Top 10 Ways To Remove The Military Primer Crimp From Your Brass Before Reloading

[@lilbitofeverything5801]

I rarely take the time to comment on videos, but this one deserves it. Great video, tons of useful info!! I even got a chuckle or two along the way. Thanks!

[@DummyRound]

Thank ya, sir! I greatly appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment 👍👊🇺🇸

[@Johnny-jr2lq]

These videos are great and the stuff your pointing out is so true. I remember 5 years ago when I had the great thought I’m going to reload. I went out spent about 700 dollars on a press and some other stuff that I now realize I didn’t need. Then started to watch KZbin videos created by the famous suspects we all know and love. Welp 5 years later and A LOT of videos later I’m finally reloading 9mm 223/556 and 308 with confidence. I’m also casting & powder coating a lot of my own projectiles. It was a long and interesting journey that to be honest I personally would do all over again. However I will say this you have to really enjoy shooting to get into reloading and casting. It’s definitely not for everyone but I like it so I’m glad it wasn’t a waste of time for me

[@DummyRound]

That's awesome, thanks for the comments! You've probably been loading longer than I have. I've gotten into a lot of different hobbies before, but this one is on a whole other level of fun and addicting🤣

[@mckwilly]

good deal, I currently use a counter sink drill bit, makes quick work of it

[@DummyRound]

That sounds mighty fine!

[@leehuntley189]

I've used a Phillips bit! The impact one in a drill works great

[@DummyRound]

@leehuntley189 nice!

[@TinManReloading]

I just use a new primer to swage my pockets 😁 Just kidding, dont do that 🤣 Great vid!

[@DummyRound]

I've heard a guy actually argue that point. "This way, I know they're not loose pockets" 🙃😆🙃

[@jh5869]

That’s very creative! I use the Lyman kit. I love the way everything fits inside.

[@DummyRound]

It's got every tool you actually need, and when I eventually get a case prep center, I can use all of those attachments on it and not have to get anything else but the Lee trimmer adapter. 👍🇺🇸👊

[@jh5869]

@@DummyRound you’re going to love a case prep center, but it doesn’t speed it up like I was expecting. But, it’s all right there. When you’re done, the case is ready to load.

[@DummyRound]

I really just want convenience and better work flow, not necessarily lightning speed. Sounds just about perfect 👌

[@DTWCT]

Did 500 pieces of 223 on my Lyman case prep center. Not the fastest but gets the job done

[@DummyRound]

Case prep center is on my list, especially one I can trim on. I'm sick of handling the brass once for each step of prep. I want to size it and get everything else done in one swoop. Thanks for watching 🇺🇸👍👊

[@DTWCT]

@@DummyRound I hear that. I have the WFT trimmer in a drill right next to the prep center so after swaging and sizing they get a quick trim, chamfer, debur then back in the tumbler to remove the case lube. I suppose next time I can do the swaging after sizing

[@DummyRound]

@@DTWCT sounds like you've got it down 👍

[@sawdustwhisper9397]

You only have to do it once tho which is a good thing.

[@DummyRound]

Bingo!

[@Dougwoz1]

This is the most informative I've seen in a long time, good job.

[@DummyRound]

Thanks!

[@markoharoldoronearmedpoohb7816]

I bought the Dillion years ago, never looked back, not fast, but steady and does a very good job, if your in a hurry and need to do it fast, Stop right there and sell your Handloading Equipment, being in a hurry Handloading will get you in trouble eventually!

[@DummyRound]

That's right! I just ream mine out at this point.

[@Billbobaker]

Nothing better than getting two birds stoned at once.

[@DummyRound]

It saves a lot of time!

[@Ruteger100]

I like the "whine like a little girl until my wife does it for me" approach. It seems to workand I lost my dignity long ago so it's a win for me! I get so few these days.

[@DummyRound]

Take the wins where you can get em!

[@jamespollard1670]

That was good , you covered most of the different ways .

[@DummyRound]

I definitely missed a bunch, but these are some of the more popular ones I seem to hear about or get suggested more often than not. Which method do you prefer using? Thanks 👊👍🇺🇸

[@jamespollard1670]

@@DummyRound I have a Hornady case prep duo . I ream them with the chamfer tool . It only takes about a second per case . It is the fastest way I've found to do it .

[@jamespollard1670]

@@DummyRound I put this video on the reloaders section of discord . A few guys were asking about removing primer crimps .

