitations. The Effects added are pretty basic and probably light on the Processor. Maybe some of the Amplitube Effects have some modeling and need to much processing power.

[@TyGerhardt]

I like your take on adding some more effects to further justify using a Tonex One as a stand alone effects pedal. I have two full size Tonex pedals to do different left/right amps in my main rig. I was going to get a couple of Tonex One’s to put on my parallel looper/guitar synth sidecar board. One hears the term “game changer” thrown around a lot but IK Multimedia truly has done just that by creating possibilities that I hadn’t even considered. They just seem to get it. Can’t wait to see what they’re coming up with in the next few years. 👍

[@grahamokeefe9406]

I need some kind of stomp box mode. I can't be switching patches just to turn on a chorus.

[@redkurn]

use midi, won't have any problem or chance then.

[@grahamokeefe9406]

@@redkurn Then I have to get a new piece of gear. :P. Probably gonna sell the Tonex.

[@micawbermandolins]

@@grahamokeefe9406 I use the Ampero for this reason

[@redkurn]

@@grahamokeefe9406tonex one, I’ve seen with stomp box mode, didn’t notice if Jason Sadites was using the firmware we are seeing in this video or not, also don’t know if that’s coming to the tonex big pedal. Either way you have MIDI to control it and it’s too easy. You might even have gear that can send MIDI already and if you don’t it’s a $100 issue (or less if you find a better deal).

[@TrumpetsInMy4x12]

Amp sounds and effects sound good in this vid. Biggest issue for me was capturing my amps. That's what I want to do with this. I got like1,2 successful caps out of 15-20 tries. Wayyyyy too much work. If I was a person who wanted someone else to do that work and could live with the hellscape that is the ToneX software; this would be a no brainer.

[@ToneJunkieTV]

Yeah it can be a bit cumbersome to figure out.

[@swardmusic]

Just getting it installed and connected was ridiculous. Why!!??

[@chiquiabello4372]

The biggest thing about this for me is that it shows IK Multimedia's commitment to becoming an unignorable force in this market space. The announcement of this free update weeks ago may have really thrown a monkey wrench into the business models of Neural and Kemper, and certainly sent more than a few ripples into the Line 6 and Fractal ponds. I'm thinking of gadgets that came out recently that I either bought (Nano Cortex, thinking of returning it and am also considering selling my HX Stomp XL), bought and returned (POD Express), or pedals I am considering buying (Kemper Player) and in one fell swoop, IKM has made both my Tonex Pedal and Tonex ONE better and has me thinking I'll stay and focus on their ecosystem because they bring so much more value and they are really upping the customer experience. Not bad when you consider that they had really been players in another space before Tonex Pedal came out.

[@veciroker]

FREE upgrade, can you believe it?

[@alexei_u]

It is an UPDATE, not upgrade.

[@veciroker]

@alexei_u A software update is typically a release containing enhancements to the current version. An upgrade is a whole new version of software that represents a significant change or major improvement. So, it's an upgrade for sure.

[@sparacing]

agreed...they added functionality that was previously not available to the device...thats an upgrade in my book

[@jimmcdougall9973]

Same as the full Kemper, but half the quality.

[@alexei_u]

@@veciroker nope, then all hx stomp fw updates are not updates But they actually are.

[@FernandoPaul]

Do you believe the IK Multimedia will release a complete ToneX multieffects like the Kemper Stage or Quad Cortex in the future?

[@jackprice7828]

I got your 68 Twin pack. TJ does the best captures IMHO. After trying hundreds of captures, the TJ have been the best thus far. BTW love that Suhr. Pickups are incredible. Can't wait to get the FX update this week.

[@hgostos]

I think the release date is the 24th of November

[@nickm.9474]

Ugh!!! Was hoping sooner!!

[@nomadptgalexandrecarvalho2133]

1 Day left.

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

In Kemper world what level upgrade is this: level II or level III? And how much does it cost to upgrade get these new FX?

[@guitartoneSA]

The FX upgrade still doesn't equal the Kemper Player Level 1 FX with no upgrades...do you have a Kemper Player?

