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Tool Talk #17: Mortise Master

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Jay Bates 2 - Vlog and Non Project Videos

Jay Bates 2 - Vlog and Non Project Videos

Күн бұрын

Learn more about the Mortise Master here: bit.ly/2OFCEzX
Because I produce online woodworking content I regularly get asked to promote tools and products. Most of the time I decline for various reasons and sometimes the item sparks interest. I was recently asked by Don Browning to take a look at his Mortise Master.
After getting one and looking it over I thought it was definitely worth sharing with all of you. It's a jig to batch out various sized mortises quickly. You can set the width and the offset from the edge quickly and easily. You can bring the material to the jig or bring the jig to the material. All you need is a plunge router and a spiral upcut bit.
I have nothing to gain or lose if you do or do not buy this product. I am not being paid to make this video or article.

Пікірлер: 113
@fluxcapacitr121
@fluxcapacitr121 2 жыл бұрын
Every single thread I read about a jig product has 10 people saying “just build it yourself for free out of scrap” First of all, it’s never free. You end up burning a whole weekend and half a tank of gas driving to buy hardware. For this jig, how are you gonna drill all the offset holes in the polycarbonate plate? Do you have that just “laying around?” Second of all, many of us don’t want to spend all our precious time building jigs. As a hobbyist woodworker in MN with an unheated garage, I only get a couple days a week, 8 months a year to practice my craft. I’m sick to death of building, rebuilding, and tweaking jigs. I want to design and build cool furniture. If you want to spend your time building jigs and shop equipment-knock yourself out-but please stop telling everyone we have to. This is a tool, just like a Festool domino or a table saw. Should I build those myself as well? Personally, I’m absolutely gonna buy this because it is brilliant.
@bobdriggers6111
@bobdriggers6111 4 жыл бұрын
I will probably purchase this, not because just looking at it, I could probably build my own but, because the guy that made it is very innovative and through our support, will come up with other useful jigs. Support your fellow genius! Bravo Mr. Mortise Master! Thanks Jay!
@mkbcoolman
@mkbcoolman 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have the same thoughts, but at $180 I'm kinda iffy. This is extremely well designed, but it's nothing more than 2 pieces of hardwood, some t-track, a few knobs and some acrylic. I could build this will off cuts I have laying around my shop today.
@bobdriggers6111
@bobdriggers6111 4 жыл бұрын
@@mkbcoolman Yes, you could.
@donbrowning689
@donbrowning689 4 жыл бұрын
bob driggers not trying to discourage you from making your own but the first few I made didn’t work that great. For something so simple you would be surprised how soso some parts of it have to be
@bobdriggers6111
@bobdriggers6111 4 жыл бұрын
@@donbrowning689 I'm confused. Have no intent to steal your design.
@donbrowning689
@donbrowning689 4 жыл бұрын
bob driggers sorry I mis spoke. I wasn’t trying to say that. Just trying to join the conversation an make a point about the different things I had to change to get it working well.
@Chuck_Benz
@Chuck_Benz 4 жыл бұрын
Just went to his site and you sold him out, truly a generous plug on your part jay.
@TomSilver_42
@TomSilver_42 3 жыл бұрын
And they are still sold out :-) However it seems they had a bit improved version, now, with engraved sliding plate and also a bit tapered cross plates.
@oldguy1030
@oldguy1030 4 жыл бұрын
I've not yet used it, but I got mine today. It is very well put together and everything fits together very nicely. If one figures the time it would take and the cost of wood, T-track, buying HDPE and acrylic - it'd cost me more to build it myself (I don't have that stuff laying around and you need to get great precision). As more of an occasional hobbyist I think this is a very good buy. I might be happier with a Festool Domino but the cost. . . One thing to emphasize is that we do have to use a plunge router with an up-cut spiral bit. This will not surprise anyone who has used a router to make a mortise in the past, but for those of us who are new to mortising this will avoid surprises. But if you are even half-way serious about woodworking you likely have those or will get those anyway.
@wraith2440
@wraith2440 3 жыл бұрын
I contacted the company yesterday and they are very responsive. They have a reduced price of $199.00 with free shipping so I am ordering today. Thanks for posting this. I have wanted - and needed - to start creating mortise and tenon but was hesitant. I have also been hesitant to spend $1200-$1500 on a Domino for my hobby shop. I think this will be a great tool.
@wb_finewoodworking
@wb_finewoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a well thought out jig. Depending of which project from my list of upcoming projects I may need to get one this year. I like supporting small companies with great ideas. For me buying jigs allows me to turn out more projects because I save time by not making the jigs.
@ShopTherapy623
@ShopTherapy623 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Love your honest videos and willingness to help out fellow woodworkers!
