Battle of The BEST!...HST vs Xtreme Defender 327 Magnum Self-Defense AMMO Test!

[@damiendarko9411]

337 Federal… the underrated stepchild of the magnum family.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆

[@bruceleroy8063]

And for good reason lol

[@denmar355]

Love the XD. Bone, flesh, shirt, jacket, doesn’t matter. It’s consistent and great wound cavities in pork shoulders.

[@billsharko3007]

You have to be the hardest working ammo and gun tester person on KZbin. You do a GREAT job Thanks.

[@garysarratt1]

He’s great, but I think #2 after Paul Harrell.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that!😎👊

[@str8shooter159]

This has become my favorite channel for ammo info. I dont buy ammo unless i watch and see if u have tested it first. I appreciate your work.

[@-CHeWy-]

6:08, this is why i will never understand why .327 Mag has not pushed the .38 Special off the shelf. Plus most of the time you get one extra round.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Cost and availability I'm sure are the main reasons.

[@-CHeWy-]

@@ToolsandTargets Oh for sure, i agree. But this round really needs to take off.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I'd like to get a Henry chambered in it but since they discontinued them, they're expensive to buy.😆😆@@-CHeWy-

[@geedubb2005]

It’ll never push the 38 off the shelf.

[@-CHeWy-]

@@geedubb2005 It wont, .38 is buried in history now, how every the .327 is a better round.

[@corybrown8422]

If I can get my hands on them, I got to get those HST's for my 327 as well. Right now I got the Hydra shok.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Those are some good ones too.😎👍

[@hoffpbass]

I have been enthused by the 327 Mag since you bought that tool and did your first velocity testing against the other 327 variants. What a great carry option for some and what a great round. To me, it seems a better option than a 38spl. Thanks Tools. Great comparison and great results.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed. Thank you sir.😎👊

[@geedubb2005]

Here’s the kicker, when the next ammo shortage comes around, I’d be concerned with availability of 327. 38 has been around since God was a Corporal and you’re more likely to find, buy, or barter for a few rounds. Even though it may be scarce, there’s millions of rounds of 38 out there. If you buy a 327, buy yourself a couple thousand rounds.

[@hoffpbass]

@@geedubb2005 having just lived through the Minneapolis Marxist Revolution (I mean mostly peaceful riots) of 2020 and 2021, I can assure you that no revolver is adequate for SHTF civil defense. So, I would not seek either expect for normal personal defense. But you are correct. And 38spl can run in some Lever Actions, too. So a little better. I have a Winchester 94 and I was totally out gunned from Antifa and their automatic weapons. So, just hunker down and protect any breach of your house. Israel proves the point this week too.

[@geedubb2005]

@@hoffpbass Too bad we can’t send those “peaceful” rioters to Israel or even Gaza so they can spread their love.

[@mtthwpnn]

Absolutely! The .327 has more energy at 100 yards than a .38 Special does at the muzzle

[@hammerhead222]

TAURUS 2 inch 8 Shot 327 Ultra-Lite Revolver. That's what we need!

[@russellweber3466]

That .327 Taurus is a good looking handy snubnose revolver. Years ago I got a good deal on a Ruger new model single seven .327 federal with a 7 1/2" barrel. And you can shoot .327 federal, .32 h&r mag, .32 s&w and .32 acp out of the revolvers.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I instantly swap out the factory grips on all these little revolvers. Makes a big difference for sure.😎👊

[@russellweber3466]

@@ToolsandTargets That is a cool looking snubnose revolver. Earlier this year I bought a used Walther P99 in .40s&w that has a green frame that says Walther made in Germany with black talon grips and a black slide that says Smith&Wesson, and looks like it belongs in a 007 Bond movie.

[@mtthwpnn]

Oh man, I'll bet you can achieve some crazy velocities with that long barrel

[@Cr0wmagnum]

That is a fantastic little cartridge. Would love to have a little lever gun for it. That H.S.T is one heck of a round!

[@geedubb2005]

If you buy a 327, be sure to buy plenty of ammunition with it because when we see the next ammo shortage, this stuff will be rare just because it’s so new on the market and not a common caliber. Thanks for the review!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@Adam-nv9zo]

HST never fails to impress me. Great test as always, brother.

