Top 15 Prophecies of Jesus DEBUNKED!!! | MythVision Documentary

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[@jackricky5453]

Jesus would have been emaciated regardless because his ribcage would have bulged out during his crucifixion. Also, karah means dig (often in the context of a well), the best translation is therefore bore, as in boring a well. This lines up with oryxan. Pierced comes from the Latin pertus meaning bored through, and this was used in the translation soon after it was adopted into the English language. Jesus is the well of living water, and at the hand of God they bored a well, and from his wounds flowed living water (interesting connection). Also, Job was written centuries after Psalm 22. Enjoyed the video though.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

Two anecdotal experiences posted by two fellow Americans and there was no middle man in both narrated story posted on YT. Two Americans asked God for guidance from their heart in whole sincerity, it was Allah who answered their call, one man came from Jewish family and other man came from U.S military family. Both men came to Islam for the miracle their experienced, true story posted on YT, unbias reports, both men started to hear Islamic call-to-prayer Azan in the middle of nowhere, both men reported same incident. Both men were former """enemies""" of Muslims. If it were NOT for the miracle, they wouldn't have bothered with Islam, both men were truly longing for God and guidance. If your heart is pure, this could be you in the next, you cannot fake your supplication to Allah. Your Creator knows about you, more than you know of your own self inside and outside...

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

1) These men truly longing for God guidance and they supplicated to God from their heart, which resulted in miracle, in other words two separate individuals had prior supplication to God and then their supplication was connected with a miracle and it was a not random miracle and these men were knew they had supplicated to God. 2) These men were former """"enemies""" of Muslims, which means they were not bias in their claim in the least. 3) These men had no exterior motives such as looking for immigration, looking for a spouse or looking for financial gain. 4) These men were not born to Muslims parents or brought up on Muslim culture. 5) These men had no Muslims friends or connection to Islam and there was no middle man between them the God showed and answered their supplication, no middle-man in the story posted. 6) The video was not made by Muslims and it was not posted by Muslims men.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

"Derrick Feinman How Islam Found Me: My Conversion to Islam"

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

"After Combat - The Story Of a Marine's Conversion to Islam"

[@TheLastAirbender3468]

the Internet was by far the worst thing that happened to Christianity

[@Noxthedunmer]

Yeah it's a lot harder to lie.

[@iuutoob]

Wow. Trump that claim.​@@Noxthedunmer

[@Dragonette666]

@@NoxthedunmerI can see that but you also wind up with people who think a pizza parlor that does not have a basement is running a trafficking ring out of their basement.

[@jackricky5453]

@@Noxthedunmer It's also a lot easier to spread a lie.

[@RickyRicardo-e2b]

It kind of seems intentional tho, orchestrated; the destruction of abrahamic religions that is. Albert pike wrote about this in a famous letter that predicted world War 3 would begin between jews/Muslims, eventually leasing to the mutual destruction of all abrahamic religions. And as you probably know, Albert pike is a 33rd degree Mason, and an ex confederate general. There's a method behind the madness.

[@hemabommireddy6736]

If Jesus was born to a virgin - then how can he be in David’s bloodline? Joseph was in David’s bloodline according to Matthew but again Matthew claimed that Jesus was born to a virgin. It’s contradictory.

[@Mithrandir7777]

Also, according to most apocrypha and biologically speaking, at the time of her betrothal to Joseph, Mary was 12-14 years old, and he was 90 old. Contradictions from every angle.

[@exoplanet11]

The authors of those (conflicting) genealogies would surely have realized that. Thus, I conclude that those texts were originally written BEFORE the "born of a virgin" narrative was created, and then inserted into the next copy of the text. The earliest christians (Ebionites) denied Mary's virginity. Greeks had been worshiping virgins (parthenas) ever since they built the Parthenon, honoring the divine virgin Athena. At some point, I suspect, Christians trying to sell their new Jewish religion in Greece realized that if they just added a holy virgin to the story it would sell better.

[@EvilXtianity]

According to the Bible, Joseph had two male parents (Heli and Jacob). Who was Joseph's father? From which of David's sons was Jesus descended, Solomon or Nathan? Solomon? "David the king begat Solomon ... and Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ." (Matthew 1:6-16) Or Nathan? "And Jesus ... Jesus was known as the son of Joseph. Joseph was the son of Heli... who was the son of Nathan, who was the son of David." (Luke 3:23-31)

[@EvilXtianity]

The word used in Hebrew scriptures (Isaiah 7:14) is "almah" ("young woman having reached puberty"). Importantly, the Hebrew word which could have been used, but wasn't, is "bethulah" ("virgin"). When Jewish scholars translated the Septuagint into Greek in the 3rd century BC they translated "almah" into Greek as "parthenos" ("virgin"). So then we got Isaiah's prophecy that the Messiah would be conceived by a virgin instead of by a young woman. The Gospel of Matthew (Luke copied Matthew's account; Mark and John do not assert a virgin birth) attempted to justify Jesus' divine parentage by tailoring the story of Jesus' conception to match the fulfilment of a prophecy that was never actually made. In the entire Christian corpus, the virgin birth is found only in the Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel of Luke.

[@Jesuslordoflords-y4m]

​@@EvilXtianityLuke follows Mary's genealogy, though he doesn't name any woman in his list. He therefore lists the name of Joseph(her husband) who was Heli's son-in-law.

[@jayraycrackerjack]

Christian apologists "You're taking it out of context!!!!!!!" Also Christian apologists " Well, if you take these verses out of context, Jesus perfectly fulfills all these prophecies."

[@ThatOne77]

When you lie, intelligent people tend to ignore you. Go somewhere else to try to look intelligent.

[@matthewwatkins7473]

It is indeed a sad day when those preaching the 'word of God' feel the need to misquote or quote out of context previous scripture to make their arguments. 😅😂😊😮

[@JPDeshaies-y3i]

Why Would he save a bunch of corrupted crooks😂😂😂😂😂

[@Marcelo.1927]

Yes and he does it perfectly

[@dwightfitch3120]

@@Marcelo.1927Why should anyone believe J fulfilled any prophecy,let alone perfectly. repeatedly insisting on something doesn’t make it true

[@JesusLied_ReadTheBible]

Without lies religion dies!

[@matildamarmaduke1096]

Sorta,,,,, it definitely would change alot.

[@marioterran0]

Wrong.

[@ronalddippenaar2381]

And with that the Jews claim to be the children of God.

[@johannjohann6523]

Oh my God, so where then do you get ethics and morals. As if the 10 Commandments were a bad thing. For anyone other than yourself that is. Enjoy it now, for soon things will be turning for the worst for you.

[@davidboatwright8322]

​@@marioterran0lol, they're actually very right.

[@mjt532]

Daniel 9:26-27 (the final "week") clearly describes the 7-year period from 171-164 BC, centered around the persecution of the Jews by Antiochus Epiphanes. Most scholars understand it that way. Everything fits, almost perfectly... even the destruction of city and sanctuary. (1 Maccabees 1:21ff, 1:29ff, 4:36ff.) The two key indicators here are the stopping of sacrifices and the abomination of desolation... both incredibly rare events, and both which undeniably describe Antiochus. (Compare Daniel 9:26 to Daniel 11:31. Both passages mention both of these events. Daniel 11:31 is about Antiochus Epiphanes.) The covenant is described in 1 Maccabees 1:11ff, 1:41ff. The "anointed" is the high priest Onias III, murdered in 171 BC. IT would be an unbelievable coincidence if these events had nothing to do with the persecutions in 160s BC, especially since all 4 visions in Daniel 7-12 appear to end about 165 or 164 BC.

[@exoplanet11]

@mjt532 Thanks, that's useful. Based on this, when would you say Daniel was written? Looks like it would be sometime after 164 BCE but before a detailed memory of these events was lost. Perhaps around 100BCE. Is there a historical consensus? And was the book added to (like Isaiah) or redacted much in the subsequent years?

