Top 10 No 15 Mistakes Beginner Printers Make - Like ME!

This started to be a list of mistakes others make when they are starting up with Photo Printing At Home.
But as I went into it further, I realized that I have made many more mistakes than these folks.
SO.... here are my top 15 ( plus one ) mistakes I have committed in my time as a home photo printer since year 2000!
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[@cditfurth]

Great video! Thank you.

[@YK-wz4qx]

Thanks Jose, super useful compilation and reminders!

[@cheo1949]

Thank you. There many more that I've committed but I think might 16 might be enough for now.

[@snoboardz1972]

I love learning and laughing at the same time. Your sense of humor had me laughing throughout the video. Thanks.

[@cheo1949]

Thank you!

[@mbd1968]

Just found you! I'm subscribing now! Great work. Thank you... Thank you... Thank you!

[@cheo1949]

Glad to have you join us!

[@davidkirk1426]

Another good tip (having had issues raised by one of my customers) You do not need a rainbow selection of multiple papers when you are starting out. Start with a few packs of the manufacturers own papers until you know what you are doing (we all do a variety of finishes). Then, and only then begin experimenting, you can often get sample packs, and swatches from the manufacturer (both Awagami, and Hahnemuhle have been quite good to me in that respect for their new papers for alternative processes). Pick perhaps 2 or three, then get proficient with them - different images/styles lend themselves to different papers - e.g. Fotospeed's Platinum Baryta lends itself well to black and white images, Permajet's ultrapearl paper is great for general use, and proofing (can also be alkward for people to scan).

[@cheo1949]

Perfectly stated!

[@Stuwie2x2]

I just want to say, thanks for all your information about printing. I just bought canon pro-100s and Epson Ecotank 7750 (will send back the one which causes the most problems). Thought that the ecotank would be better choice because of the cheap dye but seeing you talking about refilling the cli-42s opened my eyes a bit . Especially since the epson is giving me odd problems such as totally weird saturation, colours and dye not staying on the paper (I'm getting proper Epson paper soon.) First two prints were fine with Epson but then some problems occured, Canon is working as expected (I was using canon's pro platinum which came with the canon's printer). The only shame thing is that I live in Eu so I cannot get the precisioncolours ink, so I think I have to use the octoink's ink Still thanks for making and sharing your information about printing. Keep up with the good work.

[@cheo1949]

The eco tank printers are really only good for throwaway office flyers.

[@GINZO4849]

Your first point makes me want to retuirn printer unopened. I bought a Canon Pixma Pro 10 as my first venture into home printing. Have I bitten off too much? Love your videos and if I need to take a step back, I'm okay with that.

[@cheo1949]

Nah. The pro-10 is one excellent printer. Just use it as it is meant to be used. Every few days and it will reward you with lots of excellent prints. There are money saving options to consider as well so you can still produce top quality prints at the lowest cost possible. Check out my PRO-10 playlist and specifically the test results of the signature edition inks from precisioncolors.

[@PECMS]

Tocayo..tabloid is 13x11..I’m struggling with a brother mfcj6710w. And the inks. It is frustrating, and I’m about to decide for another one and thought about the canons, mainly because of your good videos. I might end up buying the ix 6820

[@cheo1949]

Gracias. Now that's a size I have never heard of. Are there any laser printers that can fill the bill? Inkjet is not really suitable for that type of work. It simply cost too much to run.

[@jeanaretz]

Hello Jose, I love to watch your vlogs about the printers! My question is; I'm considering to by a Canon Pro 100s (in Holland $500 no rebate) or a Canon IP8750. They are both Dye printers. The 8750 has 1 color less. I wil print once a month a A3+ and now and then a A4 photo. What is your advice. Or maybe a other brand Epson 15000 or 960 or P400 or ........ Love to hear from you. Thank you!

[@cheo1949]

Either printer is good,The PRO-100 is over all better. Once a month will not work so well as you really need to print something before every 60 hours pass to avoid huge cleaning cycles that the printer will initiate if you go without printing after 60-120-240-480 hours. Each larger than the previous one. Put your inks on paper rather than the ink waste pads.

[@joyjosephiyana6220]

Thank you for the many or lots of advices, by the way which ink do you prefer pigment or dye?

[@cheo1949]

BOTH. They each have their uses.

