“Kids, in this class we’re going to cover the entirety of the Metal Gear Solid series, and explore what Kojima-san means when he talked about the war economy, artificial intelligence, memes, and the ramifications of genetically modifying child soldiers.”
@aphelion4616 Жыл бұрын
"And tomorrow, we will analyze Kojima-san's "Adventures in Babysitting."
@The2GAMERGIRLS3 жыл бұрын
Man, SOMA, actually surprised me a lot, I never had a game that got me thinking of my actions like that one .....
@gozinta823 жыл бұрын
Yah and came outta nowhere for me. Started watching a lets play and was like I gotta play this!
@sandpaperseat32283 жыл бұрын
The ultimate got ye moment in gaming 😅
@TheLowlifeXssassin3 жыл бұрын
Definitely broke me down and had me face my own mortality with a big emphasis on consciousness and reproduction.
@BenjaminBlueforever3 жыл бұрын
I will be checking this one out now.
@spencerhill7123 жыл бұрын
I think i check it out too!
@FriedrichVonSpietz3 жыл бұрын
There are still people looking for and discovering new things in the world of Shadow of The Colossus. It baffles me how the community around this game is still as in love with it as the day it launched (me included).
@maxderrat3 жыл бұрын
Yup! I'm part of that community who loves it to death. :D
@alberto98273 жыл бұрын
To play it in the ps2 as a kid, then in the ps3 as a teen and finally in the ps4 as an adult, it certainly has been a journey!! Edit: a lot of money as well hahaha
@alberto98273 жыл бұрын
@EliT HAHAHAAHAH dude! You have to try it!!!
@benfrancois7856 Жыл бұрын
@@maxderrat it may not be profound necessarily but a good psychological game I'd like you to do a review on or to get your take on would be martha is dead
@sandpaperseat32283 жыл бұрын
Nier taught me it’s all fun and games until you’re Roomba stars flicking red and stars saying cute things like “this cannot continue” and “become as gods”
@TupDigital3 жыл бұрын
😂hahaha. For a sec i had to think who Roomba was in N:A! Then i realized ya meant your robot vacuum
@Lesandira3 жыл бұрын
Final Boss: SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD.
@jjr81083 жыл бұрын
Robot sex
@Lesandira3 жыл бұрын
@@AgentAlfie OK, I will henceforth refer to it as Drakengard E Ending: Episode 2
@gibas_31773 жыл бұрын
@@AgentAlfie episode 1 and and work that yoko taro wanna forget (probably (pls ignore my pfp))
@ebesonen3 жыл бұрын
The BioShock series is taught me a a lot, it showed me that people in position's of power do not liked to be challenged, they will lable you "the bad guy" and get rid of you by any means necessary, it also shows how easy it is to manipulate people and turn them against you, anyway BioShock is a great series and I'm glad it made your list Max 👍
@dhoffnun3 жыл бұрын
It's a circus of values!
@iHaveTheDocuments3 жыл бұрын
Get rid of you by any means necessary? That reminds me of the current epidemic we have, cancle culture. And the side that's the biggest perpetrator of cancle culture by far.
@dangazobiton97743 жыл бұрын
@@iHaveTheDocuments anyone who recognizes this is immideately labed an "enemy of the people". Weaponizing the common men of the country you're in charge of never fails.
@xiiir8383 ай бұрын
@@iHaveTheDocumentsExactly. What we call "cancel culture" is another tool for power, to stay unchallenged
@jaydamalley33983 жыл бұрын
Planescape: Torment "What can change the nature of a man" My suggestion.
@AndrossUT3 жыл бұрын
This and Beyond Good & Evil definitely deserve some mention when discussing profound games.
@MahlerianMuse3 жыл бұрын
This should definitely be on the list. One of the greatest stories in gaming.
@Cryogenius3333 жыл бұрын
This guys notion of profundity seems to revolve quite heavily around media featuring cybernetics, AI, and human consciousness. Otherwise I could pull up plenty of profound games that would outclass some of the ones on this list. Planescape: Torment is one of them. Along with 2 games he even showed clips for, Hellblade: Senuas Sacrifice, and Spec Ops: The Line. Hell, as simple and grotesque as it is, "The Binding of Isaac" is pretty profound
@MsIvalane3 жыл бұрын
@@Cryogenius333 Man Hellblade really was fantastic, wasn't it? Love that game.
@SaifRahman233 жыл бұрын
The Room by Tommy Wiseau: The game
@ferdinand123903 жыл бұрын
the one from newgrounds?
@_-Lx-_3 жыл бұрын
The Spoons provide a deep and subtle look into the meaning of the existence of the universe. Truly beyond our comprehension.
@dracodeanglicus38573 жыл бұрын
_I did naht give her an arrow in the knee; I did nahhhhht. Oh hai Mark_
@Level_Eleven3 жыл бұрын
@@_-Lx-_ “There is no spoon”
@brittanysupernault46613 жыл бұрын
I don't know how, but you manage to blow my mind every time I watch a new video.
@PedroNascimento933 жыл бұрын
It’s sad that jrpgs are so “inaccessible”, because Xenogears should be a must to this list.
@Evilatem3 жыл бұрын
Xenogears is to gaming what Evangelion is to anime
@DzMM883 жыл бұрын
The first Nier also poses many difficult questions, mainly regarding what fulfills people in their lives, and if there is any meaning in trying to find who is right or wrong in conflicts. Really excited to play the remaster/pseudo-remake that's soon to be released!
@BlackEyedFish10 ай бұрын
what remake??
@abyss93163 жыл бұрын
Disco Elysium should be near the top as one of the most introspective thought-provoking that really delve into the human psyche addiction loneliness depression no other video game let's you contend with your mind and how your mind and experiences have shaped you and shape your experience in the world
@yungsmug71103 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@abyss93163 жыл бұрын
@@yungsmug7110 thank you
@Urelasir3 жыл бұрын
Yup that game is beautiful and sublime.
