9mm vs 40 vs 45: Can’t Believe The Results

[@bananaballistics]

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[@jamesdiehl9251]

I like your videos but with the sand portion I would change it. I have not measured it but try to use like a smaller box selection like the usps boxes they have a smaller thinner and they have a box like the typical fedex or ups boxes. You could use several of them to test out the sand portions of your test and you could see how far they are actually going deep into the box’s for penetration. If you really wanted to, you could go to the post office and get boxes for free they don’t charge you. I love your videos that would be a change. I think you could use to show how far a particular cartridge is going through the sand portion of your test. Keep up the great work. Have a nice day. Sent from my iPhone

[@stsid1]

I play World Of Tanks.

[@djnone8137]

Bigger bullets make Bigger holes. Nam

[@theartefactum]

Hi, I would like to see an exotic contest: 357 Sig VS 9x23 Winchester. Please... 🙏✨

[@buzsalmon]

1¹¹

[@rbhe357]

3:54: if you're ever confronted by Mr Banana, just take a slight step to your left and you'll be fine.

[@redfaux74]

I would say half step.... 😂😂😂

[@absolutmauser]

😂

[@PROFESSIONALCRASHOUT]

​@@mdiner33 that is, if you are right handed. Be careful I guess, I can sweep faster than the right handed people.

[@chadcollins6854]

It's common for those who are not proficient with handguns. I would know... I'm one of them. I'm getting better though.

[@PROFESSIONALCRASHOUT]

@@chadcollins6854 don't give up. It's not easy. It's everything that shooting long gun is except harder.

[@LeoBaker-ir3vo]

"This pistol shoots to the left" proceeds to shoot left with 3 different weapons for the whole video. A bad carpenter blames his tools. A good carpenter blames himself. A great carpenter blames his apprentice.

[@WJ1333]

I noticed that as well , he is pulling the trigger and needs help.

[@brialex62]

The apprentice you say haha I'm gona use that one

[@serversurfer6169]

"This pistol shoots to the left." That's how he knows it's his. 😜

[@KC-bv9kf]

He should test drywalls and doorframes because that will be closer to his reality.

[@mycaddigo]

When you pull trigger right handed gun moves to left … it’s trigger pull .

[@AxelfoleyTheGreat]

This guys voice doesn't match his face 😂

[@denniss155]

I agree with it 😂

[@bufordard]

It's a rare an amusing thing, haha

[@kazager11]

Ray Ramano doppelganger

[@JHang697]

First thing came to me when first seen it 😂

[@Oxide4000]

Hes tryin hard for that big boy voice 😅

[@bobbressi5414]

You would be adequately armed with any one of these rounds.

[@rocknewtonfilsterwilly7364]

Not if you have to shoot at distance or thru a windshield or some other barrier...

[@srchnfrcj]

​​@@rocknewtonfilsterwilly7364Any of these 3 would easily penetrate a windshield while still retaining lethal velocity. People have gotten windows shot out by .177 pellet rifles...a 115-230gr bullet will go through the glass like a hot knife through butter. Not sure about .45 but a 9mm or .40 won't have much trouble penetrating a car door unless there is considerable distance. They both have greater velocity than the 45.

[@Aurichalcam]

Not enough to save Sparky though :c

[@harveywallbanger3123]

We know now that pistols are poor killers of men, even in proper calibers. The priority (beyond #1 shot placement, of course) thus needs to be on getting merely enough velocity to penetrate 12-16" and expand your chosen round reliably. You're not going to get any significant improvement on lethality by either using a fast tiny bullet (5.7mm) or a slow giant bullet (.45ACP). I'd imagine a supermajority of 1911 owners still think a .45ACP is going to "knock a man down".

[@surgeeclipse6323]

@@srchnfrcj All 3 go thru a car door also windshields....see Paul Harrell.....

[@Thousand_yard_King]

Lots of testing has been done on these three cartridges, every time what they find is that the 40 has 28% more power than the 9 mm, and the 45 has almost exactly the same as the 40. Which makes perfect sense because that's why it was made, to match the performance of the 45 ACP and the accuracy of the 9 mm. And it does it well

[@TaeussKramme]

Actually they were aiming to make the extra-hot 10mm then popular into something that people would want to shoot and that was commercially-marketable to all of those police agencies out there wanting to either finally ditch revolvers or replace their poorly-researched before adopted "Wonder 9s". 40 SW is a good compromise.

[@ChanoLeyva-hq2ci]

Naw 40 sucks

[@fobbitoperator3620]

10mm is GOODER!

[@El_Chompo]

From my extensive career in realistic video games, I can tell you that 9mm AP is pretty much the best sidearm there is. 40 AP would be fine too depending on your situation or needs. The issue is AP is not legal, and so people end up using huge cartridges to get more penetrating power as a way to get around not being able to use AP, and then you get huge kickback and not much capacity. And yeah I know that AP over penetrates unarmored targets which is not ideal. But what is even less ideal is not penetrating your targets at all if they happen to be armored. With 9 or 40 you should have plenty of capacity to land a number of shots relatively quickly with little recoil, so even with over pen, it covers all situations the best.

[@TaeussKramme]

@@El_Chompo "extensive career in realistic video games"??? Wow, there's the voice of experience. You can almost feel the recoil and smell the smoke. Not. I'm hoping (pleasepleaseplease) that you're JOKING. Right? If not please leave now and allow the adults to discuss the noisy thing that goes boom and hurts your ears. Sheesh.

[@Awesome_Force]

So basically, if you live in a state that restricts the magazine capacity to 10 rounds, get a .40 and if you live in an unrestrictive state, get a 9mm. Whatever you do, don't get a .45, especially when it comes to price and availability of ammunition. The most important thing however is shot placement. A .22LR with great shot placement is more effective than any of the other 3 with terrible shot placement.

[@Dre-xz2vm]

Underrated comment

[@HighCaLYT]

most underrated yet truthful comment about pistol calibers in this whole comment section

[@justauser]

Yes, except one issue with the .40, not as many guns are chambered in it (ESPECIALLY PCCs), and the cost. It's for this reason I'm still going with the 9MM even though my country limits mags to 10 rounds

[@seymoarsalvage]

I carry a .45, because I don't want over penetration.

[@thebargainshack6901]

Yeah, just don't hit just to the left of where you were trying to place the shot.

[@3rddegmm451]

I’ve worked in the operating room for 23 years and can tell you with 100% certainty that we have never operated on anyone with a .45 wound. Why? because they have already bled out. Plenty of 9’s over the years. Not saying one is “better” than the other. Train and carry whatever you want. Hell, I don’t want to get hit with a slingshot, just telling you my real life experience.

[@donovanchau3483]

One factor might be that .45 ACP is generally subsonic so the gunshot might not even alert people to call emergency services having the victim go significantly longer without being treated. It’s also possible the boomers carrying .45 are just better shots (doubtful but would be funny).

[@TheBirdboy84]

math says the .45 does more wounding/bleeding. its as simple as comparing circumferences. circumference = wound length. if someone says something different, they dont know how blood loss works.

[@paullang1505]

I think a comparison of cavitation on gel gives the best indication. 9mm is a great and affordable round, but often is too fast and can go right through an attacker before they know it.

