How Sam Presti Broke The NBA Trade Market

[@lucaslonchampt613]

Also, about Russ' triple doubles, I'd like to point out something. He averages a Triple-double for a few seasons. But that means, there's a lot of games where he came close to getting one, but didn't. And in those games, do you really think one more rebound or one more assist would have contributed to a win more often than not?

[@darrengordon-hill]

NO!!!!

[@thetruth4654]

Westbrick ain`t a winning player. His a role player, that is great at statpadding

[@sickosylum360]

Watch what happens next

[@lucaslonchampt613]

@@sickosylum360 What?

[@sickosylum360]

@@lucaslonchampt613 I said watch, so just sit back and don’t forget your popcorn

[@bamadebayoenjoyer5895]

Who would've thought that the Thunder and Timberwolves would have this kind of impact on the league... These 2 teams have completely made impossible to trade guys like Mitchell and KD. Insanity.

[@deepaknambisan3251]

Easily some of the best NBA content out there and streets ahead of the vast majority of other channels. Fantastic work 🙏🏾

[@tooforwon241]

Thank you so much for the kind words. ☺ so sweet!

[@carolbowers8174]

Criminally underrated. Having to listen to Jmy Highroller and then this, what a difference. You sound younger and somehow wiser.

[@tooforwon241]

Lol thank you!

[@talesfromthetrip]

KZbin notified me about this without me having the bell on, that’s a good sign! I’ll be saving this one for later tonight before bed. I also will turn on the notification bell.

[@tooforwon241]

I don't like notifications myself, but I know some people do. They are so distracting so I honestly don't care if you turn the bell on or not

[@talesfromthetrip]

@@tooforwon241 Trust me, you'll like the bell soon enough lol

[@1onlypatch]

Absolutely love these in-depth videos you make for your audience. Keep doing what you are doing and you’ll easily be one of the biggest Basketball youtubers on the platform. Much love, Raptor Nation🙏

[@LouBang718]

Man your turning out to being one of my favorite basketball channels bro. Keep it up i think you can become very big in this platform 👍

[@tooforwon241]

Wow that means a lot! I'm honestly nervous because this video strays away slightly from what worked on my channel & this comment gives me hope this video will perform well

[@BonsuTheTiger]

Another well analyzed video bro

[@tooforwon241]

Appreciate it 🙏

[@DeBruyne42]

Your channel is quickly turning into one of those channels for me where you hit like on the video before you even watch it. Alot of your takes are spot on. Also NGL Im real glad you pointed out that the graph jxmyhighroller used for his Westbrook video showed the complete opposite of what he was using it for.. the dude always uses misleading graphs and charts to illustrate his bad takes lol

[@tooforwon241]

Man you've been supporting me for a while, so seeing this high praise coming from you it means a lot. Thank you for the continuous support

[@Fraudkuna]

Yeah, and alot of people fall for it lol

[@haydenstadler]

Keep em coming my man! Havent even watched it yet but i know its gonna be a banger!

[@tooforwon241]

Thank you! But I'm pretty nervous on this one. I tried getting out of my comfort zone and experimented here. I hope it performs well

[@grantmcgee6163]

Thank you for blessing us with another video 🐐

[@heidrun13]

I found this vid randomly on my recommended, It's the first one I watch from your channel, It is entertaining and well done. I'll sub and go watch more of your content.

[@tooforwon241]

Nice! Thank you so much! If you do check out more of my content, you will notice that this differs a bit from my last 10 videos. So just a heads up there.

[@ewanferguson7765]

Bruh love to see you getting more views, shout out from another Canadian 💪

[@operationcarnage]

Great vid. Very underrated KZbinr.

[@rinqzywarren7320]

It really is insane, I watched the video twice bc I was def thinking the same thing, Sam Presti and Danny Ainge both kind of have the same mentality when it came to building in house super teams (by drafting well or utilizing their own picks like the old Spurs) but looking at the other side of that coin these teams that spent money on blockbuster trades to only fall flat on their faces is crazy

[@tuckerderrick2380]

A lot of these dudes just be over paid players that cannot win championship. Good numbers in the regular season but no rings. Then get mad when fans and media call them out now they hurt

[@constanttco7509]

As a pg fan 2019 season damn near brung tears to my eyes after the injury.

[@khoahthong4434]

thanks for featuring the young spurs. i hope they will become good players enough one day so that this meme will blow way up one day.

[@jaylunwilliams1544]

The craziest thing is if you follow the Paul George trade tree it all stems from serge ibaka becoming olidipo and sabonis

[@youngdoka7641]

this is such a good vid. keep up the good work

[@hahawowawesome]

TFW you are truly the master of receipts. You’re my fave NBA channel.

[@kysngaming7787]

I don't say this ever but best basketball youtuber on the platform.

