Top 10 PlayStation RPGs - Part 2 *No Final Fantasy Games*

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[@davidvinc]

Like this page and what I do here? Consider supporting me on patreon! www.patreon.com/davidvinc [0:35] - 20) Legend of Dragoon [1:49] - 19) Beyond the Beyond [2:43] - 18) Breath of Fire 3 [3:32] - 17) The Arc the Lad Trilogy [4:39] - 16) Saiyuki: Journey West [5:30] - 15) Tales of Phantasia [6:32] - 14) Guardian's Crusade [7:31] - 13) Thousand Arms [8:29] - 12) Wild Arms [9:35] - 11) Lunar 2: Eternal Blue

[@RC-ve8dl]

Lunar 2 should be higher. You cant beat a party that includes a gambling priest and a gypsy martial artist.

[@matthewobrien5925]

Personally think Suikoden/Suikoden 2 should be higher on list.

[@loverofbigdookies]

thank you for this!! As Ive stated before, I love your videos, but they can be tough to navigate. One thing I would consider if I were you, is leaving the title of the game in the corner of the screen while youre on it. You generally only mention the name of the game one time before you begin telling us about it. If im not fully engaged 100% i end up rewinding a lot. But this summary list helps me a ton to go out and find the games I want haha.

[@Gurasola]

Honestly I'd love to see a Top 10 Tactical Strategy RPGs list from you for the PS1. That genre had quite a few interesting games throughout its life cycle: Vandal Hearts, Tactics Ogre, Rhapsody, Vanguard Bandits, Kartia, Brigadine, Hoshigami, the Front Mission games, and likely some others that I've missed here.

[@makeshift_battlefield_music]

I love Front Mission games

[@toolman4745]

Yes please! I love tactical RPGs. Arc the Lad as well.

[@darkholyPL]

I'm kind of sad you didn't put Valkyrie Profile in neither of those 2 lists. An absolute gem in my eyes.

[@damonholden8572]

@Tucker Axton yea, I have been watching on instaflixxer for years myself :D

[@crosbytristen1153]

@Tucker Axton yup, been using InstaFlixxer for years myself =)

[@marcvincenzo430]

@Tucker Axton Yea, have been watching on InstaFlixxer for since november myself :D

[@mathiasjayson676]

@Tucker Axton Yea, have been watching on instaflixxer for years myself :D

[@Demogarose]

Having just finished watching (read: binge-ing) your Wild Arms 1 LP, I was surprised not to see it in your top 10, glad to see it here. WA1 and Legend Of Legaia are my childhood JRPGs, and I'd LOVE to see you do a LP of Legaia some time.

[@AyeThatsHandsomePete]

Thanks for a new video David! You’re the best!

[@Elgordowarcraft]

Love your videos man keep' em coming

[@MrFaceNumeroUno]

Hey David! Great vid, very dear to my heart! 10/10! Thanks for the content! Hope you're staying safe!

[@kurisu7885]

It heartens mt to see Thousand Arms mentioned as that was one of my favorites back in the PS1 days.

[@nanoglitch6693]

Really glad that you revisited some of the series from the first vid with their sequels/prequels. Lunar 2 would've been right up there next to the first one on my list but I can understand that you wanted to keep the lists more diverse and cover more series :)

[@KatieOtten]

I would give anything for the third Lunar game too!!! ♡ It's my favorite series of all time!

[@CrazyFriendlyGamerAlex]

Same here^^

[@seguise7868]

The dialogue to the Lunar Silver Star Story was top notch, but I was disappointed by how short the game was. Still, so many good factors of this game from the storyline, to the music, and characters. Gameplay not so much fun though

[@jzblue345]

They did have a third lunar game but it was bad really bad. It's called Lunar Dragon Song and it totally blows. I love the second Lunar game it was my # 2 of all time behind Xenogears.

[@KatieOtten]

@@jzblue345 oh yeah, that game is terrible!