[@oliviermaes4837]

Hi Jose! I've found a good deal on the Epson Styles Photo 1500W, do you think this is a good printer to get into home-printing? Great videos, keep them coming!

[@cheo1949]

Sure. It is the same as our 1400. I've had two and they consistently produced great dye prints.

[@Pete391]

I know this is old..I have owned several different printers over the years...I just bought a canon ip8720 and was wondering if that is a good printer for a pretty much newbie..

[@PECMS]

Jose, hope this finds you fine. I need a tabloid printer so I can print engineering dwgs in tabloid size so I can correct the dwgs for mistakes, omisions, etc. Im done with plotters (I have 3 HPs full format printer) but the industry is gearing towards submitting pdfs, however a good tabloid always comes handy. Im looking Canon IX 6820. I just trashed another brand tabloid printer and Im looking for the first time into Canon, mainly because your YT channel! any recomendations! Thks for all these videos..

[@cheo1949]

I am a total idiot. What is a tabloid? So you are only printing what I would call line work. What problems did the previous printers cause?

[@karimsahraoui7216]

Thanks a lot for this information I made nearly all the mistakes you talked about but I am stuck with a very serious problem with icc profile for my epson l3060 I tried to find on epson support site but this model is not listed ready don't know what to do I have calibrated my monitor paper choice is correct but stuck with icc profile please help me thanks again for all your support

[@cheo1949]

Well you would either buy profiling equipment and produce your own or... Have a profiling service do that for you. You have to print special files using zero color management on your printer and paper then ship the prints to the profiler for scanning and creating the profile. I do that for only in the USA.

[@karimsahraoui7216]

Jose Rodriguez thanks a lot will try to do but not easy procedures

[@andraegraham9668]

do you make you own ink... thanks for sharing your experience am a young graphic designer who wants to start a printing business, only working with a canon pixma pro 9000.

[@cheo1949]

Lol! No. Inks are made by a few ink labs through out the world by some of the best chemists in the business.

[@Eli-lb1lc]

I just made a very rookie mistake. I unplugged the printer while printing on some very expensive Palo Duro softgloss rag 13x19. Tip: don’t unplug the printer while it is printing because it will stop printing.

[@cheo1949]

Ouch!

[@de-ld2tw]

Hello Jose, excellent videos with knowledge . Good job 👏 This is the first video I watch because I am looking for a printer which can print on alumininum sheet . Can you suggest me a quality printer? Take care

[@cheo1949]

That would be like asking me to suggest a "Good " Car or "Good" TV. What are your complete plans?

[@de-ld2tw]

Jose Rodriguez Thank you for quick response . I am looking for metal sheet (thin sheet) printer or quality method in affordable costing. I have bought metal posters when I was in US. As an artist I want to display my artwork through metal prints. May be A small startup if everything fall in place. They have suggested some printers but before investing I want to talk to expert like you to have full knowledge www.alumajet.com

[@cheo1949]

You would need specially inkjet coated aluminum and a printer that allowed a straight feed path from the front. Printers such as the old 3800 and 3880 from Epson have often been modified for similar work. Other ha. That I have no idea how accomplish this type of printing.. There might be some video demonstrating is type of printing a d you may be able to see the printer. The problem is those printers have been extensively modified and can not just be purchased ready to use.

[@de-ld2tw]

Jose Rodriguez Thank you very much sir.

[@kcender3771]

Jose, newbie here, but you say to use ink on paper and not waste it on the machine doing a routine cleaning cycle as I understand it. What if your print doesn't use all the colors? I assume the machine will push all eight (Canon Pro 100) cartridge nozzles. I'm starting to realize what I have gotten myself into. Yikes!

[@cheo1949]

All colors even when printing BW images will use all colors. Not as much as when printing in color but your very limited available colors are used by compositing and can produce over 16 million colors and hues in all densities. So print and print some more so you actually produce prints. Maintenance cycles will occur regardless of what we do. That ink produces nothing tangible. It simply maintains your print head clean.

[@barclayjb]

Hey Jose, I have a Canon Pixima ip6700 printer that I could not get to work with Windows 10 (Canon does not provide a driver for Windows 10). I have since purchased a Canon Pro-10 and it works fine. Do you know how to get the ip6700 to work on Windows 10 so someone else can use it?

