Top 5 Best Automatic Espresso Machines of 2020

[@MrAsimomytis]

I would never exchange my Bezzera and my mignon for a super-automatic......but you almost got me there! You are fantastic!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Dang, almost got ya! Haha, thanks for the compliment. Perhaps this video is little more up your alley, Top 5 Best Semi-Automatic Espresso Machines of 2020: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJiToZxrnJWAmLs AJ

[@vladshults5395]

How come no Nivona, Melitta or Miele machines on the list? Also, not just from this list, but in general, what is the most quietest superautomatic coffee machine ?? I currently have the Gaggia Anima Prestige and that thing is sooo loud: the way it turns on, they way it grinds or when it makes latte. Looking to upgrade, but I want pre-infusion option and the most quietest machine so I don't wake up my family in the morning. Please HELP. Thank you

[@billmazurek3138]

Thanks for the detailed video ... the Gaggia family of automatic expresso makers are shot on ... cheers

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Bill, you're welcome and thanks for the comment! AJ

[@brianmcg321]

Espresso

[@johnlane6459]

Hi, I’m a Jura engineer in the U.K. and in my opinion the Ena8 is the best domestic Jura machine ever made.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey John, I had the ENA 8 at my house for a few months while I was working from home in the spring. For a smaller space and fewer people, it was perfect. Add on top the sleek design, and I may have to agree with you! Here's a quick in-home review of it in my kitchen: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHiYZauLfN2DfNE AJ

[@paul756uk2]

I'm also in the UK and bought an S8 just before Christmas last year. Absolutely love it but a but disappointed at the number of water filters it goes through

[@JeffJacquesmd]

Thanks for this excellent overview. I ordered the Cadorna Barista Plus and I’m looking forward to getting it up and running tomorrow when it arrives.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Jeff, great to hear! Enjoy the machine ☕️ AJ

[@JeffJacquesmd]

@@Wholelattelovepage tracking UPS as we speak. Going through caffeine withdrawal as I wait 😉

[@kshitiz41]

I have to travel from one city to another on every 6 months... Could you suggest me beans to espresso machine I could carry on plane

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi KR, I suggest the Gaggia Brera: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-brera-espresso-machine-in-silver It's a compact, lower cost machine which stands up to shipping abuse better than most. Marc

[@kshitiz41]

@@Wholelattelovepage thank u

[@anthonysaturno8265]

I have the Gaggia Academia and I LOVE it!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Awesome! We often group the Babila and Accademia in the same category, and they're both amazing, incredibly durable, machines. AJ

[@davidpomponio2]

I have the same machine. Purchased in January. GREAT COFFEE EVERYTIME. CONSISTANT COFFEE TYPE OF COFFEE

[@marinusdijkstra2827]

I love the indepth reviews you guy do, contemplating the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige for his auto, easy use options and it actually convert my office (shoosh away pandamic) to a office like vibe, with great coffee machine which seems to do it all! Too good to be true? All i fear is the ceramic plating and their potential to crack, how likely would that be. Should i be anixously checking all beans i insert to avoid any "rocks" getting their way into the grinder? Ready to make the plunge into home coffee heaven

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi MD, Thanks for the kind comment and question. The Cadorna Prestige offers a lot compared to competing machines. Ceramic burrs are subject to chipping and damage due to foreign objects like rocks in beans. But, IMO that's very unlikely! I've been using super-auto machines for more than decade. Probably ground 100's of Kg's of beans through them and have yet to run into a rock. Not saying it can't happen but likelyhood is incredibly low. Marc

[@marinusdijkstra2827]

@@Wholelattelovepage Hi Mark, great to hear from you and thank you for sharing your view! Cant wait for it to arrive snd your reviews certainly are very valuable and appreciated! Thank you and greetings from Rainy Amsterdam, Marinus

[@mnminnmn]

can you incorporate some blind taste tests in comparisons? that would be a big help!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Not a bad idea, though there are SO many variables involved, it would be hard to pull any real conclusions from the shots. You could try to control as much as possible (beans, grind size, temperature, yield), but one machine may perform "better" under one set of circumstances, then another machine would win if you changed one variable. Combine that with the subjectivity of taste and it's really hard to gather useful data. Of course taste is the most important thing, but often the real value of these videos is to analyze the features, consistency, reliability, and ability to tweak to your own personal taste preferences. AJ

[@Wrknmom2]