[@DummyRound]

That sounds like a great option. I'm looking for a full case prep center so I can size as well and only handle the brass once.

[@DummyRound]

Awesomeness, hopefully somebody finds it helpful. Thanks for sharing 🇺🇸

[@NOTSOSLIMJIM]

Literally just started loading. Just started priming some 223 and 5.56 I converted to 300blk. Just came across this issue about an hour ago. What I came up with in the heat of the moment, was to just run my de-burring tool in the pocket. Worked like a charm.

[@DummyRound]

Yessir, piece of cake!

[@krisgreenwood5173]

I used to do that. I now swage to make sure the walls of the primer pocket are straight. I have found that crimped brass primer pockets are not perfectly straight from top to bottom.

[@NOTSOSLIMJIM]

@@krisgreenwood5173 I bought a few different swaggers. I couldn't get the consistency I wanted out of the pockets.

[@glockguy4127]

Swagging is better for most folks. Lots of options. Seen several folks new to reloading go overboard and make brass that would not hold a primer. Between time and brass an expensive lesson. Just really love the deburrer? Get a primer pocket go/no go gage. They also show primer pocket depth at the same time.

[@NOTSOSLIMJIM]

@glockguy4127 already have go/nogo sets. It is still far fast and easier for me to cut the crimps out. Never had an issue with over cutting the pocket. Unlike swagging.

[@Jerry-dk8se]

I used to have the Lyman multi tool for removing the crimps. But after getting my Lyman brass prep center, that's my primary method. I also have the RCBS swaging tool, but haven't used it as much as the prep center.

[@DummyRound]

I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a case prep center, they just keep going up in cost with everything else!

[@thegeneral1100]

When I started reloading in 1970 I used a pocket knife with great results. Then I found out RCBS made a swagger tool to do it with (this was way before KZbin). It’s as handy as a second pocket on a shirt!

[@DummyRound]

Yessir! Many ways to skin this cat👍🇺🇲

[@SuperCinemaCraft]

I deprimed and swaged about 600 .223/556 brass with the RCBS primer pocket swaging kit-2 and it went very smoothly. Right in my single stage. Also broke about 3 pins trying to deprime with the sizing die... Then bought the Lee universal decapping tool and bent that within 50 cases... I got 3 replacement pins and did near 1000 cases in one sitting and it's good to go.

[@DummyRound]

Sounds like you've been busy! I'm still working on my bucket of LC cases from a few videos ago, have about 600 left to go through on the trimmer. Which sizing die were you using? I've broken my share of decapping pins/rods from various sets. I do enjoy the Lee universal decapper, it's got a thicket rod(that's what she said). If you end up breaking that one, it's the same piece that goes with any of their pistol dies. What's a good email to reach you at?

[@SuperCinemaCraft]

@@DummyRound [e-mail] is my email. The die I broke the pins in was rcbs, also just got a whitetail doe with that 45-70 load, video to come stay posted

[@albertforletta1498]

I’m still considered a rookie when it comes to reloading 223. However, I have loaded thousands of 38spl, 357mag, and 45 colt. I have never broken a pin on my resizing dies. Now, I do realize that I haven’t reloaded enough 223 to come across that scenario, but in my humble opinion I don’t see myself breaking a pin on my 223 die. My advice would be to slow down a bit. Take your time reloading. Enjoy the hobby. 😊❤

[@SuperCinemaCraft]

@@albertforletta1498 it's mostly an occurrence with 556 NATO brass and not so much 223. I usually sort out the NATO stuff and toss it but when times got tough I started recycling it.

[@andy79z28]

Great info - I have been using the RCBS military crimp remover for years! Have tried swaging my opinion is it does swage the crimp but I feel the primer pocket is still to tight. If you check it with a go no go gauge, most of the time the go gauge will not go in.

[@DummyRound]

Thanks, Andy! When I finally get a prep center I'll probably use that little device as well. I haven't used the primer pocket gauges yet, maybe when I get more into precision loading and holding onto a specific set of brass. 🇺🇸👍👊

[@johnnyv.223]

EXCELLENT. All signal, no noise!