[@jbred6049]

I've been reloading 327 with .312 Hornady XTP's, 13gr of H110 and small rifle primers. I don't have any numbers to share. I don't have a chronograph yet. But out of my Henry using a red dot I managed to shoot a .6" group at 25 yards with them. That's amazing for me. Next stop is chronograph land.

[@jbred6049]

@supercomp65 I can believe that. The numbers don't lie. 327 is a very adequate round. Particularly inside of 100 yards.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice! 😎

[@TheAxe4Ever]

HST’s and Gold Dots never seem to disappoint in all the testing of both of those rounds I’ve seen you do. The Xtreme Defender’s seem to do pretty good too. I’m just not a big fan of light for caliber rounds. But it seems to work really well for that 327 snubby.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, the light weight is what always makes me cautious on all of the "specialty" rounds.

[@travisweldmaster7815]

Oh i didn't even notice caliber here, 327fed mag is an absolute kick ass little cartridge

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yes indeed.😎👍

[@barryselden-x2s]

Finally, I’ve been looking for a comparison of these two rounds in 327 Federal magnum before I settle on the best self defense round in this caliber. Thanks.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Good stuff.😎👊

[@steelpunisher6944]

Wow! You can’t make a bad choice with either one of them. Especially for snubby performance. Perfect penetration for me but that personal preference. Awesome video and info as always my friend 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. 😎👊

[@tyroneleak637]

Where the extreme defender shines is in the worst case scenario, heavily dressed winter clothing it always does the same thing consistent damage

[@geraldbatts575]

Always love some 327. I have a 7.5in single seven also a LCRX. Dont get to shoot em as much as ld like still trying to conserve lol.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice. I really wanna get a Henry chambered in it.

[@deandeann1541]

He said he'd pick the Federal HST - but in the first 15 inches - which is where it matters most in my opinion - the permanent cavity of the Underwood Xtreme Defender was greater. The energy expended after the round passes through the target is not used to defend you.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@davidjernigan7576]

Tools giving the gel block a haircut 💈

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂😂😂

[@johndilday1846]

Great test. I really liked the HST results,but the Xtreme Defender was no slouch, either. I will have to get me some of that ammunition. Thanks for sharing.

[@LuckyDog350X]

With the velocity you got out of the HST's from that short barrel, I feel like them Underwoods could have been loaded a bit hotter. Sure hope they are not starting to skimp on things. With that being said both did good but the clear winner in my opinion is the HST's Have a good one brother see you on the next one.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I was thinking the same thing.😆

[@adamshaw8214]

I assure you Underwood is skimping. All the ammo I got from them was 200 fps below advertised. Was 300 win mag ammo, but same lieing company.

[@randlerichardson5826]

The HST is how a holler point is supposed to work now

[@Dwayne7834]

Both did great. I think that the big difference between the rounds would be hitting bone . I think the copper bullet might perform better. Thanks for the video 👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🦴💥

[@charlesmorgan1879]

Yes Sir ; those will take care of it ! I'll have to check'em out in 4 calibers...yay !

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@Mbartel500]

As much as I like the fluted copper projectiles, the HST reigns supreme! Perfect balance between penetration and expansion, and awesome performance in such a short barrel. 🏆👍👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed. Fantastic stuff.😎👊

[@garysarratt1]

It’s good, but the xd was much more destructive and had ideal penetration.

[@1diggers1]

Yep HST is the way to go. I’ve been watching a lot of videos of the fluted bullet, and again, as we can see here, the flutes causing more damage is a gimmick, those things just tumble. It does cause more damage but not how they say it does.

[@codyworley5623]

​@@1diggers1you have not watched many videos on the solid copper projectiles if that's what you think

[@davidwiechecki9205]

Extreme Defenders do better on hard barriers than any hollow point. Eric at IRAQVETERAN 8888 and Tim at Military Arms Channel tested the Underwoods on all the FBI barriers and the Underwoods were the only projectiles that were completely barrier blind.

[@brickhammerSS]

Hell yeah Tools, bring on the magnums! You ever think of taking some Mothers to that little Taurus? Remove the dull and make it shine. Did that to my Tracker and mad it look super sharp

[@ToolsandTargets]

That sounds like a whole lotta work.😆

[@lutherpayne9957]

I would like to have a .327 fed mag. but ammo is near impossible to find. The only place we can get ammo is at the few gun shops that have them at an extremely inflated price.

