I was surprised to see Maw of Lorkhaj here. I've played ESO for over 6 Years with 10K+ hours played and basically cleared every endgame content in the game with some score records. With today's survivability, damage output and the ability to skip a lot of mechanics, a lot of people don't have any idea of how hard Rhakkat, or even Twins were back on release. A lot of players don't even know what Lunar Phase looks like because the boss dies way before it. It's sad to see how ESO has lost its difficulty over the years with new broken sets/classes and Balance issues. Although, Rhakkat deserves a mentioning, i do think Z'maja from Cloudrest, fought with all her 3 Shadows (aka vCR+3 or vCRHardMode) is the hardest and mechanically challenging fight in ESO.
@Cynidecia Жыл бұрын
there were NO instances in the classic Everquest timeline (Launch-Kunark-Velious) so all bosses were world bosses. they all had around 1 week respawn timers. It sounds like a crazy time.
@danielpruett8637 Жыл бұрын
It was the best of times. I remember scrambling to get a raid together to kill Naggy because he popped while I was soloing sonic bats on my monk. Pure anarchy.
@seanmoore1601 Жыл бұрын
Dad told me a story about an old EverQuest raid years ago. My uncle played in a top raid guild Clan Ta Varen and apparently there was a boss soo difficult that even a GM/Dev had trouble killing it. It took a heal cycle of some of the best Terris Thule clerics including my uncle, and the best raiders at the time to defeat it. Devs ultimately had to nerf the mob and gave the win to CTV which angered and made other guilds confused.
@garrett3117 Жыл бұрын
The Sleeper? Aka Kerafyrm. In Sleeper's Tomb, not supposed to be killable, was part of the Lore but on a PVP Zek server 2 guilds & I imagine all that could zone in did as well. They managed to almost kill him using walls to avoid AEs, casters just summoned pets from what I understand. Iirc he's basically MR aside from some spells like Lifetaps, & things like Mana Burn AA, etc. So GM despawned him due to their clever positioning allowing safety from much of the threat to melee. Over 500 people. So they agreed they'd not use the environment like that, & the GM restored the spawn - story goes something like clerics rez sticking people repeatedly, or low mana, low % xp rezzing people over the fight some lost lvls over the entire ordeal. Something like this, I believe he was also downed again post PoP, murky on those details, however. Impressive even in that era. Rip Warder loot table either way, esp p99, as it never goes past Velious progession. They could be restored via GM event or something one day I suppose, cheers.
@Greynth Жыл бұрын
As a longtime on/off EQ player, I was very pleasantly surprised that you mentioned Tunat from GoD as the guild killer (the entire expansion was honestly, original GoD/OoW era was the initial mass exodus from the game to WoW). Have seen too many similar videos referencing the legendary server-wide kill of Kerafrym the Sleeper. While a cool note in history in its own right, the sleeper was never originally meant to be awoken. The devs actually force-wiped all of the players IN REAL TIME the first time they almost killed the Sleeper. Players were so fucking mad they couldn’t see straight. Props to the old devs for backing off and listening to their player base. The Sleeper was awoken, and he flew all across the actual in-game world and murdered thousands of NPCs spitting maniacal RP text in global chat. Conversely, Tunat was literally fucking impossible. The entire Gates expansion was the literal progenitor of the phrase “overturned”. We literally couldn’t kill shit. To paint the picture, Alex Afrasiabi (yes, same dude in WoW history/development), was the head of the legendary EQ guild, Fires of Heaven. He played a Wood Elf warrior named Furor Dragonslayer. He made a post directly to the EQ devs threatening to quit and take his entire guild to WoW if they didn’t fix Gates lmao. Then he became a their senior creative director MMORPGs and the internet were wild back then man
@georgeDeming Жыл бұрын
lol when they finaly killed the sleeper didnt it actually drop nothing?
@Greynth Жыл бұрын
@@georgeDeming yes it didn’t drop anything. Literally the only thing killing the sleeper does is give flex points to the guild that does it on the latest progression servers and cuck EVERYBODY out of other potential loot. For those who don’t know, in order to attack the sleeper the guild must kill the 4 Warders (4 dragon raid bosses) in each corner of the sleeper’s antechamber to unlock his protective barrier. The warders drop once in a server lifetime loot that fetch TONS of ingame currency. Once the sleeper is awoken, the warders no longer spawn and that loot is basically lost forever except for those lucky individuals who looted it first or if you’re lucky in a gambling mechanic introduced WAY later like the WoW black market
@ericadams973 Жыл бұрын
I seem t o remember an in game event when Kerafym was killed on the server however and he went stampeding through Velious in some sort of revenge.
