Too hot to handle? B&W 607 S2 Anniversary Edition Review!

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Your results may vary based on your ears, room, and associated equipment:

[@doifeellucky]

Great insight as always. That close out message 👍

[@joshdekubber3631]

Great review and Fair assessment! I like the fact that you gave them credit where credit is due and I think anyone who's in the market for them will have a really good idea of what to expect now.

[@NemoPropaganda]

thank you bro, always appreciate your feedback!

[@deankim6687]

Love the no BS assessment of your reviews.

[@6643bear]

Thanks for the link , great review, as you know these been updated with s3 now. Regards mark

[@williameuler8056]

I have the 606 S2 AE’s. I love em. They are bright and to help that, yes change out the jumpers. I used the same speaker wire that connects to the speaker as jumpers: helps a lot. The other was, I use a Marantz AVR and run Audyssey, I found changing the Reference Offset Level from 0 to 10 made a huge improvement. Great review bro.

[@FyyMyy]

I have the same setup combined with the kf92. I have used the same settings for some time and really liked it. Currently i am running Audyssey Flat - 0db offset.

[@charlesking678]

Hey brother, I gotta say from watching your earlier videos your reviews have improved. Keep up the hard work bro!

[@NemoPropaganda]

thank you bro!

[@EA-58]

Great review...my almost 60 years old ears....love these speakers 😊

[@NemoPropaganda]

god bless!

[@ChicagoRob2]

I own a pristine pair of vintage 1997 B&W Matrix 805s, which have a dead-neutral high end. The factory supplied response graphs show a deviation of +/- 1.5 db 55 Hz to 18 KHz. The 805s are some of the most “ honest” speakers I’ve listened to. Nothing is added, nothing is subtracted. It’s interesting that most high end B&W speakers from the late 70s through the 90s were designed this way. It seems that B&W has changed its direction by incorporating the “show-room” sound in its speakers(excluding their expensive 800 series).

[@NemoPropaganda]

showroom sound really is a great way to describe it.

[@sudd3660]

bi wire could be nice for those with extensive dsp, for example add some delay to the tweeter usually the tweeter is in front of the woofer acoustically. i only have 2 channels in my dsp and use it between subwoofer and mains speakers. so i use two dac's and power amps to do this.

[@dexterts1]

Hey Nemo,great review as always! If you are interested in this speaker size,check the Dali Menuet SE if you can,i think you are going to enjoy them. P.S,regarding the haters,leave them be and lose the swearing. I think you are a grear reviewer and you dont need to go down to that level,your chanel has more class then that😊 Keep up with the great work

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hi Dex, I appreciate the kind words but I film these videos in a single take so what you're seeing is more of my real personality. I think it's important that people remember this is all supposed to be fun, I just say it in a way that is fairly aggressive, but that's also the kind of person I am :)

[@toddt5562]

Thanks Nemo! Enjoy your reviews. Sounds like the treble drills many tiny holes in your ears in a matter of minutes in a "very refined" way 😂. Not for me, even though I'm in my upper 50s, I still can hear treble well enough to not like many Klipsch speakers, so I'm sure this one would be a nightmare for me LOL.

[@NemoPropaganda]

yes exactly, almost like having a beatufiul girlfriend but she hits you constantly :(

[@kdomster9141]

I personally live more of air and treble energy as I get older.... As far as system matching , room acoustics and matching cables and electrinics are a key , do it correctly and you will absolutely love these B&Ws

[@saltaormina9404]

Love your channel!!! Had the 606s2…went to Aria 906…and now KEF R3. Rega Aethos and REL T5x sub playing off a Rega P6. Aria MK3 phono stage being used. I think Valve or Tube amps will better match with the Bowers 6 series …for me anything off Analogue Productions on vinyl sounded spectacular on the Bowers …but the KEF for me is better balanced and not too spicy.