[@cheo1949]

There is too a WINDOWS 10 driver for it: www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/printers/support-inkjet-printer/ip-series/pixma-ip6700d?subtab=downloads-drivers

[@elliotresnick5433]

Hi Jose, can you elaborate on your first point? I'm moving from an all in one printer to a dedicated photo printer, so what is an example of one or two makes and models (I'm using a Mac). Thanks, Elliot

[@cheo1949]

I would pick something along the lines of a Epson P600 or Canon PRO-100. Both capable of 13x19" prints. Both easy to use out of the box. But regardless, you need to first learn the basics of a color managed workflow depending on what your editing app is. You are on a Mac and that alone can be a problem when it comes to managing color as the mac driver tries to do it all for you. Sometimes not exactly what you will need. I know very little about Mac printer drivers. They just do not match the user interface of what I am currently using windows 10. There are videos on KZbin for Mac users that will be helpful!

[@elliotresnick5433]

Yep those two wireless printers were on the top of my list. Is it true the Epson does a better job with matte finish, because I prefer matte vs glossy?

[@cheo1949]

Yes and no. The PRO-100 can indeed produce very good results even on matte media. I have a video on that subject and show actual results. But remember it is a dye printer, so ere is no such thing as dye matte black. The P600 being pigment based contains both PK and MK but has to do the black ink switch.

[@767Marcello]

Hello Jose, my Pro 100 keeps acting up. I use Canon Pro Platinum and the printer keeps getting stuck. I get the stuck paper error time and time again. When a paper finally goes through, the print is off center. My photos get margin on one side only. I am using a brand new iMac, and downloaded the driver from Canon. Please help!

[@cheo1949]

That sounds like something mechanical that canon should address. Platinum is extremely glossy and smooth and depending on the conditions of your rollers that may be a cause. Try a Roller Cleaning utility on the maintenance tab and then try again.

[@767Marcello]

Thanks very much for the quick response Jose. I did the roller cleaning before I wrote you, and maybe because the printer has been off for a few months, after trying over 20 times, finally the paper was coming through.I guess the smooth paper could be the cause, although the profile IS within the specs. What about the off centered prints. Its driving me crazy. Could it be conflicting instructions the managers from driver vs. app? How can I fix it ?

[@767Marcello]

Downloaded ICC profiles and Canon Pro Print... apparently all is fixed !! The canon Platinum still won't go through, but I printed on Epson Metallic Glossy, which seems smoother, with outstanding results.

[@tomgee887]

Hi Jose does the Canon original CLI-42 yellow ink cart have to be flushed I plan to get a starter refill kit from octoinkjet.I bought the pro 100 with two sets of ink I plan to refill the used carts just worried about the yellow cart read on some sites that it has to be flushed.but I thought if I have the original oem cart then it is not requiredThank You in advanceTom G Scotland

[@cheo1949]

Octoinkjet says their yellow ink does not react adversely with original am yellow ink. Do check with them first before you chose.

[@solitarysandpiper8491]

I'm confused regarding colour management... in my version of lightroom/photoshop you either let the application manage the colour or the printer, i don't see how you can end up with both conflicting with each other? and besides there doesn't seem to be a obvious option available to turn off the printer colour management independently?... Canon pro100s

[@cheo1949]

You must on mac? If on Windows you can control color on both driver and app.

[@solitarysandpiper8491]

@@cheo1949 Thank you for the reply, you must be very busy!... i'm on windows actually but can't find an obvious way to check that the driver isn't interfering with the apps colour management except to say my results are really quite amazing when printing either way!... still it would be nice to know where to look, just for peace of mind.

[@cheo1949]

Sure you can. On a Canon printer you would have to go to the printer preferences and then on the main tab page click on color / intensity manual adjustment then the matching Tab and then choose none or choose ICM. It depends whether you want to have the printer control color or not interfere at all. When you choose none then you allow the application to control color. On an Epson printer it would be a similar but easier way. There you just basically disable color management either on or off but never both the driver and the editing application.

[@solitarysandpiper8491]

@@cheo1949 ... Again Thank you Jose, You guided me there (i had found my way to that particular area before in my search but never clicked on the matching tab) i have three options there ; 1, Driver matching. 2, icc profile matching. 3, none. it is on Driver matching by default which i would leave it on if i want the printer to manage and i guess either of the other 2 if i want the app to manage?

