Top 10 Worst Cards From The Earliest Sets of Magic

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@raptorwithwings
@raptorwithwings Жыл бұрын
I know TheManaLogs loves video suggestions, and usually unique and weird ones to talk about new things. Here’s a few i think are strange enough to be interesting. Top 10 Worst Spells that use Phyrexian Mana as a Cast or Ability cost Top 10 Best/Worst Cards that give your other cards keyword abilities (like your Sorceries have Flash or Your Goblins have Haste) Top 10 Best Group Hug cards Top 10 Best Spells with X in its cost Top 10 Worst Cards that let you cast spells or summon your creatures without paying for them
@braveherogreenleaf6256
@braveherogreenleaf6256 Жыл бұрын
10 worst cards from lord of the rings, but it's just the ones people won't shut the hell up about and the ones no one who actually plays the game can afford to play. #1, the one ring, no one will ever have it, and if you meet someone that does, they either don't play at all, or have a legendary jodah whale deck with that in it.
@mazder360
@mazder360 Жыл бұрын
Animate Wall's art is hilarious. Looks like a realistic Thwomp
@bigpappasmoggie
@bigpappasmoggie Жыл бұрын
"Even if you want to play a weird blue burn deck" I feel called out.
@hggfhh4449
@hggfhh4449 8 ай бұрын
What if you used flashfire which is a sourcery that destroys all plains with magical hack? Then you can destroy whatever land types you want? Would be 5 manna tho.
@noahhobson4521
@noahhobson4521 Жыл бұрын
I do remember there was a creature that had the ability; This creature can not be blocked by creatures with flying. If you gave it flying, trivial even back then, it was unblockable unless you had a creature with reach. And there weren't many of them.
@Griever49
@Griever49 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a top 10 best/worst tribal lords considering how often tribal strategies are relevant there's just so many lords out there
@jeremyh4015
@jeremyh4015 Жыл бұрын
tell me you never played magic in the nineties without telling me you never played magic in the nineties
@marcellachine5718
@marcellachine5718 Жыл бұрын
Yep, my thoughts too.
@thetimebinder
@thetimebinder Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@PaulHerbig
@PaulHerbig 7 ай бұрын
Same....he's comparing the cards to ones that came 20 years later to say how bad they are. Also, why is he not using the Alpha card versions. Such an odd video.
@teagledabeagle
@teagledabeagle 4 ай бұрын
I love how people complain that the cards aren't "the alpha version." My brother its the sane card it just looks a little different. The video is still valid💀
@PaulHerbig
@PaulHerbig 4 ай бұрын
@@teagledabeagle It gives the impression that the cards are contemporaries. It's like showing a flintlock crafted in the fashion of a glock and wondering why anyone would have ever chosen the flintlock.
@michaellee4276
@michaellee4276 Жыл бұрын
Magical Hack as the worst card in Alpha-Unlimited is insane. It doesn't belong in the worst ten. The video literally shows game-changing two-card combos better than anything most of the other cards can do. The sets Hack was used with were full of land specific effects and landwalk, so there was a decent chance of it being useful even without your combos (kill a Nightmare or Pirate ship, or if your opponent plays Tsunami, they just gave you your game-winning combo) More narrow than Laces? What?! They aren't Sleight of Mind.
@muddlewait8844
@muddlewait8844 Жыл бұрын
This!!!
@Nidair
@Nidair Жыл бұрын
As you can see from the comparisons to newer options, these terrible cards aren't judged on how they used to play, but how they function today. If we would grade on 1995 standards, Celestial Prism would be an alright card since good mana fixing was rare and exclusive to green. Nowadays nobody plays Nightmare or Tsunami because of the numerous better alternatives that aren't dependent on your opponent's strategy.
@michaellee4276
@michaellee4276 Жыл бұрын
@@Nidair Celestial Prism was never "alright". Magical Hack is no longer good as a verstile almost-a-counter spell or anti-creature magic, which it once was. But there are plenty of combos with your own cards in constructed decks. Hacking Lord of Atlantis (or Goblin King) to make your entire tribe unblockable (and +1/+1) makes it a not bad card, in itself. And Lord of Atlantis Top Eighted in Vintage as recent as 2021. Land based keywords aren't frequent anymore, but they do exist. Making them virtually universal is powerful. If your criteria is that no one would use it in a current Vintage or Legacy tournament, you are ruling-out 99.9% of all magic cards and almost all of Alpha and this list would be a 260 way tie.
@Nidair
@Nidair Жыл бұрын
@@michaellee4276 Nobody used Magical Hack in 2021 because it's garbage. And you don't seem to get what this channel is about. Hack isn't a viable card in any format, not even Commander.