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

@@guitartoneSA No, I require more than 2 FX slots. And I am not going to pay $1,100 -1,300 AUD for inferior amp captures. The new ToneX beats it on 3 counts. Better amp profiles, FX and price it only costs $739 AUD.

[@allstopblue5717]

If you have the actual full Kemper profiler it would cost zero. Kemper has been updating their flagship product for over a decade at zero cost

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

@@allstopblue5717 Unfortunately the profiles haven't gotten any better and it's over 10 years old. Kemper 2 now that would be something, as it is no thanks.

[@johanrautenbach]

I have to disagree. You just have not heard the profiles made by the right profilers. I have owned my Kemper since 2013 and the profiles now are in a different league than back then. Sure the DSP is old but I have done gigs with other players playing QC and Helix saying they wished they bought a Kemper. I think everyone is making great sounding tools but I will take a Kemper any day of the week. The Kemper is just a machine that plays good or bad profiles and there are some damn good profiles out there.

[@cstrempler]

MIDI control via the USB port

[@fabianvasquezjr8852]

It's November 5th, I got a dual Tonex + HX Stomp pedalboard build it's not necessary but I'd love to use my HX Stomp for other things if the tonex fx are any good they sound good on KZbin but will see, wishing they'd hurry up!

[@69Firebird]

Thanks for the video! With the new update…if this was my only pedal for a live gig and I had(for example only!) 12 different tones for the night, does that mean I would set up 4 banks of 3 and page/tap through the pedal? Would there be a better way?

[@64cousins]

Tonex has dragged me kicking a screaming into the digital world and this just puts a big cherry on top. I'm running it in the loop of an hx effects and I'm now starting to think I don't need to do that.

[@diontes1480]

Time to change out the hx effects for a STOMP. Dual amps are so lush. Add a cheapo zoom ms50 and man, you do can anything/anywhere just about.

[@Gibbo1050]

Similar for me. Got a used Headrush MX5 for a good price. Then got the Tonex1 and have been using it in the loop of the MX5 as my amp and the MX5 for effects. Seeing this update I'm now thinking just do everything with the Tonex1. Or, get the big Tonex for a bit more flexibility.

[@CanaldoOTA]

Nice video! How do you compare the FX quality with something like Kemper/Helix basic effects?!

[@a-fox]

Sounds like the 80's!

[@mikesage2043]

In your discussion of whether this can replace my other effects, I was thinking I might have to have my DD-5 for a tap tempo. But, the IK website says that the new effects will all support tap tempo. I'm curious how they did this, but am hoping that on the full three button Tonex pedal that you simply tap the currently selected footswitch to set the tempo. Or, perhaps you connect a momentary pedal to the expression jack. I'm hoping it's the former, but could live with the latter. Wishing you covered this in your video

[@tonepilot]

Yup, sounds killer. I just got the white one. So many great sounds, I don't know how to organize them!

[@jeremygorszczyk]

And just like that, the nano cortex is already out of touch/date (NB: even if it already was)

[@818Kira]

7:35 “this would be a very, ya know *proceeds to play*” I felt that lol

[@simonsmith2642]

Shimmerverb! I dont have the pedal I just use it “in the box”. Ive been an amplitube guy since the beginning and now have tonex. Love them both.

[@Bridging_the_Political_Divide]

Best overdrive pedal to push my 69 Superbass, perhaps from JTM45 light overdrive to perhaps 800 type overdrive on the high end? Recommendations? Could this new Tonex be a good match? Something as simple as a Blues Driver? Ive had a lot of high end amps, Ecstacy, SLO, JVM410, Kemper Stage, FM3, Headrush Prime, all great for sure, but nothing is as big and immediate as my Superbass. In a whole nother league....

[@billsstudio2528]

Agree with most statements on good tones from Tonex. I did compare a good clean tone with verb/dly from Tonex and my Fender Tone Master. Basically a toss up for a super quick comparison. Which is saying a lot for Tonex. 179 bucks for Tonex vs 1500 + for TMP.

[@johnplainsong9769]

Thank you IK Multimedia!!!

