Top 5 Most Bizarre Conspiracy Theories in Survivor

The truly most bizarre conspiracy in Survivor is how a guy nicknamed 'Fabio' beat 19 other people.
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[@youkaliciousx299]

"Erik wasn't punished for drinking the producer's Gatorade, Erik was punished for drinking the women's kool-aid" had me fcking rollin'

[@littlegreencap28]

POETRY

[@robpagenkopf5829]

My all time favorite is the "secret second season" conspiracy. Basically, the theory goes there was a season filmed between Borneo and Outback that was never aired because the cast was boring and the winner was unlikable. Not wanting to have two villainous winners back to back that early on and possibly turning off viewers they paid the cast off and shelved it. Later, this conspiracy was morphed into the idea that the secret season was eventually shown and it was Thailand. Obviously ridiculous but the idea of a secret old school season never seen by anyone is a fun idea.

[@zacho123]

I love that theory too, but the person who originally came up with that admitted they made it up as a joke

[@robpagenkopf5829]

@@zacho123 Yeah, and even if they hadn't the idea is absurd. The allure of it though is definitely fun.

[@Mentally_Will]

I don't know how anybody could believe that because in the very first episode they give Ken a round of applause for being a NYC police officer. They're applauding because 9/11 had just happened - and it wouldn't have happened before Outback filmed.

[@BlueSpiceSpace]

@@Mentally_Will nah they just felt like clapping

[@andrewfutterman3346]

@@BlueSpiceSpace Alternate theory (also shared on Reddit): Marquesas was the "secret" season, because the producers were uncomfortable filming so soon after 9/11.

[@kingkrelly1315]

Peridiam works for Survivor and runs damage control, hype and advertising, and storyline clarification. Nice try, but you've been caught. :)

[@youkaliciousx299]

ladies and gentlemen, we got'em

[@Radiosublime]

😱

[@guntherstewart8941]

Lmaooooo

[@ziyle5238]

Yes

[@random_jae5886]

Ayo, I don't trust no Macho Grubba.

[@andyland5555]

My favorite is the one about how the Outcasts voted Lil back into the game because she was annoying and no one wanted to go on the pre-jury trip with her, so by voting her back in they didn't have to deal with her anymore.

[@alanw9620]

From the sounds of it that actually isn't a conspiracy theory but truth :p How true it actually is though we will never know

[@ryanchan6922]

Yeah this was definitely true. Burton talks about this.

[@davel2990]

Pretty sure that one is true. Didn't they talk about that during the Pearl Islands virtual reunion that happened in 2019-2020?

[@reginamachamer821]

Idk about the reasoning being that she's annoying.. I think they voted for her bc they all thought no one else would vote for her (bc she's annoying lol) and it would give them a better chance at having the most votes. Basically.. the same way Oscar won the costume contest that one Halloween on The Office lol

[@petermcgill3405]

I think it was true for some of them. I know Skinny Ryan actually did want her to succeed in the game.

[@penndawt]

Imagine if all these conspiracies were incorporated into a theme for a season called Survivor: Conspiracy Island.

[@cammyr12Productions]

🤣🤣🤣

[@tessstern7009]

Don’t give them any ideas 😂

[@zacho123]

So glad the bizarre Micronesia theory with James, Alexis, and Erik raiding the production camp got included. It’s pretty amusing to think about, but then why would they bring back James and Erik for future seasons? Still, it’s funny to imagine those three running in the dark after being caught

[@evankraabel5415]

I think only James and Alexis did, and James was such a massive favorite they were willing to look past it. Which also explains Alexis not having been back, because lets be honest, the idea that a girl who went as deep as she did, was as popular with fans as she was, and is as hot as she is wouldnt get brought back is a little unbelievable. It makes sense to me that the producers were wiling to cut bait on a widely popular and intelligent hot girl, which they have had a ton of over the years, but not on somebody as beloved as james was at the time. Or maybe they were going to cut both players, but felt it was fair to give james 1 more to make up for his clearly legitimate injury.

[@אריאלגוטמן]

@@evankraabel5415 she is not hots , wasn’t so popular by the fans , and let’s be honest everyone like Natalie more and I don’t see her on at all stars season

[@LucasF7125]

To be fair, Natalie was an alternate for Heroes vs. Villians.