[@Kaelland]

Underwood really underperforming here. The Underwood ammo averaged 1036 feet per second at 50 yards, which gives it an average Ke50 of 226 energy foot pounds. By comparison, the HST averaged 1178 fps at 50 yards for an average Ke50 of 320 energy foot pounds. More velocity with a heavier bullet is really paying off on paper. In the gel, I'd call it a tie. Bigger initial wound cavity on the Underwood, but the HST penetrated deeper, and it seemed to be cutting its whole way through.

[@Hanover_Fist]

Thanks Tools!!!! another fine demo. Your 327 vids got me thinking about switching from my 38 special s&w snubby.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I need to do some tests on the other rounds it runs.😎👍

[@terrell48]

In my S&W 3” with a front port on top of the barrel it has lots of muzzle blast and recoil is hard on my 75 year old hand so in it I would use the Underwood in my Ruger LCRX it is a shorter barrel and friendlier on my hand so would shoot the HST’s in it

[@VoodooTHRE3]

The military should hire this guy to run small arms projectile testing as I’m sure he does more comprehensive testing than they do!!! Keep up the great work

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that 😎👊

[@doughibbard7063]

I would like to see a test thru sheet metal, wallboards, and wood.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@grigorirasputin5020]

Another excellent review! You are filling the void that was created when TNoutdoors9 stopped doing regular ammo tests! If I had a .327, I would definitely go with the HST. HST is good stuff and what I keep for my 9's. In my EDC G-19, I keep a mag of Underwood 115 gr JHP +P+ in the gun. Three spare mags on my belt are 124 gr HST +P, and one spare mag of Sig Sauer 124 gr +P FMJ NATO for barricade penetration.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that.😎👊

[@CarolinaRimfire]

HST reigns supreme no matter what caliber, in my opinion... I will say, 327 mag continues to punch well above its weight! Nice little underrated carry round if you dont mind the noise

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed 😎👊

[@charlesphillips5906]

Thanks for the short barrel!

[@abengelbrecht]

Definitely would take the HST, not sure I have bought into the XD flutes' actual wound channel in real flesh vs gel at handgun velocities. At least with the HST you know what you get for wound channels. Fun test to watch as always Tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@CrashRacknShoot]

Gotta love them HSTs! Hard to find a bad round with that slug design thrown in.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep

[@gwidwock]

I have Underwood Extreme Penetrater 380 in my Glock 42 and Federal HST in my Glock 26. Both are carry guns with non +P ammo. I don't own a 327 but if I did I'd be buying Federal HST. Great video, Thanks!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Hard to go wrong with either of these rounds.😎👍

[@josephpacchetti5997]

The HST is always great, Thanks Brian, Have a safe & Fun Weekend. 👊🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. You too!😎👊

[@NitrousFTW871]

Put sim bone upon the entrance of bullet for the hollow point

[@furmanmackey5479]

If Rossi chambered their R92 in .327 Magnum and Taurus were to chamber their standard, no frills, 66 with a 4" barrel in the caliber I would buy one of each and go cayote hunting!

[@ToolsandTargets]

I'd buy the Rossi, even with that atrocious safety, if they made a .327.😆

[@furmanmackey5479]

@@ToolsandTargetsThe R92 safety is indeed atrocious but it can be delt with aftermarket if you know what I mean. I got to thinking last night (it made my head hurt something fierce but I've gotten use to it after all these years) but I could see a 4" Charter Arms or even more to my liking, an 1873 Colt's clone chambered in .327 Magnum. Sadly, the .327, like the .30 Super Carry, simply never got off the ground in our area. I've seen exactly one box of .327 Magnum Federal HST as a matter of fact, but it was apparently accidently included in a case of .357 Magnum ammo that was delivered to a gun shop not far from here. But no firearms so chambered to date. It's because of videos like yours that I developed an interest in the .327 Magnum but apparently gun manufactures took a notion to limit the round to "personal defense" handguns (and precious few of them it would seem). I could see the .327 Magnum, when chambered in a R92 or 4" revolver being handy in close cover deer hunting in addition to making things difficult for cayotes. I mean, if the truth be known, the .327 Magnum is really a souped up .32-20 and more than a few deer have fallen to that little round.

[@gc641]

I carry underwood, I prefer the deep wound cavity, I’m a believer in underwood

[@bullpolizei]

Both are impressive for sure! Don't own a 327, but this definitely makes me think..