[@DummyRound]

Thanks for checking it out, Mr. V👊🇺🇲

[@T.A.B.Videos]

Good info and pictures

[@DummyRound]

Thanks 👍👊🇺🇸

[@phild8095]

Couple notes, the Lyman screwdriver looking tool, the head comes off and can be mounted in a drill chuck, I used it that way for about 2,000 rounds, then got Lee Ram Swage is a swage tool for large and small primer pockets that fits on the press, 40 bucks, easy to adjust and use, 5 stars in my book Why buy the cheap way then upgrade? Because you just don't feel like buying more stuff if you are going to give up and sell it at a loss.

[@DummyRound]

Sounds like a mighty fine product. I think it's relatively new and might not have been available when I was doing this video. I have heard a bunch of negative reviews on other press mounted swaging tools, like the RCBS. It seems Lee must have improved on that concept. Thanks for sharing👍🇺🇸

[@kmorris180]

I'll add one. I use an exacto knife. It's sharp enough to cut through the brass and it's reasonably quick.

[@DummyRound]

I hadn't heard of that one. Nice! 👍🤠🇺🇲

[@gsh341]

I use the Trim Mate Military Crimp Remover and it does a great job.

[@DummyRound]

Always heard that was a good one. Thanks!

[@SirWilliamSA]

Thank you, I actually had a CR-VPH2 drill bit that I was supposed to have thrown away some time ago and it really works.

[@DummyRound]

Very cool, thanks for watching 🇺🇸👍👊

[@epventer275]

Try running this video at X 1.25 speed. Speech actually sounds normal and you get through it a little faster.

[@DummyRound]

Only 1.25? Go at least 1.5! I can't stand listening to myself 🤣

[@garyboyer8039]

10 ways to remove dollar bills from your pants pockets. Lol

[@DummyRound]

The story of reloading 😆

[@scotthenderson4103]

I'm not getting into reloading to save money and I've already accepted the fact I'll never "break even" with the initial cost of equipment. I'm looking at the savings per round. If factory costs me $2/rd and I can reload for under a dollar (I've saved ALL my brass) it's a no brainer.

[@HobbiesHobo]

Well done. I have the Lee APP kit but I have been using the Lyman Tool exclusively. If I could find a hex drive adapter for the bits it would be even nicer.

[@DummyRound]

The APP seems like a pretty nice device, but I'm needing a case prep center before that. So many great tools out there 👍👊

[@jackwebb5917]

I use the Lee APP converted to the 4 tube and collator to deprime and it works great. I do all my 5.56 swaging with the Hornady swaging kit on my LNL and it works AWESOME!

[@DummyRound]

Nice set up. I recently got the APP so I've can sizing and swaging with it lately. Thanks👊👍🇺🇸

[@MrMrmetro]

OMG! I died when you said two birds stoned at once.........LOMAO

[@DummyRound]

🤣 I stole that one from Trailer Park Boys

[@bobbyb7127]

Dang!!!! Thank you so much.

[@DummyRound]

Thanks! 👍🇺🇲🤠

[@454Casul]

I use the RCBS swager that is a die that goes in your press.

[@DummyRound]

Another great option 👌 Do you reload for 454 Casull? I'm going to start once I can get some bullets cast up for it. Thanks 👊

[@ETFRoss]

I use the Lee Ram Swage die. Works great

[@johnoakley5544]

make more please. you had me at the walmarts.

[@DummyRound]

Yessir! Any suggestions? Thanks👍

[@johnoakley5544]

@@DummyRound nitrocellulose . unless you have and I am the idiot that missed it. "zombie powders" or "apocalypse powders" as smokeless as possible . something you can actually time the burn rate and compare to known existing rates. just a suggestion from a bumbling fool.

[@johnoakley5544]

@@DummyRound press and die cleaning? do you lube the shaft?

[@DummyRound]

Gotta keep your shaft lubed!

[@lucast3006]

A few years ago I came to my senses and bought the RCBS pocket swager die for my Rock Chucker press. It has made life way easier and was about $35. I don’t get why people shell out $110-$160+ for the separate dedicated swaging tools when they could just buy the dies to do it on a press they already own.

[@DummyRound]

Plenty of ways to skin this cat and people like to spend money, I suppose 👍🇺🇲

[@PlayingWithFireOutdoors]

As I'm a brass goblin at the range, I always try to check our local thuggeries lanes as they don't collect their brass. I generally manage a couple hundred after a qual shoot, both 5.56& nickel plate 9mm. I use the drill bit method to remove the swage, these sell well at gunshows.