@michaellee4276
@michaellee4276 Жыл бұрын
@@Nidair That applies to 90% of Alpha at least and 90% of all Magic cards.
@aegisofhonor
@aegisofhonor Жыл бұрын
the lace cards are not always bad. Deathlace is even today part of a combo deck in legacy and vintage, and famously at a Pro Tour back in 1999, a player used Lifelace to prevent his creature to dying to Anarchy, to then be issued a game lose the next game for drawing 4 cards off of brainstorm to due fatigue.
@Utubesuxmycock
@Utubesuxmycock Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha thats great. I love old school stories
@rubyseverinwhitworth9066
@rubyseverinwhitworth9066 Жыл бұрын
The face on Animate Wall though
@CapRock9900
@CapRock9900 Жыл бұрын
7:10 Absolutely Iconic art.
@LopsidedMoz
@LopsidedMoz Жыл бұрын
@@SwagLord420Pi Rouse is my favourite bad art card
@kennydarmawan13
@kennydarmawan13 Жыл бұрын
Now do worst cards from Arabian Nights to Fallen Empires.
@dasgepunktet2426
@dasgepunktet2426 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that just turn into a card by card break down of Fallen Empires?
@Prince_Eva_Huepow
@Prince_Eva_Huepow Жыл бұрын
Sharahzad
@Utubesuxmycock
@Utubesuxmycock Жыл бұрын
​@@dasgepunktet2426 hahahaha
@Chidon0
@Chidon0 Жыл бұрын
@@dasgepunktet2426 theres 3 good cards in the whole set
@McD_James
@McD_James Жыл бұрын
Ancestral Mask sees regular play in Pauper Bogles and is fairly expensive for a card that's been printed at common.
@pizzaspy
@pizzaspy Жыл бұрын
If you played during the early sets, magical hack was one of the cards that really sparked the imagination. The idea of messing with a word on a card using another card was very novel and fun at the time, and the mindset was having fun making weird things work and not min maxing
@rogerfew2493
@rogerfew2493 Жыл бұрын
It also made Lifeforce into a complete BOMB in green, especially if your opponent was playing a mono color deck.
@thetimebinder
@thetimebinder Жыл бұрын
"Worse cards in Alpha" promptly lists multiple staples of early Magic. You simply can't compare bad Alpha cards with 2023 strictly better versions. You have to compare Alpha cards to Alpha cards. Aspect of the Wolf got dropped on Wolley Mammoth a lot. The only good direct kill cards in Alpha were Lightning Bolt, Swords to Plowshares and Terror. "Dies to removal" wasn't a thing in 1994.
@lissythearchitect
@lissythearchitect Жыл бұрын
Fireball and Disintegrate were pretty good, too, though Lightning Bolt, Terror, and Swords to Plowshares were the top 3.
@dadrising6464
@dadrising6464 2 ай бұрын
Which os why +0/+2 for all untapped crearures wasnt all that bad.
@Ukobarrywawa
@Ukobarrywawa Жыл бұрын
Magical Hack is a staple in Dandan/Forgetful Fish. It's a niche format, but still a useful card because of it
@deathbean1
@deathbean1 Жыл бұрын
6:49 Prophetic Prism 100% has seen play a lot of play actually it's banned in Pauper along with a bunch of other cards because of how busted Affinity was
@Calico365
@Calico365 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised to see Magical Hack on here! Obviously it's super narrow but i remember pulling out these Fifth Edition pre-made decks that my parents once had, and I played a game against them with it. I had some white and red deck, and i was versing a blue and black deck. I played Karma, the one that damages each player at their upkeep for each swamp they have, but then they used Magical Hack to change the land type into Plains instead! What a weird game compared to how commander and modern plays nowadays!
@devononair
@devononair Жыл бұрын
This was a strange watch because you showed 7th/8th edition versions of the cards. It kind of sucked me out of the world of Alpha/Beta.
@greenchainlumper
@greenchainlumper Жыл бұрын
I also watch top 10 lists for the immersion
@mediocrepixels9095
@mediocrepixels9095 Жыл бұрын
The world of driving to work is a particular favorite of mine. The lore is just so good
@apoena-allnitemusic7203
@apoena-allnitemusic7203 Жыл бұрын
He does it always. He hates old frame I guess. So annoying
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 Жыл бұрын
Alpha cards have notorious problems with readability and outdated text. Picking a more recent version is completely understandable.
@SalmiakkiAficionado
@SalmiakkiAficionado Жыл бұрын
I agree. I like TheManaLogs videos, but sometimes he chooses questionable card versions to present the cards.