@pliubumas3 жыл бұрын
So, so looking forward for the new version to come to consoles.
@Cristian-tw5hg3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@kenillla3 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ, I’m at 1:23 and I had to stop. I don’t play video games anymore but starting from a fascination with videogame stories eventually got me into reading psychology and from there on to nietzsche, jung, freud, reich, zizek, lacan etc. I’m pretty much obsessed with psychoanalysis and philosophy nowadays, I usually read books 2-3 hours a day, as soon as I get some time off I usually lay down in bed with a marker and read, and I hated reading 6 years ago. And reading philospohy and psychoanalysis got me into weightlifting , eating healthy and facing my fears in life. Finally I got good self confidence in my life, and I seriously think Psychoanalysis is THE religion for our generation. I have had major problems with depression almost all my life and I recently ended a 3 year old relationship with a girl i loved and yeah, shit sucks, it hurts, and I got alot of anxiety right now, but I know that I will get through it because I’ve been through it before. And even though it hurts just as much as the last time, I’m so much stronger mentally today and much better prepeared. So this is now pretty much MY personal philosophy in life after years of learning about life both in reality and theory. ( (I’m 32 today and I have so much, much more to learn about life yet, and I know it will be alot pain in the future, i still want to try to embrace it because there is always something beautiful at the end of the tunnel that totally changes your life and your perspective again and again and again.) - Intellectual pursuits should be seen as only a hobby. (If you don’t make money from it). - dancing, moving, lifting, painting and listening/making music and crying like a little bitch is therapy for the soul. Its Alchemy. - Truth can only be found in your body and in your feelings. ”Your body has more wisdom than your deepest philosophy.” Because your UNCONSCIOUS is located in your body. Therefore your darkness and your shadow can be seen and felt in your body. - All the pain, shame, guilt, betrayal, anger and sorrow you feel/felt/will feel in your life should be embraced as something that will make you tougher. - You are not static, you are always Becoming. - Laughter and Humour is holy. - Avoid lying. - Live dangerously. Embrace chaos. - Belief in something (even in psychoanalysis) is the death of intelligence. Because it is ALL memes and ideology. - Respect the psyche and it will respect you back. - Question all morality. - Reality is always superior to Internet, video games, smart phone usage etc. etc. - A text message or a phonecall can never be a genuin interaction with someone, only face to face is genuin. - Be extremely aware and careful of where you choose to put your attention. It affects the thoughts you will have in the future. - Anger is one of your best tools in life, it gets shit done.
@gabrielvenegas27293 жыл бұрын
thanks
@benedict69623 жыл бұрын
wait, why did the video make you stop?
@kenillla3 жыл бұрын
@@benedict6962 just to write the comment, nothing more
@julianreviews81023 жыл бұрын
I always read the most interesting comments under Max’s videos
@ladyfox67053 жыл бұрын
I have started SOMA 2x now, and have to finish it! Max, a game that really blew my mind recently was Death Stranding. It is incredible and cerebral and made me think for a long time.
@maxderrat3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really like Death Stranding too! Did three videos on it. :D
@ladyfox67053 жыл бұрын
@@maxderrat Ohhhh fantastic! I will watch them all as soon as I can :-)
@austinteed32483 жыл бұрын
Get through Soma! Its so crazy
@averagesoul82563 жыл бұрын
automata is my favourite game ever made. It changed me on a completely different level
@umbraemahwa56753 жыл бұрын
Glory...to mankind...
@_-Lx-_3 жыл бұрын
"Cause we're gonna shout it loud, Even if our words seem meaningless"
@2-dsynctium7733 жыл бұрын
You are going to LOVE replicant then
@averagesoul82563 жыл бұрын
@@2-dsynctium773 played replicant
@2-dsynctium7733 жыл бұрын
@@averagesoul8256 nier replicant? Or nier gestalt? (Because im pretty sure the old replicant version was only available in the Japanese dub) the remaster with the English dub won't be available until April. (They're the same game anyways)
@agopessimist13353 жыл бұрын
My personal honorable mention would be Death Stranding. I know that in terms of important profound moments it falls behind your list and especially to Metal Gear Solid 2, but what I personally liked about DS in particular was its themes on isolation, death, and connection among people, and those themes seem to be becoming more and more relevant in this current age. Not only do we have to deal with the crises and themes addressed by MGS2, Deus Ex, and Bioshock, we also have to deal with the fact that we all are becoming more and more isolated and cut off from each other as time passes on. Sure, once the vaccine starts rolling out in larger numbers people can finally start to intermingle again (safely) but as a whole humanity seems so fractured and incapable of understanding and connecting with each other. I like how Death Stranding emphasizes these themes of connections, and in an ever increasingly online world we’re living in those themes are going to be more and more important. Definitely not as profound as the games you listed Max, but a hopefully worthy honorable mention
@Sattylites3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I remember you from Dark Souls Amino
@georgfriedrichhendl98813 жыл бұрын
the pandemic doesn't end with vaccination, it starts with it. Once the governments realize that they can make people take vaccinations that aren't really tested at all, they can do EVERYTHING with them.
@Konamalunu3 жыл бұрын
I would rather watch or read a thousand things about death stranding than actually play it. I was hyped for that game, but while actually plaing it I noticed that I had no fun and that my time would be better spend doing other things. Neverless, I am still very interested in it's story. BUT: The main turn off for me was the like system. Other people feel connected when they see that their bridge has 10000 likes, but I feel more disconnected, because there are 10000 people that may thought that "someone" did something helpfull, but this exact people are ultimately worthless to me and I am worthless to them as a human beeing, because we do not know each other. I think, that first of all we need to satiate our primal needs like food. But after that come the social needs which (at least for me) are beeing understood and understand others yourself. Connections between humans can be hollow or deep. A like is something really hollow. Sorry for the bad english.