[@mjt532]

@@exoplanet11 Most scholars date this passage around 165-164 BC... because the prophecy falls apart in 164 BC. That's what happens in all 4 visions (Daniel 7, 8, 9, 10-12)... everything goes perfectly until 165 BC, and the prophecy fails at this point. I don't know if anyone thinks there was substantial redaction after this period of time. Many scholars think that the prayer (Daniel 9:4-19) was not part of the original prophecy. We have very early copies, but not early enough to preclude any redaction.

[@cpom11]

He gave the simplest explanation of Daniel 9 I have heard yet...

[@ThinkitThrough-kd4fn]

The author of Daniel 9 is explaining why Jeremiah's prophecy failed. The apocalyptic prophets of Jesus' time then had to explain why Daniel's prophecy failed. Modern day believers keep coming up with new interpretations to try and make it work.

[@ryanrevland4333]

@@exoplanet11 If you're wondering how the prophecies fell apart, Daniel predicts Antiochus Epiphanes would die near Jerusalem. He died in Persia. Everything leading up to that detail is spot on because the author is writing after it happened. Given this info, we can date this portion of Daniel to just before the death of Antiochus.

[@ryanfristik5683]

Most of the prophecies arent even prophecies, they r just old testament saying ripped completly out of context. He did nothing the actual messiah was supposed to do

[@marioterran0]

Wrong.​@@jttj742

[@johannjohann6523]

If you don't think Jesus was real, just read "ACTA PILATE" the original letter found and authenticated by archaeologists from Pontius Pilate to Caeser (Tiberius) in Rome.

[@johannjohann6523]

And to think, Jesus even died for your sins. Someone who doesn't even appreciate it. Try talking to one (like myself) who have had a "near death" experience, or been to war and survived? Why do they always believe in God and Jesus? I'm not saying religion, which is a totally different thing. But it is hard to argue against the 10 Commandments. Or is that whole stealing and murder thing fine by you? The bible is actually been proven dozens and dozens of times to be historically accurate. Even if the Christians today don't know it.

[@knowledgeseeker-yy1ix]

@@johannjohann6523 go back throught the Old Testament and re read about the Messiah...then come back and tell me which passage directly states that the Messiah was supposed to die to save us from sins??

[@Jae_McZel_Leigh]

Not your audience, dude . Not your audience. Some settings are real, people, debatable.

[@LeeAskren-sh7br]

Derek, you've hit a home run. This is a masterful summary of the hackneyed "prophesies" we've been handed for so many years.

[@EdwardM-t8p]

But these are just 15; there are over 300 bogus "prophecies"

[@CEPrepper]

Sad. You swallow poison pills without any real knowledge.

[@johannjohann6523]

Or just as much bullshit as any prophecy.

[@whatwecalllife7034]

If Christians actually HONESTLY read the prophecies in context they would see that many of them aren't even prophecies to begin with. The ones that are prophecy, explicitly TELL YOU who the prophecy is for/about. They ignore that because they backwards read Jesus into the text, just like the gospel authors did when they used the LXX, instead of the extant Hebrew scriptures.

[@Trotoloko]

Yeah, exactly the same with "metaphors", "allegories" and all that nonsense.

[@anthonycarlisle6184]

What do they have to earliest whole? The Septuagent,

[@CEPrepper]

So Jesus told the guards to cast lots for his clothes at his crucifixion? To what? Fulfill a prophesy? Hey guys, do me a favor, I’m going to die anyway, to make this all more real, can you gamble over my stuff? Thanks. Haha

[@CRoadwarrior]

@whatwecalllife7034. And if unbelievers would actually HONESTLY look at the facts in greater detail, they would not listen to "mythvision" and all the deceptive claims made by someone totally unqualified to make the claims he does, and who deceptively presents only the "scholarship" that agrees with what he wants to present.

[@Trotoloko]

@CRoadwarrior Nah, we did when we were believers, and we reached the same conclusion as mythvision even by different meanings. Sorry, that your cognitive dissonance is still kicking, but you will be better once you learn that your identity is not subject to your sect but to you yourself.

[@dutchman6533]

Thanks Derek for the well informed and documented video! I like when you back your comments with historical data! Keep up the good work!

[@DanteFeliciano-i1q]

This dude is so dishonest. He makes a claim saying oh most “scholars agree on this” but doesn’t quote any scholars to back up his claims

[@pragmaticcrystal]

We Are MythVision‼️

[@dukedixon3192]

Debating a Christian is a waste of time unless you know the Bible well and use it to prove all their beliefs wrong, then it’s a blast. Because most of them just memorize the same verses and ignore everything else.

[@abedonwona8576]

Absolutely right. It is like they are programmed to ignore evidence contrary to their beliefs from the same bible. What an irony! Then they will, well it is your understanding when the statement in question clearly contradicts their assestion. It's mind boggling to say the least

[@nj1978]

Even then they will bend like a pretzel to justify the horrendous, evil god they believe in by making up new definitions for words , and just saying context , or allegory

[@JohnKerr-bq3vo]

well said.. someone wrote me that I shouldn't quote from Deuteronomy or Leviticus because 'christians' only subscribe to the NT ?... buybull is the best reference I have heard with regards to the bible myth...fits their delusional thinking

[@Marcelo.1927]

I know the bible very well debate me and I will end your godless arrogance😂 bring up some points

[@dukedixon3192]

@ how about the fact that Noah is a myth taken from previous cultures and is proven on cuneiform tablets. His original name is Zuisudra and all the same details the Bible plagiarized are in there down to the releasing of the birds.

[@ninam.6781]

Micah 5:2 "from you shall come forth for me one who is to be a ruler in Israel" when was Jesus even a ruler in Israel?

[@whatwecalllife7034]

Common Christian excuses are "typologies", "partial fulfillment", and metaphors, and grasping at straws such as "he was called a king" (to mock him), or he was a "spiritual king", or he "rules in Heaven".

[@Jesuslordoflords-y4m]

Isaiah 7:14 also describes the birth of Jesus and that His name is Immanuel. His name is not literally Immanuel, it is to show He is God and with us.

[@matildamarmaduke1096]

​@@Jesuslordoflords-y4mbut there was no vowels so that cant be true either now can it?

[@Jesuslordoflords-y4m]

@matildamarmaduke1096 obey the gospel to go to heaven. In the end it's as simple as that.

[@Vintage-Bob]

@@Jesuslordoflords-y4m That's apologist nonsense. There is no evidence Jesus even existed. There is literally not one single contemporaneous written account of his existence. None.

[@ThinkitThrough-kd4fn]

It's beyond preposterous to think that a first century Palestinian could trace his lineage back a thousand years or more. No one was keeping records, almost everyone was illiterate, and the population was subject to invasion and relocation on a regular basis.

[@suranramdass1885]

And to think about it,most of them were tent dwelling goat herding nomads.😂😂

[@Ken_Scaletta]

But rich people could still have genealogies made for them claiming descendancy from anyone they wanted, including gods. Julius Caesar claimed to be descended from Venus.

[@ryanrevland4333]

Conveniently the genealogies were available in the LXX, so Matt and Luke were free to piece together their contradictory accounts.

[@johannjohann6523]

Jesus was NOT Palestinian. Just where is this mythical land called Palestine? As it does not exist on any map. The term you are looking for is "Judea". Which goes back to 1,500 BC. There has never been a "Palestine" except in the "Palestinians" minds. And look how well that has worked out for them.

[@Ken_Scaletta]

@johannjohann6523 Palestine is a word universally used by scholars and historians to refer to the entire region inclusive of Judea, Galilee and the territories of Philip during the time of Jesus. They were three different countries at the time. Scholars use the term "Palestine" completely as a geographical designation not a political one. It's only talking about the land. Galilee was in the region of Palestine. This is universally the term used by Scholars and historical. The region was never called Israel before the 20th Century. It was called Palestine by Herodotus in the 5th Century BCE. You don't know what you're talking about and are injecting modern politics and personal bigotry into a subject you know nothing about.

[@mr.spider267]

Nobody ever can show a prophecy being fulfilled in real time. They're always looking backwards. No wonder they never miss, until you see they aren't even real prophetic predictions.

[@wesbaumguardner8829]

I prophecy that at least one wave will crash on the ocean shore tomorrow. There, I have prophesied something will come true with as much specificity as any bible prophesy.