Looking at the maintenance and accessories for the Jura machines - water filter every two months, milk tube every three, the milk cup and smartphone capability being add ons - seems like would be spendy over time. How does the gaggia compare for these types of Maintenance accessories?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Wrknmom@, Thanks for the question. Here's a comparison. A lot depends on whether you use a water filter or not. Costs are about the same (but varies depending on your source water hardness) if you decide to not use the filter on the Jura and use the filter on the Gaggia to extend time between descaling. Jura Milk Jug Glass: $47.50. One can forgo the Milk Jug Glass and just drop the pickup tube in any milk container. Water Filter: 23.75 Cleaning Tablets 6 pack: $20 = $3.33/ea Descaling Tablets 9 pack: $19 = $2.11/ea Notes: Use the water filter and no descaling is required. Or do not use water filter and you will need to descale. Cleaning tablets are required ~180 brew cycles as the Jura brew unit is not removable. If your source water quality is decent you can save a lot by not using the Jura filter and descaling when alerted at cost of $2.11. With moderately soft water Descaling and cleaning happen at about the same frequency of every 180 brew cycles So figure ~$5.40 in maintenance every 180 brew cycles. Gaggia Milk Carafe: included with Babila, not needed with Cadorna Barista Plus Water Filter: $12.24 Descaler: $8.50 Cleaning Tablets: 10 pack $12.99 = 1.29/ea Notes: Descaling is required regardless of filter use - but will be less frequent if filter is used. Cleaning tablets are not as critical as Gaggia brew unit is removable. Still recommend to use cleaning tablet every 60 days at minimum. With soft source water and filter use descaling will be required at about 750 brew cycles. Hope that helps!

[@Wrknmom2]

@@Wholelattelovepage thank you so much for such a detailed answer. As I was watching videos I learned that the option for ice coffee was a must for my husband so that narrowed the field tremendously!

[@Ggs2179]

Hi I have Miele super automatic and I’ve try so many beans but not satisfy Any recommendations ? Thank you

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Arian, Here are a couple of my favorites in different categories, depending on your taste preferences. Specialty/single origin: Fuego Ethiopia www.wholelattelove.com/products/fuego-coffee-roasters-ethiopia All-around: Carraro Tazza D'oro www.wholelattelove.com/products/carraro-tazza-doro Dark roast: Barrie House Arrosto Scuro www.wholelattelove.com/products/barrie-house-arrosto-scuro-fair-trade-organic-coffee AJ

[@Ggs2179]

Thanks for your recommendation but few days ago I ordered Maromas Orphea whole beans from your website I hope I picked the right one pls let me know Thank you

[@Ggs2179]

Can I use any brand decalcification liquid/tablet for my Miele Superautomatic Espresso machine or it has to be Miele brand?

[@michaelnewcomb8022]

Between the Jura Ena 8 and Babila, which one gets the milk the hottest? Some people have complained the Babila does not get the milk very hot.

[@jenniferc6890]

We just ordered the Jura Giga 6 and are hoping we made the right choice. We currently have the Saeco Pico Baristo, which I like but wanted a double bean hopper. (Ya know, for that strong cup of decaf in the evening ;)

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey JC, The Jura GIGA 6 is the top of the line in automatic bean to cup machines and a huge step up in capabilities compared to your current machine. I'm guessing you'll love the GIGA 6 a whole latte! Marc

[@jenniferc6890]

So I got my new machine and it's been running great. Suddenly today the empty grounds signal wont turn off. I cleaned the sensors and ofcourse emptied the grounds and water. Also I reached up to where the coffee pellets come out and cleaned all the excess grounds out, but nothing helps. Isthere any suggestions you might have?

[@mollyoverholt1544]

I’d like to move to a super-automatic machine from a Keurig. The Gaggia Anima Prestige and the Jura D6 seem comparable. If they are, why does the Gaggia win that category over the Jura? Also a friend of mine just got the Breville Touch and it looks very nice. You don’t seem to feature the Breville often or in any top 5. Is there a reason? Thank you for any insight.... I’m totally new to this!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Molly, My apologies for missing your comment and not answering sooner. First, congrats on considering moving away from a Keurig! Bean to cup makes far better coffee (and lots of other drinks), cost is far less per cup and you'll be doing the environment a favor. Anima Prestige wins for lower price ~$100 and more convenient with the detachable carafe and one touch milk drinks. D6 uses a pickup tube for and requires user intervention to star milk prep. Breville not included here as their machines are technically semi-automatic with portafilters, separate grinders - so a lot more user involvement and some skill coffee knowledge required for their operation. Marc

[@ThatsPety]

The Terra Cafe has changed the world. You just can't ignore it anymore

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Pety, thanks for the comment! AJ

[@SilverRose253]

What is terra cafe

[@romelulukaku6150]