@movement2contact3 жыл бұрын
@@Konamalunu that's my feelings towards gaming in general lately....👴🏻
@Deeplycloseted4353 жыл бұрын
I really liked it more than most people also. It kind of came out too early. This game was made for lockdowns. I liked the gameplay, in a real zoned out way. I don’t always want to be sitting up straight arguing with other players. Its a great time kill TBH.
@crypT1k4Fun3 жыл бұрын
Planescape-Torment is THE best media ive ever experienced. The story of that game will be with me forever.
@IAmNotMeisterEckhart3 жыл бұрын
Same. I replay it every other year or so. A game akin to a really, really good book.
@purpleguy3193 жыл бұрын
100% agree, Planescape Torment shaped who i am as a person as i played it at the age of 12. So many questions where asked and any answers gained had to be questioned. Minor Spoilers but, at one point in the game a rich person offers you money to murder you just to see what its like to kill someone without the legal and moral problems to deal with because you are immortal. This is a small unimportent moment in the game but later you learn that every time you die, someone else dies in your place recontextualising the whole senario and when you replay the game, which you will as you will not find all the secrets in one playthough, you have a choice to make get payed to help someone kill a random person, through killing youself, with absolutely no ramifications to the killer or not. And thats is just one small moment.
@Zockanumber13 жыл бұрын
I've tried playing it before but oldschool CRPG's are extremely tedious, Lots of Times even straight Up annyoing and exhausting to me. Is it worth sitting through gameplay mechanics I don' Like for multiple hours to experience the Story?
@Pacal_II3 жыл бұрын
@@Zockanumber1 Yes, the gameplay isn't actually tedious, you just probably aren't used to it. Everyone I know who actually had some experience with isometric RPGs would consider this one to be one of the easiest to get into. But it is easily the best history in video game history and to a larger extent than something like MGS, Nier or Silent Hill 2 it actually utilizes mechanics unique to video games to tell that story. The story is also really personal, emotional and it has one of the most original setting ever created. So yeah, it's fuckin worth it. I mean if it's not, then what video games aren't worth it in general.
@Zockanumber13 жыл бұрын
@@Pacal_II Well Then I'll definetely give it another Shot. Also I'm Not saying the Game is tedious compared to Other titles in its genre. Its Just that I could never get into isometric RPG's in General. But I'm a sucker for great Stories and original settings so it Looks Like I'll have to experience this Game. Thanks for your reply 👍
@ArmenManukyan3 жыл бұрын
I think Spec Ops: The Line also belongs here somewhere.
@Hammer56Time3 жыл бұрын
I've never played a game except Spec Ops that made me feel like an absolute worthless piece of shit in the best way possible
@vanjaarsic16163 жыл бұрын
I remember playing it for the first time and not knowing much about it thinking it will be like Call of Duty. But by the end I was fucking blown away. Just thinking about it gives me chills.
@faridronin3 жыл бұрын
The Horror
@crackedjabber3 жыл бұрын
A game with the goal of making you feel terrible about your choices and never wanting to play it ever again. It's genius.
@greenswamponion73303 жыл бұрын
Nier Automata would make me pause at times for like 10 minutes + because I was in awe at some of the key big moments in it. That final part with Pascal for example... Yeah
@MyManJFKTV3 жыл бұрын
That destroyed me.
@gibas_31773 жыл бұрын
What did you chose. Although it might seem cruel I just left him there
@DanielLopez-ob9jz3 жыл бұрын
@@gibas_3177 I don't think it was cruel to leave Pascal. Pascal would've gone through the same loop even if you chose to reset.
@snowbringercult3 жыл бұрын
@@gibas_3177 i left him. they make it clear mid route b that machines are bound to repeat humanity's flaws over and over forever as part of the endless war, so if he was reset he was bound to have done it again
@qxz9p3 жыл бұрын
Kids, this is what we mean by a “waifu”, and what the android badonkadonk can do for the glory of mankind.
@Vivec3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love videos like these, this is great for progressing the academic evaluation of games. Thanks for all your great work Max
@deadfr0g3 жыл бұрын
Realistically it has no business being anywhere on a modern list, but MASSIVE SHOUTOUT to Missile Command (1980). Absolutely a breakthrough pioneer in designing game mechanics to tell an emotionally impactful story.
@andreluizazevedo4793 жыл бұрын
Love the list! But i would have inserted Limbo, INSIDE, Disco Elysium, Bloodborne and Pathologic 2, as these are the games that touched me the most
@gibas_31773 жыл бұрын
Yea pathologic is dope as heck
@george90573 жыл бұрын
I not too sure about 2 of your selections. INSIDE and Limbo are very minimalistic in their story telling and don’t really try to teach you certain things. Their very abstract games so they are design to raise more questions than answers. Maybe I’d argue that INSIDE does teach you, perhaps about the value of life but like I said, both of their stories are abstract, and make the player ponder and focus more on the story, than a message. When the objective should be for a student to learn something from these games.
@andreluizazevedo4793 жыл бұрын
@@george9057 That depends, both of these games could be studied for years in how to develop a story that can touch people so deeply without a single line of dialogue. The environmental storytelling is just masterfully done. Making a story that could be interpreted in zillions of ways is not an easy task, because the developers always have to be inserting details that are coherent with the game in order to make sure that it's not just a bunch of random things put together and it's impossible to find the final pieces of the puzzle you're trying to solve. A good example of a story that put a lot of random things around trying to become a movie that could be interpreted in several ways and failed horribly is Donnie Darko imo
@MaxV113 жыл бұрын
Inside uses images in order to make you "feel" and, most important thing, it doesn't give you any answer, therefore it stimulates your subconscious in order to get answers that go beyond rationality. It is a true masterpiece, one of the best games I've ever experienced.
@MrEmkeiPL3 жыл бұрын
What Remains of Edith Finch imo deserves a place on this list, because of game's interesting and refreshing take on family relations and death.