[@ToolsandTargets]

Capable little round.😎👍

[@jamestucker7513]

I would definitely go with the XD. I believe both are great but the HST can be defeated easier in barriers.

[@awolmartinez]

Tools & Targets is the firearms equivalent of Project Farm! 2 of the best KZbin channels Period!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that!😎👊

[@hillbillydan4721]

Just gonna throw this out there...how does the 327 Maggie compare to the 357 maggie, as far as recoil, report, and penetration? That little 327 is an awesome looking revolver !!

[@ToolsandTargets]

I would say all the ammo being loaded right, the 327 is probably between 38+P and 357.😎👍

[@hillbillydan4721]

@@ToolsandTargets thank you Sir, I'm partial to my sp101 357 but, I love the capacity of my Smith and Wesson SD9VE, which has become my EDC just for that reason !!

[@bigtrev761]

🇦🇺😎👍Hey brother I like those 327s , too bad they aren’t popular down here. Hard to get ammo as well….nice…great results , yeh😉👍….great honest test , great performers 🏁

[@ToolsandTargets]

They are pretty hard to get here too.😆

[@philipfreeman72]

Wondering who all makes flat point pistol ammo ? Maybeso good for hunting or every other carry .

[@chiefdoug9573]

Always enjoy your testing those HST’s always do great!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that!😎👊

[@pistolgrip44mag]

Hmmm, I am and have been subscribed, pretty much from the beginning. The little bell is rung, but I still did not get the notification. Luckily, it did show up in my recommendations. I was also warned by youtube about using an ad blocker. I will persist in my endeavor of being a free American. Thanks Tools for another interesting video, (AD FREE) at least for me.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆 I heard they were trying harder lately about the ad blockers.

[@wadelucero6461]

What a great test in this case hst is more practical but I would use extreme copper in serious condition SHTF,riots,multiple attackers I carry hollow point but spare mag is ex penetrater no AR so my go to is .357sig carbine with 68gr xdef 2500+fps and 90gr xpen 2200fps just gives you more barrier penetration of soft body armor penetration the fnfmj are hole punchers too love to see carbine tests from you👍👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

I have a ton of carbine tests I want to do.

[@John_Redcorn_]

I think if theyd push the Underwood faster it would be an even better wound cavity. Surprising to see it was slower than the HST

[@toneeclark399]

You rock! Great test. Honest data. Incredible energy. We trust 147gr HST in spouses G-19. I trust Underwood XD 90gr +P in my 9mm LCR. For me, the edge goes to a relatively barrier blind round that wreaks havoc every time.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@markw999]

Wish Taurus would put that pistol out in 3 inch like the website says they are. I'd have one tomorrow. You could still carry concealed, have 6 rounds of near .357 power in a small frame revolver with less recoil, and trudge through the woods stoked for bear and still be in good shape. Only other company doing that is Ruger and they want $900+ msrp. The 2 inch barrel is just too short.

[@raybo34]

Perfect test. I was looking at both of these... the only 327 ammo I could find other than hard cast. Hard to decide. What I found cost the same. I'll just get both. I like the recoil on the Underwood. Good if I have to one hand it and those copper rounds can defeat some barriers.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Check out Wisconsin Cartridge. They have all of the .32 rounds that these can run. It's reman, but I've run a lot of their .327. It's good stuff and decent price for what it is.😎👍

[@raybo34]

@@ToolsandTargets Thanks! Nice selection of 32s.

[@JJ_SDWR]

No surprise HST performed well. How does that 327mag feel to shoot compared to 38 +P or 357?

[@ToolsandTargets]

About the same as good hot .38 +P but a little more than a lot of what I've tried that was labeled +P.

[@jeffreybean5363]

Great Ammo test Tools on the .327 mag.👊🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate that.😎👊

[@scarifrougeone7225]

The 327 is a great performer, don’t think it matters what barrel length. Great test. Very informative and results. The HST is really a good performer. My go to. A+ test there. Thanks for sharing be safe. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Have a great weekend!😎👊

[@scarifrougeone7225]

@@ToolsandTargets you to my friend! 👊

[@AlekseySh1982]

Speer Gold Dot also great 327.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@torygyberg8837]

Nice work! I carry 100gr gold dots rated at 1500fps. First time I shot them out of the LCR it blew the paper target out of the clips. Wow, it was an event! Would be fun to see those tested also

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice. I need to grab some.😎👍

[@glenhenning9261]

HST would be amazing thru 3 inch barrel, maybe hit 500 ft-lb. My Taurus .357 5 round with 3 inch gives a huge energy increase over 2", only weighs an ounce or so more. Listening Taurus? Just as easy to carry and pull as my 2" .38 for me. Maybe the ultimate defense wheelgun would be a Smith titanium/scandium 8 round with 3' barrel.