[@epic8088]

@@KatieOtten I personally like Eternal Blue more than Silver Star Story.

[@NemesisTomato]

Wild ARMs was my first Playstation RPG. I LOVE that game. The opening song was also the first MP3 I ever downloaded - it's so beautiful. Lunar 2? Yeah. That belongs in the high rankings of a best of PSX list.

[@gamerji-li4755]

I loved Legend of Dragoon already, but I definitely would love a remaster/remake of it!! I need to get on playing many of those other titles mentioned! I love the tales series but don't have any of the ps1 ones.

[@XionSteel]

good timing on this video since i contemplated going through my backlog of ps1 games to check through

[@tapakvajra1939]

david your volume sound need a bit higher, compare to ads from youtube your volume around 45% of it, and I use full volume still struggle to hear.

[@blazeknight4120]

Always. I just attributed that to him being soft spoken, but, I think you are right. A higher mic volume would be helpful.

[@jowellgamingshow6907]

I agree! I thought I was the only one. Always have to turn up to max volume on my phone and still he sounds like lol.

[@Omglikeitsmehere]

Good list! I really enjoy your videos!

[@Tzadeck]

When I was 11 my mom bought me a Playstation and the shop owner recommended Wild Arms, so she bought it. So, my first RPG and first Playstation game were both Wild Arms. Left an impression on me for sure.

[@Artimes.]

One of the greatest things about Dragoon though is its huge diversity in locales spread across the game. I mean FF VII remake is going to be a great game, but Dragoon's world in my opinion just far exceeds any rpg in variation of world design. It comes very close to Skies of arcadia in my opinion.

[@yungjroc5193]

the game is so unique w its atmosphere and battle system i need a REMASTER

[@Artimes.]

@@yungjroc5193 Mainly i am speaking in terms of the different design philosophies incorporated into the world design. I would love to see something like this being remade in the modern era. Hell there is so many great classic rpgs that i would love to see remade. But i think some of them have so much variation that it would probably end up being an impossible task to do unless you create a project like FF VII with an ambitious but multiple episodic series.

[@neblettadam]

Love the list. SOOOOOO many memories.

[@wolfgang999]

what about another list with adventure RPG's ? brave fencer musashi is a must on that list :D , btw excelent work !! subscribed just to watch later the "rpgs for busy adults" XD

[@agenildocosta8041]

I'm revisiting these games on my psvita and I am loving it❤😊

[@Deadspace-q2m]

Beyond the beyond was nostalgic for me. It was the first rpg I played on ps1

[@Heivrach]

So glad you included Guardians Crusade I keep feeling like the only person who has ever played it.

[@Somarinoa]

Holy carp, someone else knows about and LIKES Guardian Crusade?? I had SO much fun with that game! I still talk highly about it in my modern nerdy talk. You hit the nail on the head with this one, David!

[@geezy6140]

Guardians crusade was so chill! The music was dope too. Hell yea man thanks for this lol 🙌

[@Revoltriot]

This second list deviates a little more in my opinion, but it's still a good selection! Thousand Arms is a gem on its own. When I first played it, I thought it would be just a generic anime title, but it was more than that. The humor it's the leading factor on this game and once you're into it, you'll really enjoy your time with the characters, which are stereotypes found on animes or, in resume, are relatable and funny. The dating system was a new experience for me at the time and it proved itself as a plus, with the addition of humor we see in the rest of the game also included in this segment.

[@CrazyFriendlyGamerAlex]

6:36 I've started playing this game just recently and I love it.....everything in this game:D

[@themindofsam]

Beyond the Beyond is the reason I fell in love w/ the Ps1. I haven't looked back since.

[@SouprFly]

Great list. I should really dig into a lot of these games, Lunar 2 and Beyond the Beyond pique my interest.

[@willis3rik]

Great videos!