[@phenri4809]

That's saying a lot. That said the most important thing is hitting what you aim at and shot placement... I know on my 45 if shit hit's the fan I've only got 7-8 rounds so I'm going to make that 1st one count, and it is as much of a 1 round stopper as there is.

[@GunsForEveryoneIsaac]

Operating room data is not relevant. Stopping the threatening behavior in the fight is the relevant data. And the data shows no statistical difference between these common calibers in self defense shootings. The biggest factor in stopping the threat from a physiological standpoint is number of rounds that hit critical areas, not caliber.

[@mongosafariadventure]

I've been a big fan of the 40 S&W since my department transitioned us from 357 Magnum revolvers in 1994.

[@Rubeless]

Proving cops dont know much.

[@af7119]

@@Rubeless 40 has much more energy. get a clue kid.

[@Dennisthemenace40]

The 40 gained its LEO followers because it put bad guys in the dirt.

[@bobborlog1677]

357 until 1994 damn are you rick grimes of king county Georgia. Coral!!!!

[@williampollock1274]

@@bobborlog1677 😂😂😂

[@mobileenginemedics9679]

One metric that no one ever mentions in these tests (you can see this best with your human eyes during the not so clear gel test) is how far the bullet carries the block. As we say in the automotive industry, “horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you carry the wall with you after impact”. There is an unmistakable difference in how far the .40 and .45 move the gel block compared to 9mm, even though their wound cavities are comparatively similar. This is living proof of the “knock down power” argument. Now how much does knock down power translate into lethality? Can’t say. But there’s a big difference in the torque of that punch, which in my unscientific opinion, seems like much more energy delivered. I’m not saying one is better than the other, but each have their pros, cons, and place on my belt.

[@tomiamonico8855]

@mobileenginemedics9679 Our range has a bowling pin hung by a chain. The power of impact can also be clearly seen. A 9mm is soft compared to the .45 which makes the bowling pin move drastically more!

[@shred1894]

Really, the only tradeoffs with .40 over 9mm is 2 fewer shots per magazine (15+1 instead of 17+1) and slightly snappier recoil. With some range time you can easily get used to the difference, and now you have a round that has better terminal performance. Also, during the coof lockdowns, I could find .40 all day when everywhere was out of 9mm. Yeah people don't like .40 because it isn't 10mm, but from an objective comparison to 9mm and .45, it has some very distinct advantages over both of those rounds.

[@shred1894]

@@Rubeless Nothing I said was objectively wrong. Just because you don't think it's a good round doesn't mean you are correct either. From purely a muzzle energy perspective, .40S&W is a lot stronger than both 9mm and .45ACP. If you look at the statistics for defensive use of a handgun, most altercations are solved within 7 rounds when rounds are fired. Having 15 rounds that are more effective seems like a reasonable tradeoff in my opinion, and I don't have weak wrists so I'm not gonna complain about snappier recoil. Of course when compared to 10mm, .40S&W does seem weak, but I don't think the comparisons are really warranted since the modern day usage of these rounds are different.

[@Rubeless]

Blah blah blah with your muzzle energy velocity geek specs. There is nothing wrong with any of the rounds. The problem is people thinking one is better than the other. Dudes get hit with rifle rounds and keep going, why? Because nothing important was hit. Tissue damage doesn’t stop people. He does these comparisons for the arguments in the comments and it works. Ask a surgeon if he can tell the difference between any of these rounds. We worry about where he is hit and state the obvious that it’s either rifle or pistol.

[@shred1894]

@@Rubeless I never said there was anything wrong with any of the rounds. Just because I said one thing is quantifiably better doesn't mean I think the other things are bad, just that the one thing is better because X reasons. Obviously shot placement matters, I wasn't denying that or trying to downplay that, but more energy means you have more leeway for hits that aren't quite perfect. Yeah a bullet to the heart will put you down, but a bullet right next to the heart can still put you down if it has enough energy. I don't understand why people on the internet seem to think that when someone says one thing is good, that they mean all the other things are bad.

[@eclipsegst9419]

like what distinct advantages? What we saw here was it having slightly better penetration in gel, and no advantage vs wood, something you would actually shoot thru, vs a standard 9mm Luger load. Not even 9mm NATO or +P which would easily outperform the load seen here. The 40 is not bad but it's basically pointless, it's trying to fill too small of a gap between the 9 and 45, one that just doesn't really need filled. now the 357 Sig, that's a good use for a gun that was chambered in .40. 1300-1500fps from a 124 grain is more than even 9mm +P+ and you aren't running a 9mm designed platform at the ragged edge of what it can handle.

[@Andriig75]

​@@shred1894don't feed the troll

[@dave7830]

Like how the 45 dumped ALL it's energy inside the wood block, no over penetration.

[@RANGER73CPT]

Forgive me for asking this BUT, isn't the objective of shooting a certain target to get the projectile to dump AS MUCH ENERGY AS POSSIBLE INTO THE TARGET? I could care LESS how much penetration power there is BUT I do care how much STOPPING POWER IS THERE.....That IS ONE of the reasons why the US Army is changing to a 6.8SPC over the 5.56...AND the reason WHY we were able to choose WHICH calibers we would use on certain missions we were assigned.(RGR BATT)

[@robertthomas5906]

@@RANGER73CPT They came up with the 45 ACP because army pistols were having trouble stopping enemy soldiers. The 38 short, and so on. So they went to a Chicago stockyard and started shooting at beef. They found the larger the caliber the more impact it had. So they developed what became the 45 ACP for the 1911 pistol. More knock down than a 9mm or 357? Maybe. I'm not convinced. The problem is the weight. You really notice it if you pick up a Tommy gun with a 50 round mag. The 30-06/308 and the 5.56 I couldn't believe how little a bunch of 5.56 shells weighed the first time I picked up a box. I was used to shooting the 30-06. I could carry whatever I wanted. I decided to use the 9mm. Today a 13-18 round mag isn't uncommon. If you're attacked lately it's more common for it to be multiple assailants. 5 or 6 shooter isn't enough anymore.

[@weaverclips]

@@robertthomas5906 that is why I habe 3 extra mags and what .45 only has 5 or 6 in the mag?

[@roseforeuropa]

@@RANGER73CPT If you're concerned about over penetration, then you're going to have fun with the 6.8 SPC. There's a reason why the 5.56 was designed with a 1% yaw.

[@michaelgutierrez4083]

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[@PeterFusco]

This guy has probably one of the best radio/voice-over voices I've ever heard, and I grew up in the broadcast industry.

[@matt8264]

His balls hang to his knees.

[@bigredc222]

It's hard to pay attention to what's in the video, his voice is so overpowering.

[@thedanyesful]

Is it real? My first impression was it had some post-production effect applied.

[@bigredc222]

@@thedanyesful I'm never sure about anything online anymore, but I think it's his real voice.

[@dontall71]

Sounds a bit like Ray Ramano.

[@JoeltheOrnery]

I saw a bumper sticker yesterday, it read: ".45 ACP because shooting twice is silly"

[@tiagobelo4965]

Man I can't wait until they find out about 500SW

[@lardomcfarty9866]

People kept going after getting shot by .45 acp tons of times

[@ihcterra4625]

@@lardomcfarty9866That’s why I went to a .40.

[@hercules1073]

@@lardomcfarty9866 Links?