@patcallaghan4665
@patcallaghan4665 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! I hope they sell a million of them! Thank you for the introduction, Jay.
@wilhelmmatthies5921
@wilhelmmatthies5921 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for demonstrating this so nice and clearly. I hope that your daughter is doing fine too!
@PaganWizard
@PaganWizard 4 жыл бұрын
I'll be getting one of these very soon. It looks like you get close to Festool Domino quality for about the price of a pocket hole jig. I am very impressed with this. You might just be, to this guys product, as Burt Reynolds was to Pontiac's Trans Am.
@jordanveverica6696
@jordanveverica6696 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. It wasn't until I saw you clamp the jig into the vise that I realized you could probably just put some t track into the top edge of the vise heads and forego the separate jig. I'm sure there would be limitations whenever you want a mortise in the end of a long board, but just a thought.
@mobeydick37
@mobeydick37 4 жыл бұрын
I just use a Porter Cable 7539, take out two of the base screws and install bolts with pilot bearing on them. Clamp 3/4 plywood flush with the top of the work on both side,. put router on twist to engage the bearings, plunge and slide it down the work. I bought 3 of the 7539s before Porter Cable discontinued them!
@adrianmack3
@adrianmack3 4 жыл бұрын
How well does that work when you want to put a mortise right near the edge of a work piece? I bet not very well with some additional support.
@mobeydick37
@mobeydick37 4 жыл бұрын
@@adrianmack3 You have to test out different thicknesses of plywood/MDF on one side or the other to change the center line of your mortise. I always cut my tennons after I cut my mortise. I've built about l50 large doors and outside gates using this method. Most over 20 years ago and I've never had a call back.
@GordonGEICO
@GordonGEICO 4 жыл бұрын
If you cut some small pieces to put between the middle plate and the stop blocks and size them to common sizes, you could very quickly set the spacing without having to measure. Or you could use one of those machinist sets that have every size - 10, 11, 12, 13mm, 1/2, 5/8, 11/16, etc.
@donbrowning689
@donbrowning689 4 жыл бұрын
GordonGEICO bingo you just guessed the exact setup instructions I put in the user guide. It truly is the fastest way to set it up
@donbrowning689
@donbrowning689 4 жыл бұрын
Bingo he just guessed the exact instructions I put in the user manual. It’s really the fastest way to set it up
@craigpereira6381
@craigpereira6381 4 жыл бұрын
that is an amazing tool. Excellent for supporting them and showing how the tool works
@norm1124
@norm1124 4 жыл бұрын
Back after a long time - happy to see you again ♥️
@valterleao6795
@valterleao6795 4 жыл бұрын
Parabéns meu amigo, quanta habilidade e carinho no que faz, adorei esse dispositivo, é simplesmente fantástico e muito funcional, não tem como matar a peça! Obrigado por compartilhar comigo seus conhecimentos. Abraço aqui do Brasil 🇧🇷
@JohnnyBallou
@JohnnyBallou Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Gave me great ideas toward routing my project, without spending $$$$!
@rmar127
@rmar127 3 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant piece of kit.
@jollyandwaylo
@jollyandwaylo 2 жыл бұрын
It occurs to me that if one of the wooden guides were longer than the other, a person could clamp a stop block so you wouldn't have to mark the center line each time if you were repeatable positions. You would just slide in the piece you are going to mortise and push it up against your stop block.
@bobkrol5939
@bobkrol5939 Жыл бұрын
I had the same idea!
@rajakorban8838
@rajakorban8838 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, another good idea. Should have got this before my PantoRouter.
@JayBates2
@JayBates2 4 жыл бұрын
They are completely different. The PantoRouter is much more capable than just mortises.
@rajakorban8838
@rajakorban8838 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Bates 2 - Vlog and Non Project Videos Yes very much more, love it
@jeffoldham668
@jeffoldham668 2 жыл бұрын
im going to check it out jay,,,looks great and you explained it well
@troyclayton
@troyclayton 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. Looks like I can build one in the time it takes to watch the video. I love having t-track around. I'll just add more holes in the base plate as needed. Thanks!
@AndreaArzensek
@AndreaArzensek 4 жыл бұрын
Quite smart jig and it seems to go now for a good price as well, it is just that I don't live in the USA 😪
@soundfireplace
@soundfireplace 3 жыл бұрын
I am happy to see this channel
@AdamCraigOutdoors
@AdamCraigOutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
little slower maybe then the Domino, but much easier on the wallet. Guess it would depend on if you are running a high flying business or a small business/hobby shop!! Super cool, thanks for sharing Jay!!