This man is gonna have me buy them all 😂👍

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Haha, I mean... 😇 AJ

[@rdhmomma]

Excellent and informative video. We are ready to take the plunge but I could use some advice. We were trying to keep it under $1,000 but if it goes over I could live with it. There are three of us and super automatic is a must. My son is all about the variety of drinks ,my wife and I enjoy the espresso and cappuccino. It wouldn’t hurt to be able to make regular coffee too. Thank you for any input you may have.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi J, Thanks for the kind comment on the video! Based on the info you provided I think one of the Gaggia Cadorna machines is exactly what you are looking for. There are 3 Cadorna models. The Barista Plus, the Milk and the Prestige. The Barista Plus is at your desired budget. The difference between the models is how they work with milk. The Barista Plus uses manual frothing. The Milk uses a tube attached milk reservoir and the Prestige has an attachable carafe. Here's a video comparing all 3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/moe0hZyhrZqMpsU As you'll see in the video the Barista Plus uses a manual steam wand. It takes a little practice/skill to use but once you get it down you can froth to latte art quality with the manual wand. The Milk and Prestige models take no skill and add a lot of convenience. Both are considered "one-touch" machines which means they make milk drinks start to finish without user intervention at the touch of a button. The Cadornas are perfect for multiple users as each can save their own custom drinks in separate user profiles. For regular coffee the Cadornas have to options. A long coffee which brews larger coffees putting all the brew water through the ground coffee or true Americanos which many coffee drinkers (myself included) prefer for larger cups. An Americano is simply a shot of espresso with pure hot water added. It has a purer flavor profile than a long coffee. Here's a link to a side by side spec comparison of the 3 Gaggia Cadorna models with current pricing: /pages/compare?products=NDU2ODM4Mjk5NjUzNCw0NTY4MzkxOTA5NDMwLDQ1NjgzOTgwMzcwNDY I hope that helps! Marc

[@rdhmomma]

@@Wholelattelovepage Thank You for the speedy reply and recommendation. I really don’t want to spend $1700/1800 at this time. I was looking at either of the Velasca prestige or the Anima prestige. I am sure the Cadorna is an excellent machine but I am not ready to spend that much on our first machine. Thanks again for the recommendation and reply

[@lorenzobaskerville9040]

I know that the Jura Ena 8 Massive Al is all metal at a premium price. Are the other Ena 8 units plastic on the side and metal on the front and top of the unit? Tommy

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Tommy, Thanks for the question. The other ENA 8s are plastic on sides and top of unit. Marc

[@yannickbr4383]

Great sales talk

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Yannik, thanks for the comment. AJ

[@wadegustovson5767]

Excellent vid!!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Thanks Wade!

[@brianbeins4641]

Do you know of or foresee any more affordable 2 hopper options? The GIGA6 looks great but is a whole latte price tag. (See what I did there?? ;) One other question, WAY BACK like 20 years ago when I bought my DeLonghi, I think your website had a comparison chart spreadsheet that lined up all of the options plus included things like temperature of shot, grinder noise level, extra water volume added to steam the milk, etc. Do you know of a source for some of this info? Thank you for the video.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Brian, unfortunately I don't. There's the GIGA 6 as you mentioned, and the GIGA X7 which costs (a whole latte) more. Realistically if two different hoppers is essential and you have the counter space, it would be cheaper to get two separate less-expensive machines. We do still have a compare feature on the site which can give you a side-by-side of up to 5 products, though it may not have some of the level of detail you mentioned. For example, here's a comparison of those two dual-hopper machines I mentioned above: wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=MjEzMjc2MTgwNDg1NCwxNTQ1OTU5MjExMDY3 AJ

[@WestUCoog]

Love the Babila. Basically the previous Saeco Xelsis.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi WUC, Thanks for sharing your love a whole latte!

[@michaelnewcomb8022]

I have heard the Babila can only handle lighter roast coffee's. Is that true?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Michael, Thanks for the question. The Babila can use medium and dark roast beans. What you do want to avoid are beans with excessive visible surface oils. a few random oils spots are okay but stay away from anything more. Excessive surfac oils generally indicate beens were over-roasted.

[@sjlewis7640]

Great video - can you list or help me find the espresso / coffee temperature as it is dispensed for each machine? I know the cup etc.. effect the temp. But a problem with many machines is the temp is just to low, so that adding a little half and half makes a lukewarm terrible shot/cup. Any help is appreciated.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Sam, Thanks for the comment and question. You are correct, variables like cup type, ambient temps, etc all have an affect on in cup temps. I've used most every super-auto and IMO the Cadorna Prestige has noticeably higher temps than most. At high temp setting it delivers ~186F measured in espresso stream from coffee spouts. Of course in cup temp will be lower. How much depends on those variables.