[@6643bear]

Hi great choice with kef meta r3, that’s the speaker I would love to have . I have 606s2 anniversary but prefer my old dm602s3 tho . Regards mark

[@christopherstorrier5560]

I use the B&W Anniversaey HTM6 Mkll centre speaker... for AV the treble is great, very clear,great with vocals & high end...the HTM6 Mkll has 2 x 5" continnum bass mid units but is a true 2 way D'Apollito design, great mid & bass.....sounds like they go down to about 40-45hz... easy to drive, very good bass/mid units...the best centre channel speaker i have ever used.....nice in white to with grey magnetic grille....

[@juststeven35]

I have owned these speakers for over a year. I paired them with the Rega IO and it is bliss. The level of detail is amazing and I do not hear or mind the overly bright treble. Maybe my hearing is going? I'll admit I was skeptical in the store when I heard them, but at home they are fantastic.

[@NemoPropaganda]

thats awesome man, personal taste is a big factor. I'm happy you love them :)

[@seoulrydr]

this should be your signature outro. work on it a bit and you'll have something memorable. nice vid!

[@Eugene737]

hey Nemo, did you go to a countertop store to get a slab of quartz or something under speaker stands? Been thinking about something like this to "spruce" things up.

[@NemoPropaganda]

I found a guy online who made them for me but in hindsight a countertop store would have saved me the shipping cost :)

[@vicentemonsalve5884]

Really nice videos that go to the point without this boring and confusing audiophile prosa, keep up the good work!

[@Fangtubeular]

Hey Nemo , I use a pair of Mission 751 freecom speakers, REL Q50 in a bi-wired and bi-amp configuration NAD C320BEE and C352. Using a Raspberry Pi 4 and AKM gpio connected dac , Volumio / Qobuz as the main source The 751's were good with single wires, but now sound more clear , airy. At least to my hairy ears :)

[@NemoPropaganda]

thank you for sharing, I may try it some day.

[@robk5745]

Is that a denafrips pre amp back there? I’ve heard a couple reviewers so that goes really well with the kinki power section, some say better than the kinki pre? Interested to hear your thoughts

[@NemoPropaganda]

Yeah it's the Hestia, it's great but not on the level of the twice the price Kinki EXP7, the difference is not small either. Kinki EXP7 has much more fine grain volume control, quieter resistor volume sound, and much better low volume dynamics & low volume performance.

[@robk5745]

@@NemoPropaganda sounds like the perfect pre amp to me, likely not adding any character of its own. I think the reviewer was talking the hades, maybe adding more warmth that he liked? Who knows.

[@drakebrady711]

Do you think I could get solid sound using an AVR with these? I have the Denon AVR-970H which is rated at 90 watts with 2 channels driven. Saw they were quite low on sensitivity. Thank you!

[@NemoPropaganda]

I'm not sure.

[@xaerothehero]

Thing is with the 600-series, which I have measured all of them: The treble isn't really all that elevated and "hot" like people say, it's withing the +/- 3dB as specified. I think it's just because it is so clear and resonance free, people mistake it for "hot".

[@NemoPropaganda]

I've seen it measured at +4dB which is not a small difference. Even if it was just +2dB, that is very noticeable to my ears.

[@RennieAsh]

It's likely the off axis response plus you could get a 6db swing if it's ± 3db . Or, given the first order crossovers, you could be hearing lots of treble from the woofer if you sit directly in front.

[@anthonydickinson9293]

I bi-amped Martin Logan Motion 40’s on a Marantz SR7009 years ago. Couldn’t tell a difference

[@slidetek]

*This.* Back in 1980 after hearing a friend's new KEF 104.5's, I sold my JBL Centuries for a pair of B&W DM14's after weeks of listening comparisons. Really my first foray into high end, and continued to be a fan for many years. It's kind of funny that B&W and Focal have slowly traded places in recent years! TBH I'm just not sold on B&W's these days, but certainly get it. But the formerly warm and polite British sound is now analytical, and IMHO too dry for my musical tastes. I personally think KEF's succeeded in finding that goldilocks zone as both brands were nearly interchangeable for quite some time. But if you hear _something_ you like in the B&W's, maybe try some warmer electronics. Back in the 90's when I bought my Thiels (which I still own), they were considered ear searing by some. IMHO due to the electronics they were paired with. Correctly matched, they have a stunning midrange clarity and holographic soundstage. I went through a _lot_ of components until I found that sweet spot (the McIntosh/Spectrals I demoed and fell in love with them with were unaffordable for me then, as now!). All part of the fun, isn't it?

