Definitely agree on the polecat it's useless, on the contrary I love the berg that guy doesn't know what he's talking about 😅😂 jk, great video good fun!
@noahdensmore60164 ай бұрын
Anything in DX plastic 100% of the time!
@Dance101Instruction4 ай бұрын
Buzzz. So overrated in my opinion. Much rather have a Pathfinder in my hand.
@reidausband93925 ай бұрын
Mikey at the beginning: “Hate is a strong word” Mikey 2 minutes later: “I can’t even look at it”
@BuffFam5 ай бұрын
lol Berg is actually my favorite! It fits so nicely in my big hands and I'm finding that its one of the first discs that I can make go where I want. 🤣🤣🤣
@hiddenleaf4145 ай бұрын
Wild, the peppermint is much deeper than a zone. I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone say the zone is too deep. Also both the ringer and banger zones are pdga approved.
@BallisticBerry4 ай бұрын
If a zone is too deep idk how he uses anything in that slot
@Munchylego5 ай бұрын
Good call on the Buzzz. It feels chunky and dead in the air to me.
@ExploreMore7045 ай бұрын
There are sooo many different plastics and variations it's hard to just say buzzz. Maybe the 2021-2023 ledgestone buzzz z runs. They were really overstable.
@curtisridenour5 ай бұрын
Yeah I definitely feels like it depends on the plastic. I have a Paige Pierce tour series buzz that feels lovely and is just a tick more stable. My esp stock buzz never seems to live up to the hype.
@ComatoseRat4 ай бұрын
@@ExploreMore704 me personally i just dont like discraft plastic, and detest the embossing inside the rim. Therefore, buzzz in general.
@ExploreMore7044 ай бұрын
@curtisridenour I been liking the 2024 tour series Dickerson jawbreaker blend. They throw semi beat in off the 1st rip.
@ExploreMore7044 ай бұрын
@ComatoseRat I totally understand that. Some bad z molds I own have the raised lettering overmold and it felt like I could slice my finger if not thinking. That's pretty poor quality that i understand all too well. Recently I've been getting a lot better product from them
@dylanjones88575 ай бұрын
Dude.. the Innova Dragon. It was so frustrating, because it actually flew very well, but *SOMEHOW* every time it hit the ground it would stand up and roll impossibly far from the basket and tuck itself into a bush or behind a tree. That disc was defying physics in attempt to ruin my round, but again it flew very well. Well enough that a few times a round I would be willing to put my faith in it, and the Dragon would burn me every time.
@EJHoiby5 ай бұрын
Damn, All my distance drivers are MVP and I do bag the Berg X
@Bfordandafter5 ай бұрын
If he doesn't like the Octane or the Wave... he's just lost with delicate baby hands. It is ok. Silly people are allowed to live and even disc golf.
@ScroDiddly5 ай бұрын
The Pixel actually subtracted 3-5 strokes putting. I was using a P2 f3 prior.. went from 7 of 10 with P2 to 9-10 of 10 on 20 footers.
@captainyank1385 ай бұрын
What plastic do you use?
@curtisridenour5 ай бұрын
I don't like it close range but damn does it fly straight. I love it for tunnel shots and 100 foot jumpers that have no chance of going in
@meverkko4 ай бұрын
It's amazing how much love you guys show to the Berg.
@SwankyDiscGolf4 ай бұрын
it really is lol
@kylechristenberry90615 ай бұрын
Let’s all make an agreement moving forwards on 2 things. 1) Luke hates the berg. 2) Luke would marry the buzzz if he could. We all know it. Now we don’t have to hear it on any rankings video anymore forever. Every time a favorite or least favorite ranking is made these two discs are on it, and it just wastes a space. Tell me about something else, maybe another disc you like or don’t like. Every other video talked about the berg or the buzzz. We all know what they do. We all have nothing to learn about them.
@aaronsmith79355 ай бұрын
This
@i2ossEmC5 ай бұрын
I’ve been putting with AB’s CT Jawbreaker Focus for over a year now. Recently got a pair of backups and after barely over a round, one of those new backups cracked. Couldn’t believe it. Luckily I still have more of them. Hope it doesn’t happen again.
@TenacMK5 ай бұрын
The Ringer Zone is amazing. Less glide and more stable than the regular Zone. It was PDGA approved in February btw.