[@sjlewis7640]

@@Wholelattelovepage thank you very much. My Jura z7 has needed to many repairs over the years and now it needs another. But with 181 degree coffee it’s been hard to find a replacement. I’ll strongly consider this gaggia machine.

[@sjlewis7640]

@@Wholelattelovepage two other question. Does the Bablia dispense espresso at this same high temperature? Also does the candorna and bablia both have double boilers?

[@LK-pm9il]

What are your thoughts on the Phillips 3200?? I’ve seen lots of great reviews and want your opinion on it compared to these automatic machines (specifically the cheaper ones. As a military family we still move too much to buy something crazy expensive and risk it being broken in a move every few years). Thanks!!!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi L K, Thanks for the question. Unfortunately I cannot give advice regarding that machine as I've never used it. Marc

[@LK-pm9il]

@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you for responding! Have a wonderful day :)

[@vahinewahine916]

Hello and thanks for these videos! I'm a newbie who wants to make the leap from a drip coffeemaker to a superautomatic machine that can do espresso, americano, coffee with occasional foamed milk (we're not really into lattes and other milky drinks). The catch is that counterspace is at a premium and a small footprint is essential. I had been only considering Juras up until this point, since it's the only machine I had used in a relative's house, but your video put Gaggia on the map for me. Have there been any newer releases on the market in 2021 since this video was made, that i should also consider?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi vahinewahine, here's a link to the 2021 version of this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6TRlYCrl8xnmtU If you're sold on JURA, the ENA8 is probably the way to go if you're tight on counter space. Otherwise, take a took at the Gaggia Magenta (featured in that video and others on our channel). It's new in 2021, has one of the smallest footprints you'll find in in a superautomatic machine, and has espresso/coffee/americano options. There are two models that only vary in the milk system: the Magenta Prestige has a removable milk carafe that automatically froths for one-touch drinks, and the Magenta Plus for manual milk frothing. AJ

[@vahinewahine916]

@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for the reply! After watching your videos I was gravitating toward the ENA8 so I'm glad to see I was on the right track. I"ve gotten a lot of great info from your channel. Thanks for helping make this process a little less confusing! I'll check out the other options you suggested too!

[@bigwave_dave8468]

Good feature video. Can you comment on the brew groups and internal build quality used in the various machines? It looks like the Gaggia is using same the Phillips/Saeco classic that's in the old Titanium unit. IMO, coffe quality was poor/meh. Will you do a tear-down of any of these?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey BWD, Thanks for the comment and questions. While I open up nearly every semi-automatic machine I use I dont' go deep inside super-automatics. Brew groups inside super-autos are all fairly similar. They have had upgrades since the Titanium days but they do not have the same potential as espresso made from a high-end grinder and prosumer level espresso machine. These types of machines provide convenient consistent quality that's generally better than what you'll get in drinks from major chain cafes.

[@bigwave_dave8468]

@@Wholelattelovepage Yah, makes sense. After the Titanium broke, I got my Europiccola out of mothballs and have been using that ever since along with a newly purchased good quality grinder. It's more work/hassle than super or a semi-auto but great results.

[@richardwalsh6100]

Is there much difference between the brew groups on these.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

All three Gaggias use the same brew groups, and the JURAs use the same as each other. The main difference is that the Gaggia groups are removable for cleaning/maintenance while the JURAs aren't. JURAs are cleaned with a tablet and a cleaning cycle internal to the machine. AJ

[@richardwalsh6100]

@@Wholelattelovepage the juras must be a cleaner unit as my gaggia gets into a right state, but good to see how it all works etc. Have to do it once a week or it can get mouldy.

[@meenam300zx]

I tried Gaggia and Philips 3200 and for $300 less I went with Philips. It is just as good and perhaps more reliable. By the way, if you have to steam your milk manually, you should not call this a review of Automatic coffee makers.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi ZZ, Thanks for the comment and sharing your opinion. One of the bunch steams manually so... Really can't put the Cadorna Barista Plus in with semi-auto machines as it has no portafilter.

[@ryanrodriguez70]

Why isn’t the phyllips Lettgo in this comparison?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Ryan, we don't carry the Philips LatteGo and I don't have access to it for testing. AJ

[@mihandreviews-homegarden7380]

Thanks!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

You bet!