[@chriswoods1355]

Had the 606s2 really good bass and midrange.The top end was hot which I could withstand but it was the listening fatigue that I couldn’t handle so they had to go.

[@6643bear]

Hi I do agree am thinking changing mine to Elac Uniref ubr62 , I still have my old b&w dm602s3 and like those more than the 606. Regards mark

[@chriswoods1355]

@@6643bear I had the dm603 s2 for 10 years which were really good. I have the Amphion argon 1's. which are quality if you've got the funds

[@HiRezViews]

Nemo: Sound like these would be good for theater dialog clarity similar to your Monitor Audio Bronze 100 perspective ?

[@NemoPropaganda]

maybe, I didn't test them that way. They were too bright for me so I spent the minimum time needed for the review process :)

[@andreasmoller9798]

As a b&w owner twice actully b&w can be very hot in tweeter i have not had 600 anniversary at my home just 683 s2 and 702 s2, i am currently using 702 s2 and they can be aggressive at times, but with enough power and right set up they can still get more balanced sounding even at higher levels, but will still lean against bright sound, but at least in my opinion when campared 603 anniversary with 702 s2, you get a lot more details and clarity with 702, but 702 s2 cost a fair bit more, but for me its worth the price difference, one thing i think is downside with 702 s2 is that they can lack a bit on low end, and they are very revealing, to me my previous 600 series speakers was much more forgiving to the music you listen to, but its nowhere as good sounding, good review as always👍,

[@NemoPropaganda]

Thank you Andreas, I have not heard the 702 yet but I hope I will sometime.

[@andreasmoller9798]

@@NemoPropaganda little late answer today the b&w 700 series has been updated so the old one is proably going to replaced at most hifi shops

[@elmenomaronido6653]

i own the 606 s2 and love the sound , i like the detailed sound , bass and overall sound and never bi wire or bi amp my speaker .

[@NemoPropaganda]

hell yeah bro, I'm glad you dig them. Try replacing the metal jumper plates with some 14ga copper wire though, should clean things up a bit.

[@elmenomaronido6653]

@@NemoPropaganda thank’s for the advice 👍

[@snakedude61]

I don't really use biwire. I have it can be fun to play with active crossovers. As long as it don't change the price much I say keep putting them on way not. At the very least you have a extra set of posts if the thread starts wearing out or something. Idk

[@robertst.claire3277]

I have these in a medium-sized office application, and agree with this assessment. It is bright, but incredibly clear. But two things: I’d gladly take this as opposed to any Bose bass addicted 16 year olds, and a small KEF sub gave me a bit more lower freq. response.

[@charleyweinhardt]

Last weekend, I did a test on a pair of $12000 silver signature 30 b&w speakers (absolute cadillac speakers), between the most heavy duty $1000 bi-wire cables I've ever seen and a single cut apart piece of composite video cable from the 90's (basically an old piece of copper string) ...and the piece of string won, I kid you not. The string- much cleaner, sounded amazing, any loss in bass could have been corrected with one click of tone control or EQ The bi-wire- slightly bigger sound, perhaps more sound stage in a stereo setup, but muddy, lacked definition, which is whole point I thought. but with those speakers, the 607 s2's, I might actually like the difference, because those things are just too siblant, they're excessive detail speakers imo, the bi-wire could chill those out a bit, and I'm pretty sure they're tuned for it. But I think EQing in lows and reducing highs is a much better scenario than adding eq'd highs which exposes compression sounds.