@rub1xbtw5 ай бұрын
I used it all during college nationals and use it in like every round. I use it almost everywhere between 250-300 feet
@ethanmansfield64395 ай бұрын
Glow berg is the perfect forehand upshot/chipshot disc
@josephhenry89775 ай бұрын
You should do a top 5 discs that grew on you as you threw it, like you didn't like it at first but after throwing it a little bit you started to like it. One example from me would be the finish line supra
@bmfitz26474 ай бұрын
That would be the Envy for me!
@salommy5 ай бұрын
12:31 My glow Golem broke too 😭 but it was my fault. I was chucking close-range forehands at the cage for it to sneak through and on the third time it tore through the rim.
@cyanid26005 ай бұрын
Discraft - Fierce Discmania - Shogun Discmania - Tilt Every 13 speed and above Kastaplast- Berg
@dankellom45445 ай бұрын
polecat is the only thing that feels worse than the pig
@kingchuckfinley4 ай бұрын
I owned that envy…. Lost it….. was devastated…. Got an eagle envy
@cptnmarkov31495 ай бұрын
*pretends to be shocked when Luke said Berg* lol
@rainmakes5 ай бұрын
Not the bohrium hate lol. It was weird for a while at first to get used to because it felt like it would slip out but it's been my longest forehand flyer for 3 or 4 of my personal bests. It comes out so fast.
@5stringaustin5 ай бұрын
I bought a couple Passions when they first dropped. I threw them each once in the field and that was it. The worst feeling disc I’ve ever held and it’s not particularly close.
@cmlasley5 ай бұрын
I have one of those Holy Shot Envies and it is a great disc for approaches. And you can find them for cheap, now. Cheaper than the stock run.
@jamesstricklin40565 ай бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only one that hates mvp drivers
@Soupkid915 ай бұрын
The buzz and comet are my least favorite discs of all time. The pixel WAS up there. I bought a few. HATED HATED HATED THEM. And then i started putting with an anode again. And then a few months later i figured id try the pixel ONE MORE TIME and fell in love. I t was like you have to have a transition disc to it. It was weird. But i fully understand that intitial sentiment!
@crazycajun8685 ай бұрын
I do agree with the Buzz. I’m A Discraft guy. I throw the Wasp the most. Focus is my putting putter. And yes I use the Jawbreaker plastic. Change them out every 6 to 12 months.
@austinmeade71505 ай бұрын
The Buzzz is not what it used to be. The old PFN runs were more thin feeling and flew amazingly. The new ones are terrible feeling and don't have the same glide to me.
@NorfarPS35 ай бұрын
1. Roc3, flew nowhere near what the numbers suggest. 2. Emac Truth, always turns over on me. 3. Glitch, too soft gets warped in my bag everytime. 4. There is a prodigy disc I have, the mold isn't the issue but the plastic which I think is 400 or 500 got this weird chalky film on it when I washed it one time. No other disc has ever done that. 5. I dont have a 5
@Iliyena875 ай бұрын
Answer to nr 4: The chalky stuff gets reduced a lot if you oil it just a bit, it is a lack of a certain oil that makes the disc slowly disintigate from what I have gathered.
@ChayseGrizzell5 ай бұрын
My top 5: 1. Harp - too deep and very awkward to forehand. 2. Any disc faster than a mid that has a bead. 3. Octane - borderline unthrowable. It's wide, it's sharp and arguably the most uncomfortable driver I've ever held. 4. Full throw, throwing putters in general - I can't figure out how to hold them. 5. Nova - Who can actaully throw this disc well other than Paul McBeth 10 years ago?
@AustinG93115 ай бұрын
The Polecat is basically a Blue Bell ice cream lid but I really like it
@Iliyena875 ай бұрын
You make me want to get a Bohrium and some older Prodigy right away!!! xD My mindset at the moment is anti-hype. :P
@Iliyena875 ай бұрын
The Berg-hate made me get my Berg, it flies "great" but not for my bag ;)
@ryansuter44245 ай бұрын
Overthrow should host a one disc tournament with the Envy that covers the at cost price of the disc. Or just sale them on your site at cost.
@OverthrowDiscGolf5 ай бұрын
We could do that but we don’t want people getting discs they don’t like in their players packs. Usually we let them pick from our inventory or give them store credit. This would be the easiest way to get rid of them for sure though.
@ryansuter44245 ай бұрын
@@OverthrowDiscGolf Letting them pick is great!!!
@QaIeb5 ай бұрын
I love MVP distance drivers
@trevzy915 ай бұрын
I’m really wondering what MVP molds he’s held cause nothing he described sounded right lol
@xsolar5 ай бұрын
@@trevzy91 Same
@ryansuter44245 ай бұрын
When it comes to feel of a disc it probably comes down to your total hand size. I have smaller than average hands and lid discs such as the pole cat or glitch does not feel it feel great but I can still throw them and get intended flight. If you don’t like the feel of a Polecat or other lid discs try a Watt from MVP.