[@Rubeless]

It’s where it hits dummy

[@hk93shooter]

the caliber in your holster and loaded is the best choice. cheers.

[@leftyo9589]

it beats the one you dont have!

[@ilongfordarkness]

Yep. So use what you like. Caveat being I suppose if you are just starting out and like a bunch and the rounds perform similar pick the one you can practice with the cheapest. No point having the one with 4x more expensive bullets you never train with.

[@harveywallbanger3123]

True. But if you're packing below a certain penetration level, you'd better hope your target has a low pain tolerance and isn't wearing thick clothing. You have no idea how many people are running around with snub .22 revolvers they never practice with who feel pretty damn good about their odds...

[@naturestudies8040]

Cheers is for beers😂

[@Jdmitchell308]

@harveywallbanger3123 I don't like over Penetration because I like to not have a law suit with a innocent bystander.

[@user-ug7fk2js2x]

I'm convinced half the comments on here about .45 didn't even watch the video and the results. They keep yelling, "muh stopping power" and seem to ignore they perform nearly identical in the video.

[@HanginInSF]

Wait......no they didn't

[@vidar188]

Not everything is about penetration. A 45 leaves a bigger hole and has a faster rate of blood loss, and will not over penetrate to the person behind the target. But also so few people are actually open minded about their caliber of choice lol

[@stoner63reflex65]

​@@vidar188exactly

[@paulp.6399]

​@@vidar188 You forgot about 50% less capacity and 30% more recoil than a 9mm. No thanks.

[@vidar188]

@@paulp.6399 I'm a large guy so I eat the recoil, and I carry 2 extra mags for my glock 30s so I'm not super worried about it. But yeah for smaller or even normal size people I wouldn't recommend it

[@johnanderson3405]

Carry whatever you can shoot what you’re aiming at….. ( not to the left of it) Kidding, love your work 😂

[@rmersmannsr]

Just started the video but I've been carrying 40 for 20 years over 9 and 45. Seen some articles back then that tech to get results and that convinced me. Plus more punch than a 9 and more rounds than a 45. But carry what you like not a hater like some

[@rob10ring]

While 9 and 40 are pretty similar, Will Dabbs, MD. Wrote that when people shot with them came through his ER, the .40 recipients were doing worse.

[@TROOPERfarcry]

This is largely incorrect. Physicians can't tell the difference in pistol calibers based on the wound. Can't prove what one guy said or didn't say, but I know what ED physicians in general say, and they say you can't tell the difference of one handgun wound and the next.

[@rob10ring]

@@TROOPERfarcry That’s kind of what his article said, but he added that they were often dong worse. He wasn’t trying to measure wounds.

[@mindgames11]

hmm... it seems like you're so well informed that you could have actually posted the reference. not that doctor dabbs would likely write anything not stuffed full of editorial. yea.. I want to go to a physician who's not sure if his primary skill is medicine or hee-haw.

[@Farweasel]

@@rob10ring That test gave speed of the round So I guess if you also know the weights of them You can work out which has the most kinetic energy But ..... How do you take into account MAYBE one type of user shoots from closer range than another?

[@TROOPERfarcry]

@@Farweasel The OP is giving out bad information. As I noted previously, ED physicians can't tell the difference between one type of handgun caliber wound and another. At best they can remove the projectile and then determine what it might be afterwards, but it's not like they can tell a 9mm +P from a regular 9mm from a 9mm +P+ or a 9mm NATO, or even a 380 or a 357 Sig, etc. What the guy pushing this nonsense hasn't yet figured out is that the ED physician would have _NO WAY_ of knowing what caliber the person was shot with -- which he acknowledges -- but then goes on to claim that the "40-shot-guys-are-doing-worse".... but _HOW?_ If they can't tell what someone's getting shot with, they can't tell which ones are doing worse. It's a load of BS. And as you yourself pointed out, the difference is some minor energy differences which rely on velocity... ok, but velocity tapers off with distance, and if there are other barriers up, or even extra layers of clothing. It's pure nonsense. We're too elastic for that. We can see the wound, sure, but you literally can't measure a 9mm hole in the skin, versus a .4 inch hole in the skin, versus a .45 inch hole in the skin. _The ED physician _*_can't tell_*_ what the patient was shot with, so the ED physican _*_can't say_*_ which calibers cause worse wounds._ But even if they could, ballistics gel is pretty consistent... but humans and animals are *absolutely NOT* consistent on a shot-to-shot basis, even with the same caliber. Don't get me wrong, if I _HAD_ to choose which to get shot with, I'd play the obviously safer bet of getting shot with a 9mm Para versus a 40 S&W... and in the big scheme of things, 40 probably does produce marginally better results when comparing hundreds or thousands of gunshot victims. But on a case-to-case basis, they're essentially identical in their results.

[@brandiwynter]

Any chance you could leave the chrono results up a little longer? They are almost impossible to see when watching on a phone or TV.

[@mhma1976]

Pause...

[@DinoNucci]

​@@mhma1976correct

[@brandiwynter]

@@mhma1976 well duh.....it flashes so fast it's extremely difficult to stop on that frame. It might just be my platforms but an extra second or two would definitely make it easier.

[@mhma1976]

@brandiwynter wtf...you do know you can choose a slower or faster play speed❗️ slow the video down and pause it‼️ you're welcome. DUH❗️

[@brandiwynter]

@@mhma1976 well obviously I don't know how to do that or I would have already done it. How about a heads up on how to do it?

[@larryweiss7170]

One must remember that the .45 was designed specifically for stopping power, not penetration although it is no slouch. I'll take a .45 over ANY other for self-defense. Foot pounds is what actually stops an aggressor. The 115gr 9mm at muzzle is 328FP. At 50 yards 268FP. The 180gr .40 cal. at muzzle is 429FO, at 50 yds 387FP. The 230gr .45acp at muzzle is 461FP, at 50 yds 421FP. The big fat, slow moving bullet wins every time for self-defense.

[@hotrodray6802]

185+p 👍👍👍

[@90lancaster]

Fatboys have superior penetration. Something to remember I guess.

[@MarkHoover-dv7mf]

if you hit your target...

[@johns3153]

This isn't the movies there is no stopping power or knock down power in a handgun just ask Sergeant Timothy Gramins why 45 didn't work for him he shot a criminal 14 times and 6 of those shots was to fatal locations yet the bad guy was still rushing him there is also several war stories of guys dumping 2 full 1911 mags in combat just to stop one enemie

[@Ottomypall]

Bravo 45 is like a mack truck hitting a Kia.

[@livewire2759]

Yep... still glad I chose 40... Honestly though, they're all meant for the same purpose, self defense, so it makes sense that they'd have very similar results. As a mechanic, I often get asked which car/truck brands are the best and I always answer with, "it's not what you drive, it's how you drive it." Same goes for calibers... it's not what you shoot, it's how you shoot it. Practice makes perfect.

[@TestUser-cf4wj]

Every Yugo driver ever says you're wrong about "what you drive" I'd wager Taurus shooters might say the same.

[@livewire2759]

@@TestUser-cf4wj LOL Well... there are exceptions to every rule...

[@sherylhamilton3479]

I would laugh so hard if I found out someone I was dating was carrying a 9 while I had my 40.

[@jlalbee]

Very well said.