[@vitaliistep]

I'm interested if it increases the overall latency, as I guess it requires much more processing power and the hardware is still the same. Definitely sounds amazing though, especially for the price.

[@itimoldenburg]

Can you do a comparison video between this and the kemper? Thinking about selling my kemper and buying a tonex.

[@ToneJunkieTV]

The options here are very limited compared to the other units. This is still primarily an amp capture pedal solution type thing now with some basic and lovely sounding effects but it’s a bit unfair to compare it to other pedals that are also multi effects.

[@itimoldenburg]

@ thank you. Sounds like I should keep my Kemper.

[@ToneJunkieTV]

It's a good idea for a video though so yeah maybe I will! LOL

[@tperry5839]

I’m a junkie for tone junkie 😂 ❤ love it dude you rock

[@guitarmanmo339]

When will it be released?

[@ToneJunkieTV]

I think they said November sometime so... soon!

[@filip5150]

@@ToneJunkieTVhopefully not Neural DSP Soon 😂

[@donniejean]

@@filip5150😂

[@vitorcali4684]

How are you able to monitor the changes you make through the app? I can’t hear any knob changes unless I move the preset to the pedal

[@Beginner-bt9fe]

Cool video!!! I have a question...Is it possible to edit the depth or rate of the modulation with the knobs of the tonex?

[@rockinfreakappotomus]

HW (or anyone who knows), can the amp/cab block be bypassed so that the effects only could be used with a real amp?

[@nnnownow]

Sure can bud :)

[@rockinfreakappotomus]

@@nnnownow Thanks! I think that puts a big ToneX squarely on my list of things to buy.

[@davidjoel111]

I know nothing! But if they were able to add effect algorithms, would it be crazy for them to add gain pedals as effects? Like be able to load a pedal capture in front of an amp capture on the same preset?

[@OldSchoolSoundATX]

Great demo and playing!

[@Aaron78155]

Man, your playing is sick! I’m jealous!

[@rocknrollboise]

When does the update drop?

[@redkurn]

they released one the other day, but this wasn't in it... sometime this month now that it's november...

[@pclindholm]

Sweet playing today man

[@ILoveTelecasters]

Does the pedal allow for midi clock for the delay?

[@Paul-D]

yeh that's impressive. I bought a nano cortex and returned it within 48 hours - didnt like it at all no matter whose captures I tried.

[@mannymejia7972]

Love that opening riff

[@SunnyBeeRandomTuber]

I really wish for this IK box which is a mini PC designed for taking your amplitube 4 and 5 presets with you anywhere.......so many years of having both amplitube 4 max and more recently 5......i really would want that plug and play solution at love gogs without looking/ connecting to the systemr and ability to tweak it at home through the software....

[@scottbecker3485]

Have both IK devices. Ecstatic about what they’re doing. Still hoping they could revamp their messy software and make it more visceral…

[@redkurn]

nice they added modulation too... wish they'd release this already. update a couple days ago came and went with nothing new.

[@brianmiller3287]

I apologize if this is a dumb question, but how many effects can you run at a time???

[@stratocumulusnimbostratus328]

Does the Tonex come with all these amp models or do you have to buy?

[@PatricioStiglich]

There are some free and others to buy, I personally, till now, haven´t had the necessity to buy any capture, there are tons, TONS!! of captures people do every day to pick up

[@EricMakingWaves]

The best sounding system for the smallest price. I don’t see a reason to even consider other modelers let alone real amps. Now now.

[@alexheltemes]

no overdrive fx, cause those are captures? correct?

[@ToneJunkieTV]

Correct just Mod, Delay and Reverb 👍

[@antoniormj]

I am still wondering how I can sync the presets with the pedal adding delay, chorus, etc. Is that even possible? I didn't find any video explaining that. It must be just a button somewhere lol

[@3GunPhotog]

Still waiting for my anniversary edition…..

[@msienk01]

Looks like no slot for overdrive / boost beforre the amp.

[@michawojtasmusic]

Tonex or Cortex? (Or old Kemper)?