@BigBig55 ай бұрын
I don't like Innova's Firebird and Sidewinder, even when I used to bag each of them many years ago. They just never really worked for me. Also, I hate the Innova Firefly, even though I throw and putt with Infinite Discs Alpaca which is supposed to be the same mold. Distance drivers from MVP/Axiom feel great in my small hands even the 14.5 speed discs.
@ryansuter44245 ай бұрын
The fact that some of you said the Loft Borhium is too shallow made me curious about it since I like many shallow discs.
@andrewn56145 ай бұрын
Can we get a major discount to buy that envy?
@paulebell5 ай бұрын
Mikey nailed it. Buzzz was my favorite disc for a while and now I can’t stand it. Hand feel is a part of disc golf that I love and the buzzz feels terrible in comparison to other mids with similar or better flights
@JaredTG.4 ай бұрын
Prodigy F Model US. If youve ever picked it up while searching for an understable fairway you will agree with me.
@cannons47894 ай бұрын
The rattler has got to be one of the worst discs to touch my hand.
@justwondering19264 ай бұрын
If you think the buzzz is bad then stay away from the Wasp. Imagine a buzzz with less glide, less distance, turns just as much as a buzzz but fades harder overall making it less straight.
@sm-jj2wp5 ай бұрын
The prodigy flashing era 100%, still have a callus on my pointer finger from my d3's.. haven't thrown or touched a prodigy disc since.
@adamprice3045 ай бұрын
Zone is deep??
@rainmakes5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I thought the thing people don't like about the zone is that it's usually too shallow
@ryansuter44245 ай бұрын
4 speeds!Many 4 speeds have a secondary lip that feels awkward and rubs my fingers more than other discs on forehand throws.
@DiscGolfandOATmeal5 ай бұрын
I hate the Buzz as well, it is the only disc I hate throwing, and I own over 20 Daredevil discs. LOL
@5stringaustin5 ай бұрын
I still don’t think Luke hates the Berg. I think it started as a bit and he got too far in and is unwilling to admit that he actually digs it.
@kbone29584 ай бұрын
I thought the wave isn’t bad
@mattpagel66815 ай бұрын
Hate the passion terrible feel in the hand
@danshackelford4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I knew Luke’s number 1 before the video started. :)
@aaronsmith79355 ай бұрын
Kastaplast Göte. Feels like a bloated mid-range. I hate the dome and overall run feel of it.
@charliegoldie21114 ай бұрын
My 5 least favorite molds 1. Lat 64 racket (rocket? 15speed) 2. Clash over molded thing wild honey 3. Tilt . 4. Agree with MVP drivers... That over mold 🤮 5. Jawbreaker plastic as a whole .. jawbreaker ledgestone scorch was first experience killer stamp, color but sticking it in a ziplock bag it gets dents and dings
@Dav9635 ай бұрын
Wow! The buzz was the only disc that came to mind for me. The feel is not for me. Cant think of any disc I disliked beside that.
@liamsire5 ай бұрын
Just realized his name isn't "overthrow". I assumed that was his name. Josh. Who knew?
@anonymous-dk3um4 ай бұрын
New explorers feel just about as bad as a disc can I had a ricky one that was perfect idk what changed but its not good
@damnmyeyes79504 ай бұрын
I stop taking them serious when they said MVP feels bad in the hand…
@GetAGripDiscGolf5 ай бұрын
Not all over mold drivers are trash but I get what you’re saying
@peanutbutterjelly.75 ай бұрын
Aerobie aero 😭
@ryansuter44245 ай бұрын
Innova Nexus has extruding points that are annoying and I had two that cracked. I am a slower than average thrower.
@billherrera63865 ай бұрын
Yeah I cant stand the Buzzz. It is so big in my hand. I found an Armadillo and actually like it better than the Berg. As for MVP drivers, I agreed to a point. I like the 11 speeds and 14.5 speeds. Something about the 12 and 13 just don't sit right. The Time Lapse is the worse offender. I really wanted to like it.
@JosephBroadbent-b6x5 ай бұрын
The kastaplast rask... It's terrible...I also agree with the buzz... Gather I do putt really well with the pixel so yeah lol
@ryansuter44245 ай бұрын
This guy is James Conrad! Calling him this guy came across as disrespectful
@ryansuter44245 ай бұрын
Most putting putters,approach discs and midranges thrown by pros are usually too deep of a disc for me putting well and throw forehands with.