[@livewire2759]

@@jlalbee Thank you.

[@LTVoyager]

Should have measured how far each round moved the gel block.

[@bobr7380]

Yeah because the 40 and 45 did a bit more pushing than the nine and dumped more energy because THEY EXPANDED MORE. It's a parachute effect that dumps the energy.

[@LTVoyager]

@@bobr7380 Both penetration and energy dump are important. One should not be ignored as was done here.

[@rrro-nj2cd]

@@LTVoyager Agreed, I would like to a see a test with all the factors considered. Distance from the target, velocity, penetration, as well as how far the gel was pushed. www.youtube.com/@bananaballistics has the tools, can we get a retest?

[@harveywallbanger3123]

"Knockdown power" in subsonic handguns (generally the .45ACP) is a non-Newtonian bar myth disproven years ago by simple tests. A pressure transducer on a gel dummy's chest shows what you can see with your own eyes: it quivers on impact as if slapped, but doesn't move even an inch backwards. That's because a .45ACP lives in the real world of physics, where no shoulder-fired bullet in the world has enough mass to strike a 175 lb human and physically knock them backwards like the cannonball man at the circus.

[@LTVoyager]

@@harveywallbanger3123 Where’d that come from, Sherlock? Yes, everyone knows knockdown is a myth. Then again no comment in this thread said anything about knockdown power.

[@karnypharax1917]

The .45 ACP round performed as expected and did NOT over pernitrate because it was NOT designed to. It is big and slow so that its intended target can stop it and absorb all its kinetic energy.

[@mikevaquero3766]

Kinetic energy between typical handgun service rounds (9, 40, 45) is irrelevant. It's not enough to cause remote wounding in a human like rifle rounds do. Therefore, it doesn't matter if a body "absorbs" the pathetic small amount of kinetic energy imparted by a handgun bullet.

[@JW-fq1pp]

Looks like it boils down to preference/affordability/availability of ammo.

[@DinoNucci]

Nope. 40 ftw

[@WaterZer0]

45 is low pressure, and low pressure is just bad. Now if someone made a 45 with the same pressure as the others, yes it would be better; but I imagine the recoil would be fairly unpleasant. You also get quite a bit less capacity with 45.

[@BamaShinesDistillery]

@@WaterZer0 They do. Its called the 45 super. Or you can go 460 Rowland and hit as hard as a 44 mag.

[@WaterZer0]

@@BamaShinesDistillery I will pass on the increased split times and discomfort.

[@BamaShinesDistillery]

@@WaterZer0 Properly tuned gun doesnt have much of either.

[@stompingpeak2043]

40 is like a 9mm with speed and a 45 with energy dump. Its literally the best of both. People usually stay away because it has more recoil than both. Other than that its absolutely superior

[@roquri]

Yeah, but 10mm = best mm!

[@stompingpeak2043]

@@roquri then 44mag or something similar is even better. 10 isn't in discussion. There's almost always a better round

[@mrjesuschrist2u]

Worst of both worlds

[@GT500Shlby]

I actually don’t mind the recoil. I almost prefer it. 10mm has more recoil for sure, but does outperform .40. Obviously all 3 have their uses with regard to 9mm, .40 and .45. 9mm being the most popular and cheapest of the bunch. But I still daily carry a .40 Glock 27, and I have a .40 Glock 23 truck gun.

[@Rubeless]

More rubes

[@richardvanwagner6245]

This video perfectly shows exactly why i chose a 40 s&w when i picked my pistol, the wound channel is closer to the 45 but Penetration better than a 9mm, yeah i give up a couple rounds in my mag but i carry a extra mag because "be perpared" is a mindset not just a saying!

[@jonathanrogers9961]

IMHO, with modern bullet design 9, 40, and 45 are all very effective. At this point, given a good bullet choice, I feel its down to personal preference. Given the same size pistol, 9mm carries more and has less recoil, meaning you can shoot faster and have more rounds to put on target. Never was a fan of 40. And 45 is just cool.

[@Kactuskid7]

I definitely agree with your assertions. I choose 9mm because of price, capacity, and quicker follow up shots. 40 is great but its more expensive and robs you of a round or two of capacity and is definitely snappier. 45acp is a dream to shoot but even less capacity and even more expensive.

[@Darth-Nihilus1]

I usually carry the 45 A lot but I have started carrying a 9 more since it’s a small sized gun. Summer is hard to conceal a full size pistol

[@DavidKasan]

And there is not a single one of any of us that wants to get shot with any of these rounds!

[@PROFESSIONALCRASHOUT]

Yeah i agree. It's a handgun after all. It leaves alot to be desired at least in terms of it's ballistics. There's a reason military and police have rifles, they are effective. Yeah, rifles pierce armor. But that's a bonus in my opinion. They cause cavitation even with FMJ because of the improved velocities. which Is awesome in terms of taking down living things. You ideally want great cavitation.

[@Rubeless]

Cavitation? As in what comes off a boat prop…there’s a reason military and police have rifles? Is there? I thought it was for marching.

[@russellroach1219]

45 is a subsonic round, dumping its energy on impact, hard hitting, not a deep penetration

[@jorgesolis9468]

40 sw has the speed expands faster meaning dumping its energy fast as well and just as powerful overlapping with 45

[@CrotalusKid]

Those certainly are words

[@TheBirdboy84]

@@jorgesolis9468 smaller bullets = less bleeding. otherwise we'd all be using 22 mags.

[@jorgesolis9468]

@@TheBirdboy84 that's false and secondly less bleeding isnt a bad or good thing look at 357 mag it was a .357 and had better performance than any 45 auto round that was .452 stop listening to the fudds

[@jorgesolis9468]

@@TheBirdboy84 lethality does not equel effectiveness in the case 22 or would be the best self defense caliber since more people are shot and killed by it than any other

[@JCody-pt3th]

This guy should host a late night smooth jazz radio station program with that voice.

[@grouptherapy812]

I know, right? Love his voice.

[@Paladin1873]

I think the .45 won the penetration and expansion test. Anything over 12" is of little consequence, but that huge wound channel is the gift that keeps on giving.

[@cgatito3528]

Looked the same as the nine, as he said in the video.

[@Paladin1873]

@@cgatito3528 The 45 was .877" in diameter while the 9mm was .696" and the 40 S&W was .742".

[@CraigTodd-x9d]

No 9 or 40 can match the permanent wound cavity diameter of the 45...just the way it is folks.

[@Paladin1873]

@@CraigTodd-x9d Yes, and while all projectiles are constantly losing velocity, they don't lose mass, so the 45 can still pack a wallop.

[@nezuminezuminezumi7266]

@@CraigTodd-x9d Last time I checked, 2x 9mm wound channels have a much greater surface area for bleeding than a single .45. But keep on coping.

[@josiahrice6810]

Currently between 12 and 16 in is considered the best performance for defense ammo. What this proves is hst ammo is very well engineered to perform to the modern standard regardless of caliber.

[@jimthvac100]

I like how the .45 dumps all its energy into the perp without over penetrating and hitting unintended targets.

[@motorcitymadman146]

its slow

[@wendellhatcher7011]

​@@motorcitymadman146that is the point 😂

[@alwaysfreedom9354]

The military wanted all or most of the energy used up in the enemy's body. When they tested the .45, they shot live pigs and dead men. Also, expanding bullets are not legal under international laws of war. So, they wanted a large bullet.