[@tikkusircar7704]

I really like all the deep cuts David mentions

[@ShadowWolfRising]

20: It needs a return, it was a cool game with a cool setting. 19: Ah Camelot...Tony Taka does not come remotely close to your brilliance. 18: This is one of the best JRPGs ever made, It needs a remake. And we need a Breath of Fire 6, which definitely hasn't been made yet. 17: Another awesome series that needs to be brought back. 16: I have this game, it's weird and crazy and That is to it's advantage. Really wish Koei would revisit their non Warriors games already. Like say, a Kessen taking place in the Orochi series. 15: I have the GBA version, it's goofiness is amusing. I also love that one patch for the PS1 version with all the foul language, that one is hilarious. 14: I remember renting this one a few times, I love it's bizarre setting and premise (Hey look, a recurring theme in my opinions.). 13: This was goofy as hell, but it DID have some really good ideas. 12: I used to own this one as well, classic, mixing JRPGs and Western Setting, such a unique and well executed concept. Really wish this series would come back, HINT HINT SONY. 11: I have this, One of my favorite aspects of this game is it following up one the whole "We don't need Gods, We very fallible and corrupt humans will surely not fuck everything up." typical ending to many JRPGs/Anime and deconstructs the HELL out of it, and I love it for that. I will always remember Zophar as the villain who looked at that cliche and overused trope by going "I'm about to ruin this man's whole career.".

[@danielpintogouveia5862]

My favorite playstation game of all time is Breath of fire 3. I bought it after i beat FF7 and wanted more of the same, scratch that jrpg itch. Saw pictures of it in a magazine, loved the graphics and got it. I was 13 at the time. Never beat it back then. Have done it twice as an adult and just beat it my second time last week. This time i also did the fishing side q which was alot of fun. Love everything about it. Good difficulty, good and engaging story which starts of innocent and slow, but i like that. Keep up the good work David :)

[@Tokusatsunerd80]

my gaming childhood! oh man i'm having flashbacks now,good times

[@quaasar1247]

Finally, someone who agrees that Legend of Dragoon isn't the greatest thing ever. Nice to hear that and not be treated like a pariah.

[@Morbutt]

Yes, people only rave about the game because it was a big-budget RPG that wasn't Final Fantasy. Completely forgettable game.

[@ryanisbelle6107]

@@Morbutt How about you just speak for yourself, instead of trying to dictate why other people say the things they do. Maybe they just have a different opinion than you. I don't rank it as my favorite RPG of all time, but it certainly is better than Breath of Fire 3. It is kind of funny that item management drives a lot of people crazy, but a grindfest like BOF3 somehow is not tedious. One requires strategy, the other requires a turbo button.....

[@Morbutt]

@@ryanisbelle6107 isn't that what I did? Sounds like you're insecure.

[@ryanisbelle6107]

@@Morbutt Please tell me more about why I rave about this game. I love hearing my opinion come from someone else.

[@Morbutt]

@@ryanisbelle6107 please tell me how I'm forcing my opinion on others. Moron.

[@ultraness]

I'm sad that Valkyrie Profile was passed over again, as I like it a lot more than any game on this list and most the games on the first list (I think it's way better than Star Ocean 2). Lunar 2 is great, though, and I wish it had been on the previous list instead of Lunar 1. I think that Legend of Dragoon is still undeserving of being in the top 20, as Valkyrie Profile, Chrono Cross, both Persona 2 games, Suikoden 1, Vagrant Story, Front Mission 3, and Threads of Fate are eight more PS1 RPGs I like more than Legend of Dragoon.

[@ManillaHeep]

Same Chrono Cross deserves a spot.

[@Gumbocinno]

I can't recommend the Lunar SSSC and Lunar 2 EB enough. The 2 of them are absolutely fucking beautiful.