[@Lifesabeach-c4w]

What do you guys think about the Miele countertop systems? Is there any super automatic that does both espresso drinks and drip coffee very well?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi CL, I've not used the Miele so cannot render an opinion. For a machine that does both espresso and "drip" coffee I'd take a look at the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige. It doesn't do actual drip coffee, it does better! Nothing like a cup made from whole beans ground fresh for every one! The Cadorna does a long coffee which is drip like. But my favorite is the Americano. If unfamiliar do try one. It's a shot of espresso followed by hot water over the top. IMO much better than drip coffee and you can tune to your taste preference. The Cadorna nails a perfect combination of features, ease of use, Gaggia reliability and a price well below machines from other manufacturers machines with comparable features and capabilities. If interested here an in-depth review of the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYnTmINtZZp_eJY Hope that helps! Marc

[@bitmap1638]

@@Wholelattelovepage Your title for this Video is incorrect then.

[@nisreennawar1959]

Do you still have to dial in automatic espresso machines the same way with semi-automatic?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Nisreen, not really, automatic machines are much more forgiving when it comes to grind size. We generally recommend going to the finest setting on the machine for espresso, then go slightly coarser if the machine is slowly dripping out espresso or not dispensing it at all. AJ

[@andrewhindle4291]

Hi, thanks for these videos from the UK! I’m looking for our first bean to cup from a Nespresso, and typically make Americans with foam/splash of hot milk. I’m torn between the Gaggia Cordona and Jura ENA 8 models. Is there any key difference in maintenance or coffee grinding quality etc.? How would you advise? Thanks!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Andrew, You are welcome! The machines are very similar in coffee quality. The Cadorna has higher capacities than the ENA 8. So, if you do more than a couple a couple of drinks per day you may appreciate less water filling and used coffee bin emptying. The Cadorna has double the grind settings of the Jura so you can be more precise. Maintenance is similar for both machines although if you use the in-reservoir filter with the Jura as directed you will never need to descale the machine. Even with filter use the Cadorna will require descaling. Filter use extends the time between descaling. Other consideration is how you want to work with milk. ENA 8 uses a pick up tube while there are options ranging up to a detachable carafe for the Cadorna. All milk system require cleaning but the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige uses a detachable carafe and a quick rinse cycle which allows one to put it back in fridge ready for use next time. Hope that helkps! Marc

[@andrewhindle4291]

@@Wholelattelovepage thanks Marc! Really helpful actually. Certainly the Cadorna Plus is a decent saving over the ENA 8 as well. Would I be right to say the step up into the Jura E8 range (money) doesn’t pay any further dividends in coffee quality or maintenance etc.? Thanks.

[@Bravokaylyn]

Love the video I wish it just had the price with the machine

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Kaylyn, thanks for the comment. I didn't include the prices in the video because they periodically change based on current availability and promotions. There are links to all of the products in the video description which will show you the current price, and I'll list them here too! Gaggia Anima Prestige www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-anima-prestige-super-automatic-espresso-machine Jura ENA 8 Massive Aluminum www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-ena-8-espresso-machine-aluminum Gaggia Cadorna Barista Plus www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cadorna-plus Gaggia Babila www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-babila-one-touch-coffee-and-espresso-machine Jura GIGA 6 www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-giga-6 AJ

[@sallyhahmach]

Hi! What would be best for commercial use in a small bakery?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Cibto, Thanks for the question. Unfortunately the machines featured here are not intended for commercial use. Though not technically a commercial machine, something like this is rated for 30 drinks/day: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/commercial-espresso-machines/products/jura-w-e8-professional-automatic-coffee-machine

[@marcusbrown188]

I recommend Gaggia Brera best price to enter the full auto machines

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Marcus, Thanks for sharing. Yes, the Brera is about the best value in super-auto machines! Marc

[@alejandroalartiz9451]

Is the Jura Giga 6 better than the Breville Oracle Touch?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi AA, Thanks for the question. The Giga 6 is the top of the line in super-automatic machines - just the best there is! The Oracle Touch is a more hands on product. Lot's of user involvement to make a drink. The Giga 6 is about convenience. Push a button and you can make 2 milk based espresso beverages simultaneously. Plus mix beans from 2 bean hoppers in a single drink and a whole lot more. If someone offered me a choice between the BOT and Giga 6 I'd take the Giga 6.

[@meej6452]

I'm debating on which to buy, why did you guys selected the Gaggia Anima over the Philips 3200 Lattego?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

yes

[@meej6452]

@@Wholelattelovepage Huh?