@metalblizzard6024
@metalblizzard6024 Жыл бұрын
Hard as it would be, can you make a "most pushed" list with cards that show power creep in their hostoric context?
@Galactis
@Galactis Жыл бұрын
When it comes to Alpha, you have to keep an Alpha mindset…you can’t say it’s a bad card by comparing it to a newer card because overall power level of the cards in the game have risen to crazy levels compared to Alpha. Take Aspect of Wolf for example…yeah there are better enchantments now, but back in Alpha all there were was basic lands..
@Evertide05
@Evertide05 Жыл бұрын
Point is agreed with, but I think he did a decent job of keeping "hindsight is always 20/20" in mind and explaining how these cards weren't good even by the standards of the time, not that it might have been as obvious back then as it is now. I speak as not a professional player, just a fan of the channel.
@svenornitier
@svenornitier Жыл бұрын
Hey Manalogs! Have you considered exploring the lore aspect of MTG? Like "top 10 MTG protagonists" or something along those lines? I want to know what you think about its lore aspects.
@nharviala
@nharviala Жыл бұрын
I feel like Gaea's Leige has a cute place in Commander, at least, interrupting multi-colored mana bases. It has great potential in the format where land removal is generally frowned upon.
@Neelo5000
@Neelo5000 Жыл бұрын
True, but then again a lot of bad cards are able to find their way into Commander decks.
@GarmrKiDar
@GarmrKiDar Жыл бұрын
How can Animate Wall be on a 'worst cards' list, when its art is that good?
@danielporten8687
@danielporten8687 Жыл бұрын
Magical Hack is a Dandân all-star, at least.
@jameswinslow8540
@jameswinslow8540 7 ай бұрын
I love the art for these old cards, I wish they could buff the stats to do the art justice.
@newsuperstevebros
@newsuperstevebros Жыл бұрын
Gaea's Liege was my main win con while playing the green deck in Shandalar, the magic PC game from the 90s lmao
@jettblade
@jettblade Жыл бұрын
I have never caught this before but in Animate Wall the wall has a little face, hands, and feet. Seriously have seen this art for a few years and never caught it. I like those little details.
@casabaixo
@casabaixo Жыл бұрын
>video about >only< alpha cards >refuses to use original printings
@N12015
@N12015 Жыл бұрын
To hear a 2 mana +2|+2 is terrible really puts into perspective how easy it is to remove creatures in Magic. That spell in LoR is considered the white equivalent's best feature alongside their hability of attacking multiple times, and it only lasts 1 turn; is instant though which means it cannot be interrupted, BUT STILL.
@TheCubicalGuy
@TheCubicalGuy Жыл бұрын
Prophetic Prism is banned in pauper btw.
@Guru4hire
@Guru4hire Жыл бұрын
In commander there will almost always be something you can hose with magical hack. Fetchlands, green cards that care about forests, walk types, sword of whatever cards and anything else with protection from colors, black removal spells. Something will come up.
@mischacarlberg6631
@mischacarlberg6631 Жыл бұрын
I would argue that Magical Hack is a lot better than most cards on these list simply because it synergizes with Orvar, the All-Form. Copying a permanent for one blue is basically what the deck revolves around
@dark_rit
@dark_rit Жыл бұрын
Yeah, like in no universe can farmstead be useful. I remember when I first saw the card and thought wow, this is so bad. I like the art, but it's so bad.
@davidlundquist1979
@davidlundquist1979 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Personal Incarnation didn't make an appearance. Yeah, a 6/6 for six was a good rate back then, but the down side of losing half your life (rounded up!) when it died is just ridiculous. Every color had a big rare creature with a significant drawback, but Personal Incarnation was the worst by a long shot. Then again, white got the best uncommon creature in Serra Angel, so maybe that was supposed to balance it out.
@Shoyro
@Shoyro Жыл бұрын
Will have to point out, cards like Web and Castle have a small niche in Commander. Like mentioned, there is Arcades the Strategist, a card which has an ability for you dealing damage to the opponent based on the creature's Toughness instead of Power. This list is accurate for other formats, as Arcades is not really seen in them.
@Yoshi348
@Yoshi348 Жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity on not including Conservator, which is Celestial Prism but 1 more to cast, 1 more to activate, for the way worse effect of preventing 2 damage to yourself and yourself alone.
@stonewallkotdm
@stonewallkotdm Жыл бұрын
I've really been enjoying the videos on this channel since I found it a few weeks ago. I was wondering, it might be kind of a big project, but would you ever be interested in doing a list of the best and worst card in each MTG expansion? Keep up the great work!
