Tony Hutson: Disorderly and Evil Men Don't Like Our Tradition

In the sermon What Job Didn't Have, preached during the Winter Revival at Hopewell Independent Baptist Church, Tony Hutson makes the claim that liberals and moderates don't like the word "tradition," and disorderly and evil men don't keep traditions.
Original Sermon Link: • What Job Didn't Have
The argument that Tony Hutson is making can and has been made by every religious group against every group they see as dissenting from them. It's been used by the Orthodox against the Roman Catholics. It has been used by the Roman Catholics against the Protestants. It has been used by the Anglicans against the dissenters. And it seems to be used more and more by IFB preachers against those who decide to do things differently than they were taught.
Even the Scriptures in II Thessalonians are used incorrectly. When Tony Hutson quotes them, he says that Paul states to withdraw from every brother that "walketh not after the traditions." But that's not what Paul said. Paul qualified the word "tradition" with the phrase, "the tradition which he received of us." That's very different than "IFB traditions," unless they IFB is making the same claim that the Catholics, Orthodox, and Anglicans make, that they follow the traditions of Paul and no one else does.
But what were the traditions that Paul handed down? Were they red-book singing? Were they going to church three times a week? Were they four-part harmony? Were they wearing a suit and tie? Did Paul write them into the Bible? And if he did, then we should be asking, "What's the verse for that?"

[@IFBPreachers]

I like this video. I like it because it reveals the truth about the IFB, a truth that for years was denied. What I grew up hearing, and what I was under at Bible college, was everything the IFB did was because that's what the Bible said. Even Sunday morning, Sunday night, and Wednesday night church was because of the Bible. So, it's refreshing to hear someone actually come out and say that it's really the Bible PLUS tradition. And if we can come to that point, we can then say, there is no difference then between them and every other group that has railed against dissenting groups. That's no different mindset than the what the Orthodox say about the Catholics. That's no different than what the Catholics say about the Protestants. That's no different than what the Anglicans were saying in the 1600s towards the non-conformists to the church of England. It's never been the "solo Scriptura" for those groups. It's always been the Bible PLUS tradition. Now, to talk about the verse he read, he totally misrepresented what Paul said, unless he believes that Paul was having church exactly like the IFB does today. Paul didn't say, "Withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after traditions." He said, "Withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us." The "which he received of us" is the qualifying clause of the word "tradition." It's the tradition that Paul himself gave to them. So, here is the question I have for the IFB. What are the traditions that Paul gave to them? You are saying they are unwritten rules? How do you know what the unwritten rules are? Are you telling me that you are keeping the traditions of Paul, because that's the claim of the Catholics. Or is this just another way to bully people into following your own man-made traditions? And further, why would Paul tell them to keep the traditions that he had given them? I'll tell you why. It's because they DIDN"T have the Bible yet! They didn't have all the writings of Paul, the epistles of the other apostles, the gospels, or the Revelation of Jesus Christ. If we know anything about what Paul gave to the churches it is because we have it IN THE BIBLE! It's really that simple. But instead, the IFB that has preached for decades that you are supposed to follow what is in between the covers of "the book" has morphed into what all other religions have become when folks start dissenting from their practices, a group that beats people over the head for not keeping their traditions. Like I said, I like this video and others like it because it reveals the truth about the IFB that has for years been denied.

[@Keep83]

Very well stated. I attended three different IFB churches for about 8 years (did not start out as a Christian with them) and I honestly can that it hurt my faith. Well, maybe “didn’t grow” is a better way to put it. In 9 years I didn’t hear one sermon about grace, love, reconciliation, or walking near to the Lord. It was 90% sin, death and judgement, and 10% politics. Not saying those topics aren’t important, but it got to be where I wasn’t growing in the “grace and knowledge” of Christ. (2 Peter 3:18). I could never put my finger on it because I was a young and impressionable believer and so I didn’t want to rock the boat. But I could tell something was off. I won’t label them as a cult or false church by any means, but they certainly seem to walk a fine edge there, though not intentionally. But definitely rigidly sectarian.