@Greynth Жыл бұрын
@@ericadams973 yeah it was on the Rallos Zek server. Kera was cleared and he went around murdering NPCs
@Molitoth Жыл бұрын
Tunat was.... yeah. The entire GoD expansion took major skill, which is why I loved it. It def weeded out the casuals. That expansion took a lot of flak, but I thought it was amazing at the time. OOW was great too. Very fun raids with different mechanics. Remember Hanvar where he would AE drunk everyone? Get to leveling that alcohol tolerance!
@nathan9627 Жыл бұрын
we're just gonna ignore brelshaza fom lost ark huh? brutal
@mohammedbilaluddin2630 Жыл бұрын
Maybe when inferno brel hits KR next month
@Cynic3018 Жыл бұрын
I think cloudrest veteran is just way harder than maw of lorkhaj in general
@Cynic3018 Жыл бұрын
I think the twins in maw of lorkhaj was alot harder than the last boss. Would be a mess if people weren't listening and doing mechanics
@Weeboslav6 ай бұрын
As someone who has like 10k+ hours in Lineage 2,I can tell you why it Epic Bosses are so difficult. First of all,getting even decent gear is pain in a nut sack(imagine doing mythic raid in WoW in questing gear,that's L2 life for you),second you need to do difficult tune up quests that you'll have to do every time you wanna fight that boss(and in some cases,you need to do attunement quest twice for a single boss fight,and yes,everyone in your group has to do it). Wipe is not an option as there are no second chances. Third,epic bosses drop a piece of epic jewelry that everyone wanna get,so there's a lot of PvP to get to the boss and only top clans can get it(boss don't have instance zone) Forth and final,bosses may be easy mechanically,but they are hitting like a truck,easily one shoting non tanks(and tanks don't fare much better).
@mcfarvo Жыл бұрын
Update: in Classic WotLK, the race through Ulduar did see top guilds wiping at times, including Algalon, so even with all the knowledge, guides, practice (pservers and PTR), it does seem that Ulduar is a little step up for Classic raids.
@MetaGoblin Жыл бұрын
it was still cleared in just over an hour though 😂
@johnwarner4178 Жыл бұрын
I think the winning guild didn’t wipe at all, and others had 1-2 wipes let’s not act like they had 50 pull bosses
@Sasquatch-nx9tg Жыл бұрын
They also practiced on PTR for days on end. It’s not like they walked in there and slapped Algalon without facing him just days/weeks before
@kr1me2000 Жыл бұрын
#1 is EASILY Morshabaal from the game tibia...... 1 mistake and everyone dies, 1 person attack at the wrong time, everyone dies. Also in Tibia dying on high level mean you lose 2+ levels.
@aske7220 Жыл бұрын
I would say the hardest boss even made in an MMO who was not terribly tunned of bugged is Dragon Song Reprise (Ultimate) in FF14. He was not bugged, perfecly tunned, player had the same gear during the whole progress (full BiS from the start), and the class where also very well tunned. So the only thing slowing players where the actual boss's mechanics. It took 7 days for it to die, with hundreds of players going full hardcore 16h a day (not sure how much, the world first team wasn't letting out any data), but we know that among the top 10, people took around 1000 pulls on average.
@brianhorton6676 Жыл бұрын
Everquest raids were called raids. Instanced raid content wasn't added till the 6th or 7th expansion. You'd talk to an npc to be ported into the raid expedition but it was still called a raid.
@marcwirth5769 Жыл бұрын
Is the video about the first mmo raid out? Thanks MetaGoblin for the hardwork, you and Wille always manage to keep me engaged!
@MetaGoblin Жыл бұрын
Will probably work on it this week 👌
@galath9242 Жыл бұрын
I actually pugged Dhuum cm in gw2. Spent around a month just looking for a squad and a week trying to clear it because the same dumbasses kept being destroyed by echo
@longboi3426 Жыл бұрын
Join raid academy hombre. Good place to find a raid group and the PUGs posted there are way better than the LFG lol
@blondeguy570611 ай бұрын
The Oblivion music in the background is clutch
@Rommel12 Жыл бұрын
Surprised not to see original Kael'Thas here as he lasted over 4 months as I recall.
@drath16 Жыл бұрын
I like the direction you’re taking your channel man. Keep it up
@dysenteryking9034 Жыл бұрын
WoD Archimonde was by far the hardest boss ever released in WoW, far harder than Garrosh or KJ. If the best raiders in the world were to be flung back to that boss with the appropriate power level, but the modern restrictions on addons, I'm not even sure they could kill him.
@kolecava Жыл бұрын
They would. Each time people say X was hard back in the day, people forget that players these days are better and have the knowledge to kill it again.
@Dmidnightmachine Жыл бұрын
Legion and the Hibernia dragon circa 2002 were top difficulty in Dark Age of Camelot
@tylersproul83433 ай бұрын
no oldschool runescape inferno challenge is crazy
@tellusrs77733 ай бұрын
a solo challenge is nothing compared to raid bosses my guy, wiping 300+ times with a raid of 20 players having different roles and coordinating mechanics is on a wayyyyyy different level
@COREcasual11 ай бұрын
Rip wildstar. It was so fun... until the endgame lol. I just didn't have time to commit to that kind of raiding.