[@touristguy87]

you didn't notice the 45 round coming out the side of the sand block

[@boedude8496]

none of them do, providing the bullets expand properly. occasionally lower velocity can inhibit that

[@miniaturefarmer464]

I have 2 .40's. Love them both!

[@charlesp9681]

Was issued one. Couldn't wait to get rid of it!

[@analogueoverdigital929]

​​@@charlesp9681I probably bought yours 😂. Got 4 police trade in glocks in 9 and .40. I paid 1000 for all 4 of them. They all shoot like a dream. To each their own. Three g22s and a g19..

[@losi8ightyew]

@@charlesp9681 Weak arms, eh? I'm like the dude above, buy those police trade in's all day, gimme my 600 ft lbs of energy for a bargain.

[@haroldcall2441]

I did a similar test several years ago with a 9 mm, a .45 ACP, .357 Rem Mag, and .44 Rem Mag. I had several bundles of old magazines, all about 8 in. thick. I stood them up, front toward me, and shot each caliber into a separate bundle. The 9 mm barely penetrated the first six or eight magazines, and didn't even knock the bundle over. The .45 penetrated a bit farther, and knocked the bundle off the log. The .357 penetrated about half-way and knocked the bundle over. The .44 blew the back out of the bundle, knocked it about four feet, and whined off down the canyon. Daaaamn! All were solid slugs, no hollow-points, and no FMJ's.

[@forrestlaw6969]

My dad left me a .40 Hi-Power and I love it. So that's what I use. Thanks dad

[@charlescarmichael1124]

Hi point?

[@Swagjagson]

@@charlescarmichael1124 no FN hi power. Its a gun germans used during ww2

[@ifly2themoon171]

@@Swagjagson Never heard of it and I'm doubting german military would have used rounds in an inch format before joining NATO. Could you tell me more so i can get what you are talking about?

[@forrestlaw6969]

@@ifly2themoon171 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWfPeKZ-bLtog5Ysi=BDuZYkwg7GZzseOO

[@TheBenjammin]

You're straight up lying and I don't appreciate it.

[@kennethsaunders7108]

I don't get the argument? Carry what ya want. JUST carry.

[@Timberwolf5000]

Should have taken into consideration how far the jel block moved back with each shot.

[@member57]

😂

[@timd729]

9mm is around $10 a box. 40 s&w and 45 is around $20+ a box. That is the real ballistic gel test right there.

[@hotrodray6802]

So what? How many $2.50 bullets are you going to shoot at a perp???

[@donaldcarey114]

@@hotrodray6802 None that will hit if you don't spend a lot of time at the range. Practice requires bullets.

[@matthewconnor5483]

​@@hotrodray6802 a mag full or more.

[@Tom-cp6yj]

What premium hollowpoint is $10 a box?

[@mbt1955]

@@hotrodray6802 As many as it takes.

[@brucesaddsjonesborosacs9101]

The old grumpy guy at the end on the toilet took me out 😭 “ good more of the 40 &45 for me” 😂😂😂🤣 I was watching it on the toilet and wanted my 40 to win too😂😂

[@hb9145]

They all get the job done. Use whatever you are most accurate with.

[@bernieeod57]

The late Colonel Cooper decried the Army's insistence the .45 ACP duplicate the ballistics of the .45 Schofield instead of the .45 Colt. Cooper declared Government hardball be limited to practice ammunition. As far back as 1956! He specified what was then called the Super X load. Today we refer to it as +P. 230 GR loaded to 965 fps. One needs to test such a +P load

[@rogueldr642smiythe9]

In a 5 inch barrel.

[@pocketsand4404]

People overthink this waaayyyyy too much. The best caliber is the one you have with you when you need it. Roll with whatever's most comfortable with you and stick with that.

[@ratagris21]

Use stickers to mark your shots placed. Different colors for sets or calibers.

[@TestUser-cf4wj]

IKR?

[@tommissouri4871]

Even a plain marker would have worked. I use dry erase markers at the range since I have several colors.

[@matthewphelps5136]

Love the T. Howard ref. with the 1x1=2 thing. Hilarious

[@BlueRidgeCritter]

I still prefer 45 or 40 over 9mm, but there is something to be said for the smaller frame sizes you can achieve with 9 and 40. I have talked to a lot of field cops about their actual experiences, and honestly, 9mm is adequate for most cases, but it usually takes more of them, and for decent performance, you need +P. But, cost, training, carryability, are all important, too. So lately, I carry 9mm for most regular things where I don't really expect anything to happen, and .40 where I'm feeling more concerned.. I don't mind the recoil, even in a G27, but I'm also used to shooting .45 and 10mm regularly for many years. But...the old adage applies - they are all better than a pointy stick, and the .380 you have in your pocket when something goes sideways is still infinitely better than the 10mm you left at the house

[@animal0mother]

I heard from a trauma surgeon that he couldn't tell you the difference between their wound tracks; they'd only find out which caliber the moment they pull the bullet out.

[@shaymathews7693]

This has been done to death yet I'm STILL pumped you did these tests! Buck yeah!

[@justauser]

Yep, every test shows why 9MM makes the most sense but, the debate will never die 😅 IN THEORY the 40 should be superior, on paper, but in practice we all keep coming back to the 9MM

[@cptkiddokidd5137]

Would love to see an evaluation of how far the ballistic gel block MOVES upon impact with each round. I'm not a .45 fanboy, but the gel block really seemed to jump when it was impacted. That tells me "something."

[@scarpia519]

What I carry is: 9mm for highest capacity in the smallest size 40 S&W for stopping power 45 ACP for accuracy

[@lenzielenski3276]

12ga. Don't leave home without it.

[@TheBirdboy84]

huh? lol

[@user-ug7fk2js2x]

.45 has the worst velocity and BC, so more drop off and more lead needed, making it the worst in terms of consistent accuracy.

[@lenzielenski3276]

@@user-ug7fk2js2x My 45 will do an inch at 50 yards. I don't need more than that.

[@TaeussKramme]

@@lenzielenski3276 Personally, I can regularly put ten rounds rapid in a pack of smokes at twenty so I figure that'll do. Lucky that I don't smoke.

[@MyRealDelusion]

that voice should not come out of that person.

[@tonytaylor5461]

I've been imitating it all morning

[@LongGun223]

😂

[@jasona.palmer6993]

Lol As a 47 year old man all men of all sizes had that same deepness of voice. But I have noticed that almost all men today younger than me have high pitched voices that leave me saying that high pitched 11 year old voice should not be coming out of that full grown man.Everyone I knew had voices like that by 12 years old. I didn't even notice until I saw your comment and thought wow. That's sad.No testosterone the men are not men anymore.