@rukathekid78533 жыл бұрын
You are doing us all a great service Max People like you have inspired me to be prouder of loving video games Loving the stories they tell, the characters, the worlds and the journeys
@HE3609 ай бұрын
I have more: 1. Shenmue: A game that incorporates a lot of Asian culture to the point where when I went to Asia, I saw a ton of similarities to what was in the game. 2. Detroit: With the current rise of A.I. it's a story where Robots (A.I.) lived alongside humans. They worked and did the same jobs that humans do. Some robots got into trouble with the law (like humans); some were involved with gangs, etc. those robots had emotions, and those robots did almost EVERYTHING that humans do. It was a good glimpse into what our future could be like if we keep going on with A.I. and if those robots develop Artificial General Intelligence and we keep getting Robots like Ameca.that lives in our reality right now!
@JRad9333 жыл бұрын
Man, its so nice to actually find someone thats implementing the vision that I’ve had of videogame psychology since I was a little boy that didn’t understand crap about life. Its gonna sound cheesy, but its an honor to follow and het to to see the work that you put into your videos. And to add to the list, I would have to mention Remember me from Capcom. Very underrated game with an impactful concept of the need to remember things as they were and forget about how they are.
@Vivec3 жыл бұрын
Will have to give Nier Automata another go, I've tried playing through it several times now but haven't been able to fully feel what it was going for, both plot-wise and in terms of the gameplay. This video has definitely inspired me to persevere and see it through.
@Mexicutionerx93 жыл бұрын
I was in the same boat as you a while ago and it’s totally valid to feel that way about the game. I thought Nier was very unsatisfying when I finally decided to power through it and finish. It’s a great story concept but it’s executed and presented poorly which is why I am indifferent about the game overall. SOMA presents a similar story but it was presented in a much more engaging and horrifying way that really makes it one of the more memorable games I’ve ever played because it hooks you immediately. Nier doesn’t get to its “point” until a very significant moment happens halfway through the story. Which personally made me feel like the entire 1st half, as well as a specific character, should’ve just been scrapped as a whole. Idk if you’re at that point in the story yet but once you get there, that’s when it finally gets interesting imo. But it may make you still feel like the game is forgettable by the end simply due to just not being as hooked early on as most other people were who played this game
@turicaederynmab53433 жыл бұрын
Nier's presentation made me never want to touch it. It's themes are explored by other games like Soma and Deus Ex, only those games feel a lot more engaging to play and the way the messages and themes are carried are much better IMO.
@ZinedinelaHyene Жыл бұрын
tell me u played it now plz
@Suzakuux3 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend checking out Xenogears. That games story focuses heavily on philosophy and religion.
@Suzakuux3 жыл бұрын
@Jill Valentine Huh? What does that even mean? I'm sure if someone recommends something that might fit the topic, he would check it out.
@Suzakuux3 жыл бұрын
@Jill Valentine how and why does that even matter? He's talked about games that are almost as old as it, maybe just as old. And it's about the themes contained within that fit what he was talking about. No need to be closed-minded.
@Suzakuux3 жыл бұрын
@Jill Valentine Yet he clearly asked for recommendations... hmm. Also seems to me like you're a little offended by my recommendation to even comment on it in the first place, yet claim to be neutral. Ok, sure. Genre, age, visual style, or "intricate and fun gameplay" shouldn't matter in this case. He had a Silent Hill game on the list, those aren't exactly the definition of "fun" nor do they have intricate gameplay. And yes, the fact that you're shutting down a recommendation that would fit what he's asking just because YOU assume it's not right makes you kinda closed-minded. There's nothing wrong with just thinking "sure, I'll check that out" before being negative.
@Suzakuux3 жыл бұрын
@Jill Valentine Nope. Just don't care to interact with an ignorant dumbass anymore.
@Suzakuux3 жыл бұрын
@Jill Valentine Wow... you're still going at it. I forgot you existed. Lol The points you mentioned made no sense. Who the fuck cares if the "audience" is different than what was recommended? What matters is if the subject matter of the recommendation fit the themes he was talking about. Holy shit... what you're saying if like completely excluding a foreign film from a topic of discussion just because it's subtitled. Closed-minded ignorance, as simple as that.
@0dious3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but in terms of exposing life truths in the most brutal manner, packman still takes the cake.
@jordanowen423 жыл бұрын
There’s a Bloom County comic strip where Pac Man is sitting at a bar drinking and saying “man- it seems like all we’re doing is eating and running, eating and running...”
@_-Lx-_3 жыл бұрын
This typo is making me imagine a game where Pac is a guy who pack and fit everything into a bunch of boxes. I don't know why but I find it mildy entertaining to think about.
@SturgusLipmonger3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Planescape-Torment though
@Cryogenius3333 жыл бұрын
Masterpiece
@LadyUnforgiven3 жыл бұрын
To this day I still can't decide whether my favourite game ever is Silent Hill 1 or 2. I know how you feel Omg almost all my favourite games are in this video. Thanks for mentioning The Talos Principle.
@JoeyM103 жыл бұрын
Just one mans opinion: SH 1 was much more compelling minute by minute, but the last 30 minutes of SH2 hit you like an emotional ton of bricks and you’re left just thinking about the whole thing for hours afterwards.
@markphillips48363 жыл бұрын
You’re content is fantastic my dude.
@maxderrat3 жыл бұрын
YOU'RE FANTASTIC.
@umbraemahwa56753 жыл бұрын
@@maxderrat You're breathtaking!
@Luigi-hb5td3 жыл бұрын
Damn max, back at it again with an amazing video!
@user046833 жыл бұрын
Also, the Metro games for really pushing misery and despair right in your face while you focus on a small piece of hope. Perhaps not so profound in terms of the lore but in terms of visuals, the creatures, and the environment, they really pack a punch.
@KasumiRINA2 жыл бұрын
They're based on books though... so kinda cheating to count here. The author is on russian federal wanted list also))) Which is a compliment.