@chrisrhome66385 ай бұрын
Flame on!
@JohnBell35 ай бұрын
'The width of the rim is insane." Not all of them are 15 speeds. WTF? So dumb.
@michaelswick4251Ай бұрын
Can’t throw the Passion at all
@Bfordandafter5 ай бұрын
The Ranger hurts your hand? Why are you so soft? Now it isn't my favorite disc, as the Hex is just better..... but glad I don't have weak, soft, delicate baby hands.....! As for Prodigy, I've never picked up a bad A2, A3 or Pa3. Now the weird gumminess of 400 plastic from the past? Just weird.... floppy rubber discs are gross..... most can agree on that.....
@eoghana3155 ай бұрын
Mikey isn't wrong about the Buzzz.
@stuartautr34415 ай бұрын
Funny, you say you can convince me the Buzzz is trash. Yet all of those things you said as a replacement were hot dog shit.
@allenhammitt50925 ай бұрын
I hear Buzzz, and just wanna throw up. 😆
@carson92264 ай бұрын
Ofc the noodle arm am’s hate the buzzz
@JesseJ5885 ай бұрын
I dont even know what #4 was, and i watched the whole rant. Speak clearly or put text on the screen please.
@rikcbc4 ай бұрын
Lone star Texas ranger
@Matt-lw1ew3 ай бұрын
Hate on the Fierce, buzz and zone…..😮
@chrisrhome66385 ай бұрын
Fire House
@kingchuckfinley4 ай бұрын
Middle swanky is using the berg wrong, so it makes sense. You don’t throw a berg, it goes in the berg whole. Duh.
@noahdensmore60164 ай бұрын
Titanium buzzzz is incredible all the haters need to zip it!!!! Ahahahaha keep talking BERG smack too while I park every up shot with it 😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 y'all just ain't good enough to BERG it thats the real truth!!!!!
@ks-pg5sh5 ай бұрын
The Kastaplast Rask.
@Sweat_Lord695 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@crazycajun8685 ай бұрын
I am not a Innova person at all. Since I started playing here where I live about 10 years ago. All we had here was either Innova are Discraft. Roadrunner was about the only disc I liked. 😂
@JesseJ5885 ай бұрын
It's weird how I hated most innova the first few years I played... 9 years later more than half my bag is innova and the Banshee is my favorite disc of all time. Weird
@BransonRaber4 ай бұрын
Honestly I hate the roc 3
@andrewdendel70685 ай бұрын
Dislike the Nuke
@ScroDiddly5 ай бұрын
Definitely do not like Sky Gods.
@evanstanek58385 ай бұрын
1) Anything Big Z, that plastic is attrocious 2) Agree on the overmold drivers 3) Scorch, the convex underpart of the wing just makes this impossible to get consistent good release for my small hands 4) Method (see also Malta), never seen a single person bag one, just not a useful slot 5) The Prince, just cause that ad voice is so terrible
@BryceRogers_5 ай бұрын
have to disagree. Big Z Buzzz is the best buzzz because it makes it more overstable.
@josephdaniel35665 ай бұрын
I love my Methods. Only disc I’ve aced with. I do suck though.
@Bfordandafter5 ай бұрын
My first ace was a Malta...... but it was easy to retire because I still didn't love it..... Hex, Reactor and Pyro for me in the mids now.
@nickgeisler54095 ай бұрын
I hate the hex I would rather throw a buzz
@mthompson03315 ай бұрын
it's almost like....... the overthrow guys are sponsored by clash discs........ cmon this is trash.
@TedReffrey5 ай бұрын
What an absolutely awful video premise. Making fun of discs and companies you don't like. I lost a lot of respect for Swanky and Overthrow because of this video. Get off your high horse.
@trev39715 ай бұрын
They should change their name to Overstock Disc Golf, since all my dude did is grouse about things that cost him money. Related/unrelated, 80% of disc golfers should never buy another disc; they already have too many and they can't actually throw most of them.
@OverthrowDiscGolf5 ай бұрын
Not a bad idea 🤔
@thomasdivine58255 ай бұрын
#1 the HEX🤮 And all cheap plastic Like DX plastic 🤢
@haydenmcdaniel11555 ай бұрын
Mako and nova are the worst feeling discs ever
@ryansuter44245 ай бұрын
Agree on the Nova! Plus they break more easily than most discs.
@nickwood90534 ай бұрын
Well this was a horrible choice to actually watch. I know Robby C is a tool but it’s starting to look like the whole group is….🧰