[@CEPrepper]

Wrong. When something is written down and kept for thousands of years and then it becomes true that is prophet fulfilled. God has shown it time and time again in His word. Sorry you’re blind.

[@wesbaumguardner8829]

@CEPrepper 1) You do not know when/where these stories were written and who was the author. 2) you do not know if and when they were fulfilled. You are relying on the bible to tell you both the prophesy and when/how it came true without looking at any outside sources to corroborate the truth of the claims. 3) Most of these prophesies are so vague, they leave it open to interpretation, while allowing for numerous events to fulfill them. Just because one event fulfills a prediction does not preclude an another event or multiple other events from fulfilling the requirements of the prophesy.

[@CEPrepper]

@@wesbaumguardner8829 wrong again. There have been copies of the Torah for thousands of years years before Christ. Copies of the Prophets professing what is to come only to have it come true SPECIFICALLY by date, time, person, location and typically more than one of those. You all think you’re so smart discrediting what has been accredited by thousands of people over thousands of years. Like the copies of Torah, Roman decrees and laws, Greek authors, Arabic scrolls, just poof showed up 200 years ago. Hell you’re trying to rewrite history now by tearing down monuments and calling the slave trade of triangle the first slaves in history. History cannot be rewritten just because you don’t believe the book it was written in or by whom it was written. Sorry. Doesn’t work that way.

[@wesbaumguardner8829]

@@pascalbedard4191 War is a constant throughout human history. There has never been a time when the whole world was free of war. As such, there is always war and rumors of war. This is like saying "Tomorrow, water will be wet." Yes, tomorrow, water will be wet and this is not a prophesy at all. There are always going to be people willing to lie, cheat, and steal for wealth and/or power. Thus, the mythos of the Jesus character and the fact that a great many people have been duped into believing in it means that there will literally always be numerous people claiming to either be Jesus reincarnate or speak with Jesus for their own personal benefit. This is another "Water will be wet tomorrow" prophesy, which is no prophesy at all. Tomorrow, someone will die in an automobile accident. Tomorrow, someone is going to cheat on their spouse. Tomorrow, the sun is going to shine somewhere. All of these claims are true. Only they are more specific than the claims made by the bible because there is at least a date to when the claim is being made. I could reword all of these claims with verbose language and take out the word tomorrow with the same exact effect as these "bible prophesies."

[@CrazyRealm55]

Christian: "God is not the author of confusion" Me: "God is not the author of the Bible"

[@kimbronun6649]

God confused the languages of those who were building the tower

[@sebfettel]

Apparently you've never read it. You should

[@johannjohann6523]

If you don't think Jesus was real, just read "ACTA PILATE" the original letter found and authenticated by archaeologists from Pontius Pilate to Caeser (Tiberius) in Rome.

[@thetruth871]

for some people just like yourself, who says that God is not the author of the Bible, Iam sorry to say. But for those who have received the Holy Spirit? God is definitely the Author of the Bible. Friend please read this, in 1 Corinthians 2:14-16 King James Version (KJV) But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

[@CrazyRealm55]

@thetruth871 What you're saying is in denial of the facts. The "Holy Spirit" has led Christians in so many different directions that your God would absolutely be the "author of confusion". Do you know how many denominations there are? Look it up. Then you have offshoots that you would label as cults. What you said is laughable and tragic at the same time. Matthew, btw, is a bold faced liar!

[@evondemil5608]

"He's not the Messiah, he's a naughty boy!!!" ~ Brian's mum

[@maritaberndt6200]

I just rewatched it. I like to watch The Life of Brian about this time. Very Christmasy for me. It seems quite prophetic now, eh, Loretta?

[@thesheffinator7124]

Never was a truer word spoken. In fact I believe they put it there deliberately. It's not just a throwaway line. Have you seen the "Saturday Night Sunday Morning. LOB discussion with Cleese and Palin vs. Stockwood and Muggeridge from '79 I think? Hosted by Tim Rice, it's a classic, and easy to find. Enjoy.

[@JM-qi9vw]

There are many Jesus in Mexico, they get confused about which one you're praying to 😂

[@johannjohann6523]

If you don't think Jesus was real, just read "ACTA PILATE" the original letter found and authenticated by archaeologists from Pontius Pilate to Caeser (Tiberius) in Rome.

[@k-man1481]

"Jesus" is a translation. It was an extremely common name 😅

[@jackflash128]

ha ha si

[@michaelmcgee8543]

Worshipping a human is insane.

[@CEPrepper]

Glad us Christians worship a God then. What do you worship? Yourself? Science? Money? Worshiping nothing or anything man made or man invented is insanity.

[@talonanthony]

Question everything, worship nothing.

[@warriorofthelord4142]

@@talonanthony That is what fools say

[@DreamMonster7]

They worshiped Jim Jones as well.

[@dwightfitch3120]

@@CEPrepperPlease tell us,oh “wise” one,how not believing you is insane. Why don’t you actually do some work and show the details of what you claim? And that doesn’t mean to start a cascade of more assertions

[@sanmcnellis94]

Makes me nauseous just listening to Christian liars.

[@Marcelo.1927]

You are liars we are not

[@JonS]

@Christus.2004 great response. I used to hear those kind of responses on the school playground.

[@mjt532]

What strikes me as incomprehensible about Psalm 22... according to many Christians, God inspired the Psalmist to write this prophecy in order to demonstrate that Jesus was the real deal. So, God had the ability to foresee and/or preordain the crucifixion, in order to validate Jesus. Yet somehow God didn't think it was necessary to make sure that that one word (the word translated as "they pierced") was faithfully preserved for us... the single most important word in the passage, by a longshot. Without "they pierced," this passage should not impress anyone. Not only is this word the most important word in this Psalm, it's the single most important word in the entire OT, in deciding whether Jesus really fulfilled prophecy. And we don't know how it should be translated!

[@ottosponring5534]

And Psalms are not even prophesies. If they were then everything in it should match.

[@warriorofthelord4142]

@@ottosponring5534No one need to learn to rightly divide scriptures and it is impossible without God himself leading you and speaking with you. There are so many codes in there that believe me you cannot imagine and power of it

[@RightOnBro72]

@mjt532, indeed, Psalms are not prophecies -- they're literally "songs." And Psalm 22 was written by David, so we know the person who was crying to "My God, My God..." Also, the word "pierced" isn't in a Hebrew translation. JPS says "Like a lion, they are at my hands and my feet." So, the word "pierced" is a Christian insertion.

[@ottosponring5534]

@@warriorofthelord4142 Just reading what is translated in English (better in the original if you can) no need to invoke God or he had made it more clear when "engaged" in writing. Psalms are no prophesies and OT is a random collection of old mythical stories. One can interpreted them but why not trying to understand what Jesus was saying rather then spending time in old tales.

[@warriorofthelord4142]

@@ottosponring5534 Trust me there is much we do not know and you would be surprised when you finally see it. And if you started to read carefully any part of the Bible you would realize there is only confusion without God and we can see that in world everywhere

[@_.Sparky._]

This is so good. I’ve been waiting for one video countering many of these supposed prophecies. Thank you 🙏🏻

[@Marcelo.1927]

This is the most trash video I've ever seen

[@judygodwin8886]

He usually uses the Hebrew translation, but in this case, it appears he used the NRSV that says, “for half of the week”. It doesn’t say the sacrifices would stop “for half the week” in almost all the scriptures, including the ancient Hebrew. The verse actually reads, “in the midst of the week”. It says in the “midst of the week” in almost every ancient scripture. And if he would have put the entire verse, it says it would continue until the consummation which means a full end. The Interlinear Bible says, until the end. He almost always puts up the entire verse, but in this case, he uses the … which in my opinion shows that he didn’t want to show the entire verse, because it would have debunked the “for half a week” business, in that it says “until the consummation” at the end of the verse. I’m very disappointed in MythVision. Why didn’t he show all the ancient texts like he usually does? Why didn’t he use the ancient Hebrew like he usually does. And why the … instead of showing the entire verse.

[@marcouno4118]

I had no idea Jesus looked so European. Thought he would look Middle Eastern

[@K-hi7ed]

Hes part of the Tribe of judah, fairer skinned middle easterns for the most part

[@marcouno4118]

@ I see. Are there many sources describing his appearance?