[@Swampytheroot]

Nice test. I guess with a .31 cal projectile from a handgun depends a lot on penetration. These both pull that off very well

[@addytuney2028]

Thanks Tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@teabreak3006]

I want data on 300BLK and 327FedMag, so I can't miss it. 41Mag too.😁

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@theodorebrego3737]

Speer Gold Dot vs Buffalo Bore jhps 327. Maybe even a American eagle 100 gr soft point.

[@ariesmight6978]

.327 Magnums are priced between $1.50 to $2.50 a round. That is way to spicy pricy for me. I have seen very good quality .41 Magnums sell for less than $1.50 a round.

[@ToolsandTargets]

It's a pricey one for sure.

[@terrell48]

Have you ever tested 32 H&R mags in theat revolver I like it as a carry round in my 327’s or in my 32 H&R revolver

[@ToolsandTargets]

I have but I need to do a new one.

[@SouthernShodan]

Great test. I think you're right w/ HST being the best choice for defense. I think the XD might have an edge if you needed a round that was barrier blind like having to shoot from inside a car like the police sometimes have to do.

[@paulmo-we1mw]

Hey Tools, Thanks for another awesome test as always. Love those HST's. Keep up the good work Sir!👍👍👊

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that, brother.😎👊

[@leroycaudill96]

HST seems to have the edge but both performed real well good video Tools.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@orpheus280]

I've got a request if you happen to have it in the ammo stockpile. The .454 Casull 240gr XTP has ZERO recorded gel testing. Hornady and Underwood both have basically identical loads for it. If you don't have any, I'll be sending some to the PO box because I'm desperate to see what it does and have been waiting for someone to test it for about 5 years now.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Just looked in my stash and I actually have some Underwood loaded .454 Casull XTP but they're 300 grain.😆

[@racecitypatriot66]

Hot damn thats nice test. This 327 has impressed me so far. But any Magnum usually is good

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep. Definitely some good stuff.

[@327Federal]

Those 327 Federal HST’s are NASTY !! Wooo!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir.😎👍

[@DinoNucci]

Wrong

[@randybrunson2339]

I love the 327 but it's very hard to find ammo where I live.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Same here.

[@jwash3rd]

I was considering some of those Underwoods until I saw the price. I'm waiting for Doubletap to get some more of the Barnes 75 gr. all copper round. I got 1448 fps from the snubbie and the recoil is not bad at all.

[@anthonyguidas2012]

Nice performance, for my money I’d go with the HST. Both did well though.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed 😎👊

[@Mikelp73]

Found an old box of hst hydra shock the other day. 45 auto, though.

[@chretired]

Nice test Tools with very nice results. Either round would do the trick. Be vigilant and always be safe my friend.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Have a great weekend!😎👊

[@ronaldbarnes8302]

Nice performance especially out of a 2 inch for both rounds. Hard to beat the HST in any caliber. Thanks for the jelly test Tools!

[@Maddog3060]

Nice performance from both.

[@arby2348]

My EDC these days is a 327 LCR with the Xtreme Defenders. I purchased some HSTs but still haven't switched over. As your tests show, it's a tough choice.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Can't go wrong either way.😎👊

[@MeMadeIt]

HST is my go-to ammo, except for .380. And Xtreme Defender is my go-to ammo for .380. But I'd call the XD a fail in this test. There doesn't seem to be any evidence of spiraling at all. Might as well just been an FMJ. I noticed that the tips of XD revolver bullets are cut different than XD semi-auto bullets; a deep concave vs flat. Hmmm... 🤔

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, I noticed that too. Very different shape.

