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@wezacker6482 Жыл бұрын
DOS:2 wasn't for me, but the love for it out there is real. For gamers who like it, they REALLY REALLY REALLY like it.
@shaunsmith4747 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a massive fan of it. Attempted to play through it a few times. Couldnt get into, I thought the intro islands was a bit boring.
@snowballandpals Жыл бұрын
Playing through it now and I love it but it's so damn long, it's definitely a grind at times
@Gabonic64 Жыл бұрын
There is too much text, and the menu is confusing and ugly, and there is too much choices for stats... I dont think its a good game at all with these things. I hated Wasteland 2 for the same reasons, almost its a Little better than DOS o DOS2 but they fixed everything in Wasteland 3, the game is amazing
@regiluthfi Жыл бұрын
@@Gabonic64 too nuch text? lol, try to play poe 1 or disco elysium.
@YiddishDancingClown6 ай бұрын
@@Gabonic64it's a CRPG, that's the whole point. Those aren't real criticisms.
@supernieva2419 Жыл бұрын
i just got into crpg with baldurs gate 3 im now playing dos2 and might try pathfinder wotr.
@julienrouche-lestonnat9975 ай бұрын
Go ahead they are all solid choices !
@jonnylesh87997 күн бұрын
Thats like my path of crpg
@dennisdavidov782 Жыл бұрын
A good list, I agrre with most picks here though there are some notable games missing here imho like: Kotor 1+2, Dragon Age: Origins, The Banner Saga: Triilogy, Shadowrun: Dragonfall, Freedom Force, Icewind Dale 1+2, Temple of Elemental Evil, Divine Divinity Ruined King, Tower of Time and Torment: Tides of Numenera.
@Andres50455 ай бұрын
Nice adittion, and now Rogue trader too
@ryandavid1277 Жыл бұрын
Will use this list to guide my Steam Deck decisions.
@SouthernSouthAsian Жыл бұрын
Agree with DOS2 still being number one. Near perfect game!
@erichwigotsky5743 Жыл бұрын
yea
@SekiberiusWelkesh Жыл бұрын
I heavily disagree, the armor system is one of the most bullshit and poorly designed systems ever, it heavily punishes having a varied party and iron fists you into going all in on either physical or magical damage. The loot system also sucked as basically every new zone on each map required a new tier of gear but the game never rewarded you with enough new gear to outfit you party, which would always leave you severely under geared which if you're unlucky enough could make certain encounters nearly impossible. All these things combined with the challenge of the game leads to what is a very frustrating combat experience that drags on as you spend hours trying to win a fight with your massively loosing hand.
@rose.i Жыл бұрын
@@SekiberiusWelkesh lol you're so butthurt first of all yeah the amor system isnt great but it doesn't discourage build variety at all you just need to make sure you somehow have at least 2 people in your party who can hit each one of the armor types or make a whole party with people who hit one type but those are the only guidelines and if you cant get creative within that framework then you're not thinking very hard ive done 3 playthroughs on tactician and in all of them ive had fun intersting and varied parties onto your second point again your complaint about the loot system being annoying is valid but its not nearly as bad as you make it out to be if you cant keep your party geared then youre either not exploring enough or not managing your money well enough to buy a few good items in town here and there ive never in 3 playthroughs on tactician hit a fight that i felt i couldnt finish because i needed better gear in fact ive often found its the opposite if i think things through i can usually come up with a plan thatll allow me to beat a fight i probably shouldnt have been able too with my current level and gear the combat system is very open ended GET CREATIVE
@lvasiescu Жыл бұрын
@@SekiberiusWelkesh yeah, and it's totally random. Like armor that requires strength and gives ... scoundrel? I mean, wtf? At that well in Act 1 I reloaded so many times to get a +1 thievery belt :D
@YiddishDancingClown6 ай бұрын
It's fun with friends but single player is lacking. The story and characters has piss poor writing.
@prometheus5405 Жыл бұрын
I love Disco Elysium.
@georgehall3305 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy cranking up Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel and Gears Tactics
@lvasiescu Жыл бұрын
I hate an love BOS at the same time. It's not a real crpg and story sucks. But the party/combat system is still one of the best.
@blakearius Жыл бұрын
The reason Pillars of Eternity 1 and DOS 2 are simply better than deadfire and DOS 1 is they had Chris Avellone writing. Instead of just more more generic adventure crap. All my favorites including fallout 2 have him in common. Also I'm pretty sure BG3 probably deserves the top spot now the full release is out.
@lvasiescu Жыл бұрын
BG3 does deserve top spot. (well, maybe not ahead Fallout 2 but that might be just nostalgia talking ... )
@comnenus97455 ай бұрын
PIllars of Eternity 2 is better than the original. Try it again!
