Top 05 Judo throws/Takedowns for street self defense

[@SoldierDrew]

I had a close friend in U.S. Army, he was in 5th Group S.F., and he was son of Albanian immigrants with a background as Army wrestling champion & a Judoka. He was a smaller guy but extremely feared in hand to hand combat. I seen him in street fight, even once against a knifer, he easily dominated every attacker even though they were much bigger men. When he took them down he'd then use the pavement to bash their face a few times rather than injuring his hands using punches like mma ground & pound. Or he'd disable their shoulder. Judo is best single unarmed combat art but a wrestler whose a Judoka is a beast.

[@Chadi]

Agreed 100%

[@claesandersson5300]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 great video chadi.. And a hooge honor😉

[@Chadi]

If you understood the subtle reference then we can be best friends 😉

[@Adil-tb8xo]

it's a huge honour for me to share this video. - love what you did there

[@brentzur]

Sasae tsuri komi ashi (Foot stop) and Tani Otoshi are good for self-defense. Also, Tai Otoshi from a 2on1 (Russain Tie). Osoto gari and De Ashi are my favorite.

[@Chadi]

Also yes

[@halilzelenka5813]

This is so good because the three premises laid out at the beginning are completely in the spirit of Judo

[@gerardhart9052]

I love the makikomi throws myself and osoto gari with a close line incorporated. The takedowns are super fast require little skill and can be completely controlled so damage can be variable depending on situation.

[@SamuelZamora]

Thanks for this. Makes a lot of sense

[@DocLeon77]

Huge honor for me guys...anytime I hear "huge honor" I hear it in Bernardo's voice 🥋😂

[@Chadi]

Not many understood the reference, good job

[@richardgomez1151]

Great channel

[@wendellignatin1228]

Judo is great for the street. Can you imagine getting dropped like on hard concrete? Can you say ouch?

[@wendellignatin1228]

When a takedown happens on the mat it is okay. On concrete, you would make someone a quadriplegic. lol

[@stenfinnolivecrona8007]

I've used throws to quickly control people in the context of private security work many times. I once tried to work out which throws I used most and was surprised at how many different throwing techniques I utilized. The more chaotic situations in real life gave me opportunities to execute throws that I couldn't find entries for in randori in the dojo. From a safety point of view, controlling one of my opponents' arms and maintaining my posture stopped the opponents' heads from hitting the concrete so any injuries were pretty minor. A quickly executed tai otoshi or a short, choppy o soto gari seem to take the fight out of people pretty reliably if you're looking for a couple of favourites.

[@Ghiuvhhj]

great vid!

[@abstractbio]

Thank you for the vid. Last month I used judo to defend myself: someone tried to rob me with a fake gun, situation was so that we ended very close to each other, noticed the gun was fake as I dominated his hand, guy tried to run away so I pushed him (not too hard) and used his counter movement for a Koshi guruma and landed in top of him and kept him on the ground with a Kesa gatame until police arrived. It wasn't even scary it was just muscle memory firing in that moment, I just felt that particular throw was what would take the bad guy down. As soon as he fell to the pavement all of fighting will was gone.

[@Chadi]

Wow you're a hero, stay safe brother, thank you for sharing

[@abstractbio]

@@Chadi you're the real hero with all your research. Thank you for your work

[@Chadi]

@@abstractbio 🙇🏻‍♂️

[@byron3453]

I love watching those old videos of Kano

[@rustyshackleford735]

Wrestlers sometimes due open shots, but in most cases they do set up the ankle pick in much the same way the judoka does.

[@rvfree1]

yes...see Cael Sanderson. Maybe greatest wrestler in American history. 90% he was attached. Yet, if you are facing a better striker, like a trained boxer, you should shot from the open.

[@mrdsbp]

Very interesting topic. A lot experts, without or without quotes, have weighed in on this. Glad that Chadi decided to offer up a judo perspective. So kudo's and thanks for that! My question is in which scenario we are - location, type of fighter, his/her intention. That would inform the choice of throw, as well as execution. Grabbing uke's face in o soto and driving straight down produces markedly different results from throwing your arm across uke's chest and driving out to uke's back. It would depend on the circumstances which option is a proportional, commensurate response. Maybe Chadi will explore kumi kata in street fights and how that changes the fight. Also: in what street scenario could standing chokes, standing arm/wrist locks and leg locks be of use? In any case, thanks for the video, and fight the good fight.

[@Chadi]

Thank you I'll adress this in another video

[@stan2376]

hi chadi, i know that the point of the video was more about self defence without hurting your opponent at all and having control over the situation, but if the situation was more severe where you were being attacked by a drugged up person and lets say that the law is more flexible. would you still use these techniques or would you blast him with one of your tokui waza?