[@K-hi7ed]

@@marcouno4118 sorry more olive or tanned skin tone to be exact but not european white

[@K-hi7ed]

@@marcouno4118 not much sources at all, were just guessing really

[@marcouno4118]

@@K-hi7ed Yes. I guess there’s a lot of bias involved. Followers want him to look similar to themselves.

[@davidbradberry7637]

Derek consider making this presentation in a DVD format. Shalom

[@jamesgrosrenaudjr812]

No wonder i can’t find Jesus in the Old Testament.

[@matildamarmaduke1096]

Oh no 😮 you didn't look there for Jesus did you

[@matildamarmaduke1096]

Best comment

[@shanegooding4839]

He's Jesus the Risen in the Septuagint. If he was historical this forerunner was certainly an influence if not the source.

[@ANewBeggining-so1wp]

Please explain, where in the Septuagint?

[@CEPrepper]

If you seek, you will find. Try watching a video called “Jesus in the Old Testament”. Or better yet, read it. Pray over it and reflect on it. Maybe God will cure ignorance.

[@suranramdass1885]

It's gone over 2000 years and there's still no sign of Jesus's return.🤔

[@grahamlindsay1263]

I like to think he's a little less than 2000 light years away

[@juliekeeney1538]

He already came

[@MoveInSilence23]

Well... No Jesus No Rapture No World without End ...it's all horseshit

[@MrDalisclock]

He got held up in traffic

[@CEPrepper]

Guess what, the Bible says that too! Keep scoffing and mocking. I hope you figure it out before it’s too late.

[@TouchTheUniverse]

He was prophesized to come exactly 483 years - and He came to the day. Look up the prophecies of Dainel.

[@BibliayFe]

You do live debates?

[@Marcelo.1927]

It won't help 😂 look at those brain rot comments those people even deny the most basic evidence

[@KeithOrchard]

To claim that Matthew is saying that Jesus is fulfilling prophecy is to misread scripture. What Matthew appears to say is that Jesus fulfils scripture. Now, what does that mean? Many biblical scholars point out that it could mean giving fuller meaning or even an expanded meaning? So, saying Jesus fulfilled prophecy could be just plain biblically wrong in the case of Matthew’s gospel

[@ryanfristik5683]

The zechariah 9 also says he will be triumphant, and taking away the sword of ephriam and the warhorse from Jerusalem. Did that happen?? Peace, no they were detroyed. Also the author of matthew had no idea of hebrew, as he has Jesus sitting on 2 donkeys lol what a joke

[@henrybraxton4437]

HIS Mercy endures forever! YAHUSHUA is The WAY, The TRUTH, and The LIFE; No man comes to the FATHER (YAHUAH), but by HIM!

[@andybryant3052]

Here's all I need to know. The son of God that by many was purported to be a rabbi and was so prophetic that he taught elders, left absolutely zero writings. He was illiterate, and any first-hand disciples or others with knowledge of this "Son of God" must have been illiterate, too. There are zero first-hand accounts of his existence. Can you imagine JFK, but he was illiterate, and no one existed that had ever met him and was capable of writing down their dealings with him. But he was the leader of the free world. There's no reason to believe he wasn't created to foil the Jews because they were such a thorn in Rome's side.

[@matildamarmaduke1096]

Thorns would feel like silk compared to the reality.

[@harbinger7469]

Jesus quoted the Bible all the time. You think an illiterate person could recall scripture in a random moment that fits the situation? Must be another miracle then.

[@andybryant3052]

@harbinger7469 seems a little contrived. You've got a wonderful imagination 🌈

[@harbinger7469]

@andybryant3052 i dont think you know what that word means. Maybe your hat is too small.

[@andybryant3052]

@@harbinger7469 i see I've touched a nerve about your insecurities.

[@GlorifiedTruth]

Honestly, if I saw someone riding into town on a donkey, I would rejoice regardless of whether I thought he was the messiah.

[@starpenta]

The argument that 'most scholars agree' is a stupid argument, IMO. First, most does not mean all. 2nd, at the end of the day, there are no concurrent extra-biblical accounts for him, the books written about him were too late to be eyewitness accounts, and the stories about him are either like stories of other dying/rising deities or in some cases, a few are written so they can be tied to OT prophecies.

[@michaelchampion936]

Also, most scholar of the new testament claim Jesus to be the son of god and a god himself, as most are Christians. It's just like most koranic scholars think Muhammed was the last messenger of god.

[@matildamarmaduke1096]

And explain the branchs

[@CEPrepper]

Wrong. The books written about him were written by eye itnesses in their lifetime and within 40 years of his death that we have found so far. A new discovery may put that to within a decade. Also, there a Roman documents, and historians that saw Jesus, felt with him, and witnessed some portion of His life that collaborate it. I can Josephus wrote about his crucifixion which was also documents in formal Roman documents. Next..?

[@starpenta]

@CEPrepper you have been misled. Again, there are no Roman records that say anything about him. There are some that mention Christians but not Jesus himself. And if they bothered to crucify him, you would think they would have. About Josephus, the statement he made about Jesus is doubtful that it was written by him bc it pretty much says he lived and died for us. So why did he remain a Jew if he had written and believed that? In another verse he writes something like James, brother of Jesus, was walking down the street with (?). 2 things 1. Was that brother as in brother in Christ or 2. There were other Jesus' at the time, including a Jesus et Ben that did try to start something but was killed by Roman guards during a scuffle. IDK where you read that tvere were gospels that were contemporary to his supposed life but I haven't heard that any gospels that were contemporary to his life have ever been found. And I've read that several times by different sources. Besides, even if there was a gospel found only ten years after he died, memories are not reliable, if they were fishermen they would have been illiterate, none of them would know the birth story and there are times that stuf is written only the subject would know, not the author. BTW, read each gospel 1-5 chapters at a time. Compare and contrast. I dare you. It will be an eye-opening experience.

[@starpenta]

@@CEPrepper, IDK who mislead you but according to many PhD sources that have studied this subject, the book of Mark would have been earliest, and it was around 40 years later. But even if we were to believe that the gospels were written by the disciples ten years after, 1. they were fishermen so the likihood that they could read or write is none. 2. even if they relayed the story to someone who could...memories are faulty, especially in older people, and there were things mentioned they could not have possibly known. For example, how would they know what happened when he was born, or what he said to the fig tree when they weren't there, or what he said when he was alone in the Garden of Gethsemane? There are no Roman records of Jesus. There are a few 1st or 2nd century historians that wrote about the Christians, but nothing about Jesus himself. Josephus writings were problematic. If he thought Jesus were a real person that died and resurrected, then why did he remain a Jew? A challenge for you. Read each gospel chapters 1 & 2 at a time...compare and contrast them. You will have an eye-opening experience.

[@judygodwin8886]

The Daniel 9:26, 27 says the sanctuary “and the city” would be destroyed. The era you described, it was only the sanctuary that was overtaken and they were still sacrificing, but their enemies were sacrificing pigs. But the entire city wasn’t completely destroyed until 70 CE, and the sacrifices ceased permanently. This is described in almost all biblical versions. It says “the city and the sanctuary would be destroyed” in verse 26 and then in verse 27 it says, “in the midst of the week” the sacrifice would cease for all overspreading of abominations, even until the consummation, (until the end). This backs up Isaiah 66:3 which calls the sacrifices an abomination.

[@Deconstruction_Zone]

1 maccabees 1:29-32 Two years later the king sent to the cities of Judah a chief collector of tribute, and he came to Jerusalem with a large force. 30Deceitfully he spoke peaceable words to them, and they believed him; but he suddenly fell upon the city, dealt it a severe blow, and destroyed many people of Israel. 31He plundered the city, burned it with fire, and tore down its houses and its surrounding walls. 32They took captive the women and children, and seized the livestock.