[@reginamachamer821]

That's a really good point.. I didn't really think about that. I have been hearing for years that Woo got caught stealing water from production during Cagayan, which I REALLY didn't want to believe bc I love Woo lol but I mean you're right, why would they bring him back after that? With James I could maybe see them being like "well he's the fan favorite every time he plays.." but Woo? I feel like everyone like Woo, but not to the extreme that everyone liked James lol idk but this does make me think it probably is just a rumor.

[@bustercherry5085]

@@אריאלגוטמן she’s a smoke tf you mean lol

[@chwaftka9775]

In a potential part 2: -The "Secret 2nd Season"/"Thailand was S2" theory -Bobby Jon beat Stephanie in the firemaking challenge conspiracy -Mark Burnett forcing Shawn and Dirk to vote for Stacey instead of Rudy -Production framing Butch for burning the camp down -Kim cheating by strategizing with people on the way to tribal

[@TequilaMockingBird91]

-Colton Cumbie pretending to get sick in One World to force an evacuation literally just to save himself the humiliation of getting voted out / quitting.

[@tenerife_sea]

honestly Bobby Jon has a great physique but never performed in any challenges lol. and yes, I included both seasons. he's mid at best, so I don't believe that theory. he couldn't even win the gross eating contest...

[@kirstybrown1185]

is that Kim one not a fact and why they aren't allowed to talk on the way now? That is the opposite of a conspiracy. Season 2 being Thailand is so dumb, that is why it doesn't get taken seriously. Even if it is true, many shows do not air seasons for many different reasons. One in Britain wasn't aired a season on ex on the beach because of a contestants suicide after filming. The issue is, that the US feel entitled to answers more than they actually are. This just isn't a big thing that anyone should care as much about as they do. Hardly a conspiracy, posts like these remind me why there are so many anti vaxxers and flat earthers in the US. People over there go way too hard over nothing.

[@cutiepuppy4427]

@@kirstybrown1185 The reason you can't strategize on the way to tribal was back in Season 2 with Tina during the Mitchell vote.

[@58twright]

@@cutiepuppy4427yes because in the voting confessional Tina said that was not her intended vote she said on the way to tribal council a new scheme was developed

[@jackbellinger1216]

Conspiracy Theory: Peridiam was paid off by producers to ruin all these conspiracies. I really miss Survivor! Awsome vid Peridiam!

[@patrickleahy9534]

..to ensure his return.....

[@reginamachamer821]

5:35 I think if Sash really did that, they would've made a HUGE spectacle of it and basically humiliate him just so others don't try to do it in the future.

[@SmoothCriminal12]

Yeah. If they thought there was any truth to that, I don't think they would've kept him around.

[@dukerich3935]

By the title already I can already tell we need a part 2

[@finnskywalker2273]

10:56 Putting this small part of the conspiracy to rest: As someone who treats these injuries, the positioning of James’ injury puts him at risk for anything from loss of joint function to infection quickly spreading to his hand to a potential loss of the entire hand. There’s no way he doesn’t get medically evac-ed, it would be medically negligent otherwise. The cannula in his left arm in this clip likely has IV antibiotics running already.

[@BlueSpiceSpace]

20 years later and we STILL don't know the truth behind the beef jerky thing

[@andrewfutterman3346]

Kel had the beef jerky. If you listen to the commentary for episode 2 on the Australian Outback DVD, they talk about how he was stopped by security at the airport for trying to smuggle beef jerky, and how soldiers in the Army are taught to sew beef jerky into the hem of their pants. Also Probst has stated that he does believe that Kel had the beef jerky.

[@petermcgill3405]

Beef jerky was code for Jerri catching him playing with himself

[@petermcgill3405]

It wasn’t my idea. I found out about that on r/survivor.

[@TequilaMockingBird91]

To this day, I don’t know how it is that Jerri is considered to be a villain just because she was the only one on her tribe who has enough balls to confront that contestant (forgot his name) about the Beef Jerky when no one else was willing too.

[@tenerife_sea]

@@TequilaMockingBird91 she wasn't a villain just bc of the jerky thing ya know....