[@Chadi]

I would definitely blast them, if your life is on the line all bets are off and the law will understand your reaction

[@eagletsar5700]

What are some of the top techniques you would use in that situation?

[@eagletsar5700]

@@Chadi Hey, Chadi. Which techniques would you personally use to blast someone in that situation?

[@peanutbutler3078]

Deashi harai is my tokui waza its mastery lies in practice and visualisation. I was wondering if there is anyway for you to talk about hiza guruma self defense or not it's my second favourite technique. Nice video as always What's your tokui waza?

[@Chadi]

If you can pull off a Muneta Hiza guruma in randori and street fights then that's awesome, my tokui waza is a tie between uchi mata and okuri ashi harai.

[@nikolaosmandamandiotis8970]

If I may share my opinion you have a nice tokui waza, all the set of moves deashi harai, sasae, occuri, hiza guruma are really low risk high reward techniques if you excel at them you can be really successful in the street against anyone keep training on them to the fullest.

[@peanutbutler3078]

@@nikolaosmandamandiotis8970 Is that a brother from another mat I see?

[@mcornielle]

HI Chadi, i think you could like the tani otoshi for this purposes as well but not the classical judo version, eli knigt and ryan hoover have a video on it i like it cuz it allows you not to go to the ground yet controlling the person. its called Street-Based Takedown Considerations with Eli Knight and Ryan Hoover . Great video as usual.

[@Chadi]

I saw it! That's actually a great suggestion, thank you

[@nikolaosmandamandiotis8970]

I will argue with you for 3 out of five throws! 1 ankle pick, it's kinda dangerous for the street first because of what you said about kicks its not so wise to kneel in front of your opponent and you don't really control the position he is going to fall. Second is kouchi gari, you see you will actually throw your opponent in guard or half guard and you are in danger of getting your back taken because atleast your lower body turns and a smart opponent can use the momentum to turn you. Last is the osoto Gari which is all about kusushi and upper body strength , while used perfectly it gets you to kesa gatame or side mount for sure it's dangerous cause of giving the back or getting countered as you turn your whole body and you end up in one foot. In the place of those 3 I would put kosoto gake for sure as it's straight forward or a little side technique it gets you to half guard or side mount and it's a low risk high reward controlling the upper body and one or 2 foot with a sankaku. Tawara gaeshi gets you streight into a guillotine tate siho and again you don't risk much, an opponent can just fall into you it depends on if you got both arms one arm or the head, you can also set it up with a clinch or double lapel pull its really controllable as well, the only downfall is the ground . The third sould be obi tori gaeshi, front uchi mata, yagura nage with double underhooks, same thinking here with morote gari . Tomoe nage is cool, but you don't know what the ground will be and you can get countered or end up on bottom which is a bad situation for the street maybe if you are really sure of your guard or half guard or that you won't get face kicked, but again all sutemi waza is risky. I would mostly use kibisu gaeshi, osoto Gari , kouchi gari and tomoe as followup techniques to secure the fall if my first one didn't work. I would like to hear your opinion! For the sake of argument.

[@Chadi]

I see your point but ankle pick i specifically said it should come from kuzushi or a ko soto feint not dive directly, ko soto gake is a great technique i agree, but tawara and obi tori are extremely dangerous on asphalt, and they can get you in trouble

[@nikolaosmandamandiotis8970]

@@Chadi Well yes but kibisu even with good kusushi you don't control the left leg or the hands. I have used tawara in concrete many times and you really control the pace of the fall and if you want you can finish the fight very fast or chose your position after it , try out and hikkikomi gaeshi you show that you control the fight all the time. As for front uchi mata I tried it a bit in wrestling and I see it working without risk except the risk of your opponent hitting the pavement but you can actually keep his head safe by keeping it away with your hands, I haven't done it on the street but from my experience it's safe , it also have many kuzure to do it in occasions It's not my tokui waza really kosoto gake, koshi guruma and tomoe nage is , another honorable mention koshi guruma to straight kesa gatame!

[@Chadi]

@@nikolaosmandamandiotis8970 yes koshi guruma to kesa gatame is a killer

[@pelejahosoba5280]

@@nikolaosmandamandiotis8970 uchi mate is a killer bro,trust me,morote seio nage is sure death, and osoto gari would make him unconscious, I don't know about u,but am an extremely brute force judoka, I always throw to damage even on d mat,during nage waza and randori, I had evil intentions

[@nikolaosmandamandiotis8970]

@@pelejahosoba5280 Hehe OK man sure you can throw to kill in the street, what we argue here is 1st with which technique you have more control over your opponent and can be done safely so you don't end up in jail,2nd what technique have less risk for you due to self defence situations being chaotic, 3rd which technique can be done faster without needing too much setting up, 4rth what position you will end up from the technique if you also need to fall to the ground, these variables are important if you just want to kill get a gun (just kidding)

[@zackarate]

Most of these are not self-defense techniques, these are competition movements even how you are explaining them....., but love the content on jujitsu and judo.