[@filipviljamaasvensson]

Not sure I got the name of the speaker right. Was it the Bowers & Wilkins 607 SE Anniversary Edition? Lol. But on a serious note, I have owned the 685 S1 and that one had some very nice qualities for metal music, for instance, but the treble was ear piercing at moderate to higher listening levels. I could get literal pain in my ears from a session. I can only imagine it has been toned down through out the iterations, but very interesting to hear that it is still there to a degree.

[@NemoPropaganda]

ahahaha, yeah same here, I was only listening to half of songs lol

[@filipviljamaasvensson]

@@NemoPropaganda That's a smart move!

[@ArdaiThomasPoker]

yes, i use bi-wiring on my speakers, wharfedale 225. they sound much clearer with the bi-wire, i love it. i mean my reciever has multiple channels so, why not use them?

[@NemoPropaganda]

I apprecieate the feedback brother, maybe I'll try it one day.

[@scottgordon1721]

Woo like your review

[@NemoPropaganda]

thank you sir

[@deankim6687]

Would you say lowering treble through tone controls lower the clarity and quality?

[@NemoPropaganda]

its hard to say because not all tone controls are the same.

[@Birmingham_racing]

I like Andrew Robinson and many reviewers say it's too bright which puts me off. I've got the 707 s2 with my powernode it is slightly bright but love how it sounds

[@hifi-photo-Brian]

How does the treble compare to the Focal Chora and the Monitor Audio tweeters? Great video!

[@NemoPropaganda]

its way brighter than both.

[@hifi-photo-Brian]

@@NemoPropaganda Good to know! Thanks!

[@mattkalis1567]

I listen to my Bowers and Wilkins at about 30 to 40 degrees toed out and the tone is perfect for me.

[@NemoPropaganda]

toed out from straight into the room? Like almost facing the walls a bit?

[@mattkalis1567]

@@NemoPropaganda yup. The imaging is horrible, but I can never get good imaging in that room. I like it because it fills the room with great tone and dynamics

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@mattkalis1567 if you can treat the first reflection points that should make a night & date difference for your imaging.

[@IrenESorius]

Cheers,,👍‍‍😎🍻

[@rafaelalberto5051]

hi! but in the end comparing this to oberon 1, is oberon 1 apart from having too much sparkle as resolving as this B&W in the upper regions? thanks

[@NemoPropaganda]

I don't remember, I'm very sensitive to this type of treble and cannot listen very long.

[@rafaelalberto5051]

@@NemoPropaganda Ok I get it but you didnt mention Sibilance with these B&W so I Guess its better in some way and more expensive by the way

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@rafaelalberto5051 yeah BW didn’t have sibilance like the Oberon but Oberon had better bass quality. I think they are both equal overall.

[@rafaelalberto5051]

@@NemoPropaganda A ok I got it, thanks for your answers 💪💪

[@PixelGolf]

So I have some new speakers in my arsenal to replace my Polk S15s and S35 in my 7.1.2 setup… Polk R100/R300 center and Klipsch rp500m II/RP500c II center. I started thinking if I’m being a cheap ass and should just get the B&Ws in this review… I’ve always wanted B&W, not sure why… But I also want the best option in this size speaker for movie watching. Hopefully you can help me decide, I have FOMO going on😂

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hi bro, I'm not big into theater but my free discord has a theater section and you might be able to get some good help there. Alsoif youre in the US you can easily demo all of those at any major retailer like Best Buy which should be really helpful. Heres the discord link if you want to try there: discord.gg/nemopropaganda

[@WindomRettes]

Love the outro Bro!!

[@NemoPropaganda]

thank you for the support my man!

[@marks5966]

How do they compare to the Emotiva B2+ (just bought) should I buy, now that they are on sale? (I’ve always wanted B&W after owning the P7 headphones)

[@NemoPropaganda]

The B2+ is actually a brighter speaker compared to it's little brother B1+ though nowhere near as bright as the B&W here. I would rather own the Emotiva.

[@marks5966]

@@NemoPropaganda thanks!!

[@marks5966]

@@NemoPropaganda any other speaker recommendations that could be better for a ~$600 price range?