[@reginamachamer821]

"'You just voted out one player from your tribe. You will now vote out another' ... That isn't fun." Lmao i love Parvati

[@Ramboost007]

Cook Islands Parvati is an underrated character. Didn't play hard (because she never needed to, she was in a dominant alliance until she got majorly screwed), but still showed flashes of manipulation that will be evident in the seasons to come (became the de-facto leader of the now-minority Raro alliance, tried to tempt Yul and Ozzy with charm and strategy to flip, evidently she became so dangerous that they voted her out before Adam who was winning some of the immunity challenges)

[@reginamachamer821]

Yeah.. I feel pretty confident that, had Erik been FORCED to give up the necklace, he would've revealed that by now. At the very least he'd have said some sort of cryptic comments in response to the massive amounts of people who gave him sht for being the "dumbest survivor player ever". I just dk that he would've just took it all these years without saying anything.

[@uglyaniimals]

esp given that erik is big on fan interaction and has gone into detail abt what happened in his caramoan medevac, which *was* actually different from what was shown on tv

[@kirstybrown1185]

the poor guy just believed he didn't have a chance without any move, unfortunately, he would have beat nearly everyone, except Cirie and that is only because people thought her hands were clean, which they weren't. After this plan, she should have been brought back as a villain.

[@lizzies4964]

I agree about the bottle theory in Cook Islands. There was just one bottle and the producers were banking on Aitu winning that challenge, which was a fair bet. I do wonder what would have happened if you remove the bottle twist though. Rebecca goes home and it's 6 to 4 favoring Raro. Yul may have had to play his super idol to save himself, but I think he still may have been able to flip Penner to his side, giving them a 5-4 majority anyway. It's fun to imagine what may have happened but I think Yul still would have made it deep and may have still won.

[@cutepiku]

Yeah, I've always theorized they have multiple challenges planned in case the voting goes a certain way, and it really seems like they also gear challenges to the advantage of whatever person/tribe they like, so the one bottle theory makes perfect sense to me. They did a challenge that was physical to give the Aitu 4 their advantage, and had only one bottle prepared because they figured it was a shoo-in.

[@roger_towny_jr]

Wouldn't have mattered if Raro just took the challenges more seriously. Nate and Adam were physically stronger than both Yul and Ozzy, and Parv Candice and Jenny were all stronger than Becky and Sundra. Jonathan was no slouch, and they had ONE liability in Rebecca. So just have her compete in the reward and put your A-Team up for immunity. Problem was they got too cocky. They had the numbers (and people on the outs they wanted to get rid of) so they didn't think it mattered if they lost immunity challenges. Their complacency cost them the game (as well as keeping Penner around but refusing to talk strategy with him.)

[@christoman2000]

Compared to others, I never thought the bottle twist was strange. Cook Islands was the first 20 person season (Palau really doesn’t count). In order to keep the 14 episode season, there would need to be 3 episodes with double boots. There was the time both tribes visited tribal, the bottle twist, and the the finale which usually already had 2 boots. There needed to be a double boot built somewhere into the season ahead of time, I think they just changed when it was introduced.

[@roger_towny_jr]

@Raheem Fielder-Bey The "White" players really only have themselves to blame. They made the choice to get cliquy, pick off the minorities, and not branch out their allegiances after the swap. They chose to keep Penner around as their work horse yet refuse to include him in any real strategy talk giving him zero incentive to stay on their side. STOP trying to blame production.

[@roger_towny_jr]

@Raheem Fielder-Bey Doesn't matter. Point I'm trying to make is the white players did not play very well. Every single one of the five of them made massive strategic and social blunders at some point or another in this game.

[@ThexJohnxSmithxShow]

My conspiracy theory is that Jack was allowed on the jury in island of the idols because the producers knew they would likely have to eject Dan, which would leave a 9 person jury voting on a final 3. That means without Jack there potentially could have been a three way tie

[@nicklandkroon8182]

Even hedging their bets, a 10 person jury isnt bad anyway, we saw a tied Jury in GI, and that was great television.