[@michaelbrown655]

I think it's best to use throws that let you stay on your feet, then you can run away, or move for a pin if you want.

[@marrakechsportracer4170]

Chadi's if you can,Find some stuff's on Mr. Karl Gotch.He was Amazing,.

[@Chadi]

I will talk about both frank and karl

[@marrakechsportracer4170]

@@Chadi Was very lucky in my life too have met Karl and Ms.Istaz in Tampa around 2003-2004.Began pro wrestling training in 2002,through contact Joe sims i was able too spend time with Karl,About 1 week and 1 half week.Conditioning only.I've only posted 1 of my matches on my page because well.Kayfaybe.Jake Shannon has very good interview with Karl I've heard he posted this on youtube.

[@chuckmartin935]

Right on!-Situatnl Awareness. Say u drop guy and submit-looks cool, But then his buddy runs kicks u in head OR hit u in head w brick. WHO WINS? Mma and dojo mat not same as street.

[@عبدالعظيما-ض3ك]

Te guruma without slam

[@Chadi]

Yes great choice too

[@pelejahosoba5280]

That's bullshit bro,slam him and make him cry,and I don't believe u

[@ejwalsh877]

Thank You for creating this video, and focusing on the topic of Judo as it pertains to a physical confrontation. If the first of the set of criterion is not to harm the attacker, each technique listed has an effect of bringing the back of uke's head down to the ground at a high velocity. An extremely dangerous prospect to an individual who is not trained in ukemi. I humbly suggest a well executed forward throw followed by a transition to katame waza would best suit the purpose.

[@andreneto7898]

i agree

[@rvfree1]

Good list. I love to see a video on just how a judoka gets his grip when someone is punching him. In most of the non-wrestling throws, there is an assumption that you can us a more traditional grip to execute the throw when strikes are involved. You know, in my opinion, there are only two places to be as a grappler against strikes...all the way in...or all the way out. In between gets you KOed. The what are the most efficient throws when you are all of the way in? There would be a slightly different list, but it would meet your criteria. The Gracie's did this experiment with many hours in the laboratory(real fights). What did they come up with? Why didn't they choose certain ones?

[@Chadi]

Just watch Ronda how she got her grips

[@rvfree1]

@@Chadi ​Chadi Ronda uses all wrestling ties. via her wrestling coaches and Hayastan. Most judokas will not seek out wrestling expertise. Also, her boxing training is a tremendous help. When you learn counters in boxing, you are secretly learning how to enter in the clinch (shhh...it's a secret)

[@Chadi]

@@rvfree1 but the finish is judo, even in kata there underhook and overhook, it doesn't take a genius to know that i need to clinch without the gi

[@rvfree1]

@@Chadi Right, Sir!

[@maofas]

Kouchi for sure, the pull them into it version as well as the driving version with arm entanglement of the leg that is illegal now. BUT, where is sasae? You can lay them down gently (or slam them with it like Muneta). Personally I think footsweeps take more skill as you have to react to what they do, versus sasae where you create the timing yourself.

[@Chadi]

There's many honourable mentions like sasae and ko soto gari but these are the ones i like

[@dragondesoupe5422]

Morote Gari is very risky against opponents who cannot fall correctly. The back of the opponent's head might me hurt easily...and this is not too suitable to spare your opponent.

[@Fyrverk]

Nice

[@henrikg1388]

I would say that koshi guruma and harai goshi are pretty basic throws that you can execute standing up and controlling your opponents arm, preventing his head from hitting the pavement. At least much more so than o-soto-gari, ko-uchi-gari or morote gari. Unless you are up against a wrestler of course, but then all bets are off. ;)

[@Chadi]

Hip tosses can hurt a lot without the head hitting the pavement

[@henrikg1388]

@@Chadi Yes, but not lethal, and within the parameters of self-defense in almost any country. That was my point.

[@henrikg1388]

@@Chadi I would like to clarify that every throw were someone falls backwards is guaranteed to make him hit the ground with the back of his head, unless he is very well trained in any form of grappling. When the opponent falls forward, that is not often the case, and especially not if you control the throw and remain standing. It's a horrible experience for the guy being thrown. He will get stunned and maybe break a few ribs. That is the point I was trying to make. Sorry for not remembering all the Judo terms to describe what I mean.