[@speech70fb]

How you compare this with Triangle Borea br02? B&W is far better? For double price?

[@NemoPropaganda]

totally different sound, by direct comparison the BR02 is much darker & warmer overall. Technically the B&W is more refined but it's a much brighter sound overall so the sound quality is not a factor here. You want to choose the speaker that is best for your personal taste. Do you want the really bright & energetic speaker or the darker & warmer speaker.

[@speech70fb]

Thanx@@NemoPropaganda

[@AbsoluteFidelity]

Nemo, you forgot to compare it to the Chora which is just around 200 bucks higher. How does the treble compare in terms of detail retrieval, clarity, transparency and air?

[@NemoPropaganda]

Chora is the better speaker from top to bottom. Better top end, more balanced but still outstanding detail & clarity with amazing low volume performance. Midrange is more balanced, bass power is less but of higher quality.

[@AbsoluteFidelity]

@@NemoPropaganda thought so... I loved how you didnt shit on the 607s and kept it real civil. LOL! Like you said, the 607s are for 3 types of people : aged people, crazily over dampened room and peep that like their shit real spicy on the top end. The problem with the 607 is no treble control is going to tame that down as it peaks at 5500hz, goes down again the peaks again at 10500hz. A tone control usually centered at 10khz with a low q wont do jack for that type of response. Its a love or hate type of speaker. Lol!!!

[@NemoPropaganda]

​@@AbsoluteFidelity yeah that's what I was thinking also, I guess it could be a good fit for those guys that use DSP and are really good at using the parametric eq functions but at that point you're totally reshaping the sound so it almost begs the question of "why" when you could just buy a different speaker like the Chora.

[@AbsoluteFidelity]

@@NemoPropaganda a chora + sub is definitely hard to beat. The sub itself solves 2 things, the not so deep bass and it even adds meat to the 'lean' sounding mids. Cant ask for more especially for the price. Im an objective first subjective later kind of guy but your reviews are the best because comparisons makes the most sense. One would not know what bright is unless compared to other speakers. Everything is relative and I totally appreciate your format. Makes more sense than "this is a dull sounding speaker..." like wtf... lmfao!

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@AbsoluteFidelity oh yeah, Chora is awesome for sure. Glad you dig the reviews my man!

[@saudade369]

They look ok though , the phrase “ style over content “ springs to mind . I was really wanting a pair of B and W speakers for a long time having read so many great reviews and liked the ways they looked too , but was massively disappointed . The bass is thin and like i had the tone turned up full on an amp I used to have as a kid. I used them with both a Rega Mira amp , a Cyrus 3 and 8 amp, a Rega Apollo CD and a Project Perspex turntable and , finally an older Ariston Rd80ls with Ortophon VMS20 cartridge .,so my system is clear and detailed but the speakers made it sound more like my old teenage Sharp stack system . Bad

[@elpoo]

compared to the garage sale speakers i used to run these are unreal - but yeah, sometimes when listening to jazz the treble is maybe a bit much. But as the review says - they're so good otherwise, I don't really mind (as i have little to compare them to)

[@NemoPropaganda]

you have the best user name in youtube history lol

[@miloa.2684]

Are these good for Electronic music, hip/hop, pop and film scores?

[@NemoPropaganda]

as long as you like the sound of the speaker yes.

[@marcusdavey3113]

Mine are bi-wired. They sound awesome

[@roblawrence4792]

Agreed. I bought the 606 model to try, but couldn’t get past the high end… too aggressive for me and I sold them. But… I did like and respect the mid driver and the midrange and punchy bass. Especially for the $$. Thx.

[@Timoeltejano]

I just purchased A pair of these and awaiting their arrival. But i only paid $250 for the pair. I think at that price point i won't have buyers remorse. Not sure which amp/receiver to pair them with. I have an older Denon AVR2400 (not the h model) which leans toward warm in 2 channel mode.

[@NemoPropaganda]

that's a great price, you can always use tone controls if it's too forward for your liking, enjoy!!!