[@B-M-W1989]

I think it's also important to continue reading... you know for context. Because Paul says "For" multiple times, continuing the thought of what he's talking about. And what was he talking about? Mostly idleness.

[@jamation9X]

"Those Catholics and Lutherans and their traditions! We're not like them tho! All our traditions are valid!! We're the good guys and they're the bad guys!" - Nearly every IFB preacher ever

[@thefluffykirbyprincess6307]

Literally the exact same as in the Catholic church, even using the same verses.

[@rsagape7300]

This guy does not think beyond his gut.

[@AslinTheLion]

Gee, it's almost like there's truth in tradition, but that the IFB doesn't want to admit that because it would poke holes in "sola scriptura". Tradition PREDATES the Bible. Don't fight that - that's a good thing. Tradition formed the early church. The early church had the old testament and tradition. And they were as Christian as we are now.

[@jsramseyfamily]

Thought he would bust out the quote of the Ol wiseman Farley - “I live in a van down by the river”.

[@Keep83]

I got saved outside of IBF and started strong. Then I spent 8 years in IFB churches and didn’t grow in “grace knowledge” (2 Peter 3:18). They mean well and many of them love the Lord, but they are definitely a bit heavy-handed with traditions and certain conformist attitudes. And they tended to heavily judge non-IFB churches, sometimes for logical reasons but often for superficial reasons.

[@Macsrus5]

Yes, you are correct 😞😞😞

[@OmarGonzalez-gx1ks]

Acts 7:48 48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet, Stay away from 'Church' Buildings which are 501C3 pagan buildings

[@Keep83]

@@OmarGonzalez-gx1ks Yes, sir, that's a great scripture reference, and I would agree that we need to remember that the Church is the Body of Christ and not a building, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that every Christian church building should be regarded as a "pagan" place. But yes, there's a heavy emphasis in America on the building/infrastructure, while many Christians in nations outside America, especially in places where the faith is forbidden, must meet in homes and secret places. They don't have the luxuries we do.

[@OmarGonzalez-gx1ks]

@@Keep83 👍

[@calvinreichelderfer7989]

I’m pretty sure Job knew God too

[@colonelwesker9068]

2 Thess. That was about idleness not traditions. Job is wisdom literature and has more descriptive texts than prescriptions. And all that prideful gloating about his skills was not about any tradition that the Bible was concerned. These “preachers” need to learn why most denominations require their preachers to go to seminary, which is a masters degree for those whom don’t know, before they are allowed to preach. It’s because you will make very bad and obvious mistakes like these and lead people astray to the “vain triditons of men”. For a bonus round the word traditions in the Bible refers to the Old Testament and the admonishment of the New Testament letters, not the extra scriptural traditions of men that Jesus condemned because they were not in the Old Testament and the Pharisees held them higher than the Old Testament; kinda like Tony is doing. 😮

[@shawnglass108]

Paul had to tell them to keep the traditions they’d been taught. Because they had almost no New Testament writings yet. 2nd Thessalonians was written in about 52A.D. There probably hadn’t been a single Gospel written yet. They definitely didn’t have the completed New Testament. Possibly only a couple letters from Paul. They had to keep the traditions..but even still Paul’s says “the traditions you have been taught”. Past tense. He does not tell them to create new ones for themselves.

[@anewcreature7]

Yikes! And these brainwashed people just sit there...amen-ing.

[@IFBPreachers]

That was one of the things that started to crack the façade for me was seeing people I know just agree with everything the preacher said, while I was sitting there in my mind thinking, "Is anyone actually listening to what he is saying?"