@johnwaldrop8237
@johnwaldrop8237 Жыл бұрын
Back in the day I had a buddy that had a gaea’s liege deck. It was a good deck. If he got a couple gaeas lieges on the table, he could shut down your mana if you weren’t playing green. You gotta remember that magic decks were much less powerful than they are now. For the time it came out, Gaeas Liege was a good card. This was also in a time before ordering cards online. So every week my buddy would go to the card store and see if they were selling a gaeas liege (he was trying to get 4 for his deck). I remember going with him and secretly hoping it wouldn’t be there, cuz that card kicked my ass. Good times.
@InOzWeTrust
@InOzWeTrust Жыл бұрын
Magical Hack worked even within Alpha to make Lord of Atlantis viable against non-blue decks, no way it's rated above Farmstead.
@hggfhh4449
@hggfhh4449 8 ай бұрын
Question. Could you use magical hack with your own cards? Like Flashfire which is a sourcery for 3 and one red that destroys all plains?
@jefftherayls4637
@jefftherayls4637 Жыл бұрын
"Wizards seemed to be under the false impression that having access to both mana ramp and colour fixing at the same time would be far too strong." Birds of Paradise was in Alpha. Yes, it's a green card, but you had Llanowar Elves and Wild Growth on the screen as examples as well.
@odioalospoopers
@odioalospoopers Жыл бұрын
yeah, and alpha ABSOLUTELY doesn't feature better mana artifacts, like in a set or something about flowers and rings...
@lissythearchitect
@lissythearchitect Жыл бұрын
@@odioalospoopers As a note, in Alpha, relatively few people had access to all the rares. There just weren't that many Alpha cards printed (2.6 million) in a card game few had even heard of before. They were sold out in about 2 months, and there was a gap before Beta was printed.
@squidgyxombie
@squidgyxombie Жыл бұрын
You're gonna put Hack in #1? Blue aggro merfolk was a thing... so the card basically says "if you have your Lord of Atlantis in play, and your opponent controls a basic land, your merfolk are unblockable."
@gravity1537
@gravity1537 Жыл бұрын
Do you know the name of the song you used at 3:00 for background music?
@movezig5
@movezig5 8 ай бұрын
A couple of things: 1. "Aspect of Wolf" doesn't have the word "the" in its name. 2. Celestial Prism saw a lot of play in Pauper, until it got banned. 3. "Walls matter," or at least "defender matters," has absolutely been a thing, at least in limited and Commander. You even mention payoffs for the archetype, so I'm not sure why you spoke as if it wasn't a good enough strategy to see play. 4. I'd argue that Magical Hack is less narrow than the lace spells, since it can be used with any basic land types. Plus, as the card itself states, it can be used to modify landwalk abilities, which does have some use cases. Sleight of Mind is probably more broadly useful though.
@Dracomandriuthus
@Dracomandriuthus Жыл бұрын
"never sees play" prophetic prism literally banned in pauper because of the play it was seeing
@DieFrauAmHerd
@DieFrauAmHerd Жыл бұрын
Ancestral Mask killed us in the commander game yesterday. Equipped to Sythis, Harvest's Hand, the commander, vs one goaded deck and everybody having at least 1 or 2 enchantments on the field... Note: The Sythis also had the aura which gives it PRO of the color of users choosing.
@hamishfox
@hamishfox Жыл бұрын
Man, I loved aspect of the wolf when I was a kid. I played it in my RG fireball ramp deck. Way to get me right in the feels.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 Жыл бұрын
Okay analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@Jeff32479
@Jeff32479 Жыл бұрын
It's easy to see that he never played in the early days. Removal was swords, terror, lightning bolt and NO ONE used swords because it gave an opponent LIFE. Gaea's Liege clogged the ground game and changing a land to a forest was HUGE in a game that played for 20 turns. Many cards have gotten weaker due to power creep. You Animate Wall on Wall of Swords? Your opponent wasn't playing black or white, that was basically GAME.
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 Жыл бұрын
Are you really saying that Gaea's Liege was anywhere near playable?
@Jeff32479
@Jeff32479 Жыл бұрын
@Fernando Banda Back in the day, 6 drops weren't uncommon to see at all. No one played dual lands, the concept of a mana base wasn't thought up. Was it as good as Shivan? No, but it was extremely playable. When Legends came out, Sol'Kanar the Swamp King was ridiculous. It couldn't be blocked if you played swamps. You either bolted it twice, or it was pretty much over. So much has changed in 30 years.