[@TheKYLEdavid]

Interesting idea, but considering EOE was in play the seasons before and after IOTI, and EOE makes it so production has no control over the jury size, I doubt they were thinking that far ahead

[@pearljoyoftheorient]

If this were true, Im glad it happened. I think Jack and Elizabeth Beisel fell in love or at least spent time with each other in Ponderosa and now they’re a couple.

[@nicklandkroon8182]

@Raheem Fielder-Bey so? Just dispels OP's conspiracy. Also, I believe the tie break there is person who received least votes to leave.

[@PunkZombie1300]

@@nicklandkroon8182 If there are three being voted on to win and two of them tie, the third would vote for a winner and be the tie-breaker. In a three way tie this wouldn't work, since they'd all have the same amount of votes so one couldn't be singled out to become a part of the jury (or to leave and have the jury re-vote like your idea)

[@nicolefegan]

Creating a petition for this to be a series of videos

[@SpanishFly120]

That would be awesome. There's so many cool theories.

[@chwaftka9775]

Peridiam explains the Survivor iceberg

[@avilst1765]

For Amanda not being shown finding the idol, I think producers were still figuring out what to do with idols. Yau-man playing his idol just two seasons ago, was weird since they just read it as a normal vote, with all of the Yau votes being read after all of Stacy's votes being shown.

[@123tewh]

Also they handled Amanda's idol just like Gary's idol from season 11.

[@juliap8566]

Please do this for Big Brother. HELEN WAS PUSHED

[@lucasdahl3876]

lol I came here to comment this.

[@drewcoyle5223]

McCrae admitted Helen was pushed and they all got paid

[@cammyr12Productions]

That theory has to be true 🤣

[@danWHY]

!!!! id love to see this video

[@lovelyluna961]

I’m so happy someone posted this. Helen WAS pushed

[@hunterdvs6535]

My favorite is on Reddit where people said thailand was the real second season of survivor that producers hated so much they didn’t air it until later

[@em-ily1227]

Surprised the theory about Christy voting for the wrong person in Amazon didn’t make the list. If you didn’t know, the rumour was that she misunderstood the final vote and voted for Jenna, thinking she was voting her out of FTC and therefore giving Matt the win. She hated Jenna and people assumed she’d never vote for her to win. Adding fuel to the fire, Christy’s final voting confessional was missing from the CBS website (similar to Jane’s). The thing that sucks about this conspiracy theory is that Christy is Deaf and there were no interpreters out there. There’s this super gross implication that being Deaf means you’re dumb or something, and it’s never sat right with me. Of course misunderstandings can still happen, to anyone, but there’s always been this vibe of “she didn’t know what she was doing because she’s Deaf” vibe and it’s really awful.

[@TequilaMockingBird91]

The reason why that’s not on the list is because it’s not a conspiracy theory. That really happened.

[@evanprince3875]

That makes a lot of sense. I have hearing problems (not deaf but I can't tell where sounds come from) so it's very hard to navigate even having most of my hearing intact, it does put me in some dangerous and awkward positions, like if a door opens right next to me I rarely think to move away, because to my ears it could be from the opposite side or even behind me. Same with objects flying at my head that I can't see, the whistle doesn't indicate to me that it's getting closer to me, I just hear an object moving fast somewhere. I have to be constantly aware of my surroundings, whenever I enter a new place I always make sure I get a good read of the exits, danger that could happen from something falling, where people are relative to me every couple minutes. I really look paranoid, just constantly glancing around any room I'm in just to make sure I don't get caught off guard. I can't even begin to imagine how hard it was for Christy, I always remember that scene of her asking a tribe mate to fill her in on what they talk about at night because she can't read their lips in the dark. She's one of my favorites for sure

[@tenerife_sea]

@@evanprince3875 yea, but Jeff asked her if that was the case in the Reunion. and she said no it wasn't true, and that she voted for someone whom she thinks deserves the win more.

[@teresawatson1038]

@@TequilaMockingBird91 Cristy has confirmed she wanted Jenna to win more then matt

[@kirstybrown1185]

You acknowledge it is awful when people mention it, but want it included? That makes no sense. Most people don't include it because it is horrible ableism. How do you want it to be said and not want it to be heard?

[@greysonwilliams7402]

Last time I was this early, tony was a 1 time winner

[@SpanishFly120]

Holy shit Peridiam. I wasn't expecting my comment about the "Mortgage-Gate" Voting Comments to get aired. Major props to you, good sir.