[@judygodwin8886]

Interestingly, the scholars are still not sure about when the Maccabean took place. There are a lot of similarities in the names of the characters involved in both eras, such as Judas, Mattathias, Simon, Jonathan. Some scholars think the stories in the Maccabean period and the New Testament period could very well be one event during the same period. One of the Oldest Bibles that wrote of the Maccabean period is unfortunately the Septuagint and there are no originals of the actual book of the Maccabees. Unfortunately, after two thousand years, we have so many corrupted scriptures, mistakes, mistranslations, we can’t know for sure.

[@keniseligasio203]

GOOD TEACHING

[@KarmasAB123]

"This would be a ten hour video!" Don't tempt me with a good time

[@mdug7224]

The first hurdle is the messiah descending from David. Joseph is supposedly a descendant of David. He has two different patriarchal family trees and is not even the father. That is unless the first author of Mark had no intention of Yeshua being of divine, virgin birth and Joseph is the actual father.

[@CEPrepper]

Nope. Mary is the defendant of David. Not Joseph. The bloodline of Adam was corrupted by his sin. Thus the MALE bloodline needed to be pure / God not man. Mary is a defendant of David thus keeping the promise. And fulfilling the prophesy.

[@mdug7224]

@CEPrepper Nope. Read your bible. What you just said is later excuse, made-up apologetics.

[@CEPrepper]

@@mdug7224 it’s literally in the lineage accounts. You all try to take away the facts that Jews back then could trace their ancestors back 20 generations my memory by the time they were 5. And if they lied about it, the whole community would chastise them and call them a liar. Not like today where you can just make up whatever bs you want like - nope that’s a lie because I said so and I don’t believe what’s written in front of my face for 4000 years because CNN didn’t say it’s true.

[@Edawgg1983]

The only kind of prophecy is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[@nogodsnomasters666]

I haven't watched the video yet, but I already like it.

[@troysuu1781]

Loving this so far!

[@ChildofGod315]

Jesus I need you. As a single mother I’m overwhelmed. Both of my sons have special needs and I struggle desperately trying to support them. I put my children first, no matter how tired I am. Jesus continue to give me strength to keep going as I struggle, to provide financially for my children, please grant me grace💕

[@unicyclist97]

Jesus isn't giving you anything. You need to vote for politicians who will build a system that supports everyone.

[@dmurphy5689]

@@unicyclist97 I agree about Jesus, but voting is a ruse - the illusion of choice. Its all a sinister game with hidden agendas. Things are about to get real ugly because too many sheeple are "waiting" on a savior (Jesus, Trump etc) to fix everything, by design. Manipulated stand down tactics. No one is coming to save us. WE ARE IT!

[@matthewwatkins7473]

My heart goes to you. Whatever will give you that strength, I hope you will find it.

[@catelynh1020]

I always thought that if it felt shoehorned in, it was immediately suspect. For example, why care about joseph's lineage when he contributed 0% to the child born? Why would a census be ran at a time they wouldn't have done that, and despite knowing beforehand that that would force the very young and old alike to travel great distances if they'd left home, and overflow the city because the city wasn't meant for that many people? Why flee to egypt with a woman who just gave birth and a newborn infant instead of going off the grid for a bit (remember, this was back when you could just disappear by going a town over)?

[@extemporaneous4545]

And Jesus couldn't be said to be descended from King David's line because Jews, then and today, claim descent only through the male line. It was only sometime in the Jewish diaspora in Europe that the injunction that one could only be a Jew if one's mother was a Jew was inserted. This was to prevent the men from marrying shikshas, because the women could be strictly controlled and be given in marriage only to Jewish men. So the Jew claims his identity from the man his mother has relations with to conceive him. It is still a line of male descent. So whether in the first century or now, Jesus doesn't fulfill this most important requirement to be the "Messiah".

[@xMeLLoWinD]

Oh man I love your content! You should do the same for the Quran as well! Debunk it!

[@banba317]

It is undeniably clear that it's easy to "fulfill" a prophecy intentionally... as some NT passages even state there are things Jesus did, "... in order that the prophesies might be fulfilled!" And there are numerous examples of ham-handed attempts by the NT authors to fabricate events, times and places, in order to conform to OT passages they deemed prophetic. In addition, many of the OT passages alleged to be prophesies were NOT in any way shape or form ever MEANT to be prophesies! Many of them are specific to events and people CONTEMPORARY to the time period in which they were written!

[@CEPrepper]

He didn’t do them to fulfill prophesy the way you say. He is God. He fulfilled them to fulfill them, not to make people believe but to 1 keep His word that it would happen as He said it would and 2 that once it happened as done and people discovered that it was fulfillment they would believe he was the messiah (Jews). He only cared about prophecy to the Jews - no one else on earth would have known riding a Donkey into the city meant anything.

[@banba317]

@@CEPrepper Your logic is comically childish. No one "discovered" that he fulfilled any prophesies until 40, 50, 70, years AFTER his death, when they Were TOLD he fulfilled them by the Evangelists. Also funny, in Mark 10:18 Jesus separates himself from being god pretty explicitly. He says, "Why callest thou me good? There is only one who is good; that is god." When the authors of the gospels say he did these things, "... in order that the prophesies be fulfilled," I'll take them at their word.

[@Marcelo.1927]

It's not easy if it is then do it to do 8 alone of tbe 350 it's a 0 with like Dozens of zero

[@CEPrepper]

@ finally seeing some believers in the comment section. I’ve been rebuking this nonsense.

[@banba317]

@@Marcelo.1927 Feel free to try again after you complete your English As A Second Language Course.

[@jaynixon1205]

“Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭1‬:‭21‬-‭23‬ ‭NLT‬‬ John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life repent and believe in the Gospel Christ is real ❤️

[@DomainofKnowlegdia]

The figure of Jesus Christ is mythological indeed as he was crafted by the post second temple messianic Jews who were inspired by martyrs and Apocolyotic prophets and other figures that lived from 20 BCE to 70 CE. And other monastic movements. The new testament canon and non coninical books contain a more symbolic narratives that were not mean to be taken literally simply fiction and legends and myths that evolved over time.

[@matildamarmaduke1096]

Sorta

[@GeorgekwessiDavis]

Thanks for the excellent documentary. ❤

[@edgarsnake2857]

I wouldn't call riding on a donkey fulfilling a prophecy. Or getting killed. Or being betrayed by a friend. If those prophecies were the standard, there were an awful lot of partial messiahs floating around.

[@shanegooding4839]

Matthew tried to make it into a prophecy by saying he entered on Two donkeys because there's a link in the OT between a donkey, it's foal, and the living vine. Matthew was the most inventive when it comes to these prophecies.

[@CEPrepper]

Cool. Hey smart guy. Name one other person in history where all three of those things happened and were document d by multiple people? I’ll wait.

@@CEPrepperdude it’s a script like a movie script anyone can write those things into existence if their writing about a story nobody living can prove those things happened. And donkeys don’t talk either

[@CEPrepper]

I’ll give you a million dollars if you write 50 original sayings that the entire world uses or has heard of in even heard of in 50 years. Lest alone 2000. Here’s the kicker. You also have to hide them in the desert and can only tell them to 12 people before they are discovered again.

[@Matthew_Scan]

Bethula and Alma mean the same thing

[@chroniclesoflucifer]

Derek, so grateful that you decided to share your journey. The MVP courses are truly a gift from the goddess above.❤

[@777Treeoflife]

56:22 - Your wrong when you say they have no explanation. A quick google search would show that of Daniel 9, the prophecy is believed to be linked to that of the Son of Lawlessness. The prince is the antichrist. The end to offering is shown in the new testament when the third temple will be built in Israel.

[@hannahhodgins9516]

That already happened. The end times already happened. The third temple was never built Because religion is false

[@mrmorpheus9707]

Facts changes feelings! Feelings....dont change facts!