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeff32479 I'm not saying "it's bad because it's a 6 drop". It's a 6 drop that can't attack. Maybe it attacks for 1 or 2 after a couple turns, or if your opponent happens to play green, maybe 4? Craw Wurm and Obsianus Golem are commons/uncommons that are infinitely more playable. Even good old Sea Serpent only asks your opponent to have *one* island and then swings as a 5/5. Even if your card availability was very low, any plain old War Mammoth, Hill Giant or Ironroot Treefolk was a million times more playable. I can't underestimate how completely unusable Gaea's Liege is, except by saying it takes 3-5 turns to turn it into these common creatures that are much cheaper.
@josephdurgan7030
@josephdurgan7030 Ай бұрын
Hey, so overall, a good video. I do take some issue with saying Prophetic prism has never been played. It’s actually banned in pauper because it made train too good.
@eulefranz944
@eulefranz944 Жыл бұрын
What about the white aura that gives protection from white, falling of instantly?
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't fall off. It specifically has text to prevent that.
@jacksonwilliamson256
@jacksonwilliamson256 Жыл бұрын
Its so funny that in 93-96 (i think its an old old blog post from ye old internet) but gaes liege was one of the top 10 green creatures of the time
@chrischew5143
@chrischew5143 Жыл бұрын
While I agree with most, I had seen magical hack has a much higher usage in edh.
@muddlewait8844
@muddlewait8844 Жыл бұрын
It was niche but fine in certain periods and environments, and often great fun in pre-EDH multiplayer (which once actually existed). Basically pair it with Flashfires, Acid Rain, or Kormus Bell. People forget that non-instantly-game-ending combos that cost 4-7 mana were a thing once.
@WCMRFILY
@WCMRFILY Жыл бұрын
"[Prophetic Prism] has basically never seen play" It is banned in Pauper because of how good it was in Tron decks...
@MrSupurdave
@MrSupurdave Жыл бұрын
back in the day magical hack on a karma would kill off your opponent in short order. Can't agree with it being the worst. you just need to build around it which is true of many solid cards. there are newer better options but there was also a lot of worse garbage in ABU.
@jshtng78
@jshtng78 Жыл бұрын
How viable was it to build around those cards in competitive ABU? You'd think we'd have an iconic Magical Hack deck by now if it had actually done anything.
@Jeff32479
@Jeff32479 Жыл бұрын
​@@jshtng78 You didn't build around those cards, but they weren't as bad as this guy is making them out to be. As I said in my post, this guy never played in the early days.
@MrSupurdave
@MrSupurdave Жыл бұрын
@@jshtng78 still better than homestead and probably a bunch of others. I'm not saying it's good, just not the worst. I don't know if it saw competitive play but casually it was played and with the vicious land hate that was in ABU it could be effective.
@ShaqPlaque
@ShaqPlaque Жыл бұрын
I used to have a deck that combo'd Merfolk Assassin, Ernham Djinn, and Magical Hack to whittle away my opponent's creatures. It wasn't a good deck. But it did a thing. Magical Hack asked you to find creative ways to use it and took up a lot less rare slot real estate than the laces
@GellyVelly
@GellyVelly Жыл бұрын
TBH I wouldn't even put Magical Hack on the list. It is super niche and I wouldn't say it was a "great" card. But I've def used it to some decent effect in commander decks where I was running stuff like Boil and Choke. On the rare occasion someone ISNT playing blue, its a cute and decent trick to blow up all their whatever else lands. So for sure, it's def niche as fuck and kinda goofy. The deck I do run it in is kinda novelty. But when it DOES do something, it can be a WAY bigger effect than like a lace, castle, or one of the crappy auras. Nevertheless, always enjoy the lists and the discussion they bring out.
@NSG0079
@NSG0079 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I would use it to break things like an opponent's Nightmare or Gaea's Liege, but outside of vintage I can't think of any time it might come up. Almost every standard card that cares about basic land types usually asks how many DIFFERENT basics you currently control, not a specific named type.
@GellyVelly
@GellyVelly Жыл бұрын
@@NSG0079 Oh for sure, I def couldn't imagine it in standard. But in the most popular format, Commander I think it at least has SOME amount of fringe use.
@justinmathis8078
@justinmathis8078 Жыл бұрын
If there was a 1 mana white sorcery that says “you gain 10 life”, how good would that card be? Life gain would probably be better if life gain effects gain more life. The card I just made up would be like taking a mulligan to 6 to start the game at 30 life. How strong would some like that be?
@wolvie1973
@wolvie1973 5 ай бұрын
Judging cards from the first edition without the context of the first edition leads to wrong impression. I tottally agree that now it does not make sense to play a card like Web but in Alpha when you played Magic the only reasonnable way to beat your opponent was to take his 20 life points before he took yours. Creatures were the principal way to achieve this goal and creatures with flying were a tremendous advantage because there were only a couple of such cards in each colour. The green ones were Scryb sprite (1/1) and Bird of paradise, so believe me when I say that if you played green in Alpha you HAD to play Web and Giant Spider to deal with the likes of Serra Angel, Shivan dragon or Sengir Vampire.