[@danielhenderson8316]

B&W spent every single pound on the drivers for this model. The downside is they spent ALL their budget on the drivers and went kind of cheap everywhere else. I found a used pair of the 706 S2 that I'm running as computer speakers and the Carbon Domes are much more resolving AND much easier to live with. However, the 705 S2 with the tweeter pod on top run you back into super hot. I'm interested in how the new S3 700 series sound now, but the 600 Series needs some better balance and better build quality for the price point they're in.

[@alialamri8525]

I had this speaker I really liked the detailed however I hate the spicy of the mids

[@kyleo2113]

I bi-wired my kef R300s and they seemed to be just a bit more articulate - maybe due to the increased power available? - not sure but I moved to focals and don’t miss bi-wiring

[@NemoPropaganda]

thank you for sharing bro, which Focal did you get?

[@kyleo2113]

@@NemoPropaganda Aria 936s with a pair of E15s - looking to get some Kanta 2s or Sopra 1s I n the future

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@kyleo2113 oh man that is a badass system my guy!!!!! if you're in the discord can you post pics of that in the gear-showoff section?

[@jharismaiden]

This review aka “take a shot every time Nemo says “‘Bowers & Wilkins 607 S2 Anniversary Edition’” 😂

[@NemoPropaganda]

you'd get alcohol poisoning half way through lol

[@Music-4all]

Debating if I should get these or Klipsch RP 600 M

[@NemoPropaganda]

i have not heard the 600m, maybe try asking in my discord.

[@redstarwraith]

I'd like to hear these speakers out of curiosity. I'm 59 years old and spent most of my 20s and into my 30s in rock bands. That is to say, I didn't always take care of my hearing. I know I've got some high end hearing loss going on (no. I'm not deaf). Perhaps the B&W 607 S2 (or something like it) would sound really good to me? Maybe they were marketed for Boomers such as myself? 🤔

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hey Redstar! Maybe swing by the local best buy and see if you can listen to them?

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

It’s always been my suspicion that brightly voiced loudspeakers really are designed for shall we say _seasoned_ listeners

[@ACM1000000PT]

more quantity of treble always mean more detail, more air.. etc :) but no more refinement.

[@NemoPropaganda]

not always really bro, often times more treble quantity is just that without any improvement in detail or clarity especially in the under $500 category.

[@laika25]

How do they compare with the 606?

[@NemoPropaganda]

I never heard the 606.

[@pmpgonzalez]

I have these paired with the Leak Stereo 130 and using bi-wire on the speakers end. Bass becomes more present and extended. Beautifully controlled. And the treble keeps its detail and clarity. Let me tell you that these speakers really rock. True that my music room is small, so these speakers are perfect for me.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hey Pedro, thank you for sharing your experience with biwire.

[@sudd3660]

nice driver size for me, im limited to width and depth, and subwoofer is alway required. so why was it not sealed box, it could be half the size, and better sound quality. i have full dsp available to me so all speakers in my room is going to have the same loudness across the frequencies, unless have to tame some annoying resonances or other stuff. so this 607 tweeter should sound heavenly for me.

[@NemoPropaganda]

sounds like you may enjoy the Arendal 1961 bookshelf. It's sealed and a bit smaller but with very good sound.

[@sudd3660]

@@NemoPropaganda i actually have the arendal 1961 monitors, those are like the bookshelf but with an extra woofer.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@sudd3660 oh bro then for sure get the bookshelf to match, it's such a good speaker!

[@saudade369]

I bought a pair and find them very hard to listen to, there’s something grating about them , a hardness that makes my music lose so much .ive had them a year and now put them away and bought some Quad22ls . I had the smaller 11ls and they also were so open and detailed Whereas the B and Ws are cold, hard and somehow losing something that I cannot determine , they were almost like getting my teeth drilled in comparison .