[@snowisthebestweather]

1) The lists do not contradict each other. They show two different lines. Matthew's list exists solely to show that Jesus is not a biological son of Joseph. Jeconiah was cursed to never have a descendant sitting on the throne (Jeremiah 22:28-30). As for the time issue, we clearly see that there are skips in the list of names. As one example, Matthews list jumps from Josiah to Jeconiah even though Jehoiakim most definitely comes between the two. Is this some sort of error? No. Why did Matthew leave Jehoiakim out? I don't know. This also solves the problem of the offspring of Zerubbabel. There could be a rather large skip between Zerubbabel and Abiud and Rhesa. I don't know why we need to _assume_ that a genealogy was kept. Genealogy was hugely important for the Jews, both for tracking the coming Messiah and also for the priests. 2) You're contradicting your own sources. You say almah doesn't mean virgin. Your sources say it doesn't _necessarily_ mean virgin, but it could. So then what about Luke 1:34 in which Mary asks the angel, "'How will this be since I do not know a man?'" (in the Greek), "knowing" being a very common euphemism for sex throughout the Bible. That sounds like a virgin. Same thing in Matthew 24-25, which says that Joseph took Mary as a wife, "but knew her not until she had given birth to a son." Also, the importance of the name Immanuel is not the name itself, but what it means: "God with us," which is what Jesus's physical incarnation was. Another common thread throughout the BIble is things having multiple fulfillments. Isaiah probably did have a literal son named Immanuel, and if some random scholar today were to point to this verse as a prophecy of Christ, then yeah, it would count as out of context. Except it wasn't just some random scholar today, it was Matthew, divinely inspired to pick that verse and tell us plainly that that was prophetic. 3) I don't see where this contradiction between Matthew and Luke supposedly is. Both clearly say He was born in Bethlehem (Matt 2:1 and Luke 2:11), and later returned to Nazareth (Matt 2:19 and Luke 2:39). Why does Luke leave out the flight to Egypt? I don't know, but that doesn't make it a contradiction. Why doesn't Matthew mention Jesus's family being from Nazareth originally? I don't know, but again, it doesn't make it a contradiction. As for this E.P. Sanders, just the first line of his Wikipedia page says all I need to know about him: "Ed Parish Sanders FBA (April 18, 1937 - November 21, 2022) was a *liberal and secularized* New Testament scholar" (emphasis added), and Bart Ehrman's whole thing is being a skeptic.

[@NineGoddessproductions]

Get Wes huf on here , that dude is on a high horse right now

[@neviswarren]

It would be more convincing if he showed up today. Cruise through a children's hospital healing, then drop by the city morgue and raise a few folks with doctors and journalists in tow on live stream. That would be a little more credible than 2,000 year old unsubstantiated legends. Can you imagine the Vegas show version?

[@0thewatcher0]

1:14:51 is this an English translation translated from another translation that was translated from the Hebrew? If so could you tell me from what translation that Hebrew version was transcribed or at least the years and by who so that I can check myself? was asking about the last but if possible i would like all of them, thanks in advance as im not very good at researching

[@stephenford3359]

Are you talking about the Wisdom of Solomon text?

[@0thewatcher0]

@@stephenford3359 well what I'm actually curious about is the translations in general not so much the context. I'm trying to understand where Christianities practices originate from more than the context of the present day books. I have looked over different religious ways of being and philosophical practices over my life but i know/feel there is an original, that's why i asked for that information. When i look at present day ideologies and then look at history so finding the closest thing to an original thought is important and helps me to incorporate better ways of being into my life...least thats the short answer to a question that you didn't ask lol.

[@justme00155]

Jesus Christ is King

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

Of the Jews. At best.

[@mrrolandlawrence]

Elvis will always been the king.

[@cowboybrown2356]

Ezekiel chapter 45 states that the messiah will make a sin offering for "HIMSELF" and the people. Ezekiel 45:22 On that day the prince is to provide a bull as a sin offering for himself and for all the people of the land. And yet Jesus was said to have never sinned, interesting?

[@whatwecalllife7034]

Christians don't read their own damn book that the stole and added to

[@matildamarmaduke1096]

Isnt it,

[@warriorofthelord4142]

@@cowboybrown2356 Yes He was the offering the spotless Lamb sacrificed for whole world

[@SeekingTruth2023]

Interesting. Thanks for pointing that out....

[@sebfettel]

Whats the jews name that made this video

[@iamVJLopez]

Regarding the Isaiah 53 prophecy: Christians believe in only one messiah. But there’s a messiah already mentioned in Isaiah 45:1 “…to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have grasped…”. *Anointed* in Hebrew translates to messiah. Christians should be worshiping Cyrus king of Persia, I guess.

[@Ken_Scaletta]

"Messiah" in the Bible does not have a special meaning for only one unique person. It was a word used for all kings and high priests, or occasionally someone else chosen by God. All it really means is "chosen by God." It's not as special in Judaism as it is in Christianity.

[@iamVJLopez]

⁠@@Ken_Scalettacorrect! That was a huge concept to grasp when re-examining the Bible. It slipped past me for years that Cyrus was being called a messiah. That completely went against my understanding and beliefs.

[@CEPrepper]

No it doesn’t. An outed means anointed. Saul was anointed, David, Jacob, all the judges, all the current and past people in power have been anointed by God to rule for the time and place they ruled. Next…?

[@iamVJLopez]

@@CEPrepper the word לִמְשִׁיחוֹ֮ translates to “mashiach” which is messiah in English. Sorry buddy.

[@CEPrepper]

@ sorry buddy. You’re mistaking the verb “to anoint” with the root word noun “messiah”. Grammer matters.

[@gunswnc]

Did Rabbi Tovia Singer write this??

[@TheMarksT]

Yep! A fictional character according to the fiction that made him up, too! Thanks!

[@tomcat4321]

Jesus was your regular dude who used to preach. After his death, stores are made up and made him look supernatural and eventually son of god to suit the political needs of Romans.. If Jesus was presented as a regular prophet, Roman population will not accept him. If he is presented as a son of God that did miracles similar to Roman Gods, then it is more palatable to regular Roman Joe on the streets. One thing is for sure. After Roman Empire adopted Christianity, they declined and anything that went against Bible was considered heretical. Basically critical thinking and innovation stopped.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

Yep, western degeneration started when Europe started worshipping a middle eastern cult leader.

[@Margo714P]

Even with a roadmap (the OT), the NT gospel writers couldn't get it right.

[@jeffnoble9757]

Jesus was also confused about his return, Matthew 16:27:28 Jesus said that some of his immediate followers would still be alive when he returns!

[@FraterL]

Jesus the Sun of God returns during the Spring Equinox (Easter) when the sun of God defeats the evil forces of darkness and brings longer days and spring lol. It’s true and symbolic

[@josephthomasjr.6551]

May the QUEEN and the King of MythVision reign for a long, LONG time!!!

[@jbchoc]

I generally do not believe what Nazis say, but I find that Derek here does a good job.

[@PhilDrury]

"I'm NOT the Messiah!" "Only the Messiah would deny being the Messiah!" "Alright, I AM the MEssiah!" "HE IS THE MESSIAH!"

[@dennisjoiner4164]

That is a good one. I see the Life of Brian is still well quoted.

[@maritaberndt6200]

😂❤

[@Dr_Lipschitz]

This is Billy Carson level stuff

[@stevewebber707]

How can the old testament messianic prophecies be about Jesus, if the Judaic idea of a Messiah is drastically different than the Christian revisionist idea. A prophecy does not meaningfully predict something, if the relevant terms of the prophecy are redefined to match reality.

[@Antbo4ReV0Lt]

Thaaank you for this work of art bro!!!

[@wolfie5]

Absolute top class work on the video

[@allentobolewski7273]

WHO'S THE SINNER? I'm just saying, If Yahushua offered himself up for a Human sacrifice, a sin offering for all, then Yahushua was a sinner. Why? To break YHWH's Torah is Sin. YHWH PROHIBITS human sacrifices. Lev 18:21, 24-25; Deut 18:10; Jer 7:31, 19:5; Ezek 23:37,39. YHWH makes it perfectly clear that no one can die for anyone else's sins. Exod 32:31-33; Num 35:33; Deut 24:16; II Kgs 14:6; Jer 31:30; Ezek 18:4,20; Ps 49:7. So did Yahushua stick his tongue out at YHWH and actually go against YHWH and commit a sin and die for nothing? YHWH forgave sin many many many times in the Tanakh. I.E. only 3, Kings Manasseh and David, and the city of Ninavah. No human blood, no animal blood,,, JUST GRACE AND LOVE. So YHWH was RIGHT for the first 4,000 years, never gave up HIS power to forgive sin, and said that HE will never change HIS Torah. It's all in there, but you have to read YHWH's words and believe them. But it's not over yet. About 75-120 CE some unknown Greeks wrote their gospel with the story that, YHWH, the creator of it all, GOT IT WRONG ! ? YHWH forgave and still forgives. YHWH's my shepherd, I shall not want.