[@Chadi]

@@henrikg1388 they're all dangerous for sure, the reason it's instant ippon in competition it's because in the old days people lost due to loss of consciousness or concussions (Nakamura and Tanabe) it makes sense that the match should end instantly but in this video i chose in my opinion those that do the least damage.

[@henrikg1388]

@@Chadi Well, I know, and that is why I like the Judo Ippon rule. I guess we just have to agree to disagree which throws are most harmful. ;)

[@Sira628]

what about karate throws? Are the same techniques as you mention ? Are they useful for self defence as judo ? i mean are the karate throws the self defensive judo throws?

[@Chadi]

Of course they work

[@Sira628]

@@Chadi they work but i meant that if you want to learn self-defence throws should you learn the karate throws only? Or to learn wrestling or judo?

[@maofas]

Most Karate throws are just Judo throws done poorly. They work in the context of two people moving around light on their feet trying to punch and kick, but as soon as you face someone planted and ready to wrestle they don't work. You will see, for example, even really good karateka doing osoto with too much space between their hip and the opponent, leaving their foot on the floor and bending the opponent over the leg rather than reaping (making it very strength dependent if you don't catch them light and bouncey). I am not hating on Karate, mind you. I have a shodan in Judo, but have done way, way more Karate.

[@Sira628]

@@maofas i understand...my question is why they chose those specific techniques and not others throws.was due to self defence reasons or because they were more easy to execute?

[@maofas]

@@Sira628 I don't have a definitive answer. I think a lot of it comes down to either what throws from traditional Okinawan wrestling were put in traditional kata and semi-passed down vs. what your specific instructor knew and taught. So many of the important Japanese instructors had Judo backgrounds and surely taught some basic throws. I don't think anyone in the old days sat down with a huge list of throwing techniques trying to figure out the easiest and most effective for karate, however.

[@DPham1]

Hehe nice reference to Bernardo

[@Chadi]

🤙🏻

[@MrWhatevertoday]

Feels backwards to have to worry about your attacker's safety... *laughs in American*

[@staylor1552]

Im about to start judo for self defense not sport..should i focus on the basics or go all in..the instructor i think is about the sport aspect of the art..

[@Chadi]

Sports or self defense, a good instructor will teach you the basics regardless. All you need is a good school

[@counterkidnapping1737]

You need the basic first. Without the basic you know nothing

[@MaadLuck]

@@counterkidnapping1737 they most likely won't teach any leg takedowns

[@tribalman9668]

Even where I live where stand your ground doctrine applies to self defense situations, you are going to be in a serious legal nightmare if you use force not proportional with the threat you are facing....

[@Chadi]

100%

[@trevor75203]

If a someone uses a knife on me and I break their arm, is that ok 🤔

[@tribalman9668]

@@trevor75203 a knife is a lethal force, don’t break the arm, since he can have something in the other hand and while you concentrate on the knife he could be emptying out a 10 round 9mm magazine on you.. a knife go for the neck I would say...but no knife, no weapons, don’t break anything much less go for the neck

[@Sira628]

uchi mata?

[@Chadi]

It can paralyze someone or severely injure the brain

[@Sira628]

@@Chadi yes forgot not to damage the attacker

[@counterkidnapping1737]

Osoto Gari

[@NickKano11]

Osoto Gari is the third leading death in Japan after COVID and Godzilla.

[@feoded4823]

Can i stand up after i throw xD

[@pelejahosoba5280]

Chadi let me tell u something, when s judoka is in rage and fighting on the streets he doesn't need timing for the de ashi/ko,the spirit and anger of judo would just take over the scenario, I used de ashi/sasae twice in a street fight but never in randori or even nage waza it just happened(spirit) 2nd u can't determine 4 a judoka d best throws 4 self defense, as I said spirit of judo and anger would influence the persons cognitive "I see judo as an entity/spirit" and u don't need to advice judoka on how not to use much force or diplomatic when fighting it mostly depends on the scenario, but a judoka would still damage badly his opponent when fighting, don't 4get adrenaline and excess randori would be at work ,u not doing much good saying this nice philosophy to judoka's, Lastly chadi osoto gari is a killer throw, even worse than seio nage,and most judoka in streets fight turn it to osoto makikomi due to anger,uchi mata is still the worse though, I have used judo dozens of times on d street and self defense also

[@Chadi]

Good point! I did not see it this way

[@PATEL.072]

👌🏻👌🏻

[@Chadi]

🤙🏻

[@israelcanada8969]

Bro, I seriously stop watching yoir channel!!

[@Chadi]

why

[@israelcanada8969]

@@Chadi because your channel is so good!! ❤️ J'adore votre chaine 🥋