[@tooforwon241]

Wow that makes me truly happy. I love the community I've built up to this point

[@MrTonyJ]

What nobody notices is Detroit has not stockpiled picks ahead of time, but they are getting them anyways,

[@tooforwon241]

I'm really loving what Weaver has been doing. As sad as I get whenever they beat the Raptors, I'm excited to see what this young core can do

[@TotalCruiserBabe]

If Presti's plan works out, it'll make Sam Hinkie's process look like a MyNBA simulation

[@imbelek6956]

Honestly best basketball channel on KZbin minus being a raptors fan

[@tooforwon241]

Are you a Sixers fan or a Celtics fan?

[@imbelek6956]

@@tooforwon241 WARRIORS

[@tooforwon241]

@@imbelek6956 Lol to know that we got one on you guys makes me happy. But you guys are still at the top

[@manz7860]

Imo. Hoarding picks is akin to kicking the can down the road. Most picks turn out to underperform or leave in free agency. Giannis, Embiid and Luka are the exceptions...not the rule. Also creates toxic expectations for these kids ala Andrew Wiggins and Lonzo Ball.

[@tooforwon241]

I can understand from a small market perspective, they have no choice but to build through the draft. But Presti & others take it to an extreme & honestly I wanna see Shai or Dort be a Raptor already

[@warlockmagic3416]

Being a really good GM comes with a real love of basketball and a lot of common sense. Exactly why I think I'd be great as a scout, or within management. 😁 I'd love to put a team together.

[@colindooling3954]

No one thought the Clippers won the trade with the Thunder

[@TimeKeeperBris]

If this is the video you were a bit cautious about posting, I think it’s a hit. I think it’s good that we talk about this because at the end of the day it does effect the league greatly

[@tooforwon241]

I appreciate it. If you saw my tweet earlier today, yes. This is the video in question. I'm glad you liked it & I'm happy with the results so far

[@stevenoconnor3037]

I like fast forward Skip 🤣

[@tooforwon241]

He's much easier to listen to honestly. I always get a kick out of this

[@ThreeBZ]

Its like this video was made for me lol..I am a lifelong Knicks fan who's hanging by a thread...and my favorite player has become sga always praising Sam preste for years now ..on the verge of just moving to OKC

[@jandrashriker5861]

Many people don't know but Presti was the guy who scouted Tony Parker and recommended Buford to pick him up.

[@roboninja3194]

Bro you should definitely do a video about Klutch Sports. How Rich Paul and Lebron have done some really questionable things and how Klutch has a lot of control over the NBA and which players end up on which teams. The information is out there. You just have to do a little digging.

[@floijd]

Who in their right mind would trade for KD? If you need to give up half your roster plus 15 picks, you win what exactly?

[@larrylindgren9484]

You get him you have no team. You have a 34-year-old who'll cry he wants out the second you get him. KD wins you nothing in a trade. He's untradeable unless you give him away.

[@pu1pe143]

Giddey gang on top!

[@Bobbleheads56]

The thunder are gonna be sweet in the coming years. Giddey, chet and basically unlimited attempts in the coming drafts

[@kangdelos]

We are all sam presti in 2k

[@lucaslonchampt613]

This is unrelated to the video, but since you're a Toronto fan I have to ask, who is in your opinion the greatest Raptor ever?

[@tooforwon241]

I've always had different answers to this. But if it were best player to ever wear a Raptors uniform, it's Kawhi. But that isn't the same as being the greatest Raptors ever. I would say that fits Kyle Lowry best. But players like DeRozan, Bosh, Carter & TMac have been better players. Lowry was there through the ups & downs and he would be the second jersey I retire behind Vince

[@lucaslonchampt613]

@@tooforwon241 Thanks for the answer. I was curious because from the outside, it didn't look obvious

[@darrengordon-hill]

Andrea Bargnani. How is this a question?!!

[@tooforwon241]

@@darrengordon-hill Lol you are a masochist. I will say. Trading Bargnani got us Poeltl who we used to get Kawhi. So he has a good case

[@darrengordon-hill]

@@tooforwon241 Never failed me in 2K (since 2K8). Probably DeRozan for "drafted Raptors" But in many ways a faceless franchise

[@Drakshl]

Not every team is going to be competitive in a sports league, we get used to this in Europe because most of our sports leagues have promotion and relegation. Sam Presti's job is not to win, its to keep his team relevant every year. By drafting good players and then trading them off for picks constantly he can make sure his team is in the playoffs more often than not, and for a team like OKC that is enough.

[@tooforwon241]

Presti is doing all this so that he can eventually win tho. And who's to say he will ever win if he failed to do so in the past. Does it not sound bad to know that OKC couldn't win 1 title while having 3 future MVPs on their team?