[@DummyRound]

That's how ya do it! Half of my gear was funded by collecting brass👍🇺🇸

[@PlayingWithFireOutdoors]

@@DummyRound I like having a table @ shows, you get in early, and can scoop an occasional great deal.

[@DummyRound]

I don't do shows too often, just trading on various forums/local ranges/etc

[@brentedwards2606]

Don't forget about the RCBS primer pocket swager. Around $40 and comes with press mounted die body, SM&LG swager rod, SM&LG swager head and case stripper. I prefer this because I'm space limited and don't have room to mount another fixture. The whole kit fits in a standard green RCBS case.

[@DummyRound]

That's a popular option as well. Thanks 👍

[@MegaBait1616]

That's the one I use....be well.

[@DummyRound]

Nice

[@thorick590]

you use the cheap Lyman multi tool pocket reamer tool heads chucked into a drill for the cheap AND fast option.

[@DummyRound]

Yep, I've done a few thousand reps of that👍🇺🇲

[@blam3329]

RCBS brass prepping station?

[@masterjeem]

So if you have a Lee single stage press, the priming lever, when forced into a primer pocket swages it perfectly. Nobody told me this, and I'm only assuming it's meant to be used that way, but I figured it out while loading some 300blk.

[@DummyRound]

That's actually very interesting! I did not know that. Thanks for sharing🇺🇸👊👍

[@charleshetrick3152]

The RCBS trimmer is the absolute best. I’ve used the Dillon and it isn’t my favorite

[@DummyRound]

I've used neither but heard good things about both👍

[@andrewgodlewski8203]

Good video bro.

[@DummyRound]

Thanks, brother. I appreciate it.

[@jimshowtovideos]

good video, thanks

[@DummyRound]

Thanks, Jim!

[@RidgeRunner5150]

A countersink works very easy and very inexpensive. The crimp requires very little material removal.

[@DummyRound]

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to try that one day👊

[@kingfiredude]

Counter sink drill bit and drill

[@samiam619]

I bought the Lyman multi tool and I have 762x54R cases that are crimped AND sealed. So the primers are still in the pocket. How do I break the seal so I can deprime?

[@DummyRound]

You can just go ahead and deprime (carefully) as you normally would, unless it's a berdan primer. Then, you have other things to worry about👍🇺🇲

[@hunterayers2371]

Whats the difference between small and large primer pockets?

[@DummyRound]

Mostly just the size of primer that goes into them

[@Snowy_Breeze]

If I hammer out the primer, what gets damaged and how do you fix it?

[@DummyRound]

Can you elaborate on what you mean by, "hammer out the primer"? If deprimed with a standard decapping die or sizing die, nothing should be damaged.

[@Snowy_Breeze]

@@DummyRound take a tiny screwdriver, put it in the casing (which is being held by a socket wrench socket) and hammer it out.

[@DummyRound]

As long as your screw driver isn't interfering with the flash hole then everything should be fine. This is actually how the "Lee Loader" works - only thing not included is the hammer!

[@jessedyer1449]

You get a like because... well....6:36

[@DummyRound]

Ha! Thanks and Merry Christmas to you🇺🇲👍🎅

[@givemethemusicd]

lol, I sat down to reem (electric) a few hundred pockets...and, then placed an order for a progressive press swager 5 minutes into the process. Money well spent.

[@DummyRound]

It only takes a few to figure out what method you actually want to go with🤣👍🇺🇲

[@mikehenthorn1778]

I have also used a camphor tool for drilled holes and just went for that slight camphor to let the primer slide in. Really that is all you need, just a small slope to let that primer slide in. Not making the comments I would normally say at this point. Just saying a small taper and lube lets everything slide in to full depth. Lol

[@DummyRound]

Yessir! Just enough to break the edge and you're good to go. Happy holidays 👊👍🇺🇸

[@mikehenthorn1778]

@@DummyRound thank you sir Happy holidays to you and yours

[@theronroberts5573]

That's great, I was looking for the cheap way out. Because I'm cheap.🌭👍

[@DummyRound]

You and me both!👊👍🇺🇸

[@tedpeek76]

Swage it on my Dillon. Resize, deprime, swage. Add router trim. And you're ready for tumbler at 2 seconds a case

[@DummyRound]

That sounds great, but I'm a cheap ass lol

[@tedpeek76]

Lol yeah I've got about 600 in my processing station. But I can do 1000 cases in a sitting. Want to find a way to put a motorized Reamer where the swage it it. In the primer station.