[@DJsawyer87520]

Very Nice Top 20 PlayStation RPG Very Great Videos :) My Least Favorite Xenogears & Thousand Arms & Arc The Lad & Brave Fencer Musashi & Threads Of Fate & Star Ocean The Second Story & Lunar Silver Star Story & Lunar 2 Eternal Blue & Grandia & Lengend Of Mama & Tales Of Destiny 1 & 2 & Wild Arms 2 & Breath Of Fire 3 & 4" & Thousand Arms :)

[@Snorlagg]

Another game that I thought was pretty good for the Playstation was Kodelka. It has it's problems but I found it to be very fun and enjoyable despite it's issues.

[@lubenretrolletarios7901]

i hope that you categorize alundra as an action adventure, otherwise it would be criminal to dont put it even in your 20 best list.

[@felman87]

Fancy that, I'm playing Legend of Dragoon right now on my Vita. My buddy and I were talking about RPGs and he mentioned that he used to stay up late with friends playing it. Granted, he wasn't the biggest fan of the game. He complained about the addition system. I'm kind of the same way. I think if there's a remake, they should borrow the Judgement Ring system from Shadow Hearts.

[@yungjroc5193]

the addition system is what MAKES the game lol its super unique and works so good idk how hes complaining about the parts of the game that makes it stand OUT from the rest of the RPGs lol

[@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725]

thanks for introducing me to tales of phantasia

[@KTF0]

The only games I didn't play on the list was Beyond the Beyond and Saiyuki. I remember trying to find Beyond in VG stores, but, couldn't back in the day. Both look like beautiful games. Unfortunately I don't have a PS anymore.

[@ericb31]

Thousand arms is the game that introduced me to Atlus. My favorite game company of all time!

[@ethanhunt3242]

The throwback nature to Beyond the Beyond is what originally drew me to Beyond the Beyond, but I have simply never played another JRPG that enraged me as much as that game. I still dont know how or why I muscled through it to the end usually if Im not enjoying a thing I just stop playing... like Legend of Dragoon. lol

[@epic8088]

If you liked Beyond the Beyond, you should love the Golden Sun games.

[@epic8088]

So, I refrained from commenting on the first vid, as you pointed out there was a second, and I still feel like there are titles not given enough credit. Legend of Mana, Chrono Cross, Vagrant Story, Brigandine, Valkyrie Profile, Saga Frontier, Vandal Hearts, Parasite Eve. I understand that it's hard to make a top list, as you including any of these means you exclude something you have listed, which would honestly default to that title being on my list, and it would be an endless cycle of "why not X vs Y?" I do however believe that the games I've listed are underated, as I rarely see them get included on a top list. Edit: maybe instead of making a top list, you could make a recommendation list. It's easy to make a video saying "give this one a shot" vs "X is better than Y"

[@Ric_93]

Super early ! Found your channel yesterday and I love your videos 🙌🏻 new sub

[@lifeloverNorris]

Oh boy, I see you're one of those who hated Chrono Cross. Since Legend of Dragoon is at your no. 20 and it sounds like you really dislike it, does that mean you also don't like Chrono Cross, Valkyrie's Profile, Vagrant Story and Parasite Eve?

[@ff8masterc]

Guardian's Crusade (Knight and Baby) is one of my favourite games of all time. Besides earthbound, does anyone have any recommendations for similar games?

[@davidvinc]

PoPoLoCrois for the PSP immediately comes to mind.

[@ff8masterc]

@@davidvinc Awesome, I was thinking of giving it a go anyways as you've had high praise for it.

[@marcosabadsanchez6036]

OOOHHH, Saiyuki really surprised me, if you like that tactital rpg stuff i recomend it. And Lunar Eternal Blue, what a game, unforgettable.

[@Agju]

i still have the pendant that came with the Lunar 2 box set

[@David_Alvarez77]

Good to see Legend of Dragoon where it is. Number 20 is about as high as I would give Legend of Dragoon. It is not a bad game, but it's seriously overrated. I might have put Valkyrie Profile or from Mission 3 instead, but this is still a good list.

[@ajfish511]

im sure tons will disagree with me on this but Shadow Madness should def be up there.