[@johnnymccann5607]

in our north Carolina deer rifle season you can use any center fire pistol/ revolver calibers you want with no minimum barrel length. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a deer out to around 30yds with that stubby327 mag. what better way to test your self defense ammunition. if I wasn't a good tracker I would not do it.but I'm a real good tracker. many deers legally killed here with 22 lr and 22mag. I killed many deer with 22mag vital shots. so I don't dought that 327 stubby will cleanly take a deer at reasonable distances. I greatly enjoyed the video. Papa wishing you well. 😊

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. 💥🦌💥

[@CombatVetTom]

Hey T&T! VERY good informative video as usual. Enjoyed watching ..

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@l.a.3887]

Great test I like the HST Great job 👍

[@garybrafford157]

Hst in 4in sp101,henry carbine.great job.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@RL-RL]

Both did very good. Educate me; Is the 327 Magnum in between a 357 Magnum, and a .38 special? Or a seperate tool? On these shorty revolver tests, you should do a Paul Harrell intro! 🙃

[@ToolsandTargets]

Totally different one. Kinda like the rimmed version of 30 Super Carry.

[@Martin-m1f3l]

Hst not a clear winner...I want the 327 to avoid recoil, fireball and retort of the .357 Mag. I want something more than a 32 H&R Magnum that even at 113 fpi less than the Hornady, still comes within 1 inch of penetrative, without the stout recoil and retort. I would definitely choose the Lehigh Defense Extreme Defender. Even better, would be a slightly less powered Hornady, due to the better wound channel. I really liked the comparison though. Thanks for keeping the 327/32 relevant. Perfect for pocket carry. No brandishing required....but still ready. Basically the Recoil of a 32 H&R Magnum, and similar performance performance to the highest powered Hornady ammo.

[@magnum_0710]

Federal makes no sense sometimes...nothing against the 327 but why would they make the 327 available but not the 357 version. I know the 327 is their cartridge but the 357 is definitely the more popular caliber. I've actually loaded some 9mm HST in 38 and 357 cases, works better than expected.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, they need to get it in gear with the .357.

[@magnum_0710]

@ToolsandTargets I don't know if you reload or not but if you're interested I'll send you some HST projectiles to test in 38 and 357. I saw a video of a guy running the 147 HST in 357 mag and Federal actually used to load the 147 9mm Hydra-Shok bullet in a 38 +p+ load for the FBI. I used load data for 125 grain XTPs and the old Speer 146 grain hollow point. So far so good, I haven't done any max loads but they run good and are pretty accurate at self defense ranges.

[@kc0lif]

hst for most calibers is a good choice.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yep

[@nikos6220]

Perfection. Best self defense revolver cartridge plus best bullet designs. Great test

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@chrisgabbert658]

👍😊🎯 they both will work , the winner would the best accuracy.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@jimchambers7548]

I've been wanting the 327, pretty impressive for such a small round👍

[@jackbauer9077]

Hey tools, on federal website I just bought new .327 hydra shok deep hollow points, just wanted to share since it’s ammo is like gold and not easy to find, and might give you a shot at being 1st to test it. If not I’ll let you know how it does in water jugs and 4 layers of jeans.

[@williamray3101]

My full size Beretta storm 9 mm. Rotating barrel.super light recoil.18 round capacity. No way 6 shot revolver on my hip.unless I'm in the woods with a rifle.😊😊😊

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@robertwess4556]

Another good ammo test

[@AWareWolf9]

Great test as always! 327 is no joke, what an excellent defensive round in general

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@thebluesrockers]

I watched your ammo find last night, and I'm looking forward to watching your super vail 38 specials, I think I spelled that right. Sorry if I didn't but I'm sure you know what ones I'm talking about. I'm really wondering if they'll do better through the clothing test. They'd probably be a good self defense round in some situations but not every situation. I can't watch this one until tonight because of my ad blocker. YT wants me to turn it off, and I'm computer illiterate. hahaha.. 55 and all I know how to do is write emails and watch video's. hahaha.. I just wanted to say thanks in advance. Like I've told you many times, I watch your video's at night on my TV. No adblocker stops me on my TV. as of yet anyway. Peace.. Joe

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that, brother. The .38 Super Vel acted much different through the cloth.😎👊

[@thebluesrockers]

@@ToolsandTargets awesome to know. Looking forward to checking out your video when you upload it. There's some things going on right now that I wish I could tell you, but YT always blocks my messages, or comments when I talk about those things. If you have an email that I could send you some of this information, I'd write it all out for you. It's factual information, and it's not looking good to say the least. Peace.. Joe