[@jaylencopeland1127]

😂😂😂

[@greatBLT]

He has the deepest voice of any guntuber that I've seen

[@MrGsteele]

I posted this below in response to a comment about ER wound experience, but I thought it might be worth repeating here for higher visibility: You can't compare lethality by caliber diameters - you have to compare surface area, which varies as the square of the radius. .40 is 13% wider than 9mm, and .45 is 13% wider than .40, but the area of the .40 is 27% greater than the 9mm, and the area of the .45 is 27% greater than the .40 and 61% greater than the 9mm. That's what determines the size of the wound channel and the rate of blood loss. This particular .40 didn't expand as much - perhaps that's shot-shot variability - but the relative size of the expanded bullets is about the same, with the expanded .45 still 60% bigger than the 9mm. 9mm wounds are for the ER; .45 ACP wounds are for the morgue. As for recoil, it's very gun-dependent. I have a .40 that recoils - same model gun - less than its 9mm clone; that's confirmed by three separate shooters. The recoil is softer and less snappy, which puts follow-on shots on target faster - which is the only thing that matters with recoil. Both guns are compact concealed carry weapons (Taurus G2c) and if it were available in .45, I'd probably opt for that if the recoil was equally controllable. Bigger holes, more damage. P.S. I have a different .40 - much heavier than the Taurus - but it recoils far more; slide velocity, mass, and slide impact speed, barrel axis height, grip angle - all those things matter in muzzle rise and follow-up shot speed. I'll take the Taurus over my S&W 4006 any day. Good video.

[@HalfCrazy520]

My EDC is a Sig P-320C in .45 Auto. It was between that and the Glock 30SF. Barrel is longer on the Sig, Glock holds one more round. I chose the Sig for the ergos, trigger, and night-sights. If I leave out the 1911 (too heavy, low capacity), the Sig is the pistol I shoot the best, so I carry that. Recoil? 9mm is snappy (high pressure) while the .45 is more of a push (low pressure). My wife mostly shoots 9mm and carries a 9mm. She says she doesn't notice significantly more recoil shooting my Sig. What she notices most is that it weighs more than her 9mm pistols. Some people's nightmare is not having enough bullets... my nightmare is that the bullets have no effect on the threat. The .45 makes the biggest hole and does the most organ and blood vessel damage, which is the goal, yeah? I definitely wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of a 230 grain HST.

[@bbaz6729]

Carried a .40 my first 5 years in the department. After that switched to a 9 as it was much easier to shoot accurately and the ballistics had greatly improved. Been shooting a 9 for the last 16 years. I also gained a couple of rounds over the 40. 6 years ago, the department got rid of their 40s and went straight to 9s.

[@2vintage68]

Makes sense.

[@charlesp9681]

Was issued a 9mm after carrying a .357 magnum. Shot great, had decent ammo (Speer Gold Dot). Then was issued a .40 caliber. Didn't like it at all, couldn't wait to get a different caliber gun. Then we were issued. 45 GAP caliber. Best round we carried, pretty near 100% effective stoppage (read that however you want to). I left just before they switched back to the 9mm.🤷🏻‍♂️

[@bbaz6729]

@@charlesp9681 The old adage is indeed true....The best firearm for you is the one you shoot the best. "Hits on Target" are what matter....

[@hordboy]

40 is my favorite because it’s 31 more than a 9 but only 5 less than a 45.

[@lardomcfarty9866]

Too early to be smoking crack.

[@hordboy]

@@lardomcfarty9866 that stuff is for lightweights! .380 shooters and the like.

[@lardomcfarty9866]

@@hordboy okay crackhead

[@SvenElven]

I'm a noob pistol shooter but I joined a pistol club and have been shooting a lot for the last six months and I'm pretty surprised by the lack of difference in felt recoil between 9 mm and .45ACP. At least when fired from «big» auto pistols like a Beretta 92 and a 1911, the difference is really nothing to write home about. I expected it to be the hand cannon (.45) vs the pea shooter(9mm)!

[@chrishooge3442]

There are .45 diehards and 9mm converts. Honestly, if you shoot a lot the 9mm is the cheaper way to go. The only reason the .40 got traction is because the FBI converted to it after abandoning the 10mm and many LEO's converted to it from their .357 revolvers. It just makes sense to have a pistol with more rounds and quicker reloads. If your hand can accommodate the fat pistol grip of a double stacked magazine then that's probably the deciding factor. Shooting often and shooting well are the critical factor to me...and that means a cheaper round like the 9mm.

[@hughlamont3696]

What I have learned, all handgun rounds suck equally when compared to any 556.

[@markwestfall2934]

Handgun rounds put holes in people,Rifle rounds put holes through people.

[@robertthomas5906]

Yea, but a real shooter would use s 30-06 or 308. Another guy - those are wussy loads. You need a 50 BMG rifle. Kentucky Ballistics - those are nothing. You need a 4 bore (aka shoulder artillery).

[@JC-fj7oo]

@@robertthomas5906 A real man wouldn't use shoulder artillery, he would pick up an actual civil war canon and hoist it above his head... GROW A PAIR SON!

[@dunerinaz]

There's always a keyboard soldier that pipes in with his 556 compared to pistols 🙄

[@harveywallbanger3123]

100% correct. This is what we learned in the late 80s when guys like Fackler at the FBI finally began studying this stuff properly. Prior to that it was all superstition, mostly defaulting to ".45 is a big ole chunka lead, mmhmm". The reason why 9mm/40S&W/45ACP are all in the same boat now is because we know none of them are particularly lethal compared to rifle rounds that strike the target at supersonic speed (and thus produce supersonic wounding effects). It's also why people who aren't ignorant and lazy don't carry .22, .32 or .380 anymore. You're 100x better off getting a 9mm and getting good at putting 4-5 shots on center mass and hoping one gets the guy in the heart than you are getting a .45ACP (or worse, a .44 Magnum) and deluding yourself into thinking you're going to drop the guy like a bad habit with one shot.

[@Grarder]

This is such a wonderfully nerdy channel. I love it!

[@MarkHoover-dv7mf]

Thanks for the video and I gotta thank midway because the gel was a really nice add to the testing.

[@hendo337]

I can't wait until .400 Legend AR uppers are readily avaliable, common and there are 20-30rd reliable mags. I feel like the fact that it's 10mm+.40s&w case capacity pushing a 215gr load will make for a maniac with a 16-20" barrel that double stacks so you can have big power like a 450 Bushmaster and high capacity mags. 400 Legend could be the best thumper load for an AR15 action at 300yds or less. For further range capability 6ARC or 6.5 Grendel is the move.

[@slanginnervegas]

Have you ever tried 7.62x25 Tokerav vs 9mm on your channel? I'd like to see what it can do vs all of your fun wood, concrete, ballistics gel target tests!

[@slanginnervegas]

It may not be as widely known/used caliber but more people know about it then you might think, and it's not that hard to find. It would still be a fun test to watch!😀

[@bigtechisbigbrother8690]

@@slanginnervegas Tokarev would kill 9mm. It has kinetic energy approaching a .357 Magnum and insane penetration. It's also very loud with big muzzle flash, and a lot of fun to shoot. With HP bullets it would create devastating wounds. But all the weapons that fire it are big, clunky and obsolete. It's not practical to carry at all.

[@slanginnervegas]

@@bigtechisbigbrother8690 I think the TT-33 pistol might be a little clunky but it's definitely not big. You are correct though on the 7.62x25 vs 9mm. I should of said put the7.62x25m vs 10mm, or .357 seeing as it's kind of like the mini magnum 😃 but like I said before it would still be a fun test to see on this channel!