@blakearius5 ай бұрын
@@comnenus9745 The UI was better, otherwise no it simply wasn't. I love pirates but deadfire was just a fantasy RPG with a shallow pirate themed paint of coat.
@comnenus97455 ай бұрын
@@blakearius Yeah, pirates don't have anything to do with it. POE 2 is better than the first game for the very reasons that make New Vegas so good. I am not saying that POE 2 is as good as New Vegas, but I am saying that the interaction and role playing opportunities that you have with the factions of the deadfire combined with how the character classes help to tell the story of the world of POE 2 make it a great game for the same reasons that New Vegas is a great game. The first Pillars game treats factions and character development in a more conventional fashion, predictable even, whereas the second Pillars has many instances in which the game shows and doesn't tell and integrates the player into the story through the interaction of the factions and the way that the game provides character building.
@blakearius5 ай бұрын
@@comnenus9745 I'm just gonna say Chris Avellone was a lead writer on New Vegas. I'm not argue about the gameplay but the writing is always better when he's around and to me that is the main feature of these games.
@ulquiorraschiffer1956 Жыл бұрын
Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous is insane how deep combat is and how great narrative is. Best CPRG along with DoS2
@lordcatpotato Жыл бұрын
yes sir
@regiluthfi Жыл бұрын
is it better than kingmaker? some people say kingmaker is better but i hate time limit concept. i was about to buy WOTR but again someone said it's a bit tedious because you have to fight same enemies multiple times.
@ulquiorraschiffer1956 Жыл бұрын
@@regiluthfi it's better overall in every way. Though you don't feel like a DnD adventurer like in Kingmaker. If you want a classic DnD feel, then Kingmaker.
@sikssilver96983 ай бұрын
Now you can add to the list: Warhammer 40k Rogue trader :)
@madhurjyagoswami Жыл бұрын
Nwn and it's modding community makes for a very good rpg experience
@arthurcontarini51 Жыл бұрын
Solasta is a good game. It just missed a good history and dialogues but the combat is really fun
@Urizen6111 ай бұрын
I highly recommend you download Ultima 8: The Black Gate and Serpent Isle. As 90s games, the graphics are obviously limited, but they were revolutionary at the time.
@songsayswhat7 ай бұрын
You mean Ultima 7. Ultima 8 was Pagan. *shudder*
@Urizen617 ай бұрын
@@songsayswhat Oh yeah. shudder
@tranquan2894 ай бұрын
Nice video!
@lusalma5404 Жыл бұрын
Something very classic to try is Eye of the Beholder 1 & 2; keep in mind the graphics are early 90s but historic CRPG for D&D. Another would be Might and Magic III.
@marks6928 Жыл бұрын
Those games suck.
@GodOfPlague4 ай бұрын
If you like Eye of the Beholder Legend of GrimRock 1 and 2 are great
@boneworksmortal8709 Жыл бұрын
Tides of Numenera is literally the best crpg, its set 1 000 000 000 years into the future, its so weird, so confusing, so good
@chanwooksook4 ай бұрын
I’m in the middle of planescape torment now. Just discovered that there’s Numenera. Looks sick
@YamatoForever Жыл бұрын
Divinity 2 is the ultimate. The music is fantastic. I might have to replay it soon.
@mmmnn1324 Жыл бұрын
I like your videos. You get to the point quickly and present cool games
@versuch8239 Жыл бұрын
Would definitely recommend Shadowrun: Dragonfall instead of Hongkong.
@dls3939 Жыл бұрын
Awesome list, just about to finish the first Pillars game. I wonder how long it'll take me to play the rest of the titles I haven't played yet. Then there is that itch to replay, which I already have big time for BG 2 and Planescape Torment. Sooo many good games and not enough hours in a day. Oh Death Trash seems pretty damn cool so far from the indie side of things, Atom RPG too, haven't finished it yet but was enjoying the amount I did get through..
@simondaniel4028 Жыл бұрын
I like PoE 1 but I adore PoE 2. It takes the 'faction' ideas from New Vegas and throws it into a high-seas, isometric, true cRPG system and hly fuk it *rocks*.
@garystringer25829 ай бұрын
I know that if not for BG3 - many would not go on to play DOS2. Baldur's Gate 3 has singlehandely revolutionised the genre and brought a whole new fanbase with it. So its at least on the CRPG Mount Rushmore, whether some people like it or not.
@jackbpace Жыл бұрын
I actually found the kingdom management features of the Pathfinder games more tedious than rewarding, and even though I purchased both I did not finish either one.
@niebau4690 Жыл бұрын
Great games on the list. Due to the high praise of DOS2 I've retried the game several times, but never made it past chapter 1 due to lack of motivation. The humor, the item system, the combat mechanics, and the constant poison, fire, ice surface thingy just wasn't for me. In terms of humor I'd recommend dungeons of naheulbeuk, by the way. I'm a huge fan of Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2, and I'm still enjoying every single moment of playing my new alltime-favorite game Solasta Crown of the Magister (500+ hours).