[@spookmaster106]

Comment for algo lets push this channel to 100k soon ❤️

[@tooforwon241]

You are a legend!

[@blue_diamond_gem]

Nice video

[@rolandmiller5456]

The reason those trays worked out the way they did was Sam was very smart and you had a couple of really greedy owners.

[@michaelmcphee2006]

It's also not just how much triple doubles affect Russ' teams winning percentages. It's how much does he cause his teams to lose chasing them when he doesn't get there.

[@shin0012]

yeah. dont really like all that jhighroller thing cus he basically ignores those decrease in wins every year for westbrick and triple double or no he gets bounced on first round and gets traded to another team lol. you know its bad if skip bayless gets it right

[@AngelLV2]

Russ was on bad teams he was carrying bad Okc teams to the playoffs even with PG let’s not act like PG wasn’t absolutely horrific in the Playoffs also as for the trades he was a good player still y’all just blatantly ignore that because it doesn’t fit your agenda

[@GoulaLegamer]

I think we’re d Mitch should go is the Miami heat fr with butler and bam it’s over

[@rienabelazotes7558]

(wembanyama or Anderson),Alexander,giddey,chet.okc

[@bradhicks5558]

OKC better make playoffs soon, or Presti's so-called "genius" will be all for naught. Even so, Presti knows that small market teams have to take big risks and develop draft picks. Ainge understands the same in Utah.

[@larrylindgren9484]

OKC has a cheap owner. They'll never win there. If he pays 6 million in tax, they could have kept Harden.

[@blakehoule6698]

#1 seed in the west boy

[@rakhunuhepptaylor2135]

You know what? If the Lakers really want to make a move trade Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook, Talent Horton Tucker and picks for Joe Harris and Seth Curry and maybe Kyrie Irving. That would solve their problems. Maybe even throw in Anthony Davis and get Kevin Durant and make it a three team deal and trade Anthony Davis to Boston Celtics for Jaylen Brown and either Marcus Smart or White who alongside Brown and Simmons were all drafted in the first round of the NBA Draft in 2017. All developed and in their prime. That Nets team of Russell Westbrook, Jaylen Brown, Derrick White (or Marcus Smart depending on the trade ), Talent Horton Tucker and Ben Simmons is top to bottom has a better chance of winning NBA Finals Championships than the team they currently have. Russell Westbrook as the primary ball handler with that much talent around him would be a strong contributing factor to the 2023 and 2024 NBA Finals championship 🏆🥇 run. Ben Simmons can also play point guard and other positions. Perhaps trade a second round pick or a first round pick and pick up the defensive specialist from the 76ers whom they're trying to offload and Markelle Fultz who is superfluous point guards on Orlando Magic right now is gettable. Lakers would be in a better place as a team than they are now and the Boston Celtics would be in a better place than they are now to win a NBA Finals Championship. It's a win win for everyone involved 😉😃👍 Real Talk 🦜💯💯💯

[@larrylindgren9484]

OKC has to keep the players. Trouble is the owner is cheap. He could have kept the players together but didn't want to pay 6 million in tax to keep Harden. You can draft great players. But if you don't keep them so what. That's OKC.

[@AD-oy8nm]

we got nothing for durant. don't blame presti for other teams desperation

[@joelkarito7572]

33 years old hell no

[@warlockmagic3416]

Here I thought OKC was crazy for the picks they gave up to the NYK.. Even though OKC's pick of players was complete trash.🗑 Those picks had sooo much protection on them. 😆 NYK are dumb as hell.. No way they get all that protection on those if I'm the GM.. Or it's not happening. Should have taken Eason, a Duren, Williams, Agbaji or something.. Guess they will eventually have 3 picks years from now though.. Might land them Donavan Mitchell I suppose.. OKC drafting Chet and Dieng is a complete joke to me. Neither of those guy's were in my radar. Not even top 25. Dieng not there at all imo. Dude was a late 2nd at best. They drafted one good guy in Jalen Williams. 👏

[@dxtremecaliber]

looking back at this the Lakers Russ’s slander is funny because yall are wrong he still great and he showed for the Clippers Russ made you and Skip wrong lol

[@rakhunuhepptaylor2135]

Nets should trade Kevin Durant and Ben Simmons to Golden State Warriors for Jonathan Kuminga, Moses Moody, Kevon Looney, Otto Porter Jr , Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman , Poole , and Baldwin . It's not worth it to trade those players for just Kevin Durant. That's a win win for both teams considering that the Nets have Seth Curry and Joe Harris as their own splash brothers and Steve Nash was an assistant coach for the Golden State Warriors for a year. They would be great running the same offensive and defensive strategies and plays that Golden State Warriors run. Real Talk 🦜🦜💯💯💯

[@tooforwon241]

Unfortunately, Otto is a Raptor now. Juan & GP2 are also gone. So Warriors would be so top heavy but at the expense of their depth

[@larrylindgren9484]

Trade for KD and give up 9 players. Now GS has no depth and win nothing. A Great trade for the Nets. A horrible trade for GS.

