Toontrack EZdrummer 3 Bandmate - The Killer Feature

[@heartshinemusic]

Tip: use separate files for verse, chorus and bridge etc. to create unique parts for every section of your new song. (Do not import your whole song into bandmate.)

[@spacegoat4008]

Thanks man

[@Havanacuba1985]

Hey thanks I do that with drummer in Logic ,I create an arrangement track & then it creates intro verse chorus etc

[@vovindequasahi]

What they did to the interface is freaking wonderful in itself. The bandmate stuff is mind-boggingly awesome. No more twiddling with midi notes to make drum parts (when jamming out a song with a couple of beers, which means my song never gets finished because I can't be bothered with it) for me...

[@54Offwall]

Heard that

[@slyman2521]

In Studio One, you can actually drag the event directly in Bandmate, there is no need to save the .wav file to your desktop or folder prior to dragging it. Pretty cool.

[@AaronOwenSmith]

i wondered about that cheers

[@thomas911a]

How? I tried about 1000 times and different keyboard modifer keys.. No luck.

[@tom76wawa]

Is anyone try’s it logic pro. Mean just drag and drop.?

[@fumaani]

Reaper users out there. You can hold CTRL+ALT then you can drag it to the bandmate tab directly. Have a good one :)

[@darrensmusicstudio]

@@fumaani Thanks! Very helpful tip.

[@Capt-Cran]

Thank you for the great quick overview ... this is a game changer!!

[@m00se67]

Dont know if it has been mentioned but you can drag the audio straight from the daws timeline in studio one into EZ3 so its even quicker

[@SimonTittley]

Great demo that reminds me of a feature I'd actually forgotten about - my fave 'drums' these days !

[@issiewizzie]

What if you just wanna convert an audio drum sound to midi?

[@matthewblue7839]

Nicely done: bandmate does seem great !

[@joerod0]

Wow I'm sold

[@fretboardfodder1037]

Can you drag into bandmate a drum audio track, and have it converted to a midi version of the audio track?

[@M2Mil7er]

Unfortunately not. It will do its best to match the imported beat with a similar beat in your EZX libraries; the fewer midi files you have in your EZX library, the less likely it will match exactly. It doesn't write parts on the fly. In some DAWs you can convert audio to midi, in Live for example.

[@Muddybagclean]

Can you use this with Ableton Live ? Or at least once you drag and drop the guitar riff into ez drummer the. After you’ve found a grove how to get back into Ableton to finish mixing and adding to the song ?

[@peterhemphill7722]

Do you have to export the instrument part every time? Or can you go directly from the recorded part in logic?

[@alext8218]

I'm sold

[@JajabarBangladesh]

What a beautiful feature❤. Thank you very much

[@sizzlemann]

Is there a way to open the midi pack that the initial midi pattern, that bandmate found, came from? So I could use the other sections (intro, verse, chorus, etc.) that might fit best? If so, how do I find that? Thanks!

[@rrichards31]

That's great but how do you save what you did to listen to it as a wav file? Am I missing something. Just want to save what is added together as one song and be able to play it or send it to someone.

[@Havanacuba1985]

When you drag the drum midi into your daw you could select it & export as .wav I guess

[@peterburke579]

Quick question - have you found any way to chop up the imported audio into sections (like verse and chorus) in the top section? So you could assign different beats? Cause once it’s moved to the lower section you lose the ability to play with the amount knobs and it no longer plays back the audio you imported. Also both times in your video it picked ‘closed hi-hat a’ from pop rock country, when I tried this at home it picked the exact same beat.

[@AaronOwenSmith]

i guess just cut in your daw the part (s) you need and drag in to EZD3

[@peterburke579]

@@AaronOwenSmith yeah that doesn’t really allow you to use the features I mentioned though. You can only hear one beat with the audio you have imported (so no verse and chorus sections) and unless you open a new instance of ezdrummer for each song section, you need to commit your single grove, which removes the amazing feature of the amount knobs. When it comes to ‘sketching’ ideas, it seems like something that would be really useful.

[@chaddonal4331]

@@peterburke579 Maybe we need to do it per song section. i.e. import audio of a verse. Use Bandmate. Export. Then Import audio of a Chorus, repeat process, etc.

[@nedim_guitar]

Oh wow, the Bandmate feature is to me alone definitely worth the upgrade from EZ Drummer 2!

[@chrisbassartist4344]

Can you drop audio straight from daw?

[@somebodyelseuk]

Bandmate... wow! Jamstix has had this kind of feature for over ten years.