[@truepatriot3768]

Wow 999 likes let me make it 1000 😁😁

[@icefire2626]

I know this video is old but you have really good taste in RPGs that lot and I mean lot over look now days because there over shadow by modern RPGs like final fantasy and its remakes these lost gems are how RPGs should be made as.

[@staren1991]

as one who has only played the gba version... why is the PS version of ToP so much better?

[@Deadspace-q2m]

The item limit is the worst thing for me in legend of dragoon

[@greedkingcobalt200]

Grinding any real amount of money early on is _EXCRUCIATING,_ even if you use the sigil stone on the birds outside the first major town. Also Lavitz >>> Albert

[@lifeloverNorris]

I like it because I've always thought RPG shouldn't allow you grind to infinite and stock up 99 potions and win like that. It forces you to think and prioritize what you want to bring along, what kind of healing consumables, what battle items, etc.

[@yungjroc5193]

how have i beated this game twice and never even notice there was an item limit lmao definitely because you don't need 99 of each items to beat a game LOL

[@jonp1952]

@@yungjroc5193 I noticed an item limit, as I did have to trash some items every so often, but it wasn't anything that killed me as the items weren't even necessary for most fights. I feel like the person who made this video just hated the fact that it was more complicated/difficult than most games. The story of Legend of Dragoon to me was probably where it shined the most. It told it's story better than any other game I can think of.

[@CrazyFriendlyGamerAlex]

9:37 awww, I love this game and I've beaten it 4 times.....and I can't get enough every time I beat it:D And so much voice acting^^

[@kenshinhimura8708]

Guardian’s Crusade is one of the best RPG’s on the PSX. Like most it doesn’t get the love it deserves.

[@Genethagenius]

I like the addition system in “Legend of Dragoon” but the timing DEFINITELY needs work! I personally like things like that that try new things with turn-based battle systems like SMT’s Press Turn system or “Legend of Legaia’s” AWESOME battle system! It’s sad that Sony has let both “Legaia” and “Dragoon” IP’s lay dormant.

[@urdad1984]

"Nobody wants every battle to be a QTE..." me, a Xenoblade fan: yyyyyyyea, ummmmm right

[@urdad1984]

@@jord_yy I agree. Im usually not a fan of QTEs in games period but the ones in XC series have never bothered me or took away from the battles

[@jonp1952]

@@jord_yy Legend of Dragoon was also seemless. The battles flowed quite perfectly imo, and the attacks matched perfectly to the character's motions. Mastering Gust of Wind Dance, Madness Hero, Demon's Dance, and other additions just felt so rewarding.

[@X-Cutioner]

Alundra, Chrono Cross, Persona 2: Eternal Punishmet, Vagrant Story, Valkyrie Profile??

[@fangthedergon1863]

It is your right to have your own opinion but your just wrong about Legend of the Dragoon and the transformations are extremely useful if they are used properly

[@yungjroc5193]

yup sounds like we played a different game then him lmao the transformations are dumb OP if u know how to use em

[@StewNWT]

I love you David but how do you not have the original and still the best Suikoden 1 in your top 20 PS1 rpgs?

[@MellorineKnight]

Both Legend of Dragoon and FFVIII has issues, many many issues. Still the ost, the world and the style of these games are some things that I will never forget.

[@HDREconomist]

So, I'm one of the people who actually liked the Sega CD version of Lunar 2 better than the PSX version because I really loved the Magic XP system. With that being said, Lunar 2 is brilliant and if it couldn't be on the first top 10 list, topping the second one is perfect. Also, I don't know that Lunar 3 would be Lunar 3 without a Working Designs localization and they've been gone for so long that putting it back together would be I think impossible.

[@josepartida1711]

I always hear complaints about Beyond the Beyond and then I hear some people like it. Goes to show you that you can’t please everyone. I myself am surprised to know that people favor FF8 over FF7!!! Oh well...nice video David. And yes a new Lunar would be a dream 👍

[@UliZombie04]

I will die happy when LoD gets a remake I love Legend of Dragoon with a passion

[@blancfan1]

OH my god your complaints bout Legend of Dragoon are so full of crap.