[@Irraptured]

lol

[@kshitiz41]

Can we carry it on the plane

[@Wholelattelovepage]

I don't think any of these would work as carry-on luggage. They likely wouldn't fit in the overhead or under the seat. AJ

[@billyg8614]

Any updates to the Jura S8?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Billy, I'm not aware of any coming updates to the S8. AJ

[@XeitosoX]

What about the espresso quality and taste?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi XeitosoX, taste is very subjective and based on a lot of variables. There are certain beans that taste better to me out of the Jura ENA 8 vs. the Gaggia Cadorna and vice versa. All of these machines are capable of producing great espresso. The real value comes in the consistency and ability to tweak thinks to your own personal liking. AJ

[@razorhaven66]

Which super automatic espresso machine that you have used / tested would you say consistently makes the best taste/flavor quality of espresso and black coffee drinks? Maybe another way to ask is which semi automatic in your experience/opinion makes the best flavor/taste quality of espresso that is most similar to a dialed in semi-automatic espresso machine?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi rh66, Thanks for the question. First know that with the right skills, knowledge a good coffee and grinder a semi-auto has higher quality potential than super-autos. You're giving up a little in potential quality for the convenience of super-auto machines. For those focused on the best possible espresso from a super-auto I like the Gaggia Accademia or Babila. Both those machines have flow control on the coffee spouts allowing the user to adjust flow rate slower for espresso and higher for longer coffees. Both machines have more grind settings than vast majority of competing machines. And if you want a double shot the machine will grind 2x to make it rather than putting 2x the amount water through the same amount of coffee. I've used both the Accademia and Babila daily for months long periods. They brew espresso/coffee identically. My use consisted of either straight espresso or long coffee. The ability to control flow rate allowed me to switch between shorter espresso and long coffees without changing grind size. For the past few months I've been using the Gaggia Cadorna. I do straight espresso on the machine and if I want a larger black coffee I make an Americano. It's really the only machine in it's price range that does a true one-touch Americano by automatically adding pure hot water to the espresso after it is made. I prefer the flavor of the Americano to long coffee made on the machine which puts all the brew water through the puck. The UI of the Cadorna is superior to that of that Accademia and Babila IMO. Hope that helps! Marc

[@razorhaven66]

@@Wholelattelovepage Hello, thank you for your informative reply as it’s certainly appreciated. Yes, I agree and understand that semi-automatic machines that are dialed in well are going to consistently produce better flavor / taste quality espresso than a super automatic, but its a trade off I’m personally interested in making due to the speed, ease and convenience of the super automatics. I was wondering about how well the flow adjustment on the Gaggia Babila or Accademia would work to improve the flavor quality of the espresso, so sounds like it does make a noticeable improvement. I was also curious how you thought this function compared to the Pulse Extraction Process of the Jura machines for producing the better more consistent flavor quality of espresso. Sounds like you have probably found the flow adjustment function of the Gaggia Babila / Accademia to be a little better overall for the taste quality of espresso produced, so that is helpful to know. I suppose that hot water could be manually added to the espresso produced from the Babila or Accademia to make a better Americano - not as easily as the Cadorna but for me whichever machine made the overall best taste quality of espresso is the more important factor. Thank you again for your response and any additional input you have would be appreciated in helping me to finalize a purchase decision.

[@HomesteadHere]

How does the velasca compare to the anima prestige?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

The base model Velasca comes with an autofrothing steam wand while the Anima Prestige uses a milk carafe. The Velasca Prestige and Anima Prestige are more comparable. Drink quality will be nearly identical on both. Velasca Prestige will give you a slightly larger bean hopper, passively-heated cup warmer, and more grind settings. Anima prestige will give you a larger dreg drawer capacity and larger water reservoir. Dink options are pretty close, but the Velasca Prestige give you a baby cappuccino and Anima Prestige has latte macchiato. AJ

[@rasmusdyhrandersen1823]

What is the the best machine for long time use?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi RDA, Thanks for the question. All these machines are capable of well in excess of 10,000 brewing cycles with proper maintenance. So, best machine is one that you maintain! For more piece of mind you'd probably prefer a Gaggia machine all of which use removable brew units. Marc

[@fozya.h.a5062]

Were do we put sugar?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi pt, One would add sugar after drink is made. I'm not aware of any non-commercial super-auto machines which add sugar. Marc

[@aznboi7v]

I heard most super automatics have trouble with dark roasted beans. Is this true for any of the machines featured in this video?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi WV, Thanks for the question. Dark roast is fine to use. What you want to avoid are beans with visible surface oils. Marc

[@bitmap1638]

If you admit in your comments there are many brands you have not tested, how can you claim these are the top 5 best ?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi BM, Fair question. These are 5 best in our opinion. It's impossible to test every single available machine! So, we are selective on the machines we include based on 20+ years working with machines from many manufacturers. This includes our evaluations of machines based on capabilities, construction and feedback from our service dept - they service hundreds of machines each year.