[@nickg476]

HW, can you confirm that effects are locked to certain slots? For example, I prefer tremolo in front of a reverb. I don’t believe that’s possible with this unit, correct? Thanks ✌

[@ToneJunkieTV]

You can move them around, each have a before and after switch which places them before or after the amp.

[@youscreamiscream]

@@ToneJunkieTV quick question, where do you have your input gain set to with your paid captures?

[@nickg476]

@@ToneJunkieTV I get that, but can I place modulation after reverb?

[@nickg476]

I guess I should be more specific. Can I put both reverb and modulation post amp with modulation after reverb?

[@ToneJunkieTV]

@@nickg476don’t think so

[@timmcvittie436]

Love that guitar 😍

[@pyropedals5553]

Can you edit the effects etc direct from the pedal on the fly without connecting to the computer? Thanks

[@filip5150]

On the big one yes

[@RICO_SUAVE21]

They need to make this a permanent addition, not limited!!!

[@tonoselectricos]

As far as I know, it's permanent.

[@ToneJunkieTV]

The limited edition is just the white colored big Tonex pedal that comes with additional captures from people like tone junkie pre loaded. All these updates with the effects etc are permanent for all units old and new. I think the unit will be available for everyone in a couple weeks.

[@Guitarsuphu]

do you have the worship performance pack for this TONEX? thanks

[@TheOnlyGuitarFather]

I’ve always said if IK got into the multi fx game they would take over industry. Step 1 complete.

[@Johnny-oy9fh]

Sounds great

[@diegooliveirabenjamin]

How is you gain set on the ToneX my man?

[@ToneJunkieTV]

In the pedal I recommend 8.5 with my captures.

[@DreidMusicalX]

I just went to see if they had the updates yet for the regular Tonex I have and they had an update, to 1.7.6 but It's said for reliability for new anniversary edition and general reliability improvements. But I still didn't see any new effects yet. I HOPE IT COMES SOON~!

[@ToneJunkieTV]

I think it’s coming pretty soon… “weeks not months”

[@jr0706]

Is this available now or is this still in beta?

[@vjau75]

Available sometimes during november.

[@berndkiltz]

F... me that sounds awesome. Free Update. 197 Euro Pedal. THIS is a Gamechanger!

[@hairman49er]

Bro! Your playing skill is 🔥

[@ToneJunkieTV]

Thanks 🔥

[@CSLBRK]

is the update available like, right now?

[@TonefulPraise]

They’re the same effects that are in their X series pedals, aren’t they?

[@NikolausBrocke]

Why did you demo it in mono?

[@nathanieldahman9268]

When is this update supposed to drop?

[@sparacing]

it sounds like it will coincide with the release of the limited edition white tonex....so on or about Nov 24th (date credit to @hgostos)

[@jjm9741]

Hope the software version is going to have this upgrade.

[@ToneJunkieTV]

It will. Im actually using the software.

[@jjm9741]

@@ToneJunkieTV ver 1.7?

[@v-for-vieira]

I really miss some auto-wah, vibrato and octave in this pedal...

[@hawedehre]

What, they sold the unit without effects? How could you buy it then 🎃👍🤭

[@SenseiKreese]

Can this take the place of your existing FX? For me no. I use whammys, wahs, auto wahs, envelopes in my funk metal playing. I keep asking IK to make a proper full multi-fx unit with expression pedal - like a Helix. I just want one board I can lay down and be done with it, amps and fx and exp pedal, all done, and in high quality. There's also benefits to having it all in one. Just look at what you can do with Helix snapshots, I'm hooked on snapshots, hate old school boards. Until that happens, I'll be using my Helix LT. I keep hoping Line 6 bring out a damn successor coz it's due, Fractals are too expensive, and QC isn't it for me, too small, pedals crammed, no light based EXP pedal which I really want. The Helix still sounds good. It's not the best, but it's still good. I just need that all in one. Whoever gets there first will get my money. IK or Line 6.

[@yikelu]

HX Effects/HX Stomp/HX Stomp XL + ToneX in the loop. Snapshots control the ToneX using MIDI. I get using the big Helix/LT, in fact I'm hoping Line 6 add some form of captures next update. But for compactness and portability, I prefer the Stomp + other pedals approach.