@patg14 Жыл бұрын
Wildstar was epic. Datascape is the most fun raid I've ever done.
@ahiwalter9153 Жыл бұрын
wild star was amazing, the only problem is they listened to a bunch of people who have no idea about the logistics of running a game dev company with a live service I.E. gamers…
@donaldpeace5 ай бұрын
The hardest pve anything I ever had to learn and succeed at was MC hard mode in Tera Online back in the day. That shit literally broke people. They tried to recreate the madness years later with Abscess Hard Mode but it didn't really even compare. And I have player every raid tier and difficulty of wow history and almost every mmo to date that had any real traction.
@jari2018 Жыл бұрын
Hardest Boss : when a novice player meets Godlike Xan in Unreal Tournament 0-30 to the boss -In year 1999
@lokmanaydn608010 ай бұрын
you didnt include it but FFXIV Ultimate raids are, by far the hardest raids of all time
@Tiduspeco Жыл бұрын
Brelshaza from Lost Ark easily deserves the #1 spot in this video.
@KuRoSaKiii11 ай бұрын
The raid that was cleared in less than 2 days for all 6 gates when it was released? Sure! The raid that is now easier than kakul? Sure! The raid that is so pathetically easy because it's always locked behind health bars? Sure! Lost ark is one of the easiest MMOs I have ever played... You can literally master a raid after clearing it once and memorize the HP gated mechanics that never changes 😂😂😂😂
@Twizzler300Ай бұрын
Brother... there are raids in ESO (perfected trio) that have been out for almost 10 years, and MAYBE 5% of the playerbase have completed. Different games, sure sure. Point stands. People want to win stuff...
@tellusrs7773Ай бұрын
actually insane you even bother putting that into a top 10 hardest raid boss list when there have been bosses that have been considered mathematically possible and have taken hundreds of wipes over a week+ until nerfs and even then took more wipes to clear, a boss like that from lost ark does not compare
@jaredtandle2596 Жыл бұрын
Final fantasy does have a history of fuck this guy bosses. In 9 it was some sphere, in 10 it was everything in the beast master minigame, until you beat them then it was the final special creation.. I think even Kingdom Hearts had one. Sephiroth was a pain in the ass in that game for me.
@ChuckUFarley905 ай бұрын
Nothing about Keraphim the Sleeper?
@tristansmeets6086 Жыл бұрын
no uu'nat on here from bfa?
@maestrrsantarael65906 ай бұрын
2023 years Algalon Dude pls…
@FragUnicorn Жыл бұрын
WHAT WAS THE FIRST RAID?!? Where's the video!?
@Duckman8213Ай бұрын
Omega Protocol (Ultimate) FF14
@zanetti8142 Жыл бұрын
”Algalon one of the hardest boss ever” - Dead within 2 hrs of Ulduar release
@MetaGoblin Жыл бұрын
I was talking about original wotlk in this video.
@oskarhjerpe667 Жыл бұрын
raid and dungen is the same. it is some hard dungen boss that are ridicules more harder then raid makaniks. raid is a dungen whit minigame. pve have never be hard. and wow. hade all this addons. dont get how ppl die as ther do. it is just that is so big skill cap amung players. that it is hard to say some thing is har d our not. not every thing is tested equal. whit same skill players. the hardes game i play in term of boss acuntment is in warhammer online. dude to that players culd invade a dungen. and that make all so time consuming. but was most fun of all. now days nofing is hard in pve. and if u say that u noob. sry to say. good vid. and keep it up. like your perspective.
@christalbott45010 ай бұрын
Hi. Breathe air. To life. God made everything. His son, Jesus, pardoned all wrongs.
@MRGMGG Жыл бұрын
What happened ? Video despawned 🤔
@theamericanwordsmith2670 Жыл бұрын
Had to reupload due to a glitch on YT.
@MetaGoblin Жыл бұрын
KZbin fucked me over yet again...
@bkkarma178 Жыл бұрын
coff x
@skryah Жыл бұрын
Putting a GW2 boss in a top 10 hardest raids of all time is definitely a joke, right? Especially when there are other bosses in the game that are more difficult, let alone comparing to other MMOs that actually have difficult PvE. Also, not including a FFXIV ultimate? Considered by many, including the top mythic raiders from WoW, the hardest raids of all time to exist. 18+ minute long fight that require perfect execution and extreme mechanical knowledge.
@Twizzler300Ай бұрын
FF14 is it's own difficulty. More options doesn't make stuff harder. Reading the options, and making the bare minimum movements isn't hard. The only thing hard about FF14 is playing on console. Nothing else compares to how unbearable, devious, and annoying FF14 is on console. It's unplayable 😅 so if your on PC it is much easier to play. With more information at your fingers.