@cojocoolio2 жыл бұрын
Omg so glad you included Soma and The Talos Principle. TTPs puzzles were legitimately challenging but I also found myself trying to seek out every audio recording so I could piece the story together. Both Soma's ending and TTP's entire game stuck with me for LONG after I beat them
@LubelistYT3 жыл бұрын
Discovered you a few weeks ago, love your content. Keep it up!
@judgewade86193 жыл бұрын
As soon as I started watching I was like: "I wonder where NieR: Automata is going to rank". I was not disappointed.
@AndimatterUniverse3 жыл бұрын
Absolute Top Tier List. I really feel like you put a lot of thought into this and that you were able to explain why every game deserves to be on the list.
@hanskristiannilsen50583 жыл бұрын
Really happy with the number 1 placement (not gonna spoil it) because I am currently replaying that game. I loved your description of dark souls, and I feel it kind of applies to the number 1 game too. With the high-speed, fun, intense gameplay it would be truly remarkable on its own, yet it also has one of gamings best stories.
@cargoofdarkness3 жыл бұрын
Talo's Princible is amazing. Should be a must play for every academics.
@AJ-pc9gu3 жыл бұрын
i want to play it, but im curious about something. I heard theres a narrator, is that the only way the story is told? Or is it more organic where u solve puzzles that directly tell the story?
@trashboi5763 жыл бұрын
@@AJ-pc9gu The story is told by many means but it's not that organic: there's the narrator (who speaks only during important moments); there's documents to read from terminals; there's some audiologs around the levels of a scientis from the past and comments on the world/puzzles/believes from other characters that have been there before you. I can think of only one part of the game where the puzzles are really bound to the narrative, supporting and enhancing it visually and with gameplay; I think it's the best part of the game, "sadly" everything else of the story is experienced in a passive way.
@AJ-pc9gu3 жыл бұрын
@@trashboi576 thanks my man. I saw it for 3 pounds so i went for it. Bit of a shame the game isn't more cohesive, but a miracle all the same that it even exists; creating a cerebral game when your the makers of serious sam.
@stalkeler3 жыл бұрын
@@AJ-pc9gu best way of telling a story in Talos Principle is dialogues and they’re roots of Road to Gehenna DLC “Must play” game with beautiful philosophy questions and OST
@pla6ue3 жыл бұрын
Ugh...F that game lol
@UrFavSangheili3 жыл бұрын
That tease of Journey! When i first played Journey and got to the end i had a moment that could only be described as "religious ecstasy" with how it changed my world view, i've played through it multiple times and it's so comforting and wonderful to this day. I think it's short length would also help support it for teaching, as compared to some of the other games which are tens of hours long.
@rafamuniak3 жыл бұрын
I'm suprised it's not on the list. Definitely more profound experience than e.g. any Souls game.
@jamesmontgomery70748 ай бұрын
I remember I got to the end of Journey with my partner and we sat down at the summit of the mountain and then they got up and ran around drawing a heart in the sand around me. This moment was absolute magic for me. With no other way of communicating with me they were able to let me know they enjoyed our time together. It was awesome.
@geekmac93493 жыл бұрын
I‘d love to see you make the same list for movies even though that‘d probably be a lot harder considering how long movies been around (or maybe just do your personal 10 favorite profound movies, that‘d be easier)
@andresrosa63133 жыл бұрын
For me is Shadow of the Colossus. Every now and then I listen to the soundtrack especially the ending, but I gotta say that is an awesome list and a great video. Thank you Max
@AAMFSS3 жыл бұрын
Love how Spec Ops The Line hasn't been forgotten yet.
@Thomas-cr2pt3 жыл бұрын
masterpiece!
@Deadforge2 жыл бұрын
I've always loved and appreciated your videos. I also think you've always done great with the video essays and showing how much more potential games have. I personally try to support people like yourself and help share my own love and value for games. Video games are an Insanely powerful art medium.
@cyberlingbot3d8963 жыл бұрын
ah yes there's so much that goes into a game that's overlooked, the 3D art, the sound effects, the music, animations, coding. Video games are really underestimated.
@morgandraegar73013 жыл бұрын
Layers of Fear, Antichamber, What Remains of Edith Finch, and The Witness. Those are a few I personally found quite profound. Anyways, amazing video! Thank you :)
@jba20483 жыл бұрын
A Max video! My crap day just got brighter! Thanks Max!
@maxderrat3 жыл бұрын
Your comment just made my day brighter! Thank you.
@A_Red_Pyramid3 жыл бұрын
This was a great list, Max. I've played a lot of horror games in my day, but I don't think any game has disturbed me as much as DEFCON. The cold and simple visuals, the distant and echoed sound effects, and the plain white text that appears when a city is nuked, informing of how many millions are dead. It all comes together to give the experience of sitting in an underground bunker, safe from the bombs above, as you destroy the world with them. I've never had an experience quite like it. Especially when you figure the game out and get into a 6-way diplomacy match. Good times. Honourable mention to Kairo. What seems to be a simple and surreal walking sim/puzzler unveils itself as you notice recurring themse, culminating in an ending that has you asking some poignant questions.
@ryanpeters10053 жыл бұрын
Great video. Personally, one of my favorite "profound" games is Life Is Strange. Not only does the story have many things that make it profound, but the gameplay succeeds at conveying meaning in a way not possible through any other medium of storytelling. In college, I actually conducted a social psychology experiment where I recorded people playing the first hour or so of the game. Disregarding the story entirely, the gameplay alone can be used to demonstrate cognitive dissonance, Brehm's free choice paradigm, and self-verification. Things get even deeper if you play the whole game and take the story into account. The game builds upon the previously mentioned base with effort justification and self naratives; it brings up various questions in ethics like personal interests vs greater good, and the story was crafted to be naturalist (I won't give an example to prevent spoilers).