[@DummyRound]

Sounds like a nice set up. I recently picked a 4 station prep center and now only handle the brass twice. Once to size on the press, then once to trim, chamfer, debur, and then ream the pocket on the Frankford Arsenal. This is about as efficient as I can get my brass prep without upgrading to something like what you have, or a Giraud trimmer. But, once again, I'm a cheap ass 🤣

[@archangel20031]

DUDE, IT IS NOT "ALL CRIMPED"! Out of my 1000 that I ordered I'd be willing to bet there are at least 20 that are not crimped!

[@DummyRound]

At least

[@BillyDaKid-pn2nn]

I keep breaking my primer pins. How the hell do I get them out without breaking my pins

[@DummyRound]

What dies are you using? Is the brass dirty? Any obstruction inside the case? Are they berdan primed? Primer pockets crimped?

[@stevepederson1736]

Billy, I have been using military brass for years, both 30-06 & 223(5.56) Getting primers out of the old 06 brass was sometimes close to impossible until I tried the L.E. Wilson decapers. Need two parts the base and the punch. For 30 cal- decap base#475 decap punch 30 cal Put the base on a good solid surface. Slide punch into case pin first, set case with punch on base and hit it with a hammer!! Sometimes several times! And some times the pin will punch out the center on the primer, leaving the outer ring, those cases are junk/scrap Hope I explained myself good enough that you get the idea. It does work the best I have found and I have done thousands of rounds, good luck

[@allanryan6014]

Use the lee universal deprimer

[@Amusiclover1954]

@@allanryan6014 I just rotate the case until I feel the decapping pin sink deeper. That way, you are not putting side torque on the pin and it will not bend or break.

[@NOTSOSLIMJIM]

Lol, I used the same tool

[@DummyRound]

It's great. Thanks!

[@robinj.9329]

Well, according to MY WIFE, I always end up choosing THE MOST EXSPENSIVE OPTION! (Actually, she turns out to be right about 98% of the time!) So, let me have that list again. From the top.......

[@DummyRound]

Lol, get the Dillon. Next best is the Lee Deluxe APP, which wasn't out at the time of this video🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@jmartyt9810]

"10 ways" then proceed to say 2 ways. You mean 10 different products.

[@DummyRound]

Right, 10 ways to remove a crimp.

[@tims6212]

Good info! Gotta love that commie brass. May try a few of these. #2 Philips, huh who would've thunk it.

[@DummyRound]

Someone random on the internet said it worked so I gave it a try 👍👊🇺🇸

[@tims6212]

Update: this little gem came up on my YT autoplay. Ha ha. Still good info.

[@DummyRound]

Lately I've been getting recommended lots of videos I've already seen. And I rewatch them lol

[@StewartCountyBallistics]

Lmao you got me with this commie stuff ... Good video lol

[@DummyRound]

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@jakespottedhorse]

I bought a rcbs and it did not work. Total junk!

[@DummyRound]

The single stage swaging tool? I've heard that one is pretty horrible. I don't have any experience with it, however.

[@robinj.9329]

OMG !!! You mean "Brass"!!! Like from a cartridge case! Geeze ! I thought you ment some thing else! Whew !😅

[@DummyRound]

Yeah, that stuff!

[@redrustyhill2]

Reaming takes way too long, aint nobody got time for that! (For those of us who have other hobbies and interests besides reloading)

[@DummyRound]

So, you just skip it or toss the brass or don't reload or what?

[@redrustyhill2]

I reamed 1k or so last winter. Have another 6 or 700 to do. The rcbs crimp remover in the prep center is slow and my hands are too arthritic to hold those cases. Going to buy a swager.

[@DummyRound]

Swaging is the way to go. I've since started using the Lee APP for swaging and it is superior 👍🇺🇲

[@redrustyhill2]

@@DummyRound will that work in an rcbs rockchucker or does it require the lee press?

[@DummyRound]

It's a standalone unit you can use for several processes.

[@brianmfieldwick3494]

You talk too much

[@DummyRound]

Thanks!

[@FB-pk9ob]

Love the commentary!

[@DummyRound]

Thanks🇺🇲👍👊

[@Fireworxs2012]

*Dremel with a carbide burr, put just the tip in...* 😎 *I just did 500-5.56 and 375-7.62x 51*

[@DummyRound]

That'll get it done for sure.