[@petergedd9330]

go to the back of my shed!!

[@DaveMcleanJr]

What if I've got a drum track programmed on a limited (but OK) drum machine but want to convert it to EzDrummer and its better sounds? Is that possible?

[@Havanacuba1985]

Play the drum machine into your daw ,convert to midi then change the source of the track is what I’d try to do in Logic Pro

[@pilgrimwilliams245]

Very good vid I subbed thanks

[@MarkRhodesSongs]

I find this maddening for anything that doesn't begin on beat one. If I play something that starts on the and of 3 or 4 in a pickup bar, Bandmate thinks that is beat 1 and starts the measure there, so everything is off.

[@miker5233]

Know if you have ezdrummer 2 already could you still use it or do you have to upgrade

[@Sneakycat1971]

When you buy this do you have to download the entire 15 G library or can you choose what drum sounds you want to install? Is there a demo?

[@mothroyale9076]

Sold 👍

[@thefuzzboxx1018]

Does the audio track have to be played to a click first Or snapped to a grid for band mate to play in time ? thanks

[@jimilove7773]

Thanks!

[@zentatonic]

Are all the velocity and snare/hi hat/kick dials adjustable with automation?

[@shotsi673]

Sort of defeats the purpose if you have to drag and drop a wav file from outside the DAW doesn't it? What would have been better would be to have EZ3 sync with the track already in the DAW?

[@tylowe78]

Yeah. If it has the ability to sync with the tempo of the project why can't it sync with other things of the project.

[@Shelby8371]

Exactly!!!!!!!!!💯💯💯correct

[@Yahoomediaclub]

Bass & Drums sorted…all we need now is a similar upgrade to EzKeys..maybe guitars also like loads of other companies did, maybe not a good as toontrack ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@ultraparadoxical7610]

Production expert: is this significantly different or better than Logic Pro x drummer?

[@chaddonal4331]

Wondering the same. 2 things come to mind in favor of Logic's Drummer: The playing style adjusts automatically to the Song Sections. And you have different drummers (with different styles/feels) to try out. However, in favor of Bandmate, Drummer doesn't choose a style to fit your music automatically. You have to experiment. So, BandMate is a time saver on the front end. Other thoughts?

[@Yahoomediaclub]

Logic has had this for years and years…toontrack have now added their own slant…let’s have Ez Keys now we have the Bass n Drums sorted Toontrack

[@watchtheskies]

nice!!

[@michaelpal7641]

WAIT UP-You can drag a guitar part into EZ Drummer 3??? And it will give you the beat?? Is EZ Drummer a free upgrade from EZD2? I literally am on the edge of my chair over this!

[@jwalker99us]

Great short video! Does Superior Drummer have this same follow the bandmate feature?

[@robmlisanti]

nope

[@jabbaranks2012]

Not yet but i'm pretty sure SD4 will have this.

[@garyshepherd9226]

@@jabbaranks2012 yes - wait - it won't be long before SD4.

[@davidroikit8121]

It would be even better if you could just select a track from a dropdown instead of haing to import/export audio.

[@gigplanet-no]

Why didn't you show Genre and Matching grooves down in the left corner. There are alternatives, also "in the pocket", but you could for example go for an open hi-hat, tom or a different genre. What you showed was just half the story :)

[@petergedd9330]

he didnt show Genre and Matching grooves, because he wanted to have you get your youtube comment out the bag.

[@Frank-in-NY]

I have a question on Bandmate. It looks like a dynamite feature. As a person who enjoys writing and recording their own material, drums have been a real struggle for me, I'm just not good at it. A typical song has an intro, verse, bridge, and ending. My question is will bandmate work through the entire song in one shot, or must you break down sections separately, and construct the entire song in your DAW? Good job on the overview of this.

[@PhiLikeFlying]

Haha, it wont be that good. Looks like its a section at a time! If it did do that, then that would be perfect for me. A lot of my songs have changing sections of timing and tempo, and if EZ3 could adapt to that then wow! i'd be in heaven :)

[@Frank-in-NY]

@@PhiLikeFlying Yup...That makes sense to me. Reason I'm asking these dumb questions, I just got burned on Roland's Cloud Software TR-707. I'm and old timer that had a TR-707, and though I suck at drums, I could create useable beats for my tunes, and sequence them. It had a nice workflow, logical. Sadly, it died on me a few years back. The software version of it looks and sounds the same, very pretty, but that's it. I could create patterns, but sequence them? I couldn't even paste a pattern into my DAW. Bottom line, I flushed $149. Thanks for the insight, it may still be a good solution for me. 😄