@SuperPagt Жыл бұрын
the first chapters of DOS 1 and 2 are just a pain, a maze of pain and boredom where you have no clue what to do next
@majorgear1021 Жыл бұрын
No game is for everyone. It’s a hard pill to swallow when someone doesn’t like a game that you think is perfect, but such is life. I’ve only tried it once and was completely lost as to what I was supposed to do. I’ll try it again after I’ve read or watched some guides.
@dougcarey223311 ай бұрын
Hmmm. Nice list, but i think PsT should be in the top 3.
@kingofbel6499 Жыл бұрын
Pretty good list. Only thing I would change is placing Tyranny higher, Wasteland 3 much lower, and Arcanum waaaaaaaaaaay higher because that game is truly one of a kind and deserves respect. Also I dont really consider Disco Elysium to be a CRPG. That game is more like a point & click adventure.
@simondaniel4028 Жыл бұрын
I've a tattoo of PS:T and still have the box and strategy guide for Arcanum. But the game isn't so easy to play, as time has not been kind to it. No other cRPG needs an EE much like Arcanum does. WL3 blew me away and I thought 2 was terrific. I need to get around to UnderRail, and ATOM... I bounced right off. God do I love Arcanum dearly...
@kingofbel6499 Жыл бұрын
@@simondaniel4028 Yea, sadly Arcanum aged like milk, but I think anyone who likes CRPGs NEED to at least give it a try. Underrail is another pretty unique crpg too, very worth it for Fallout fans.
@majorgear1021 Жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for Disco Elysium stans to downvote this because they feel personally attacked.
@alumshaman Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Good choise.
@DavidJoyTap Жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@dmitriymakarov2450 Жыл бұрын
this is pretty strange way to make money, but it works Thank you Michael for showing it
@terroristeoverdoz Жыл бұрын
DOS 2, its fun to see how my partner collect all garbage
@maciejkarwacinski796610 ай бұрын
POE2 is not available on the Switch.
@marks6928 Жыл бұрын
I think KOTOR and Dragon Age: Origins deserve to be here
@mihazbukvic1453 Жыл бұрын
Useful list to check out some games But list with 25 games and no dragon age origins is a blasphemy. And icewind dale at least deserves mentioning. Overall i enjoyed watching this video
@JoelRPG Жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@majorgear1021 Жыл бұрын
How would you feel if he put Dragon Age in an “honorable mentions” section.
@Tankallex Жыл бұрын
I’m absolutely loving Solasta:Crown of the Magister…. Most enjoyable game I’ve played in a long time, if not, in my lifetime.
@leeguyton1010 Жыл бұрын
Great list 👍 I sunk 135 hours into DOS2. Loved every second 🤩
@JoelRPG Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@julienrouche-lestonnat9975 ай бұрын
Could add Encased and Kotor 1+2
@starkyzero7169 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised to see the game "Encased" wasn't featured here. Is it just not that good, or is it not mainstream enough?
@JoelRPG Жыл бұрын
I never give the game a proper try, so i can't say much about it. It's not bad tho
@MrPhoxy Жыл бұрын
I beat that game i think its a decent game but forgettable one..
@lordcatpotato Жыл бұрын
Bro u should try Spellforce 3, Spellforce 3 Soul harvest seems pretty decent for me, as I like Pathfinder series Divinity & Baldurs gate 3 , wasteland 3.. I don't really like solasta because the story/graphics is not that good for me , but decent combat playstyle THQ nordic storymaker is actually good but oh my god , the amount of the bug is insane.
@MistyKathrine9 ай бұрын
No Wizardry 8?!
@futuregenesis9726 күн бұрын
DOS2 is king.
@songsayswhat7 ай бұрын
Shadows over Loathing but not West of Loathing?
@mmzda Жыл бұрын
Yes
@emmathepony1992 Жыл бұрын
please tell me you included shadows over loathing as a parody entry
@BruCipHiF Жыл бұрын
it is there
@JoelRPG Жыл бұрын
:D
@Medicalscape Жыл бұрын
Kenshi, my favorite game of all time
@FLiXHi Жыл бұрын
what is CRPG stand for ?
@SuperPagt Жыл бұрын
computer rpg
@FLiXHi Жыл бұрын
@@SuperPagt oh, tx
@majorgear1021 Жыл бұрын
That confused me at first. It’s usually use to refer to early isometric computer rpg games . DRPG is Dungeon RPG which are games like Land of Lore where you have a first person view and spend most of the game in a dungeon.
@FLiXHi Жыл бұрын
In simple way, like dnd but in computer games, right? Never play one though,just see some streamer play dnd
@lvasiescu Жыл бұрын
For me it stands for Classic RPG I mean ... Fallout 3 and 4 are RPGs and are played on computers, lol. But I wouldn't consider them ... crpgs ...