[@ethanmcbride7048]

One of the more plausible ones to me is the idea that the final fire making challenge was introduced in season 35 to save Ben

[@58twright]

Production rigged heroes healers hustlers for Ben to win

[@nebulous798]

@@58twright Same way redemption Island was a safety net for a challenge beast like Boston Rob. That plus the clueless newbies.

[@58twright]

@@nebulous798 redemption island was a season designed for rob to win Natalie & Andrea are gorgeous too

[@petermarshall7352]

Except the twist was revealed BEFORE Ben lost the final challenge with the upside down U. The note was in the bottle with Jeff before that challenge began.

[@RuyLopezTheSicilian]

My take on the Cook Islands bottle thing is that Probst never called attention to it until after the challenge. If Aitu lost he could simply not mention the bottle and let Aitu just vote off one member rather than half their small tribe

[@kathryndunn8052]

You have a good point there. He reached down to grab it so it was out of view to everyone but the film crew and maybe the most observant of players. It could also be possible that there were two bottles hidden down there and Jeff was told to use one or the other based on who won, giving Aitu an advantage. However, it would probably be more obvious to do that and it’s probably easier to just disregard it if Aitu wins.

[@lisandrodiaz6320]

The last theory is actually insane since it would imply 5 seasons were rigged for someone to win which production could try to do but how would they guarentee they didn't just get first boot. The more plausible reality is that Tyson was an idiot.

[@TheKYLEdavid]

Plus, if they were so willing to hand out wins, seems kind of odd to not give Russell the win in HvV considering the whole plan was to help him

[@lisandrodiaz6320]

@@TheKYLEdavid Yeah and there have been many times where things have gone the way production more than likely didn't want or got close to. One of the biggest examples of this is the f3 of Cagayan. Production has said that at that point that they wouldn't want a Woo/Kass f2. If this is what production wanted they could have just made that season a f3 but they didn't and continued the game the way they planned which supports the idea that it's not rigged.

[@attoboi9763]

America has very very strict rules on game shows rigging their winners, idk if survivor is America based or a game show, but it seems like it could be considered one

[@אריאלגוטמן]

@@lisandrodiaz6320 no but they maybe gave final 3 deals and not wins like coach didn’t win right?

[@NYChica23]

I've seen Tocantins enough times to know that the latter scenario is probably the one that actually took place

[@margaretbaldwin4416]

i actually kinda liked the bottle twist that eliminated 2 players instead of one. it was kinda a win-win. if aitu won the challenge, the other tribe would have to sacrifice two members and even the playing field, making it a more exciting game where you now had an underdog team to root for. but if aitu lost the challenge, and had to get rid of two members, it speeds up the tedious process of picking off the aitu members one by one, which could’ve been a pretty boring couple of episodes

[@rosiellagrace]

That 'Sunny' outro, *chef's kiss*.

[@codypagels1598]

Survivor producers handing out future rigged seasons like candy just to help one guy make the merge and then allowing that same guy to get voted out third only two seasons later sure makes a lot of sense.

[@ermerlie]

i think i spent more time this year watching “Top 5” survivor videos than i spent sleeping

[@Mentally_Will]

Two things I'm kind of surprised weren't mentioned here... but kind of not because they're almost universally agreed are true: 1) Jimmy Johnson quit Nicaragua 2) RI was set up for Boston Rob to win. Not fully rigged, but they cast a bunch of his fans to fill out the ranks (and implemented the redemption twist) to give him an astronomically good chance.

[@TheKYLEdavid]

I feel like those are more up in the air whether they are true or not, whereas this video seemed to focus on theories that Peridiam is very certain are unture

[@de-niall]

for no 2 i really think that was the case too

[@chwaftka9775]

#2 was literally mentioned in the video.