[@PhiLikeFlying]

@@Frank-in-NY I've always use EZ2 for everything, but i hated it when i had dive deep into editing and adjust the singles note beats to work with my rhythm - took way too long and then i get bored!..lol I'm tempted to upgrade to EZ3 to see how Bandmate will help reduce the editing, and i think you would also benefit too - some editing will be required i suspect depending the the type of song your doing, but yeah, i'd say go for it :)

[@Frank-in-NY]

@@PhiLikeFlying Hey Thanks Phil. I mean when I was using the TR-707, I was basically breaking apart my song, doing the parts in sections, so I guess this is pretty much the same. I wonder, do they ever have sales?

[@PhiLikeFlying]

@@Frank-in-NY Yeah i think its pretty much the same but probably better. Sales usually around summertime i think?

[@vewilli]

👍🏻👏🏻🙏🏻

[@CBDM777]

Love it, a little Radiohead ish

[@edmo-l4d]

More cowbell!

[@letterli]

two letters....: W O W !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@thefray123]

Thats 3?

[@qddk9545]

@@thefray123 No, it is 2 letters: W and O. W is just repeated.

[@Steadybeheady]

@@qddk9545 So 2 unique letters.. otherwise 3 letters.

[@tommylockett99]

So I bought EZ drummer 3 and this bandmate works for pop but jazz, forget it, I have a swing bass line and every. the time I drop it into the bandmate it comes up with a country groove...yee ha

[@sofarsogod]

Ez drummer is the shit lml

[@RhodesKing-q4r]

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[@thespotlights9278]

But, it's just an existing loop.... not like it made the beat from scratch to fit the guitar part. So if you play generic chords itll work fine, but if you play stuff that is more groove oriented, you'll still get just a generic drum beat....... you still need to program the actual drum beat

[@macbeth642]

No, theres an option for the AI to make the groove. Its not “just loops” . You can pick either from loops or the AI created version.

[@thespotlights9278]

@@macbeth642 Do you have a sample of this?

[@macbeth642]

@@thespotlights9278 Yes, on youtube search for toontracks ''bandmate'' video where toontrack officially show the feature and they show this option. You can pick option ''1'' which is the program looking for a loop to fit your riff or option ''2'' which will be the AI giving you its opinion on what the groove should be based on analyzing the sound file you inoutted.

[@AlexWallaceAudio]

So it's the 'Follow' function that Logic has had for a while now :)

[@darklight4815]

This is a pretty big deal as far as uniqueness and humanizing the drums imo...I need to upgrade to 3

[@sgunmusic]

thank you , finally fired our drummer

[@Bembol01]

I thought you were Jarvis lol

[@JimsMusicJourney]

I bought it recently and it does not work for metal at all. I even used DI signal. Not even close. Total waste of money.

[@pikeysrock]

To me it seems like a more time consuming answer to Logic/GarageBand and it's smart drummer follow function.

[@DobbinZachary-m3r]

Hall John Perez Anthony Davis Charles

[@jann_rygh]

cool Feature but imho their ded. midipacks are just another level - bandmate is cool for beginners who dont know what drums are or if drums would go with their playing...but for real tracks....idk...its too basic and the add funtions are too computish. if you own midi packs you won't need anything else...ever 🙏🏼

[@davidasher22]

Kyle is not impressed..

[@davidsgardell]

😂 😂

[@davidasher22]

@@davidsgardell glad someone got it..

[@davidsgardell]

@@davidasher22 Haha cracked me up! He was fired when Anders arrived btw

[@richardsanders2271]

Obviously taken from Logic Pro X drummer function

[@papa.alfredo]

I am sorry but it was not on time! The drums are a bit ahead! When you loaded then it was in perfect tempo!

[@gyur6]

wow this sounds like crap - tutorial is good tho

[@jonljacobi]

Like Logic's drummer.

[@issiewizzie]

Even do I have EZD 3 I was thinking this is like Logic drummer

[@maninhat77]

Logic Drummer is still better in my opinion - you don’t have to drag anything, you can change the follow up track on the fly, beat changes instantly. But I’m glad some one is finally bringing this functionality to other DAWs

[@jonljacobi]

@@maninhat77 Me too, even though the only AI is searching the database. I generally can come up with my own beats, but alternate ideas can shake me out of sameness.

[@aykswodic9653]

alles das gleiche .. was soll daran besonderes sein?