[@Dave-if5qj]

Biwiring can open up the sound I Some brands of speakers seem to respond better to biwiring then others

[@Novilicious]

Bro, u are such a balanced reviewer; great review as always! Not going to lie, this speaker on lesser electronics sucks, but on better ones can shine ✨ (as do many other speakers in their price category). I can’t stand b&ws until their 800 series…but that’s because I hate bright speakers. Overall, these are great for the price.

[@NemoPropaganda]

thank you for the kind words bro!

[@mikes121]

For some reason I can’t get onto Discord. That said, how do these compare to Focal Chora 806?

[@NemoPropaganda]

really? Chora is the better speaker from top to bottom. Better top end, more balanced but still outstanding detail & clarity with amazing low volume performance. Midrange is more balanced, bass power is less but of higher quality.

[@namelessmusik4345]

1:55 isn't any tweeter ?

[@NemoPropaganda]

most tweeters I've seen don't have such a large sealed off chamber like this one.

[@howardmims8376]

I used by wiring to take the jumpers out of the signal chain, you will find your speakers will sound better that way

[@NemoPropaganda]

strongly agree, I just use copper wire for that though.

[@6643bear]

My old b&w dm602s3 as thick plates compared to ones on my 606s2 anniversary and yes I changed to thick copper wire links now . Regards mark

[@laika25]

Never ever will I ever bi-wire

[@stephenyoud6125]

B&W is code for "send them to Danny Richie at GR-Research for revised crossovers" as with almost all the other B&W and Klipsch speakers he's fixed

[@NemoPropaganda]

A kit that costs 50% of the speakers price to “fix it”. Doesn’t really add up if you ask me but everyone is welcome to spend their money on whatever makes them happy.

[@stephenyoud6125]

@@NemoPropaganda sadly as you see throughout all the GR upgrades, spending more money on a speaker doesnt get you any better parts in the crossover and many still have responce issues. That's why they get sent to Danny in the first place. But if they have good bones in the cabinet and drivers, once he's done you will have a speaker thats more than worth the combined price of speaker + upgrade.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@stephenyoud6125 respectfully I disagree. I think danny is manipulative and out for himself. He hides it all behind a smile and a soft voice so everyone falls for it. To me he will always be the man who slandered other youtubers yet didn't have the stones to refer to them by name, that's cowardly behavior and I do not wish to discuss danny nor his products any further, I have nothing nice to say.

[@stephenyoud6125]

@@NemoPropaganda sorry to hear that. I have learned a lot from his videos and used that knowledge to measure and upgrade my own speakers for better performance and have a lot of fun in the process and having watched all the upgrades there is a distinct trend around the B&W and Klipsch speakers, at least with the we models that are sent to him that they just don’t have accurate frequency responces and contain low quality parts and use push on connectors to the drivers. Even my Linn Kabers from the 1990’s used air cored inductors and Poly caps and soldered connections to the drivers

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@stephenyoud6125 enoy the journey your way my man, nothing wrong wtih that.

[@Pentenfi]

Bright speakers are a no go for me. Hi hats, symbols, voices but even sounds coming from an applauding audience don't sound real. It sounds impressive at first, then annoying but definitely not "real". But it's subjective, it might be right for some as you mentioned:) But then again I'd rather have a neutral speaker with no treble peaks at all and bring the treble up via tone controls or eq/dsp.

[@NemoPropaganda]

well said, the 607 S2 certainly did have an artificial sound to it.

[@davewin1792]

It's always easier to live with wanting a little more, but not with wanting less. Buyer beware.

[@NemoPropaganda]

well said.

[@victorlujan5583]

I biwire my Wharfedale Jade 5’s with LessLoss wire. I won’t buy a pair of speakers that don’t have dual binding posts.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hi Victor, thank you for sharing that, but my question is why? Did not notice any improvement you can share with us?