@hanzflackshnack1158 Жыл бұрын
FFVII was a dive into the socioeconomic structure. We lived in a world that promoted a climb through the corporate ladder with revenue being the ultimate goal. To play as a separatist organization seeking the greater good for mankind at any cost was profound. You see these people’s home lives in the slums. The intricate web of scientists, soldiers, political leaders, community leaders, underlying motivations… Add to that the metaphor of the planet fighting back, the devastation of foreign influence, the disillusionment of a teenager unaware of who he actually is during all of this turmoil…. Definitely the most substantial impact any game has left on me.
@motherSuperior693 жыл бұрын
Super pleased to see SOMA in here, absolute hidden gem of a game
@mercenarygundam14873 жыл бұрын
Parents: Video Games teach you nothing! This video: You were saying?
@thelastminuteman75133 жыл бұрын
As they're on the couch flicking through cable tv.
@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT3 жыл бұрын
Games like FIFA and Destiny make the argument of “Games are a waste of time.”
@reromust-A23 жыл бұрын
I agree completely, not only is Nier one of my favorite games of all time, but it has also made me think more then any other game
@sekizuri10173 жыл бұрын
Great video. So many amazing games out there. Some examples of other profound games I’d say is Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne and The Witness. Lots of subtext going on in both. Nocturne has arguably the greatest intro cinematic of any game I’ve played
@throwawaysource31103 жыл бұрын
Xenogears, without a doubt, belongs on this list. Another game that has inspired decades of introspection/discussion after its release. Max, would love to see your take on this one if you ever have time to dive into it. Keep up the great work!
@maxderrat3 жыл бұрын
I recently downloaded it to my PS Vita. :D As soon as I'm done getting through Persona, I'm going to start playing that.
@throwawaysource31103 жыл бұрын
@@maxderrat Awesome, thanks for responding! Based on your past work, I think you will enjoy it. Resonant Arc did a great summary, with Patrick Holleman, of how all the themes explored in the game tie together (Philosphy/Psychology/Religion/Reference to other literary and film works) in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/romUe2yur6h9b5o However, if you want to go spoiler-free on your first playthrough, you probably want to avoid that until after you have completed the game.
@remusaldana81473 жыл бұрын
I once asked one of my university teachers, in a class about climate change in fiction, if I could write a paper on Anthropocene in Shadow of the colossus He told me that he believed i would write an excellent paper but that jhe could never grade it because academics are absolutely against video games and They unanimously refused to consider video games worthy of academic studies We still have a long way to go Man, and People like You that study video games as genuine material for academic research are my own personal heroes, please never lose faith Man
@guardianoftime23 жыл бұрын
sadly, it's not just games. the academics community seems to be against anything pop culture or "new". i have friends who wanted to -and could- write (with research and interviewing) about serious social issues showcased in manga or comic books and they were discouraged to, for the same reason. it's either you do it their way or not. either you copy/follow already well-established ideologies or not, god forbid you do something different, something unconventional, something _on your own_ .
@TheMightyPika3 жыл бұрын
Not just Nier Automata, EVERYTHING buly Yoko Taro is profound. The first Nier is a beautiful eligy regarding "the past was horrible - we have to handle the now". Drakengard, while clunky and needing some polish, explores themes such as the fetishization of innocence, which I can't say I've seen in a game before. I'd love to see you tackle his games as a whole someday.
@jarrod51793 жыл бұрын
Great video. Every game deserved to be there. Might want to make "The Swapper" #11. Moody, atmospheric puzzler exploring existentialism and philosophy of mind.
@TitansTracks3 жыл бұрын
That intro alone is why I dig your channel Max. You're using your platform to educate people on their level. I'm one of those kids you mentioned ( well more like a 28 year old man) but I never took interest in psychology until I stumbled upon your videos. The way you explore these themes and concepts really sparked my interest in the subject. It's that same spark of interest I got when listening to Issac Arthur's science and futurism stuff. Just wanted to say keep up the good work, I hope your channel grows and reaches many more people. We could all really benefit from this type of education! 💎
@Wallguardian3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to academic value and balanced discussions (which I believe is important for an individual's mental health) there's no channel I'd rather watch than yours. I remember when your channel only had a few dozen subscribers/views. I sure spent most of this time as a spectator instead of actively discussing "the most pressing issues of our present" with you and our fellow netizens, which I somehow regret; but I truly admire your evolution, Max! I wish I had your strength in this world of madness and polarization. I know it's been a month since this was released but thank you for making these videos, you wonderful bastard!
@Ktulutp3 жыл бұрын
I can’t stop thinking about "Pathologic" especially during this covid time. Try it you wont regret it
@jazhigh26353 жыл бұрын
haha first or second one? I never played either but I heard that Pathologic 2 has way better gameplay and Pathologic 1, the original project, included more concepts since you could play in multiple perspectives and see how each perspective deciphers what's going on differently.
@vincentgaliano3 жыл бұрын
This list is so great! I was expecting Journey as n°1. Now I want to play Nier Automata! I haven't played Deus Ex and Killer 7 (never heard of that one) before. Although, my number 1 would be Death Stranding by far. This is definitely the most profound game I've played, carrying it with me for months. For the rest I would have a similar list as you, but with The Last of Us and Journey. The Talos Principle in my top 3. This game is philosophy in a video game. I highly recommend it.
@PhilFromTheAbyss3 жыл бұрын
Haven't played Nier: Automata, but I think my personal number 1 would be Planescape Torment. Silent Hill 2 and Dark Souls would probably be my number 2 and 3.
@danielraposo97783 жыл бұрын
You should definitely play it, it will surprise you.
@stillgameandmusic7 ай бұрын
You have to Play Nier Automata. And don’t stop after finishing route a. The best comes after
@FahmiKhasmy3 жыл бұрын
Hi Man. I juts want to you know that I love your work. I'm not subscribing much channel but I subscribed yours. Anyway. I have suggestion that you can make video about profound game based on the main subject it talked. Like; what is the most profound game that talked about human existential? Or psychology/psychoanalitic? Political issue? War and peace? New Media and Information Disruption Era? Etc. You can make it as a whole video or partial video. It doesn't matter, I would love to see. I know most of game talk about multiple subject but I think there's main message after all. Of course, I feel you miss or never talk abou some profound game I want to mention. But above all the game thought, I love to see you talk about "This War of Mine". Thanks for your lovely works, Mate. I love you.