@Conan_the_Based
@Conan_the_Based Ай бұрын
I feel like Gaea's Liege is being undersold. Turning the opponent's lands into Forests can be game breaking for them. Not just messing his mana supply; if he drops Tabernacle or Bazaar, Liege can turn them into mostly-useless Forests in his hopefully non-Green deck. I wouldn't call it a good card, but I don't think it's a contender for top 10 worst.
@meatshield_
@meatshield_ Жыл бұрын
If you really REALLY wanna run web, just use an actual spider instead. Less vulnerable than an aura, and they tend to have more power than 0.
@jonbrewer297
@jonbrewer297 3 ай бұрын
Gaea's Liege had some value with creatures with forestwalk. It's still bad, but it has some value. Re: Animate Wall, Richard really loved the flavor of walls. Though why only one was white is beyond me.
@nathaeladalyah9681
@nathaeladalyah9681 8 ай бұрын
Sure, Castle used to be almost worthless. However, in today's MtG, Castle gives effectively +2/+2 for 3W with Doran the Seige Tower as Commander. That's double the Glorious Anthem for only 1 extra mana
@braveherogreenleaf6256
@braveherogreenleaf6256 Жыл бұрын
Let's just errata Web to say "Target creature is now thran spider, but no one gets a powerstone."
@mikenahmias7102
@mikenahmias7102 Жыл бұрын
I use Magical Hack and similar cards in part of my Commander deck with Landwalkers.
@detheros44
@detheros44 Жыл бұрын
Would love a few vids on Un-set/shitpost sets.
@craigstuckey319
@craigstuckey319 Жыл бұрын
Animate Wall Sunweb was nasty back in the day. Also Aspect Of The Wolf was playable in mono green.
@craigstuckey319
@craigstuckey319 Жыл бұрын
And Magical Hack was a combo enabler.
@marcellachine5718
@marcellachine5718 Жыл бұрын
Or iceage s illusionary wall.
@marcellachine5718
@marcellachine5718 Жыл бұрын
Or iceage s illusionary wall.
@Fangs-jo4bq
@Fangs-jo4bq Жыл бұрын
Top ten best vehicle commanders. Would be a fun video.
@Pfisiar22
@Pfisiar22 4 ай бұрын
I'm really surprised you didn't mention the lucky charms, aka Crystal Rod and its ilk.
@hggfhh4449
@hggfhh4449 8 ай бұрын
Could you use magical hack with flash fire on the same turn. Interupting your sourcery?
@deeterful
@deeterful Жыл бұрын
You cannot, and should not, judge Alpha cards through a lens of hindsight. Even comparing Alpha cards to cards in other sets is folly. One must judge Alpha against itself, as those were the only options for gameplay at the time. And it was a very different game scape.
@stigmaoftherose
@stigmaoftherose Жыл бұрын
Aspect of wolf got buffed a bit by yavimaya cradle of growth. And for 2 mana it isn't that bad in a limited format but definitely unplayable outside a limited format.
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 Жыл бұрын
These cards weren't played in any Limited format, so judging it like that is completely arbitrary. I can think of plenty Limited formats with very different power levels. That said, it's very very very bad. Even in monocolor, you need 6 Forests to be above rate, and even then a +3/+3 Aura is really terrible.
@N4chtigall
@N4chtigall Жыл бұрын
What I find interesting is that how hard Wizards tried to push the "number of forests" mechanic. There are like 3-4 cards which are the worst cards in the history of MTG with those words on it.
@lorenzoc.5136
@lorenzoc.5136 22 күн бұрын
Well, the combo magical hack + Karma in a white/blue deck did work.
@platurt9595
@platurt9595 Жыл бұрын
Magical Hack doesn't seem that bad to me. A 2 card "destroy all lands of a chosen type"? Definitely better than Farmstead.
@SlimThrull
@SlimThrull Жыл бұрын
Yeah... Compared to today's cards, these cards are pretty awful. I do, however, feel the need to at least partially defend a few of the cards on this list. Aspect of the Wolf and Gaea's Liege were not as bad as this list would have you believe. Aspect of the Wolf was used in mono-green decks as a way to finish the game. Remember, back then creatures didn't tend to do a whole lot except for attack and block. Games would almost always take many more turns than they do today. Get ten Forests in play? That's +5/+5. This card could act as a finisher against some decks. It wasn't fantastic by any means. But it did see a bit of play. Gaea's Liege was capable of locking your opponent out of the game. If they aren't playing green, you didn't have to wait terribly long before being able to limit them to a single spell a turn (if they happened to have one that cost a single non-green color AND they had kept the appropriate land in their hand). It was no Demonic Hordes, but it had it's uses.