[@mike-ul1fi]

i love my tokarev's, loud, fast and hot, plus cheap ammo

[@timd729]

Tokarevs are thin. Very thin pistol and its concealable. It might look old but a yugo torkarev will hold 10 rounds in the gun and can pierce some body armor. Whats obsolete about this pistol? Its a russian 1911. Get used to the unique ergonomics of it.

[@jimclasquin]

Great analysis, thank you! A final consideration: I get less spread over a full magazine with my .40 than I do with my 9mm, because my Baretta 96 doesn't recoil as much as my Glock.

[@mikea.3547]

I’m not sure how much I learn watching this channel, but I enjoy the delivery and his subtle humor, so a keep watching haha

[@williamkowalchik572]

Those planters in front of a house full of sand might not be a bad idea.

[@claytonwhite3317]

why would the house be full of sand ?

[@joelstein535]

You sure handle that .45 well, all the shots well-grouped & on target!

[@Cr0wmagnum]

Interesting results. No do the same thing with .357 Sig and 10mm

[@jonosterman2878]

Those are what people carry when they’re fuckin dead serious about their self defense 😂 two or four legs.

[@Natedoc808]

@@jonosterman2878 Fuck yeah. G29 here

[@clintbowen1305]

G32, LOVE Sig but damn it's gotten expensive

[@area.man.]

​@@clintbowen1305The one thing I love about 357Sig is that you will always find it on a store shelf.

[@mtnbound2764]

For me this kinda confirms 9mm is the best for a CC handgun. the performance increase from the other two larger rounds is not worth the decrease in round capacity and concealability

[@larryhinze8658]

Not to mention the cost difference.

[@MasqUp]

Great video with great comparisons. Thank you for your time and efforts in putting out this video, informative and entertaining!

[@kaivan350]

All these tests can say whatever they want but if your front door is getting kicked in in the middle of the night and you have all the above 3 handguns I know I’d pick the 45 every time.

[@CajunReaper95]

The beauty of the .40 S&W is it can be fired out of a 10mm handgun however a 10mm cannot be fired out of a .40 S&W handgun because the 10mm is a tad bit longer than a .40 S&W.

[@Rubeless]

Same with 380/9 & 38/357 and other rounds. If you had some knowledge, you’d know 10mm is rarely much more than 40. You can look at plenty of videos on here to fact check

[@willardlentz3044]

@@Rubeless You do realize the factory loads fot 10mm are pug loads compared to the original load right.

[@davidpeavey5079]

@@RubelessSig makes a snappy 10mm rated over 600 ft/lbs of energy

[@bdr32965]

@@willardlentz3044 your standard load off the shelf 10mm rounds are the underwhelming FBI lite loads, but once you start getting into those full power Buffalo Bore and Underwood rounds they hit hard, with some of them getting into the mid to high 700's of ft lbs of energy

[@graybeardsage]

I have an FN510 and I can tell you that Sig 180 grain 10mm makes .40 cal feel like I'm shooting a 9mm. Pretty sure the Sig ammo is full power. .40 felt very tame compared to the Sig 10mm ammo through the same pistol. Every time I shoot 10mm I bring some .40 ammo just to remind me how badass 10mm really is!

[@WVTarheel]

This took me back in time, around 10 or 15 years ago channels doing these tests were crazy popular on youtube. Your answer mirrors what I have told people for years on the 9mm, 40, vs. 45 debate. Shoot what you want they aren't that different. Now, the 10MM, there's a man's caliber, but that's a video for another day

[@Naso03]

Leave the chronograph readings on screen for a bit longer.

[@ericconyers8972]

Summary screen shot would be good too. Ammo caliber, brand, fps, energy, bullet type in a grid with all 3. I saw a dental hygienist named Paul do this a few times.

[@RETRIBUTION_TIME]

There is a pause button

[@DG8RS]

@@RETRIBUTION_TIME ain't technology great? 😜

[@Naso03]

@@RETRIBUTION_TIME You mean I have to do work?!? 🤣😂🤣

[@TheBirdboy84]

why? they're useless.

[@indivisible885]

Today's lesson: whatever you have, it'll probably do the job. Also, shot placement is KEY!

[@tonyl9636]

This tells me the most important thing. No matter which one i buy its still lethal. Seriously though, its nice to see these. I own a 9 but seeing this makes me more open to options from the others.

[@michaelschweimler7292]

All 3 exist because they are proven and effektiv.. All discussions which caliber works better is somhow splitting hairs. It all depends how good you shoot it and the 9 is undeniably the easiest and fastest to shoot controlled. And the plattforms for the 9 generally offer more capacity.... And that is the reason the 9mm rules worldwide for all purposes. The .45 is for sure a good caliber, but outside the US,were people hang on to it and adore it religously - which also is related to the fine 1911 pistol - it is not that relevant . The .40 - outside the US lives only as a niche caliber and is still pretty uncommon in the rest of the world - at least for military and policework. This is from my european point of view..

[@TheXpompier]

Sgt. York has entered the chat. He and his 1911 chambered in .45acp stopped a bayonet attack by 8 'Huns' . With WW III right around the corner, I see something waiting in the wings. 😉

[@montywomack9535]

Every single one of these rounds will without question, will get the job done. Caliber is a preference and that's all, Nothing more however if you're one of those people who are stuck on .40 or .45 just think of all the people who have been unalived by 9mm. But as I said they will all get the job done, and btw HST is an awesome round and my edc round.

[@nunyabisness4300]

Honestly didn’t think the 9mm would get through that 6x6.

[@Rubeless]

Because you have zero experience. Keep listening to the guys at the range that also have zero experience.

[@PROFESSIONALCRASHOUT]

​​@@Rubeless and you leave rude comments on the Internet. Whats wrong with videos testing barriers. It's important information. . Nvm he trolling He gayyyyyy

[@Rubeless]

You edited your reply but still can’t spell. I’m trying to educate you idiots that have zero knowledge and less experience. That’s not trolling

[@nunyabisness4300]

@@Rubeless sorry that I was impressed and that my excitement offended you. Please accept my apology and I will help you get back to the freezer so that you don’t finish melting.

[@BUTTER_BOLT]

good video 👍fun fact: license plates work as a great gel alternative. i have shot all 3 calibers at a stack of 110 linense plates taped together and all 3 rounds stopped randomly between 13 and 15 plates. the 54r i hit it with came out the back sideways and kept on trucking 😆

[@robmarshall11]

I carry both .40 and .45, depending on the season. My 45 is a Kimber Commander with Crimson Trace grips. Super accurate, as you would expect. The 40 is an Sig p320 full size, and while not as accurate as the Kimber, is still pretty damned good. But it’s all about TRAINING CORRECTLY and learning to shoot under stress. My local range has classes for combat shooting, which is very different than target shooting… and a ton more fun.