[@64cousins]

For me, maybe. Although the hx effects is really a great controller for the tonex, I think I'd miss that part.

[@zakklee2556]

hey ik add midi to the tonex one. then I buy 3.

[@musicproductionvideos5019]

DL'd the update. Can't see the new stuff!

[@babahias]

Will you at some point in the video say that the Kemper is still king or do I have to listen to you just raving about the ToneX for 20 minutes?! The betrayal is crazy!😞😞

[@ToneJunkieTV]

😂 I still play a kemper ever time I leave the house because I prefer and all in one unit. The ToneX is a capture player that needs to be on a pedal board or paired with other things to be a full rig. This update gives us some effects but the selection is still pretty basic and while you can use them and they sound good you cant really gif with just this…. IMHO. I love ToneX and Kemper, Sooze plays his ToneX board more than his kemper now but I’m still all kemper on every gig.

[@JayTheLane]

​@@ToneJunkieTVI guess to an extent this soaks fir itself. I'm holding out for a full floorboard from IK. If I could get Amplitube/ToneX in a modeller then I'd be very happy.

[@NickRiceFilm]

very cool

[@stevedennis6733]

Does anyone know why IK have not made the Beta version available to all people. Or have they? Really unclear.

[@ToneJunkieTV]

There are a couple bugs in the beta I have. They sent it to the creators who made stuff for the limited edition pedal. I think the bugs are getting sorted and then it’s going out to everyone pretty soon.

[@stevedennis6733]

@@ToneJunkieTV Thanks for clarifying the current situation

[@JpeterZoom-gt3pn]

I just don't if I could take another another video referring to 'amp simulators' as 'amazing' or 'luscious' or 'fantastic' or 'a plexi sound'!?!?!?!?!?!

[@ToneJunkieTV]

The back button is where it's always been. 👋

[@nickg476]

@@ToneJunkieTV 😂👍

[@sparacing]

QQ: any chance with the new effects blocks you may be doing a worship pack for the Tonex now? Would love to be able to purchase the similar worship packs you have for Kemper and Helix. I know the Tonex is limited to just the one delay and one modulation (like chorus as you mentioned) vs. (Im assuming...i own neither) the Kemper and Helix...but is there enough that it would be feasible? (both from the cost of your time to develop the capture and could the hw recreate a satsifactory tone/sound) Thanks for the vid! This move while may be calculated, is very very customer friendly and going above the industry standard...kudos IK!

[@USAJ31]

This is so stupid. They really need to just put all the AWESOME AMPLITUBE EFFECTS pedals in there and call it a fuckin day.

[@EmanueleInnocenzi]

can we use the tonex fx part without amp?

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

Why would you do that their amp capturing is objectively better than the Kemper!

[@ToneJunkieTV]

Yes. You can defeat the amp and can portions and it’s just an effects pedal.

[@EmanueleInnocenzi]

@@vaughanmacegan4012 The situations can be many, if I have the opportunity to use a real amplifier I will not use the captures but I can use it to manage the effects saving space in the pedalboard, very simple

[@swardmusic]

​@@EmanueleInnocenzithis.

[@nickg476]

@@vaughanmacegan4012 you keep saying objectively better. When was the last time you sent a nulled guitar signal to FOH? That’s the only way anybody is gonna hear a noticeable difference. In a mix, it becomes completely subjective. And they all sound great! Let Kemper people Kemper and you do you. All conversations don’t need to be “l’m right and you’re wrong” scenarios!

[@qualaup]

Act normal man. Just a couple of ordenairy effects attached to the Tonex, that's all.

[@briancoyne6700]

Digital Fizz 👎

[@kane6529]

Saying things like that’s a GOAT move makes you a Beta sir! #ToanboneBeta

[@ToneJunkieTV]

@@kane6529 😂 Tomorrow morning when I wake up to the laughter of my 3 healthy children, and my wife making me eggs my favorite way with coffee…I’ll stroll down my stairs, sit with her on the couch, we usually turn the fireplace on in the morning and listen to Christmas music this time of year… I’ll put away my thankfulness and instead remember that some guy named “kane6529” on KZbin thinks I’m a beta… Nevermind… I won’t think of you at all.