[@tonyronczyk6888]

Hey Jose, I bought a used Epson 7800 and downloaded the driver set from the epson website, Ok i cannot find in the printer setting how to turn off the printer color control, can you help!

[@cheo1949]

MAC or Windows?

[@tonyronczyk6888]

Windows 10,

[@tonyronczyk6888]

I appreciate it, i just cant figure out where they hid it

[@cheo1949]

As a first thought you actually manually size your loaded image. Are you using the PSP plug in in Photoshop or in Lightroom? Are you saying there is not Layout options in your PSP interphase?

[@tonyronczyk6888]

I manually size, and i can adjust the paper size on the printer since its 24in, but in the printer driver setting i dont see a way to turn off the color control like you showed for the Pro 100

[@techstudios4211]

Why I see dots on my prints? specially on skin areas? and Epson SureLab D700 (Lab Printer) - res: 1440x720dpi, Droplet Size:2.5 pl, Ink Set: 6 colors. will it print better than a home photo printer like "Epson Expression Photo XP-8500" - res: 5760x1440 dpi, Droplet Size:1.5 pl, Ink Set: 6 colors. If then why? because home printer shows better spec here.

[@cheo1949]

I have no idea why. I have neither one of those two models to be able to answer why. I assume by DOTS you mean ink dots.

[@techstudios4211]

@@cheo1949 Ok thanks. And yes ink dots.

[@DaveMovold]

too funny ! :)

[@cheo1949]

Funny but sad!

[@paulbeerman6736]

Jose, I am using the Pro 100 , and I have ordered my precision profile inks and am ready to start my reloading, but I while reviewing one of your prior vidoes from 6/2/2016 on how to reset and refill cartridges, you said that after you refill, you could or should ? use the precision color profiles when printing. But , does that mean that I will not use the profile I have downloaded such as the Red River profile for say their gloss paper? Does precision color have profiles for all manufacturers papers?. I am sure I am confused and misunderstanding, but I know you can clear this up for me.Thanks in advanceLove your videos.

[@cheo1949]

It will take you about 2-3 refills to assure that you are now printing with 100% PC inks. Prior to that you will still have a mix of the two inks sets in the sponge. EXCEPT FOR YELLOW! Once you have filled about three times then you can use the D50 profiles for the papers listed. Don't forget to turn off Color Matching to NONE in the PRO-100 driver as I show in the videos. If you are on a MAC and you tell your Editing APP to control color it will automatically turn that off in the driver. At least I think that's how it works on a MAC. If on Windows, you have to turn it to none manually.

[@paulbeerman6736]

I see, so use precision color profiles D50 for the papers they have profiles for, and I assume for the ones not listed, use the ICC profiles I downloaded from their paper site. I ask, because per your suggestion on prior video, I have bought a number of different sample paper packs to try that are not listed on the precision profile list. Thanks for the response. I will be spending a few hours over the next few days, refilling my carts as you outline in your videos.

[@cheo1949]

D50 is your standard, notice that there are other profiles that have been adjusted to compensate for different illuminant's color temperatures. So use the D50 once you are printing with 100% PC inks. For papers that are not listed, you really can not expect to get perfect results using the manufacturer's profiles as those were created using OEM inks. Regardless of any claims, NO third party ink set can match OEM 100% if they did they would be guilty of patent infraction. So for any"OTHER" papers you would need a custom profile to get a good match for that paper.

[@paulbeerman6736]

go toI see, but for papers without a Precision Color profile, where would go to download a custom profile? Or, perhaps, just use the company's profiles in that case, and have one less thing to be concerned about until/and if my 'eye' can differentiate colors and resolution differences resulting from using precision color ink rather than OEM inks?

[@cheo1949]

You have to make it yourself which means you will need a tool like the X-Rite Colormunki Photo. Using PC inks has nothing to do with the apparent resolution of your prints. But rather the color matching and that can only be achieved through the use of the correct ICC profile. So as long as you are using the papers for which PC provides free profiles for ( and custom made profiles can cost you from $25 to $100 from private Profile producers ) are made you can be assured to have a good match and result. But remember that nothing is or will ever be perfect.