[@slingblade8963]

2 brands? Looks like advertising rather than a comparison video

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Sling Blade, thanks for the comment. Our team hand selects the machines we sell based on 20+ years of experience working with this equipment inside and out. We currently carry roughly 50 models of superautomatic machines, and chose our 5 favorites to demonstrate to people who may be looking to educate themselves on the options available. In a sense, yes, it is advertising, but regardless of brand, we stand behind these machines as the best picks of the year for the reasons demonstrated in the video. AJ

[@kiddcisco]

Looking for feedback on Delonghi Perfecta Espresso & Cappuccino 5500B , have found a great price wondering how good it is

[@Wholelattelovepage]

I've never personally used that machine, but looks like it's an older model no longer sold by Delonghi. My favorite of their machines is the Dinamica with LatteCrema. AJ

[@jg2467]

Where would the Breville Barista Touch rank here?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi J, Thanks for the question. The Barista Touch is considered a semi-automatic and these are super-automatic. Barista Touch is a more manual process with user transferring the portafilter to group for extraction. With super-autos the machine does it all for you. Marc

[@jg2467]

@@Wholelattelovepage I thought it was super-automatic. Thanks for letting me know, it was on sale for more than half off and I really wanted to get it but didnt

[@bbhh7828]

Which one makes the espresso that tastes the best to you?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Bb Hh, tough call. They're all pretty close but if we're just talking straight espresso, I like the JURAs for their pulse extraction process. It really helps bring out some of the flavors and aromas you wouldn't otherwise get. AJ

[@elchappo1320]

No delongi?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Not on this list, but I did review the Delonghi Dinamica with LatteCrema not long before this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqKufZqHoKenrrs AJ

[@carolineguedes3954]

Which one do you think that makes a hotter coffee? I bought delonghi but the coffee is not hot enough

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi cg, The Gaggia Cadorna IMO makes hotter coffee. One of the only machines I've ever turned down from high temp to normal when using. Be aware no automatic machine will make super-hot easily burn your tongue temperature coffee. To get there they'd have to brew the coffee far too hot which destroys flavor with bitterness.

[@4wolverines]

Thanks for the review. I’m really interested in a super. I was surprised that’s the Gaggia Cadorna prestige didn’t make the cut. Especially since it is a new model. Any reason why ? Thanks

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey 4wolverines, if I was a little less strict on the "top 5" definition, I'd give the whole Cadorna line the award for Best Newcomer. We picked the Barista Plus model because it's unlike any other superauto out there with it's commercial-style steam wand, plus all of the features that exist on the Cadorna Milk and Prestige (awesome display, user profiles, one-touch americanos). I personally prefer manually steaming, so that functionality combined with the lower pricetag for the Barista Plus made it edge out the others for the video. If you want the most versatility, larger drink list, and a more automatic process with one-touch milk drinks, the Cadorna Prestige is certainly the better machine. AJ

[@tonyb282]

Hello great reviews. I have a question. I'm searching for a new espresso machine. My family and I buy starbucks drinks daily and would like to make similar drinks at home. My go to drink has 5 shots of espresso in it. From watching you videos I saw most of the semiautomatic machines like the Breville barista pro pulls 2 shots at a time. Which means I would have to grind, tamp,and clean more than 3 times just to make the one drink that I want. Would I be better off going with a fully automatic machine. I know they are more expensive but the automatic machines seem like the way to go for what we want. I am looking for a machine under $2000.00 that is durable, easy to clean. Do you have any recommendations. Thank you for your help.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Tony, good question. A fully automatic machine would definitely be the easiest way to do it. That said, you could updose on a semiauto and probably get away with two grind/tamp/brew cycles. Keep in mind if you go the semiauto route, you'll also need a good grinder - equally as important as the machine itself. I guess it depends if you more want convenience (superauto) or control/ability to tinker (semiauto). If you decide to go with automatic, I'd recommend the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige or Jura ENA 8. Here's some more info and a review video on each. Cadorna Prestige: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cadorna-prestige kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYnTmINtZZp_eJY ENA 8: www.wholelattelove.com/products/jura-ena-8-espresso-machine-in-black kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHiYZauLfN2DfNE AJ

[@martijnstam6186]

What about the (currently sold out) Philips 3200/5400 series? Here in Europe the 5400 goes for around 600 euros/700 dollars.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Marijn, we don't carry those machines so I haven't been able to test them out. AJ

[@freeshz96]

Best coffee machines of world have made in Arthur Eugster company in Switzerland.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Z, Thanks for the comment. I believe Eugster/Frismag AG makes Jura machines. Marc

[@nichols1969]

How can you tell which is best without even tasting the product?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi b, That's a great question. So all the machines do a good job making espresso/coffee. We've used them extensively. But, it's very difficult to make flavor comparisons as that's subjective and there are many variables involved like grind size, strength setting, coffee length, etc.