@donbrowning689
@donbrowning689 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Craig Outdoors I think it is more versatile in many ways
@paulsmith1141
@paulsmith1141 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been considering a domino for several doors I need to make, but this might work just as well and I can save myself $1300 plus dollars! Thanks Jay
@petecirca1979
@petecirca1979 4 жыл бұрын
The domino is awesome but it comes in two sizes. The xl and regular. I will buy this to do the big mortise the reg domino cant do.
@south_coast
@south_coast 4 жыл бұрын
Just noticed the Mississippi State logo on the wall. I was there 2010-2016 getting my undergrad and masters degrees in mechanical engineering. Cool to see. Hail State!
@JayBates2
@JayBates2 4 жыл бұрын
Right on. I lived in Starkville from 2011 to 2019
@south_coast
@south_coast 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Bates 2 - Vlog and Non Project Videos really? That’s crazy, small world. Would have been awesome to link up with you when I was up there. Really enjoy your videos man!
@wewe365
@wewe365 4 жыл бұрын
Isn’t that the cowbell state ?
@RobertBatte
@RobertBatte 3 жыл бұрын
From another MSU grad/fan Class of 1980.- How about the Diamond Dogs National Championship! This jig looks awesome. Nice tutorial as well.
@JEAN-me1yt
@JEAN-me1yt Жыл бұрын
Salut JAY, vraiment très bonne idée pour mortaisé les pièces à ensemblé, et moins cher qu'une fraiseuse à dominos, je crois je vais te piquet ton idée à plus et bonne continuation JEAN.
@camvanzin
@camvanzin Жыл бұрын
Great vid Jay. Thanks
@maheshsuthar2184
@maheshsuthar2184 3 жыл бұрын
what a very cool idea, Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@Markdoubts
@Markdoubts Жыл бұрын
Jay - can you talk about how to use the offset function to join different thickness boards flush.
@adambrowning90
@adambrowning90 4 жыл бұрын
Looks awesome!! Thanks for sharing!!
@tallyman15
@tallyman15 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@donbrowning689
@donbrowning689 4 жыл бұрын
tallyman15 I am waiting on 3 week late t-tracks but have 130 units almost done
@coleve8596
@coleve8596 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it makes sense to include an inset tape measure on the inside of the aluminium track set at zero on the centre line going in both directions.
@donbrowning689
@donbrowning689 4 жыл бұрын
Colin Nicol the original had that ( sort of) because like you I thought that would be a good idea. Ends up you don’t use it. thanks for the comment
@GeraldJensen
@GeraldJensen 4 жыл бұрын
Good video ... you are a standup guy!
@rsitch1
@rsitch1 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding!!! Bob
@GlassImpressions
@GlassImpressions 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent job!
@kensmith2822
@kensmith2822 4 жыл бұрын
on sale for $180 right now. seems like a great jig!
@dienekes4364
@dienekes4364 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like this would be extremely easy to make, especially if you only wanted it to router the center for making face frames and such.
@keupondestroy911
@keupondestroy911 Жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup pour la vidéo 📹
@mathewskapepa2026
@mathewskapepa2026 24 күн бұрын
Where can I buy one?
@paratracker
@paratracker 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool jig. Ideas on how you'd handle mortising ladder rungs in ladder rails on an angle?
@Muzikji
@Muzikji 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it can hold a back leg of a chair (not straight on) to be mortised?
@CB71SS
@CB71SS 4 жыл бұрын
Just checked and the $179.95 price doesn't seem bad to me. Have wanted to do mortise and tendon projects for a while. This looks to help making the cuts easier.
@Fresh-tw7ev
@Fresh-tw7ev Жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a Milwaukee cordless router. Would this mortise device work with that tool??
@brianwilliams8425
@brianwilliams8425 4 жыл бұрын
Very innovative. Now I can hold off from drinking the "green" kool-aid and save some $$$. Thanks Jay.
@donbrowning689
@donbrowning689 4 жыл бұрын
brian williams yes I think of it as a Domino slayer
@brianwilliams8425
@brianwilliams8425 4 жыл бұрын
Purchases one same day.
@VampireOnline
@VampireOnline 4 жыл бұрын
I like the jig, but it's a little expensive. This might be interesting built into your bench vice.
@donbrowning689
@donbrowning689 4 жыл бұрын
VampireOnline It is pricey, when I first dreamt it up I thought I was gonna be able to sell it for $99. WRONG. The vise thing is a great idea though,
@akbychoice
@akbychoice 4 жыл бұрын
Nice jig there
@NASTYcraftX
@NASTYcraftX 4 жыл бұрын
This is definitely a nice way to bypass the $1000 Domino for us hobby woodworkers.
@mkbcoolman
@mkbcoolman 4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@bwillan
@bwillan 4 жыл бұрын
You could also do this type of joint on a pantorouter as well. Seems like that would be an easier setup and easier to batch joints out.
@akbychoice
@akbychoice 4 жыл бұрын
bwillan how much $1200?