@bagoheado90653 жыл бұрын
I have had many difficulties understanding others and myself, through games, I feel I've unlocked my empathy.
@DavidPigbody3 жыл бұрын
And difficulty understanding when to use the correct punctuation apparently
@t.o.p68493 жыл бұрын
That's really sad
@ricardofilho26263 жыл бұрын
Seeing Nier Automata on the first spot really put a smile on my face. Yoko Taro is a genius.
@separatisms43363 жыл бұрын
My picks: Demon's Souls, Alice: Madness Returns, Last of Us 1, Binding of Isaac, Shadow of the Colossus, Dark Souls, Portal 2, Red Dead Redemption 1, Dead Rising 2, Brutal Legend. Really excited for what the next decades games will bring!
@vincentvega78653 жыл бұрын
Holy shit brütal legend? :D i should really finish it some time because now i am curious why you would say it is profound.
@movement2contact3 жыл бұрын
What's with that Binding of Isaac thing... 🤔 I've had it on 'ignore' on Steam for years now... 🙄
@separatisms43363 жыл бұрын
@@vincentvega7865 It may not be as profound as some as the others, but I would say it is profound because it takes pop culture and turned it into mythology. I think there is something to be said for that. I doubt many people would say its deep, as it is quite a silly game at times, but its surprisingly got more substance than one may initially think. The character Ophelia is even a reference to Shakespeares Hamlet, which seems unnessary for a purely comical crude game. Theres some neat themes too about fighting for freedom and how the true hero (the roadie) is one who stays out of the spotlight and saves the day not for ego, but to simply restore order. Its also just an awesome tribute to music. Metalheads seem to have a passion like no other. Its difficult to imagine a game like this for pop, rap, or country music, you know?
@separatisms43363 жыл бұрын
@@movement2contact It is a very nihilistic game, its not for everyone. Its largely a criticism of blind faith. The plot is about a boy (Isaac) whose mother believes she hears the voice of god instructing her to kill her son. Theres lots of references to the bible and pop culture littered throughout the game. The game has a lot of disturbing and disgusting imagery in it, yet somehow remains cute due to the art style. Its a roguelike and gambling is a heavy aspect of every playthrough, making the player themselves rely on faith, which is often unrewarded, giving the player a sense of futility. A fun indie title paying tribute to the classics of the 80s, while exploring the depths of nihilism and faults of religious thinking. I always find myself returning to it.
@elfuego34903 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this list video for a while haha!! Especially happy to see Bioshock’s inclusion and Spec Ops: The Line’s runner up position recognized in the description. Still hoping for the Lost videos if you decide to do them! I’d LOVE to hear your analyses on them because I’m sure you could find things I even missed!!
@mauriciofarfan39373 жыл бұрын
We need a part 2...Derrat ,my friend, have you heard about the word of lord? : XENOGEARS?
@kenton51503 жыл бұрын
Mine always froze halfway into the second disc🤦♂️.
@ZeranZeran3 жыл бұрын
Yes! New Max video. This week just got better :)
@marianoclerici39863 жыл бұрын
Allow me to humbly mention Drakengard. There's so much more to that game than meets the eye, especially if you're willing to overlook the mediocre, repetitive gameplay. In lore and even in an abstract, conceptual way, Drakengard is one of a kind. It even uses its own repetitiveness in an interesting way, not too differently from what Far Cry 2 does with the respawning outposts.
@pippop58283 жыл бұрын
would you say that nier: automata was the culmination of the Drakengard series? or do they have nothing in common?
@marianoclerici39863 жыл бұрын
@@pippop5828 I haven't played Nier Automata yet, so I don't know how much they're related, actually. I plan on playing it soon, though.
@Akkihana3 жыл бұрын
@@pippop5828 i have played most of then (didnt play drakengard 2 or the nier replicant remaster yet) and i think not. All the games seems to show the nature of men and conflict while asking different questions about then.
@cowsforliyyfe3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I just got a PS5 (my first console since the gamecube) and I have a lot to catch up on, and this is already an excellent list. I'm already in love with SOTC since I played it a couple months ago (and binge watching all your videos on it) and I was about to play Soma, so I'm sure everything else on this list is amazing!
@Williamfuchs4203 жыл бұрын
When i was in my first years of college i was Playing the Xenosaga games while simultaneously taking a philosophy class and the crossover definitely helped keep me interested. Kept running into concepts in the game we would talk about in class...
@lonecaveira69733 жыл бұрын
Love your posts brother keep up the good work!
@Zigurat73 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see that Silent Hill video about religion, alchemy, and dualism. Pretty please.
@maxderrat3 жыл бұрын
In the meantime, I'd recommend you go check out Reinstall Paul's videos on Silent Hill's links to alchemy. If I do my version of it, I would need to get permission from this guy first. Here's a link to it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGSVo4SDjp6glZI In regards to religion and dualism, my pre-existing videos tackle those subjects pretty well, I think. Thanks for commenting, broseph.
@gustavo.11603 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for your dedication an for giving us the pleasure of enjoying your videos,full of thoughtfull and profound comments.
@brimward1223 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot more from these games than I did from my humanities class.
@mrcat34933 жыл бұрын
To me, my humanities classes enhanced my enjoyment of these games.