[@anewcreature7]

@@IFBPreachers exactly, brother! One of the reasons I left church buildings, is just how much of a ‘sheeple’ the people are. They just sit there and take it. And on top of that the ‘pastors’ would call them ‘my sheep’ or claim themselves to be the ‘shepherd’, they’re brainwashing these people and they don’t notice it. I understand, sometimes ‘pastors’ may say the wrong things accidentally and I sympathise with them. But after so many wrong unbiblical teachings and it’s obvious they’re twisting scriptures, there’s no way I would continue to attend. So many of these ‘pastors’ seek validation by asking for an ‘amen’ and majority of these people don’t even question if what they heard was biblical or not, they just reply, ‘amen!’ like robots. The worse is when they parrot Ruckman, ‘you don’t amen me, I’ll amen myself…amen amen amen!”

[@Keep83]

I’m glad I found a church where I’m allowed to follow Jesus as well as think critically.

[@shawnglass108]

This is exactly the nonsense that Catholics use to treat their man-created doctrines as equal to scripture. The traditions that Paul was talking about was the Gospel and the truths contained in the scripture that they didn’t have. All they had at the time was the traditions that the Apostles had given them. Because they had almost none of the New Testament scriptures yet. Not even a single Gospel. The traditions that Christians are meant to keep are contained in the completed New Testament which we have.

[@jskipmo]

He just identified his crowd. His crowd is Mark chapter 7.

[@jeremyblack3394]

Lives in a van down by the river

[@PrenticeBoy1688]

In this case, I think it's a trailer down by the river.

[@shawnglass108]

This is the guy who gave a sermon about the Prodigal Son and read the scripture then gave his sermon about where the mother was and how that affected the story..Absolutely nothing to do with anything Jesus was teaching through that story. I would’ve walked out of that church and not even looked back.

[@ryanmagness63]

What’s your verse for that?

[@RonnieSandifer]

Im always confused when he basically turns into Jerry Clower and the Gospel becomes a comedy show but when he tells jokes there is always someone hey-manning him anyway. I think the hey-manning should be more selective lol

[@jennytillery6408]

I about fell out reading your comment! I thought no one but me remembered Jerry.

[@shawnglass108]

Hay Man to that!

[@Moonless6491]

Banjos weren't around 2000 years ago. They must be satanic. They didn't have suits and ties either. All other Christian denominations have their own traditions, but I suppose they are all wrong. Pretty sure King James wasn't a Baptist, let alone an IFB one.

[@jeffdollar1646]

This does explain their love of the "altar call" and other traditions with no scriptural backing.

[@montaguproctor-beauchamp8579]

Oh ok Calvinist LOL

[@bryanstortenbecker2724]

How is this man a preacher? The Bible tells us to flea gluttony. This man is absolutely guilty of the sin of gluttony. He has no self control, a requirement to be an elder. He is disqualified to be a preacher.

[@user-in3mg1sg1w]

Oh yea.. I remember reading that, that pastors must be sinless. NOT!

[@Keep83]

Yes they would say that even drinking alcohol in moderation was sinful but apparently drinking tons of soda and eating fast food every week is okay.

[@debbiebrown4420]

The Bible clearly distinguishes between scripture and manmade traditions and makes it clear that scripture takes priority over traditions. When it gets down to it, old manmade traditions are of the world just like new fads are. True not all traditions are sinful, but neither are all new fabs. Also, one does need a verse to support a rule before pushing a rule. Overwhelming people with countless strict rules puts too much pressure on people.

[@levi-316]

Back home it'll be hog killin time, Amen?

[@michaelshannon6558]

Hutson said that Paul only has tradition. Wrong. He had the Hebrew Bible, the precursor to our Old Testament.

[@rwren]

“He didn’t have King James then”….lol .. no one did tubby!

[@TheProverbsmom]

How many traditions have been handed down by Dr. Diddleydum at the seminary or Bible College, or Brother So-and So did it this way so that's why we do it with no Scriptural basis or principles anywhere? Too many I am afraid. The simplicity of Scripture should lead us to repentance and faith and give us freedom and an abundant life, but somehow we always manage to turn it to bondage. The prophets prophesy falsely, and the people love to have it so!