[@rakhunuhepptaylor2135]

@@tooforwon241 thanks 🙏 for responding. I hear you. They do have excellent nuanced leadership in the front office and on the side line including the development coaching on which a lot of this rests. Say for instance they keep Baldwin or that White kid from Texas Tech and Georgetown who broke Allen Iverson State highschool Career scoring record and pick up another underperforming athletic slasher or guard like Josh Jackson,, and Markelle Fultz for instance they are the best at player development in the NBA. They can make moves that other teams have to think hard about. For instance I am not in favor of the Knicks doing a similar trade for Donavon Mitchell. The value of Ben Simmons and Kevin Durant together is about that though to be fair. The question is can they afford to pay a fair price for them all recent events considered. It's not all about the talent being traded it is also about the support that is there to make that situation work. And by support I mean what I already mentioned but also the culture of the team. Most people acknowledge that the Golden State Warriors have the best culture in the NBA. That's part of why the Nets should be eager to trade with the Golden State Warriors because they got rid of what Kenny Atkinson was building there by way of culture there and Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving were looking for a laissez faire situation than usual, not even wanting the Golden State Warriors offense to be run even though was the one under which Steve Nash was GSW assistant coach under and he won 2 champiinships with it and went to another Finals which they lost to Kwai Leonard and Toronto in large part though not totally to major injury 🤕🩸.

[@roboninja3194]

Look at what Russ did when he went to the Clippers. You should really stop calling certain players a dumpster fire. Russ is a hall of famer. He never fit in with the Lakers and Lebron was an idiot for requesting the Lakers trade for him. Lots of players don't fit well with Lebron. Russ fit in pretty well on the Clips. The coaching was a big part of that too proving Ty Lue knows what he's doing and Darvin Ham doesn't.

[@D.Jackpot]

Russ what did you earn? Not a got damn thing! You're triple doubles are overrated. Shouldn't be in the top 75

[@richvedrus5187]

This isn't the warriors owner's aren't these owners watching joe n peter or are they blind dead really Namaste

[@g1lmk]

There are only 2 stars that brought success when coming with a huge price. AD, who delivered in the bubble, but has since killed the Lakers off with his unavailability and Jrue Holiday. As for now, only Holiday managed to make the team better consistently. (Holiday did cost 3 1sts and 2 swaps, so it was a big deal, some were saying it was an overpay at the time).

[@saifdahabreh4486]

GOD BLESS 🙏🙌✝️!!!!!

[@harposhi]

Hahaaaaa, OKC still sucks 😆

[@tooforwon241]

They do, but they can still get Wemby lol

[@Pyronek]

@@tooforwon241 Shai and chet are gonna be really good

[@harposhi]

@@tooforwon241 they get Wemby-bemby, I'm going to quit working at the retail store. I will then purchase a Victor Wembanyama jersey, and declare OKC my new favorite team. That ain't happening, since i think San Antonio, Orlando, or Indiana will acquire him. Listen, I love SGA, he's a nice young talent. Chet has got potential, but let your game do the talking big man. This team has a bright future. But, i don't know if you know this my good sir, THE WEST IS F***ING STACKED!!! 😆

[@richvedrus5187]

Presti shouldn't be let out of his restroom he should be confined there could anyone be any dummer that's why u just don't follow everyone who has made money that a d blind man could do please stop it Namaste

[@4realGTFOH]

Most overrated GM of all time. Yeah he has all these picks but he gets too much credit for drafting Durant. He also traded Harden for bench players and has NEVER won a title.

[@tooforwon241]

Tbf the owner wasn't willing to pay Harden what he deserved. There wasn't much Presti could've done there

[@4realGTFOH]

@@tooforwon241 im not saying he's a bad GM but it is still his job to build a winner. He hasn't done that. They chose Ibaka over Harden. Where was his "eye for talent" then? Real question. He deserves the cristism as much as the praise

[@onehand-yusuf7212]

@@4realGTFOH he just said that the Owner said no to keeping Harden not Sam Presti so that point is invalid

[@larrylindgren9484]

@@4realGTFOH He couldn't afford Harden. The Owner didn't want to play 6 million in Tax to sign Harden. THat's not a GM problem. That's an Owner problem. He built a team. The owner didn't want to pay for it.

[@4realGTFOH]

@@larrylindgren9484 he chose Sefalosha and Ibaka over Harden. It's absolutely his fault. Stop making excuse for this guy. If the owner doesn't want to pay a great GM knows how to work around that. Just watch Danny Ainge in Utah and watch how that man makes it work. He already went the fk off on that Gobert trade.