[@yungjroc5193]

thats what i said lmao literally his complaints are what MAKES LOG a unique game and masterpiece

[@lablueguy2000]

i did not finish legend of dragoon because it was linear. i like to explore.

[@MajorTeag]

For anyone that says that Guardian's Crusade shouldn't be up there because it's focused to kids. I bet many of them play Pokemon, which is focused to kids as well. Kinda hypocritical to say that for those people. And yes, I agree that we need a Lunar 3, but only if they can get the whole team back together. We saw what happened last time they made a new one without them. So sad that Working Designs is gone forever.

[@lindseymorrison2012]

I didn't expect my name to show up at the 00:41 mark, lol

[@robotrigger3467]

Threads of Fate is also a good Action RPG too..

[@chrisgee8441]

Everyone deserves there opinion, and we all have different tastes, but maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan... I could always be playing Legend of Dragoon...

[@MiamiSunrise]

Fantastic list! Truth be told I was not a huge fan of Wild Arms 1 at all especially on release. I had played FF7 before I tried the first Wild Arms and hated the in-battle character models of WA. I barely touched the game and never gave it a real chance even since then. I feel that that was a crippling mistake because I have since gotten use to the retro 3D character designs of all sorts of games now. I unfairly compared it to what FF7 was at the time and now must repent lol. It is a game I need to go back to!

[@egregiousarts6088]

Did that enemy take a shit at 1:03 ???

[@UNGGodYT]

- facepalm - i should have watch this before commenting on the previous . good job .

[@sylent19851]

Ofmg!!! Legend of Dragoon, Breath of Fire 3, and wild arms Lunar 2 are not ranked higher???!!!. I'm curious to see what are the top 10.

[@BYERE]

While I agree on the item limit part, at least the addition system was a (somewhat) easy fix. Not long into the game... and with a bit of money grinding... you can buy Wargod Talismans from the town where the fighting arena is, which completely negate the quick-time feature and automatically complete additions. Like you, I'm awful at timings, but at least that part of the game was bearable... even if it costs you your character's accessory slots (though to be fair, there are no other good accessories in the game) My biggest complaint with the game was the seriously high amount of translation errors. Almost every other big dialogue moment is marred by poor translation dubbing.

[@mmpsp693]

Still waiting for the Top 5 Saturn RPG

[@The_Wandering_Nerd]

How about the Top 1 Nintendo 64 RPG?

[@mistahkrazy805]

I loved Guardian's Crusade!!!

[@elbowdeep]

I love breath of fire 3 so much :)

[@yangofice8361]

ARC THE LADDDDDDDD BOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Some of the best music out there too

[@Mr3DLC]

This gonna sound crazy but i think ff13 trilogy could be salvaged into a passable game For starters it never should have been a mainline title

[@yungjroc5193]

legends of dragoon at 20 lmao its battle system is what makes it better then the rest; also the atmosphere and character development is on par w the best final fantasy easy i would pay 500$ for a remaster lol; how have i beaten LOG 2x also and never notice the item limit? yeah cause it doesn't do anything that alters the game lmaoo

[@loto5919]

Top 10 this Top 10 that Top 10 hit me with a wiffle ball bat.

[@Zanji1234]

tbh... the battle system in Legend of Dragoon was okay for me (still the Dragon Form was ... not good implemented)... but the STORY was kinda... meh

[@yungjroc5193]

did we play the same game? LOL the story/ character development makes this game even that much better

[@ryanisbelle6107]

I think I understand why he doesn't like Legend of Dragoon as much as other games. It's just a guess, but I'm assuming that he has become very accustomed to playing these old RPGs on emulators. Emulators make it very easy to grind in RPGs thanks to their turbo buttons. But with things like Legend of dragoon's item capacity and addition system, turbo button really does no good in making the game go faster. I would really like to know if he has ever beaten the game, because I can picture him trying to cheese it on an emulator, getting frustrated, and having that affect his review.