[@Keep83]

Well said.

[@2centsam927]

Ruckman bible. 😂 had me in tears

[@mayberryastronomy6335]

The high places in the OT were traditions, and they were wrong. Just because something is tradition doesn’t make it right.

[@jeffdollar1646]

I wonder what these guys would do with the term "regulative principle"?

[@zerotolerance9128]

Heard something very similar from orthodoxals 🥴

[@WayoftheRaven]

As what one would consider an IFB preacher, I find it interesting that the Bible uses the word 'tradition' 13x - and in all but two (2Th. 3:15;3:6) they are used in a negative context. If you're going to build doctrine over one word, I wouldn't use that one, for the Bible speaks of tradition being a stumbling block more so than a help.

[@user-wi4kj4lp3g]

It's also IFB tradition for preachers to stuff their faces with food and no self discipline. Look at that fools belly hanging out... that's also tradition among those preachers. Talk about that Tony...come on tell us all your traditions.

[@ritadyer9295]

The Bible says to not teach tradition as doctrine.

[@northerngardening2585]

Ah the good old proof text to justify your traditions.

[@OrthodoxChristianBeliever]

We Have Tradition Too. I Like Tony Hutson, but he's not exclusive to Tradition.

[@JunktionJack]

So which tradition across the globe do you follow? IFB is exclusively a late 1800’s rural American construct with no prior tradition. They were generally considered non-traditional until they grew in numbers and now they supposedly define what “old time religion” means for the rest of time until Christ returns. Stuff of nonsense.

[@PrenticeBoy1688]

Hayman!

[@captainmo3064]

"All Job had was tradition" Absolutely positively false. Did he miss the part of the Bible where GOD spoke directly to Job? This kind of preaching is self serving. Job had a DIRECT relationship with God. Like Abraham. He had faith. "Traditions are pointless...Jesus spoke of this in the New Testament as well.

[@ritadyer9295]

These preachers are so mean. And if I wasn’t already a Christian, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t want to be listening to this hateful preaching

[@user-in3mg1sg1w]

Nothing wrong with a little tradition.

[@IFBPreachers]

Yes, every place has traditions. And if that's what he was preaching, this video wouldn't exist. What he's saying is it's wrong not to keep the traditions that they were taught. Do you believe it's wrong to walk away from your traditions?

[@user-in3mg1sg1w]

@@IFBPreachers I think it depends. I've done it. As I grew older I saw the value in many of the traditions I walked away from.. If the traditions you walked away from were dangerous or in any way harmful, then no. If the traditions were harmless, it could be worth holding on to them. Just in case you one day see the value. Currently our world wants to eleminate ALL of our traditions, mostly through cultural marxism. That is the work of the devil. None of this is related to salvation, but the importance of tradition might be biblical. Which I think is what our blowhard brother us carrying on about.

[@IFBPreachers]

@@user-in3mg1sg1w Yeah, that's true. I've heard more and more preachers recently talk about the value of tradition, and I don't deny that. I think some traditions are important, and I also think it's equally important to remember that they are traditions and not at the same level of Scripture. But more and more I'm hearing preachers like this say that those who choose not to follow on in the traditions they were taught are, as he said, "disorderly and evil." That sounds too much like the Pharisees in the New Testament for my liking.

[@EvangelicalCringe]

i think tony has converted to islam too

[@PatrickBaptist-vv2bg]

That american flag in there tells you that it's just a den of idol worshipers, a cloth named "old glory" that the us flag code declares to be a "LIVING THING" that people swear to and mock what Jesus said in Matthew 5 about not swearing at all and then in James 5 ABOVE ALL SWEAR NOT, but the people refuse to hear and bring their images and idols into the house of their god dagon and use the name of the Lord in vain for it.