@Midknyghte8 ай бұрын
Thrilled to see Arcanum in somebone else's list. But I Have yet to find anyone mentioning the Mass Effect Series.
@MrPhoxy Жыл бұрын
I play almost all of this list except the rome and viking probably because i dont like that setting in crpg.. I remember excited to play Wasteland 3 after release but the game a bit underwhelming imo, had better experience playing wasteland 2.
@eddiewitter1264 Жыл бұрын
Your reviews are not bad sometimes they're good... but today you're giving the top best see RPGs of all time and one of the reviews you're giving is Shadows over loathing.. well I'm sorry but this should have been towards 25 not 16.
@Draggor Жыл бұрын
Everything is in the Title.. 😍
@TheChaddisBack4 ай бұрын
Divinity OS2 was really good... but Pathfinder WOTR is THE best crpg of all time by FAR......
@max134943 ай бұрын
Its fucking mid at best
@Tuttifrutt8i Жыл бұрын
DOS2 is a deserved number 1. I had such a blast with my cousin. Every new playthrough, I find something new or different :) Solasta and Wasteland 3 is also a recommended, if you guys like turnbased crpgs :)
@ImperadorLucius Жыл бұрын
i'm almost going mad trying to find a RPG i played once, we play as a Plague Doctor in medieval times, trying to investigate and find a cure for various different desiases. You can choose between vairous classes of doctors, Religious type, Alchemy, historian. Also there is a plot of politics involved. Never could find it again, if someone knows what i'm talking about, pleaaaase send me the name. It's not old, i guess is a 2020ish thing
@majimayo Жыл бұрын
could it be Pathologic maybe?
@jessehedman3178 Жыл бұрын
@@majimayoid guess the same, though I don't remember it having classes.
@snowballandpals Жыл бұрын
Darkest Dungeon?
@frankhalgas3798 Жыл бұрын
Kingdom Come: Deliverance? Maybe if you told us what system. Or maybe tell us the full story of how you encountered this game or why you want it? If it is too long, then make a video and point us to the video. After all, CRPG players love a good story and helping others. On a random note, you could try an imperfect CRPG from 1992 called Darklands. If you are not good at tinkering with your PC, then you could get it from GoG. Happy hunting.
@CollectiveDivineConsciousness Жыл бұрын
Did you trying it yet? If not I would start helping you to find it but let me know please
@kayecellpeachtobias9843 Жыл бұрын
Hi can i ask where can i send an inquiry
@JoelRPG Жыл бұрын
you can send an email to juliandry78@gmail.com
@erichwigotsky5743 Жыл бұрын
divinity original sin 2 DE THIS GAMES HAVE big combat and map this the most big game
@uroskojic8512 Жыл бұрын
Maaan after Dos 2 every crpg doesnt do it for me...even bg3 doesnt compare for me.
@requiescatinpace2462 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@senrign Жыл бұрын
Seriously tho Dos 3 when ?
@majorgear1021 Жыл бұрын
I think BG3 took its place :(
@lvasiescu Жыл бұрын
DOS 3 with some of the improvements from BG3 could be an even better game ...
@senrign Жыл бұрын
Lol the first act felt like DoS3 to me actually so I'm kinda happy. Couldn't play the rest cuz my pc had big fps drops on second act
@dinand285 ай бұрын
in what way dos2 is better than bg3 💀
@MirV74 ай бұрын
Everything
@kirushapojar3 ай бұрын
I think the author made the list while bg3 was not released yet
@Revlis_ProtoАй бұрын
Multiplayer, replability, modability, stability, not wotc
@NhanLy-j4qАй бұрын
@@Revlis_Proto Story
@Revlis_ProtoАй бұрын
@@NhanLy-j4q oh yeah, the story actually has a proper ending you're right I forgot
@max134943 ай бұрын
Pathfinder game are mid as fuck
@vintagemonte Жыл бұрын
can’t wait for asmongold to react lol
@jmmywyf4lyf Жыл бұрын
Dos2 was too bloated. Inokved DOS, but i couldnt finish 2.. i hated the first act, and how many quests you stumble into, halfway completing in the process
@jmmywyf4lyf Жыл бұрын
Solasta sucks... sorry, but its linear, the 5e rules are boring, and you have to buy multiple dlcs to get an incomplete game.
@tenslein8977 Жыл бұрын
I hate Disco Elysium.
@ilirtanku9722 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@gawilson100 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't get into it
@Andrew52_52 Жыл бұрын
I'm still trying
@TheKestevon Жыл бұрын
More like point and click adventure game than rpg
@Maesterful Жыл бұрын
It's not bad but to me felt kind of bloated, pretentious and limited (you never leave the island area)