@SalmiakkiAficionado
@SalmiakkiAficionado Жыл бұрын
Some of these cards see play in Old School Magic. I know that's it's not an official format, but still, some of these cards are a lot better than others, such as Gray Ogre. Magical Hack is definitely not the worst card in ABU! It sees some play in Forgetful Fish/Dandân, where it acts as an excellent piece of removal. It also sees a bit of play in Old School in Merfolk decks. It can change Lord of Atlantis's ability, or act as a semi-land destruction kind of spell. It also combos well with Karma. Again, both of these formats aren't official, but this top 10 list isn't really that accurate and could definitely be improved :)
@Metallicity
@Metallicity Жыл бұрын
I'd probably not consider Dandan specifically, since it's custom designed to not only make basic land changing playable, but also is a shared deck which sort of ignores the whole idea of a "playable" card. Any card is playable in a format like that, if someone decides to include it in the list. But there are other cards that were completely missed that are even more universally terrible, Word of Command probably being the most famous. I'd probably also throw in Glasses of Urza, since going down a card for hand knowledge has never really been worth it, while a variable +2/+2-ish aura could definitely steal some games for a green deck in an alpha/old school limited environment.
@JervisGermane
@JervisGermane Жыл бұрын
You do know there are combos involving most of these, right? Magical Hack + Donate + Celestial Dawn is an infamous lockout combo, for example.
@Andulvar
@Andulvar Жыл бұрын
Did he play Magic in 1993? Making the Wall of Swords able to attack was quite good. He also talks about early Magic like there was more than just Richard Garfield designing the game originally.
@lissythearchitect
@lissythearchitect Жыл бұрын
As a note, he had a development team, though their pay was mostly playing the game. Charlie Cateeno, Skaff Elias, Don Felice, Tom Fontaine, Jim Lin, Joel Mick, Chris Page, Dave Pettey, Barry Reich, Bill Rose, and Elliott Segal are all credited, though my understanding is that some of them were more useful than others.
@Kratosauron0
@Kratosauron0 Жыл бұрын
The Dandan format would like to have a word with you
@nathanwilliams9158
@nathanwilliams9158 Жыл бұрын
I run magical hack, thoughtlace, and feedback in my Orvar the All-form EDH deck!
@nhailstone
@nhailstone Жыл бұрын
Wards cycle should be on here, especially white ward, which would just fall off the creature. Lucky charms are also worse than much of the list. Lace cycle is absolute worst, followed by farmstead.
@muddlewait8844
@muddlewait8844 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this comment is basically dead on.
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 Жыл бұрын
White Ward doesn't fall off the creature. It has text to prevent that.
@TheSpiritombsableye
@TheSpiritombsableye Жыл бұрын
About Castle, you used to have to tap the respective creature to block a creature; making Castle even worse.
@SomeGuy712x
@SomeGuy712x Жыл бұрын
Has that ever been true? I don't think you've ever had to tap simply to block, even in the oldest days of Magic.
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 Жыл бұрын
You've never had to tap blockers.
@lissythearchitect
@lissythearchitect Жыл бұрын
I do not think this is accurate. I had a Castle from the Beta set and never recall that being a drawback. It's just a card that is only useful in improving your creature's defenses, which means that you need a way of converting your creature's improved survivability into your opponent's death. The way I recall being able to do this was through Army of Allah (Arabian Knights set), but obviously 1) that's post-Alpha and 2) many decks using that or a similar effect are stronger /without/ Castle.
@lissythearchitect
@lissythearchitect Жыл бұрын
I'm not clear how you missed Twiddle, arguable the worst alpha/beta card. Castle is hard to use, but it makes some otherwise unviable decks viable. A problem is those required post-alpha material. Obviously, in most cases a +1/+1 enchantment is better. Web is weak, but if you have no other way to handle flyers, it is better than nothing. I'd consider adding the cost 3 mana 2/2s with no special abilities to your list. They are only worthwhile in a case where you have a /very/ limited selection of cards. Gaea's liege is dubious, though it might be useful for a sideboard in preparation for a mostly green deck versus a mostly green deck. Bone Wall and Living Wall were usable, but the rest of the early walls were typically not better than a cost 1 1/1 creature. And yes, a wall-specific enchantment was never worthwhile. Might as well just bring out a useful creature or two instead.