[@multipolarworld23]

Common sense can debunk these religious lies. You don't have to be an historian, or read this fantastical man written book of imagination.

Facts I said the same thing, then your comment pops up 😂 I ask Christians all the time why this god give us a brain but don’t want us to ask questions or use it to gain knowledge and understanding. The Bible is a psychological book about the human mind body and spirit has nothing to do with some imaginary man

[@Marcelo.1927]

Where does it say God doesn't want us to ask things? 😂

[@ADAM_sigma]

Fellas, has there ever been a single discussion of the Bible without the mention of the word "corrupted"? All due to respect, as Muslims, we find that to be so alien of a concept.

[@xiuhcoatl4830]

You're lying and we know it. This isn't a christian audience, we know well the history of the adaptations and translations of the quran and the whole mess it was... So pretty much is just as "corrupted" as the bible

[@meatloafhead]

Someone really smart should compile a list of every single prophecy put upon Jesus and show via a cartoon or drawings just how many 100s of things should have or would of happened to Jesus, like being starving AND eating all the time, being on the cross for days yet only a few hours, also at different times of the day, getting attacked by animals in the garden while with a naked boy and praying etc etc… if anyone gets what I’m saying, we should get this out for someone really educated on this to try and do it.. it would be worth a million times what words can describe

[@matildamarmaduke1096]

They say it font matter snd get mad as hell.....reslly mad

[@warriorofthelord4142]

@@meatloafhead You have all you need here already even more than enough

[@Matthew_Scan]

Immanuel means God among us , then Jews say God can’t be a man

[@stephenford3359]

Immanuel, meaning “God is with us,” is no more of a ‘divine name’ than any of the other ancient Hebrew names used at the time. For instance… Abiel “God is my father” Abijah “my father is Yahweh” Eliakim “God rises” Elisha “My God is salvation” Hoshea “Salvation” Jehiel “God will live” Orel “light of God” Uzziel “my power is God”

[@brianharris7243]

Scribe writes prophecy in old book...later scribe reads old book and writes a fantasy to make it come true. The new book is fan fiction.

[@chainedmindsasylum]

💪This was very well done Derek🥊💥

[@Reneemamma]

Has any bible prophecy been spot on accurate? And if it was, was truly written before the actual event or most likely written afterwards to make it seem true.

[@JesusLied_ReadTheBible]

Since it failed it was probably written before, or was likely actually said by Jesus.

[@matildamarmaduke1096]

🐂💩

[@mikepotts2470]

Awesome thank you

[@Ezekiel365Days]

This is for Christians, Muslims, Hebrew Israelites, Jews and Mormons who are holding onto this Jesus/Isa as the messiah card. When the real messiah comes whom ever he is according to the tanakh. What HaMashiach will be. 1. The greatest prophet in history, second only to Moses 2. Torah observant. 3. A human being that will possess normal physical attributes like other people. 4. A child of human parents both from the tribe of Judah only and none from Levi. 5. A descendant of both David and King Solomon. 6. A militant warrior 7. Anointed with oil by the levitical priest to become a real king and not by mere claims 8. A political figure. 9. A husband to a wife 10. Fertile and have sons. 11. A teacher of the full knowledge of HaShem 12. A man (messenger/servant) of HaShem 13. A creation of Hashem 14. A man who will repent of his sins and learn form them and be made righteous 15. Filled with the spirit of wisdom. 16. Filled with the spirit of understanding 17. Filled with the spirit of counsel 18. Filled with the spirit of might 19. Filled with the fear (reverence) of HaShem What HaMashiach will not be 1. A demi-god (part God and part man) 2. Sinless 3. The visible image of the invisible “God” 4. A human blood sacrifice 5. A sin atonement for the whole world 6. A possessor of supernatural qualities. 7. A carpenter 8. HaShem incarnate 9. A possessor of holes in both his hands 10. A failure to the messianic prophecies (the 365 prophecies aren’t about the messiah and are taken out of context and applied incorrectly by Christians to make it seem like the bible prophecies about the promised messiah was about Jesus) 11. “FULLY GOD AND FULLY HUMAN AT THE SAME TIME “ (this is a Christian invention based on trying to compete with the pagan or other cultural ideologies) 12. A Divine or supreme being 13. Born from a “virgin birth” (this is a pagan ideology) 14. Part of a trinity (this is a pagan ideology) 15. Jesus Christ who failed the first time around 16. Be the “word” (Tanakh) of HaShem 17. Called Lamb of God (Hashem). Male sheep are called rams and the Jews sacrificed the lamb to mock the Egyptian Ram headed Sun Deity Amun-Ra 18. A priest or part of the Levitical priesthood 19. Sin itself at one point in time 20. A descendant of Jaconiah What will HaMashiach do 1. Re-Establish Saturday (the 7th day) as the sabbath day 2. He will judge among the nations 3. He will rebuke many peoples 4. End the knowledge of making war. 5. End the rumors of wars 6. End all wars 7. End the techniques of weaponry 8. Rebuild the Third Temple in Jerusalem 9. Establish a One World Government 10. Fulfill the true messianic prophecies (they are very few but definitely not 365) 11. Embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah 12. Establish One World religion. 13. Unite the Jewish families along with Elijah the prophet of HaShem 14. He will lead the Jewish people to be Torah observant 15. Spread universal knowledge of HaShem, which will unite humanity as one. 16. Provide for himself a bull sin‐offering for his sins! 17. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel 18. Bring about world peace 19. End all famine. 20. End all hatred. 21. End all suffering. 22. End all oppression. 23. End all diseases including viruses. 24. Bow down to HaShem and not himself 25. Destroy the very unrepentant enemies of Jerusalem 26. Be victorious over all his enemies. 27. Re-establish the Kingdom of David 28. Bring about utopia for the whole world 29. Rule Israel during the age of perfection. What will HaMashiach not do 1. Establish Sunday as the Sabbath day 2. Complete his mission in a second coming (no such prophecy exist in all of Tanakh) 3. Say that he is HaShem 4. Make himself be part of a trinity 5. Claim to be the word (logos) of Hashem 6. Teach Christianity & it’s false doctrine 7. Make himself equal to HaShem 8. Make anyone worship him as HaShem 9. Fail his mission the first time around 10. Sacrifice himself to atone for all sins 11. Abolish the laws of Hashem 12. Add to th e laws of Hashem 13. Subtract from the laws of Hashem 14. Be persecuted by his enemies 15. Claim a name outside his Jewish culture 16. Separate or divide families 17. Judge not by sight 18. Decide by hearing by his ears 19. Break the Shabbat Day 20. Explain away the Shabbath 21. Create a new law 22. Include himself in a new law Become sin to rid of sin or even forgive sins AFTER HAMASCHIACH COMES 1. All weapons will be destroyed 2. Nation will not lift up sword against other nations 3. Nations will not learn war any more. 4. There will be no more famine 5. Death will eventually cease 6. Eventually the dead will be resurrected 7. The nations of the earth will help the Jews materially 8. The Jews will be sought out for spiritual guidance 9. The Nile will run dry 10. Monthly, the trees of Israel will yield their fruit 11. Each tribe of Israel will receive and settle their inherited land 12. The nations of the earth will recognize that they have been in error, that the Jews had it right all along, and that the sins of the Gentile nations - their persecutions and the murders they committed - have been borne by the Jewish people Please study & don’t comment until you have read everything. Debunking Messianic Prophecies 1-145 jewsforjudaism.ca/category/videos/debunking-messianic-prophecies/page/2/ Debunking Messianic Prophecies 146-365 jewsforjudaism.ca/category/videos/debunking-messianic-prophecies/ Why Jews Don't Believe In Jesus www.aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html?mobile=yes Reasons Why Jesus Is Not The Messiah www.srimatham.com/uploads/5/5/4/9/5549439/why_jesus_is_not_the_messiah.pdf Jesus was not the messiah whatjewsbelieve.org/index.php/jesus-was-not-the-messiah/ Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return blacknonbelievers.com/jesus-failed-prophecy-about-his-return/ 365 Messianic Prophecies Claimed for Jesus, and an Analysis of Each and how it has been debunked nojesus4jews.weebly.com/365-prophecy-index.html The Jewish Concept of Messiah and the Jewish Response to Christian Claims jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/the-jewish-concept-of-messiah-and-the-jewish-response-to-christian-claims/ Jesus is a False Messiah www.evilbible.com/do-not-ignore-the-old-testament/jesus-is-a-false-messiah/ Jesus “the Christ” never existed www.jesusneverexisted.com The 12 Disciples never existed www.jesusneverexisted.com/apostles.html Paul never existed www.jesusneverexisted.com/paul.htm Paul acknowledges being a child of Zeus trumpet-call.org/2018/07/27/paul-acknowledges-being-a-child-of-zeus/#:~:text=Paul%2C%20by%20quoting%20he%20too%20was%20an%20offspring,child%20of%20Zeus%2C%20worshiping%20Zeus%20not%20in%20idols. 20 Facts That Prove Paul was a False Apostle www.judaismvschristianity.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/20-Facts-That-Prove-Paul-Was-a.pdf Paul exposed abeau11.wordpress.com/2017/07/31/1336/ The Cult of Paul jesuswords.net/resources/modern/cultofpaul/contrast15.shtml PAUL the LIAR thebibledecoded.com/2016/01/01/paul-the-liar/ Jesus & The Hidden Contradictions Of The Gospels www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124572693 “Jews for Jesus,” “Messianic Jews,” and “Hebrew Christians” are not Jews. whatjewsbelieve.org/jews-for-jesus-messianic-jews-and-hebrew-christians-are-not-jews/ People are born pure and without original sin whatjewsbelieve.org/index.php/people-are-born-pure-and-without-original-sin/ G-d does not become human & humans do not become G-d whatjewsbelieve.org/index.php/g-d-does-not-become-human-and-humans-do-not-become-g-d/ G-d is one (not part of a trinity) and indivisible whatjewsbelieve.org/index.php/g-d-is-one-and-indivisible/ G-d hates human sacrifices whatjewsbelieve.org/index.php/g-d-hates-human-sacrifices/ A blood sacrifice is not required for forgiveness of sins whatjewsbelieve.org/index.php/a-blood-sacrifice-is-not-required-for-forgiveness-of-sins/ One Person (not God or the messiah) cannot die for the sins of another whatjewsbelieve.org/index.php/one-person-cannot-die-for-the-sins-of-another/ Jews for Judaism Articles jewsforjudaism.org/articles Who is the Messiah? Explained kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXakXnefoJZkl68 How the name Yeshua became Jesus www.judaismvschristianity.com/how-the-name-yeshua-became-jesus/ Tithe isn’t money www.fcpublishing.com/the-bible-debunks-tithing-money-and-declares-tithing-food/ The priesthood of Aaron was robbing god bookbuzzr.com/read/22334/Kleptomaniac-Whos-Really-Robbing-God-Anyway/450/666#widget|secure.bookbuzzr.com/ Link: 365 prophecies debunked (Jesus failed) nojesus4jews.weebly.com/365-prophecy-index.html Video: The Real Mesiah (it’s not Jesus) kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXakXnefoJZkl68