[@cacanina]

0:22 us viewers watching this video on the toilet 😂

[@alphablackguy3550]

Thats actually me right now 😂

[@Chozart]

wow lol

[@thejoshfargo]

literally haha

[@shaunadair5509]

because of the difference in diameter and the fact that area is a squared function, 8rds of 45 has the same area of hole punched as 10 rounds of 40 cal and 13 rounds of 9mm ( not accounting for bullet expansion)

[@oldowl4290]

I see a lot of glaring comment mistakes. Take notice in the first tests through the wood block he's using standard solid bullets which is why you see the 9mm and .40 going out the back ..simply because they have more speed and inertia. The .45 doesn't because it is about 25% slower by design. In the gel test he switches to hollow-point HSTs and they all stop within about an inch of one another. So given that, the reality is the 9mm is doing close to the same amount of damage in about the same distance, but of course the .40 and .45 are slightly larger / slightly deeper but are negligibly so. And given that, you have to ask is what you lose in accuracy from recoil and carry capacity really worth that small difference? I'd say no. This is also why some people use .22 or .32 HSTs with very high mag capacity. And the reality is, it is best to use hollow point because it will always have more stopping power and is far less likely to go all the way through a target, potentially injuring someone innocent in another room, another house, or across a street. Let's also not forget the .45 was first used in a time long before modern hollow points which is in fact why it was designed to be slower with more stopping power. I think the 9mm hollow-point is now comparable enough as this test shows.

[@MarkAndrewEdwards]

I see the CZ P-07. You have chosen well.

[@RSi-w5t]

Honest outlaw would approve

[@Rubeless]

Don’t think he is that honest anymore.

[@ElecticMonk]

Isn’t that a p09? BB is a huge dude and a p07 would look like a j frame in his hands 😂

[@RSi-w5t]

@@Rubeless what makes you say that

[@RSi-w5t]

@@ElecticMonk P 09 is a striker fired gun

[@screennamenottaken2]

Just ordered a .40 full size M&P Metal. First .40. Full size so still has 15+1 capacity plus better feel/recoil control. Otherwise for smaller size/concealability/capacity I’ll stick with 9mm. If more power is needed there’s always long guns 😏

[@christianmurphy1907]

Thumbs up for the 1 X 1 = 2, T Howard laugh. He's lost his marbles

[@bernieeod57]

I don't know how many of those $1.00+ per round of high end ammo one has stockpiled. In SHTF, when one has to use practice ammo after the exotic round run out, we are back to WW2 ballistics

[@007Chancellor]

Exactly. Always hearing how modern 9mm hollow points are phenomenal....from people who have stockpiled cases of 9mm FMJ for when they really need it.

[@matthewconnor5483]

All that m193 is look pretty good for a rainy day...

[@bernieeod57]

@@matthewconnor5483 We are talking about pistol

[@matthewconnor5483]

@@bernieeod57 things get that bad I'm not rolling around just a handgun.

[@bernieeod57]

@@matthewconnor5483 This subject is about ones handgun. Correct, the purpose of a pistol is to fight your way to the rifle you never have put down in the first place and M-193 will serve you well. The subject here is 9MM vs .45. Modern $1.00+ per round JHP's have turned the 9MM into a viable defense round. Once those run out, we are back to WW2 ballistics

[@bngbraz2]

I may have already said this, but the ballistics would be affected differently on that treated lumber based upon shot placement. The center core of that block would be a lot denser and effect penetration.

[@DinoNucci]

40 is the correct answer vs human sized questions

[@Margalus]

Nope.

[@DinoNucci]

@@Margalus wrong

[@DinoNucci]

@@mikejackson4502 nope

[@DaveL9170]

Exactly.

[@DinoNucci]

@@DaveL9170 correct

[@annihilationfarmohyeah4808]

The CZ shows you have at least one great handgun. The Glocks, not so much.

[@Rubeless]

Glock derangement syndrome

[@ChristopherKnN]

Glock is like vanilla ice cream. It's ok for starters, but it isn't really good till you do the add ons and turn it into a sundae or Banana Split.

[@Vv20vV]

I’ve done some ballistic gel testing using hollow point ammo with all 3 rounds & was most impressed with 40 s&w. But I’d feel confident with any of the 3 as self defense.

[@FargoFX]

If God had meant for us to use 9mm, it would’ve been invented by John Moses Browning.

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

Something, something, .38 ACP predates .45 ACP.

[@MsDevilthorn]

The penetration on the ballistics gel for the 45 was not conclusive. A lot of the energy was absorbed because you will notice in the footage that the whole block of gel moved backwards on impact proving that the energy was absorbed. I suggest that you hold the block down somehow, or block it in the rear.

[@adamkaminski]

Human body aren't made of wood, steel or concrete. Considering the ballistic gel performance, which is closer to human body, .45 wins. You have penetration and a bullet that is almost an inch thicker going through... Larger bullet = larger wound = more blood loss and more chance to hit something important.

[@GLOCKCOPG23]

Even using the least performing bullet weight in 40 (180gr), it is still clearly a better round than either 9 or 45. A 40 in 165 gr would show an even bigger difference with even more superior performance.

[@nickdial8528]

Not correct. Read the 2016 joint agency study on defensive handgun ammunition

[@GLOCKCOPG23]

@@nickdial8528 Yes 165 gr 40’s outperform 180 gr 40’s in initial start up energy and wound channel area across the board. The 165 gr 40’s numbers are bigger and better the 9mm. Sorry but that is mathematical fact. But the guys in lab coats selling ammo say those numbers don’t make a difference. Bullshiz. If they didn’t matter we would all be carrying 380 and 38 special. All one has to do is look at gel tests to see for yourself that there is a difference in wound profile size in favor of the 40 compared with 9 regardless of who says it doesn’t matter… Another fact.

[@TheBirdboy84]

@@GLOCKCOPG23 and the 45, mathmatically and scientifically, has a larger wound than both. (unless somehow the bullet shrinks before hitting the target)

[@lasersight70]

Nice testing! I think they are all good rounds; The reason I carry .40 is because you can typically have a higher ammo capacity than a 45, and .40 hollow points are much more reliable than a 9. (that research was done 10 years ago) so maybe there are 9mm hollow points that are just as reliable these days.

[@Roscoeverdin5469]

357 sig would have been an interesting addition to the mix.

[@rossincognito273]

Glock 31c all day everyday

[@irregularrex4004]

Would've performed roughly the same as these other than the gel test which doesn't really simulate real world performance on a real target.

[@travisweldmaster7815]

I cant even hear d day now and not think about ol sniffy shitting himself

[@TThomas-si7yn]

I only sit through the commercials for channels I support. Otherwise, I'm FForwarding directly through them. Also, the .40 S&W wound-channel in the ballistic gel was corkscrewed. That was cool AF. Imagine that going through an actual body or part. Done, son.

[@nezuminezuminezumi7266]

The simple take home message is that pistols don't actually have terminal performance and the only thing that matters is capacity.

[@TheBirdboy84]

almost, but yeah! id much rather have a 9 in almost any situation, even though the .45 does the most bleeding.

[@Fctsdntcarebouturfeelings]

You've obviously never looked at ballistics charts and seen enough tests.

[@donrichter3523]

@earl-tf4qc, my guess is that YOU haven’t seen the charts and testing that shows that there is little difference with quality HP’s. For me, I prefer easier to shoot with more BBs.

[@hillyseattlenarrowstreets6087]

Use a hanging steel plate and show the amount of swing from impact per caliber. It shows the effect of heavier bullet weight.

[@johndelta00]

Very helpful information for when the hanging steel plates start attacking people.

[@tonyromano6220]

Thank you.

[@tonyromano6220]

@@johndelta00you are on the “list”😂😂😂

[@undisputed6034]

He could hang steel truck nuts and swing those

[@DinoNucci]

No