@capemaster123
@capemaster123 4 жыл бұрын
Jay, I really like this, and see how this will be super useful for thin pieces/edge jointing. Any advice or ideas on using this for mortising on wider pieces like panels for cabinet shelves?
@maheshsuthar2184
@maheshsuthar2184 3 жыл бұрын
superb
@daktari3055
@daktari3055 2 жыл бұрын
Coolness.
@LeonKleynhans-cd4tk
@LeonKleynhans-cd4tk Жыл бұрын
How do i get to purchase this jig
@doctortono
@doctortono 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for buy the bit that you used in this video please?
@chrisjohnson6482
@chrisjohnson6482 4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried a dowel Max? This jig seems pretty neat but there's a lot of math involved. I have a dowel Max and it's a pretty similar experience but a lot less setup. I know dowels and floating tenon's at not quite the same and there are times where this would do things my dowel Max won't do. But I think it's generally gonna be less work work dowel Max. Plus it uses a drill instead of a router
@donbrowning689
@donbrowning689 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Johnson there is very little math the way I do it DL the user guide an see my recommended set up procedure 😉
@paulsmith1141
@paulsmith1141 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, what hose/adapter are you using on your Festool router?
@JayBates2
@JayBates2 4 жыл бұрын
This one: www.rockler.com/dust-right-flexiport-power-tool-hose-kit-12-fixed-length/?sid=AFXA6
@user-ct7oc9zq2r
@user-ct7oc9zq2r 9 ай бұрын
Интересное решение.
@jamesbevan9989
@jamesbevan9989 2 жыл бұрын
Genius
@TheWingnut58
@TheWingnut58 3 жыл бұрын
Nice jig....but FAR too expensive for what it is...
@esixx17
@esixx17 3 жыл бұрын
Great for repeatable mass production. $200+ price tag makes it unreasonable for hobbyist. Several versions of diy scrapwood jigs out there as well as an old video from samurai carpenter for those who can't spend this kind of money.
@jesuscisneros2555
@jesuscisneros2555 4 жыл бұрын
Badass ILove it
@winniecorpuz
@winniecorpuz 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I by like this?
@jers21tvofw
@jers21tvofw 3 жыл бұрын
Awsom men
@timschenck509
@timschenck509 4 жыл бұрын
Looks pretty easy, kinda thinking 1000$ Festool mortiser might have been a foolish purchase after watching this! Thanks Jay
@dan__________________
@dan__________________ 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you dont want your festool domino anymore. In that case, I'll take it off your hands.
@clydedecker765
@clydedecker765 4 жыл бұрын
One comment - Only one of my routers has a base that is around that size - the others are one foot across - I made them. It would require that I remove my base and then attempt to get a "centered" router on this base???
@donbrowning689
@donbrowning689 4 жыл бұрын
Clyde Decker the slide plate is not a router base the base sits on the slide plate. It just looks like a router base cause it’s round
@clydedecker765
@clydedecker765 4 жыл бұрын
@@donbrowning689 True but my base plate is larger than the total openings...
@donbrowning689
@donbrowning689 4 жыл бұрын
Clyde Decker sorry but that’s not going to work
@martyjosephson4937
@martyjosephson4937 2 жыл бұрын
The Jig is very well designed, but you should clear up the travel explaination, you made confusing, sorry J
@genelomas332
@genelomas332 4 жыл бұрын
heh.. So I should have watched this video before responding via email.. My bad.. ;) Nice jig.
@TheBigTank
@TheBigTank 2 жыл бұрын
😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
@user-tf1nd4ci1i
@user-tf1nd4ci1i 4 жыл бұрын
Классно!
@vincechoraszewski2394
@vincechoraszewski2394 4 жыл бұрын
Nice jig, Jay dose he have a Patten on it or we all can try to make it?
@richardlug6139
@richardlug6139 4 жыл бұрын
As long as you do not try selling it, you can make it.
@Z-add
@Z-add 3 жыл бұрын
i'm surprised the chinese haven't cloned this product and sell it for $50.
@johncole9964
@johncole9964 4 жыл бұрын
Nice jig, but a mortise jig is not difficult to make - Mine is modelled after the plans in ShopNotes Vol 11 Issue 64 from 2002. I've used it for a long time and it does 95% of what I need.
@LordPadriac
@LordPadriac 2 жыл бұрын
It looks interesting but I'm not sure that I'd call something going for $279.00 (on sale for $209.00 right now) reasonably priced when the thing could be made from scrap and some spare, salvaged and/or cheaply purchased hardware. Seems like someone watched a few too many KZbin videos and decided to try and make a living by ripping off new woodworkers.
@phishy96
@phishy96 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for supporting the little guy, but could have made this vid less then 5 mins
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