[@wickhunter7733]

@Ezekiel365Days At what age did you lose your mind?

[@whatwecalllife7034]

​@@wickhunter7733No, no, they're correct. I'm atheist and even I know they are correct. If you bothered to actually read the messianic prophecies, like in Ezekiel, Jeremiah, and 1st and 2nd Isaiah, you'd see that everything they said is a correct representation of what the scriptures describe. Did you know that there were actually several people that Jews actually believed was the Messiah ? People like Cyrus, who rebuilt the Temple, and Simon bar Kokvah, who successfully led a revolt against Roman occupation, and even had coins made after him? Jesus did not do a single thing that the messiah was prophecied to do.

[@wickhunter7733]

@@whatwecalllife7034 What are you replying to?

[@loungeranger]

Thank you for your contribution and perspective. It is too infrequent that we learn the Jewish perspective which is very interesting.

[@whatwecalllife7034]

@@wickhunter7733 Look at your question, then look at my response. This isn't a 30+ reply thread.

[@seancamp1649]

Awesome great job guys

[@mrsatire9475]

The blood line is supposed to be through the father of which Jesus supposedly does not have one so he's not from the line of David kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqbIq2SdjNmWmKc

[@tyronecox5976]

Exactly, Saints HOLY Roman Empire.

[@walkwithelohim4936]

Ive never heard these prophesies as claims to those evenrts, but it is clear enough that those events happened and it is mind blowing that reactions of the persons in the / concerning each events match to realistic human reactions.

[@dannyboyakadandaman504furl9]

There's no actual evidence that there was a prophecy that the Messiah would die or even less be divine.

[@thepeach4638]

You got absolutely cooked by jay dyer, no answers to justify your world view, just pure nonsense 😂 cmon man you got eviscerated. Sure you have some people fooled on here but if they see exactly how much you dont know what youre talking about, they will all unsubscribe

[@EdwardM-t8p]

Jesus: "Who do you say I am?" Peter: "You are the Messiah!" Mary (to Peter): "He's NOT the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"

[@annepoitrineau5650]

In Canada, they drink vinegar mixed with raspberries as a refreshing drink, so the fact Jesus was given vinegar never impressed me.

[@dutchman6533]

Never heard of this drink before in Canada! 🇨🇦

[@annepoitrineau5650]

@@dutchman6533 There is a series of books called "Jalna" by Mazo de la Roche. In these books, which all take place in Canada, raspberry vinegar is always mentioned. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazo_de_la_Roche We followed her recipe and made it. It is really nice to drink with water. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYGmd5pubrV9sM0

[@deborahjensen3512]

BUT... you are using the BIBLE! Prove that Jesus actually even prophesied anything. You can't. Very disturbing

[@DjDeadpig]

The prophecies from the Old Testament that Jesus foretold.

[@FAITHandLOGIC]

​@@DjDeadpigNone of those prophecies are about Jesus. The writers of the New Testament plagiarized the Old Testament stories and just replaced Israel, Moses, Michael, Joshua, Joseph, etc. with Jesus.

[@JesusLied_ReadTheBible]

You could say that same thing about anything else in history too, I have a feeling your argument relies on special pleading. The bible is a collection of historic documents some being letters to groups. Thats how we know historical things that have been said by people in history besides Jesus it’s usually by peoples writings and letters. The bible is the best evidence Jesus is a false messiah because not only the gospels show Jesus as getting his promises and prophecies wrong but Paul and Peters letters do as well.

[@Isaac5123]

​@@DjDeadpig and you understand Hebrew ???

[@kennethyakovac665]

Mary was described by the word almah. That was not inaccurate. Just because some people try to expand or narrow the meaning of the word, this somehow becomes a major find for mythicists grasping for any straw they can find.

[@thearaucariafarmer556]

Mythvision boutta get into the SCHOLARLY and ARCHEOLOGICAL evidence, lets GO

[@michaelmcgee8543]

The idea that Jesus existed goes against my standards the fact is religion itself goes against my standards too. All religion, too

[@2777dave]

1. So called prophesies that do not have anything to do with the Messiah. 2. So called prophesies that are lifted out of context. 3. So called prophesies that later writers used to fabricate a narrative. Etc.

[@johannjohann6523]

If you don't think Jesus was real, read "Acta Pilate" the letter written from Pontius Pilate to Caeser in Rome. Found and authenticated by archaeologists.

[@BFpro156]

amazing work. Thank you

[@AleksandarGeratovic-n7t]

Vau ! Pozdrav iz Srbije (Serbia 🇷🇸) .

[@ifeanyionyiaodike2271]

You believe what you want. God bless you.

[@iwilldi]

How many prophecies did you fullfill today?