[@prestomattwine]

Fix the dog shit software first, before adding more to these Tonex pedals.

[@swardmusic]

V true

[@JayTheLane]

The software is dire and so convoluted and confusing.

[@vic-jm6yz]

How far are we from IK saying “hey, just use a TRS cable and you now can use two different captures”? They have the blocks 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@fritzkleinman]

Update does not work. I am underwhelmed by Tonex's ineptitude...lol...

[@ToneJunkieTV]

@@fritzkleinman I’m on a beta, this is what the next update will be. It will be out sometime in November.

[@guitartoneSA]

Still doesn't equal the Kemper Player Levels 1 FX with no upgrades.

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

In what way? ToneX now has more than 2 FX slots, which from Kemper is a slap in the face to "every" single modern guitar player. The amp capturing technology is 'objectively' better than Kemper, see Leo Gibson videos on the matter, and the ToneX is almost half the price of the Kemper Player. Kemper $1,100-$1,399 AUD; ToneX $739. I don't know about you but having change from $1,000 in this economic climate is a God-send. I really can't see why you would say that it's better. In what way is the Kemper objectively better?

[@allstopblue5717]

@@vaughanmacegan4012I mean at what point is it just worth buying a full on Kemper though? They update it for free for many many many years now. Suck it up and buy a solid unit and don’t worry about “upgrades” in the future

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

@@allstopblue5717 The problem is the Kemper profiles, they aren't that great. I mean that hid range hump is very noticeable. ToneX is objectively better check Leo Gibson vids on that. I want really good quality amp sims I am hoping that soon there will be a Unit that is using NAMM amp profiles with a full-on FX suite, then, I will be happy and fork over whatever amount of money they want.

[@youscreamiscream]

@@vaughanmacegan4012 the kemper isn't better, just like fractal fanbois who feel that expensive equals better...lol

[@nickg476]

@@youscreamiscream Yeah, at this point, it’s all about which workflow you get on the best with. They all sound great.

[@funnycatcali]

Yes, Tonex, its a great bargain. But they sound like bargain effects, in all fairness. HX Stomp Effects make Tonex effects sound like Toys. HX Stomp has World-Class Reverbs and Delays.

[@vpovince1001]

I guess you are in the business and already have the beta version??

[@spada60]

Line 6 sucks. Fuckin digital sounding crap.

[@BillySoundFarm]

"forget all the capture stuff"... don't worry, I've already forgotten it. I tried making captures for tonex, spent an afternoon, couldn't get it to work. Just sticking to my kemper going foward.

[@wildmilne]

Tonex is so easy to use and capture. Shouldn’t have given up.

[@mehAudio]

I can only assume that it FEELS incredible to play. The sounds hitting my ears are not doing it for me. Especially the chorus.

[@jimmcdougall9973]

Very easy. Step 1 - deconstruct a Kemper to see how it works. 2 - steal the technology. 3 - market it as if it’s something completely new.

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

Well, that would be apt "iff" they didn't improve on the defects of the Kemperunit. The amp capturing is objectively better, don't believe me check out Leo Gibson videos on that topic to see for yourself.

[@jimmcdougall9973]

@ I have been using a Kemper Head for over ten years. Zero defects.

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

@@jimmcdougall9973 But are the profiled amps objectively better than the ToneX, the answer is no!

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

@@jimmcdougall9973 Good for you - but the simple fact of the matter is the ToneX profiles are objectively better than Kemper. At least with the Kemper Head you get for pre/post FX which is something.

[@allstopblue5717]

@@jimmcdougall9973same. Had mine for many many many years. Free updates the whole time. No problems. These new buyers think they’re skirting the game with the tone x. lol Kemper is a solid product and a proven solid company. Yes the cost is high to get in but if you buy the actual full profiler head or rack version you are set

[@mrnorbotron3308]

When will it be released?

[@ToneJunkieTV]

I think they said November sometime. I would imagine before they all go home for Thanksgiving vacation.