[@victorlujan5583]

@@NemoPropaganda Clarity! All across the board but especially in the bass. I use Lessloss small hookup wire with Furutech spades that I soldered on them. I can control the spacing between the conductors and how high off the floor the conductors are to suit my taste in sound in a high resolution system.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@victorlujan5583 interesting, I might try it some day :)

[@bricktop2090]

This guy is the best reviewer on youtube Period!, if its a Piece of $hit" he will call it that🤣🤣

[@NemoPropaganda]

yes sir! thought I wouldn't say these are shit by any means. Just be prepaired for that spicy top end or look elsewhere for sure.

[@martinmbokazi8372]

There is nothing wrong with Robinson's criticism of the 607 S2. He was using his own ears, his own equipment and in his own room. Just like another person using his/her own ears, using his/her equipment in his/her room might love them. Just like some people love Coca-Cola but some people prefer Pepsi

[@NemoPropaganda]

I don't believe I said there was anything wrong with his critique, I even went on to say I agreed with it.

[@martinmbokazi8372]

@@NemoPropaganda Yes you never said and nobody said @NemoPropaganda criticised Robinson but i was just adding my comment

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@martinmbokazi8372 okay cool, sometimes people comment without watching the whole video so I thought maybe you missed the part that I said I agreed.

[@martinmbokazi8372]

@@NemoPropaganda. Totally agree with you but just chill bro, you did not do anything wrong, i love your channel and i have subscribed

[@seano218]

Bro, your video would've been 3 minutes shorter if you wouldn't have used the B&W 607s full name! Lol. My reasoning for biwiring is when I asked Brian at Cardas cables why people use biwiring on speakers and he told me because the jumpers are made from inferior metals like brass and steal and therefore limit your sound performance as a result of being not the best for conductivity. Makes sense to me as I never really thought about it like that. At the very least, get rid of those clips and use some copper jumpers. Does that make sense to you too? Did I offend you? If I did, it's your problem, not mine. Lol, kidding around with you. Another great video, thank you for your time!

[@NemoPropaganda]

I totally agree about replacing the plate jumpers with copper wire.

[@seano218]

@@NemoPropaganda yeah, after he enlightened me to that, instead of spending $800 plus on speaker cables for biwiring, I just decided to make some jumpers out of my existing cable. Was it a HUGE difference, no... but noticeable with a touch more clarity, air and separation.

[@psyphonyxaudio]

Nope.. No bi wire.

[@Carl-bd1rf]

I’ve owned B&W’s, just too much high end for me.

[@sphenoidjjj]

Do you mean high end frequency or high end price?

[@Carl-bd1rf]

@@sphenoidjjj Too much high frequency energy.

[@scottlowell493]

B&W tweeters have not impressed me in over a decade. The tweeters are hard, harsh and sound like they are totally independent of the rest of the speaker. This includes the diamond series. Not a fan. Focal Aria, Burchardt S400MKII, Elac RS and Kef r3 are all better than. $3000+. B&W 705s2, but for $1000 less.

[@bobb.9917]

Definitely not for me. I had a pair Monitor Audio Silvers that made "my" ears bleed…like I am sure these would. I think it’s a British thing. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@NemoPropaganda]

I've heard the silvers are spicy so I've stayed away.

[@russellperry3605]

I’ve bi- wired. It made no difference but it looked cool.

[@sidvicious3129]

You guys are all saying the same thing, they are too bright for most, but fine for some.

[@fredsanke8710]

Different ears different hearing...

[@sudd3660]

true, but also everything emit the same sound.

[@AbsoluteFidelity]

Yup... some ears like a +10db rise relative to 800hz. Its not wrong to like such a response but its hardly accurately to people that like balance. I can see how some might like such a response though.

[@sudd3660]

@@AbsoluteFidelity that also depends on how you measure that 10db rise, or is it by ear at listening position? there can be more than 10db difference from what a measurement mic pick up on and the ears hears, and if the thing is measured in a room or not.

[@AbsoluteFidelity]

@@sudd3660 thru direct klippel based measurents. 10db is more than anything can make up for.

[@sudd3660]

@@AbsoluteFidelity it does not work like that, a 10 db drop in bass is easily remedies by room gain in some rooms. and 20 db is also possible with good dsp. i can go on an on.