@OMEGA-362
@OMEGA-362 Жыл бұрын
Magical hack can turn a basic into any other basic or any og dual into a bunch of others on account of replacing the basic land type, also lord of Atlantis was in this set so its the older spreading seas, it's also a permenent effect that can't be removed
@restionSerpentine
@restionSerpentine Жыл бұрын
The rare mountain from Arabian Nights was pretty bad
@JLH111176
@JLH111176 4 ай бұрын
Animate Wall even the wall looks sad. I play Magical hack in sideboard way back so if Tsunami was played if it was in my hand I could change it don't think that it ever happened
@kolaeiToDvD
@kolaeiToDvD Жыл бұрын
web is a limited card for sideboarding after u lose the first match to random UW flyers
@bushido8077
@bushido8077 Жыл бұрын
Back in 4th ed. Till 5th ed i had a white weenie deck (still have). Im using Castle to prevent my creature hit by lightning bolt and incinerate by my opponent, yup bad cards that's why my opponent is pissed off so all the spells target me instead, but sad to say i have zuran orb😊
@cerebralisk
@cerebralisk Жыл бұрын
gaea's liege is buffed from 'entirely unplayable' to 'still bad' now that yavimaya, cradle of growth exists to make all lands forests but lol still godawful
@TheDuckofLaw
@TheDuckofLaw Жыл бұрын
"Web basically never makes since to play" should be "sense."
@nathanaelmcmahan872
@nathanaelmcmahan872 Жыл бұрын
Gaea's Liege is bad until you untap it infinitely and change all the opponent's lands. Sure, there's better, but it's fun.
@johnnyreaper9714
@johnnyreaper9714 Жыл бұрын
you can use castle in assigns damage by toughness decks. There are several of them that are actually insanely good. Just because your opinion says that toughness doesn't matter doesn't mean that it does.
@lissythearchitect
@lissythearchitect Жыл бұрын
I am not recalling any cards which made this viable in Alpha, though I'd agree that this is a way to try to make Castle more useful. That said, you still have the issue that tapped cards loose the Castle effect.
@johnnyreaper9714
@johnnyreaper9714 Жыл бұрын
@@lissythearchitect I completely misread the card. The second you attack they would lose that damage so this is actually pretty bad.
@lissythearchitect
@lissythearchitect Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyreaper9714 I've used Castle in some decks. Basically, it's somewhat useful on defense, and more useful protecting your toughness 1 creatures from effects doing 1 point of damage (examples: Pirate Ship, Prodigal Sorcerer, A particularly effective use of fireball, Rod of Ruin, Orcish Artillery (does 2)). It /is/ possible to use on offense, but you can't tap your creature, or at minimum need to untap it to get the effect. You might be able to use it on defense by using an effect to switch power and toughness, though I am dubious it would work often enough. The main use I found for it was to protect my weaker toughness creatures, some. I only recall using it effectively in a Thallid deck (to prevent all the Saporlings from dying to a single Prodigal Sorcerer). That said, my Thallid deck was not one of my stronger decks, and its strength relied more on Army of Allah (+2/0 to all creatures instant) and Lure than Castle. I am not claiming Castle is a strong card. I have found more and better uses for it, than, say, Black Vise or Copper Tablet - the former of which I'm not clear these is a useful way to use. The later of which I pretty certain is usable (with a card from Antiquities preventing the damage), but 1 point of damage/turn to my opponent from a 2-card combo is... not something I'd put in a deck, for that reason alone. There are far stronger options.
@StarlightRoad
@StarlightRoad Жыл бұрын
Top ten best cards and top ten worst cards from the Time Spiral block, please.
@stephentrever1769
@stephentrever1769 Жыл бұрын
I guess you don’t consider pauper a legitimate format. Prophetic Prism saw plenty of play in pauper torn decks. So much that even had to be banned.
@Dyllon2012
@Dyllon2012 Жыл бұрын
Battles are probably the most uncommon type right now just given their newness.
@leonardochiaravalli1861
@leonardochiaravalli1861 Жыл бұрын
I think the hive should deserve a spot too
@tdimensional6733
@tdimensional6733 Жыл бұрын
I wish someone thought about me the same way alpha thought about walls
@charliescourbys1340
@charliescourbys1340 Жыл бұрын
All these card have better art than anything from recent sets and aren't merged with other franchises.
@SoloFalcon1138
@SoloFalcon1138 2 ай бұрын
This list was a lot less "worst cards from Alpha" and more "in 31 years, these cards became irrelevant with better versions"
@Tzimisce00
@Tzimisce00 Жыл бұрын
weird decision to not use the original art onany of them honestly.
@metal--babble346
@metal--babble346 5 ай бұрын
original MTG was not "underpowered". This card game turned into a popular video game, got bought out by Hasbro, who turned the suttle power creep into full fledged Yu-Gi-Oh battles.
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