[@nichols1969]

@@Wholelattelovepage Wow, thanks for responding. I want to get as close to cafe quality espresso as possible without a lot of work. I'm probably getting the Gaggia Velasca. Good choice? I'm sick of the watery espresso I get from my Jura.

[@mike_reves]

Don't get me wrong, I like the Gaggia and Jura but I think from the history of your videos that you guys are pretty biased towards them. Would have been nice to seen other brands or at least runner ups.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Mike, Thanks for the comment. Jura and Gaggia are the most popular brands. We also cover Delonghi machines.

[@PaulAdrianTeam]

Jura the best ever

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi AP, Thanks for sharing your opinion!

[@manzarek74]

hmm no delonghi ?!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

We love Delonghi machines, but they didn't make the list this time. AJ

[@elizabethwilcox8006]

quite overwhelming...!!

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi Elizabeth, sorry! Just trying to give people as much info as possible so they can make an informed purchase. AJ

[@hellohogo]

top 5 from only 2 brands😒 phillips should be on this list.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi H, Phillips has similar machine to Gaggia. Difference is all Gaggia machines are made in Italy - not the case for all Phillips machines. Marc

[@hb5723]

Already suspicious of this review because you're not showing the steamed milk coming out of the gaggia prestige. It spits milk EVERYWHERE, I've seen it in action.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi HB, Here's my full individual review video of the Cadorna Prestige with many milk drinks being made and no spitting milk!: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaOQfINonsZ9Z5Y Like any automatic machine with milk functions it's important to keep the milk components clean for both hygienic reasons and proper function. Marc

[@TheMainCal]

Seriously bro, can you focus on one's below 200 bucks. If I'm spending 2500 it ant on this yes please asus s17 for 2021 or a mac.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Christopher, check out the Capresso EC Select. Currently $99, a bit more of a manual process and somewhat limited compared to more expensive machines, but you can get pretty good results. It's highlighted here in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJOrgZ2fiLlrf9U For a little more, I'd check out the Gaggia Besana. Small, simple, superautomatic machine without all the bells and whistles: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/super-automatic-espresso-machines/products/refurbished-gaggia-besana-super-automatic-espresso-machine AJ

[@TheMainCal]

@@Wholelattelovepage thanks for the suggestion I will check then out.

[@arelgr9407]

however everywhere we see DeLonghi's in the majority.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Nothing wrong with DeLonghi, we sell their machines and use them regularly, we just felt these picks were a better fit for the list. One of the reasons DeLonghi is so popular is because of their widespread mainstream availability (Bed Bath & Beyond, Williams Sonoma, etc.) AJ

[@arelgr9407]

@@Wholelattelovepage nice, i accept it. : )

[@peanutbutterpancake1703]

Best value: 🙂 Under a thousand dollars: 😶 Ummm... cheaper

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey PBP, for a cheaper automatic machine, I'd look into the Gaggia Brera or Anima. You'll lose a bit of the bells & whistles and customizability of some of the others on the list, but still get great quality coffee and espresso drinks! AJ

[@peanutbutterpancake1703]

@@Wholelattelovepage Wow thanks for the suggestion, I was on quite a tight budget so I ended up going for the beko automatic coffee machine. I only had it a day but I'm quite pleased with it. It only cost $500 AU 😎

[@nospam9035]

The super automatics are getting so many buttons and dials that they are becoming more complex than the E61 machines.

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Ha! It's certainly a balance of features vs. complication. Super-autos, even with a lot of buttons, still eliminate the need for a separate grinder, dialing in shots, long heat-up times, etc that come with E61 machines. AJ

[@slayjay77]

The beat sound in between is so annoying it hurts my brain !

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hey Memo, sorry! AJ

[@stefaneusebiu149]

The best îs Delonghi bru

[@Wholelattelovepage]

Hi SE, Thanks for sharing your opinion!

[@diy.darien]

Who’s here after Biden’s stimmy?

[@Wholelattelovepage]

🙋‍♂️

[@E-A-I_everything]

Does one of them .ake hot chocolate

[@Wholelattelovepage]

None of them have a built-in hot chocolate option but that could all make it by adding hot water or steamed milk from the machine into your chocolate mix and stirring. AJ

[@E-A-I_everything]

Do you know any machines that could make hot chocolate?