[@davidvinc]

No, I played it when it first came out on the original PlayStation, it was mediocre then and it still is now.

[@cam9144]

I love Beyond the Beyond.

[@CaptainRedbeard8316]

I thought tales of destiny was the first, loved that game

[@mattshark7665]

Hearing about the Arc the Lad package and crying in European

[@MoreAwsomeMetal]

What? No Valkyrie Profile? No Vagrant Story? No Legend of Mana? No Chrono Cross? No Alundra?

[@r.a.fgattaiguy845]

there´s complaining and the there´s "let me present a shopping list of me bitching" complaining

[@MoreAwsomeMetal]

@@r.a.fgattaiguy845 shopping list? Those five games are universally acclaimed masterpieces RPG of the PS1, both by the amateurs and the press (and probably even by yourself!). How could games such as Beyond the Beyond or BoF3 be on this list and not the previous one? (they're good, make no mistakes, but are they masterpieces as the one I've quoted?)

[@r.a.fgattaiguy845]

@@MoreAwsomeMetal because not everyone has the same sheep taste you have "durr the press thinks it´s a masterpiece durr" are you 10? so you want everyone to have the same taste in games? he already explained why he thinks Valkyrie Profile and Chrono Cross are not in his favorites too and stop using the term masterpiece, all those games have problems just like any other game

[@phoenix_force_9867]

Beyond the Beyond always has a place in my heart. I thought the battle system was pretty cool, the villans and hidden characters are cool!

[@VitaEx]

Lol breath of fire 3 is one of my fav games for those specific reasons

[@light11591]

Brave Fencer Musashi and popolocrois 2

[@mrzepher2539]

Surprised you never mentioned the god awful desert of death when talking about Breath of fire

[@fukngroovnkc3700]

"Having to power through" L.O.D. isnt quite fair, not counting the last couple disks the first part of the game gives off top notch 90's pre rendered gorgeousness,& the music is nothing short of astounding, it hits your feelings like a FF6 score

[@JohnSmith-hs1hn]

Legend of Dragoon has very poor pacing. I liked what they did with the story towards the end, though.

[@jarvistech7408]

Beyond the beyond doesn't suck because of difficulty. The only reason I can't stand to play it is because the encounter rate SUCKS! WAY TO HIGH!

[@Agju]

shitting all over Beyond the Beyond isn't a new thing lol....i remember it being that way from the beginning

[@Trampflick]

Glad dragoon was so low on the list. I found that game so repetitive in it's formula. Go to a dungeon, get a new character, find there armour ability. Grind them out. Use their super moves to beat the boss. Rinse and repeat 6 more times. I stopped after I got redundant pink armour dude.

[@JohnsonJJohnson33]

Dude the final boss is an absolute chore. Still to this day, I refuse to go back and attempt to beat it due to there being such a shortage of recovery items and gold to spend

[@JohnsonJJohnson33]

@@jord_yy I can sort of see why with the transformations and the battle system when it came out, but after a solid playthrough it wasn't the best. It's a fun game, but tends to be too complicated

[@nanoglitch6693]

@@jord_yy Feels like there's been a trend the last few years of people over-hyping some of the more "meh" jrpgs. Like how ff8 suddenly became so many peoples favorite in the series. Feels like the gaming equivalent of the hipster movement imo.

[@nanoglitch6693]

@@jord_yy I couldn't even finish ff8 when it was shiny and new lol. Really bummed me out since I was all excited and looking forward to it after playing ff6 and 7. But man...that draw/junction system was such a confusing slog and I just couldn't stand ANY of the characters. I tried a few times to force myself through it but the furthest I ever got was disc 2.

[@Trampflick]

@@nanoglitch6693 Agreed; and the towns were an absolute slog to get though.