@turismofoegaming8806 Жыл бұрын
I’ll never forget the first time getting to experience silent hill in 1999 at 15 years of age and struggling, scared on the edge of my seat going through that game that weekend and finally making it all the way through to the end and getting one of the better endings where you get to fight Samael, on my first try!!!! It is a game I absolutely love and I still play to this very day via emulation.. (I had all the good black label copies of original PlayStation games and one of my friends lost my CD wallet that had all the CDs in it to the games😢) Silent hill is definitely one of the most profound for me-
@Mannnnnnnn3 жыл бұрын
Calling that dark souls or bloodborne or shadow of the colossus is on this before watching
@putyograsseson3 жыл бұрын
From Software + GenDesign are my favorite studios ❤️
@benfrancois7856 Жыл бұрын
I love the way you breakdown video games you are great philosopher thank you
@maxderrat Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, homie.
@benfrancois7856 Жыл бұрын
@@maxderrat your very welcome
@isaiasrico5893 жыл бұрын
The legacy of Kain series could have been here also! At least for me it made question my religious beliefs as a teenager, I grew up in a cult so breaking free of that was definitely influenced by the esoteric, philosophical, existential horror story line of the series. Especially having amazing dialogue and voice actors that reminded me of what Shakespeare could have been like if he would have known Aleister Crowley. And it made vampires cool before they became glittery and harmless. I could go on forever about the series. Soul Reaver 2 was probably my favorite when it comes to the story.
@simonhives25922 жыл бұрын
Deffo agree with you.
@dhoffnun3 жыл бұрын
I saw the title and hoped to see Senua at least somewhere in this video, not disappointed. Fantastic work here - there are games on this list I know and love, and others that I'll be checking out thanks to you!
@Zockanumber13 жыл бұрын
Damn I actually Stopped playing Nier Automata during the 2nd playthrough because it got so tedious. Now I wish I would've suffered through it. Your knowledge and Work is greatly appreciated and I really enjoyed the video
@umbraemahwa56753 жыл бұрын
I actually enjoyed the second playthrough, you're almost there tough, once you get past the tedious part, the story advances, very much worth it.
@XavierHollywood3 жыл бұрын
The second playthrough should go by pretty quickly considering how strong you are. It's a shame, you missed out on half of the game.
@simonhives25922 жыл бұрын
Soul Reaver 1 & 2 and conclusion of Raziel's story in Legacy of Kain Defiance, Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3, Final Fantasy X & the main story mode of GTA5.
@FiliusFidelis3 жыл бұрын
Soma, Talos Principle, Deus Ex all these are on my short list of all time favourite games. Been meaning to get NieR:Automata for a long time, but haven't gotten around to it.
@22Owls3 жыл бұрын
You’re in for something good if you’re getting automata
@ZenDel103 жыл бұрын
I belive that, for the first time in my many years as a gamer never have watched a top ten, that I 100% agree, kudos to you good sir, exelent video.
@Overonator3 жыл бұрын
The Swapper was good and so was The Fall.
@halb233 жыл бұрын
The swapper is so underated.
@Overonator3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I loved how the game had a plot which had elements from the battle between Daniel Dennett and David Chalmers.
@YusiDJordan3 жыл бұрын
First I thought: "Strange, a top-ten video where I agree with every title in the description." Then I realized it was a Max Derrat video and I thought "Oh, that's why". Another excellent video, my man.
@Halden.3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else think DOOM could be seen as a metaphor for depression?
@seletron82913 жыл бұрын
The only think holding that man from the brink is killing demons, soooo...
@Sattylites3 жыл бұрын
With how human philosophical ideologies function, anything that has two components being 1. You vs. near all odds, and 2. Overcoming a challenge With how our brains work, in this logic, it could, but logistically that's not the case
@Halden.3 жыл бұрын
Eh, maybe it just reminds me of depression because I really like DOOM and it usually helps cure any bad moods.
@austinteed32483 жыл бұрын
The only thing depressin' in DOOM is my thumbs into that enemies skull.
@thebarbaryghostsf6 ай бұрын
Glad to see I have profound taste in games lololol. These are some great videos. Just discovered your channel.
@literallyjustchickensandwich3 жыл бұрын
I love u dude. Keep up the great work.
@GingerClaw423 жыл бұрын
This is great. I would also add Star Wars KOTOR 2, in particular the character Kreia. There’s already KZbin channels about it.
@cristianguanziroli36483 жыл бұрын
-Original Nier -Planescape Torment -Xenogears
@HeloIV3 жыл бұрын
As others have commented, you should try Planescape Torment. Plus I'd add KOTOR 2, Mask of the Betrayer and Pathologic 2 Also unrelated, you might wanna consider starting to upload videos on Odyssee/LBRY
@Deeplycloseted4353 жыл бұрын
Max, you do such a good job at this. You have your own voice, which is cool because most other quality gaming channels, just kinda all say the same things.
@GuiSmith3 жыл бұрын
Everybody's Gone to the Rapture is another one of those existential gems. I'd compare it a lot to Soma in it's large lack of major gameplay. It's a pretty emotional story, lots of pretty lights (although a bit too bright), a wander-friendly world with lots to find, and some very good music.
@duilioslipknot6663 жыл бұрын
Play pathologic 2 man, and if tou enjoy it play the classic hd
@clownworldhereticmyron10183 жыл бұрын
I wish I had the time and energy to finish playing pathologic 2. It's the kind of game I'd prefer to play start to end with very minimal breaks (ie pretty much just sleeping and eating) but I dont have a good chunk of time to do it because of work.
@duilioslipknot6663 жыл бұрын
@@clownworldhereticmyron1018 Its Impossible, Its like 15-20 hours
@duilioslipknot6663 жыл бұрын
I prefer to play one day per time, its 12
@giusvablacxshirt39393 жыл бұрын
Screw you Duilio
@k00lkushy863 жыл бұрын
This was awesome! love your work man keep it up!
@nfguk96333 жыл бұрын
Watched your memes being the DNA of the soul video and a few of the other metal gear ones whilst on shrooms....my god did I get stuck in a thinky hole
@sqwadleader11933 жыл бұрын
Great video! This would make a really impressive syllabus of game narratives for an academic course.