[@alexbenedict1879]

Stephanie from that season was my favorite she deserves better

[@Ramboost007]

Did Jimmy J. really want to quit? He was a Survivor fan and he loved the game

[@daveinthevicdot]

My favorite conspiracy is that in season 2, the producers saw another Pagonging coming and needed to figure out a way to even up the tribes at the merge, so they paid Skupin to "fall" into the fire and burn his hands. Medical emergency makes for more mainstream coverage, 5-5 split at the merge makes for more interesting strategic options, a player being taken before their time gives them a "heroic" final episode. Of all the players on that tribe, who braver, stupider, better, and more believable than Skupin to take a header into the fire? Remember, this was the height of Survivor mania, and presumably the height of Survivor having a lot of money to throw around, so throwing Skupin a secret $150k payout would be a sound investment in publicity and the future of the game.

[@chwaftka9775]

Always thought it was weird how they showed a shot of 2 birds when Michael fell in the fire instead of, you know, the guy falling in the fire.

[@RudJohns]

@@chwaftka9775 Because its too graphic? wtf

[@chwaftka9775]

@@RudJohns So it's too graphic to show a guy falling onto a fire and immediately getting up and running off of it, but not too graphic to get a close-up shot of his hands and arms with skin burning off of his it?

[@RudJohns]

@@chwaftka9775 yes

[@chwaftka9775]

@@RudJohns I'm just saying if that scene was shot today, it'd show Michael tending the fire, beginning to look a little delirious, and then a shot of his tribemates reacting to the scream. Not... a bird.

[@matthewauld6704]

No theory that Willard was the immunity idol all along...?

[@andrewfutterman3346]

🤣

[@nicolesavitsky4476]

How about “why couples never work except for power couple rob and amber”

[@Falcon3e]

He has one

[@easy_nator_gamer8498]

They ruined it for everyone else lol

[@Phyrre56]

Because they did it first. No one thought about "we have to eliminate the person who will clearly win at the end because they're so well liked" until Tina won in Season 2. No one was paranoid about nerds winning until Cochran did it, now everyone wants to vote out nerds early because they're "dangerous." Players see what worked in prior seasons and try to stop it from happening to them.

[@NYChica23]

@@Phyrre56 Also how no one was really paranoid about the pretty girls making it deep/having a girls alliance until Parvati came along

[@choux7746]

@@Phyrre56 umm rupert did but ithers believed rob like an idiot

[@derekbroekhoven5498]

The last one is extra funny, cause SoPa was obviously designed for Ozzy to win, not coach lmfao

[@chwaftka9775]

@Peter McGill Despite the fact that Ozzy was the back up returnee lol

[@dubu5801]

@@chwaftka9775 who was the original

[@chwaftka9775]

@@dubu5801 Phillip lmfao

[@MiKen877]

@@chwaftka9775 Phillip v Coach certainly makes more sense... lol

[@Ramboost007]

@@MiKen877 Survivor: Crazy Island

[@kyles7023]

Peridiam saw the post on Reddit and was like "I got my next video"

[@gabootsyneedspotatochips6371]

Hey Peridiam! Love your videos, and I have a few ideas of potential series you could do going forward: "Story of ___" or "____'s Survivor History" where you go in-depth to a specific player's Survivor career, wheher they are controversial, beloved, underrated, etc. I know you've already made an in-depth video about each winner's road to victory in each of their seasons, but this series could focus more on their evolution over multiple seasons (if they've had any), what makes them a distinct player, and how you feel about them personally! "Iconic Episodes" Shorter play-by-play videos that go over, well, iconic episodes of Survivor. Whether through an interesting strategy, a surprising blindside, a shining character moment or anything else that sticks out! I feel like this would be cool for any interesting episodes that don't get mentioned often because they're either a part of a "meh" season or they just don't get much attention otherwise

[@seraphinaedan1033]

I actually really like the few times where they don't show us if the player has found the idol they were searching for, it adds a lot of suspense to Tribal Councils!

[@jonathanhiley2375]

One conspiracy theory I've heard was that Bobby John actually won the Palau firemaking challenge against stephanie, but stephanie complained and wanted to stay in the game. The rumor goes that Bobby John took $10k to leave the game and Stephanie got to stay. It's interesting to consider but idk if I believe it

[@llorona7847]

They’d have to do this every season if that was the case because someone always complains they got voted out. Doesn’t pass the sniff test.

[@jonathanhiley2375]

@@llorona7847 I’m not saying I believe the theory but I think it’s different than normal seasons bc there were only 2 people on the tribe. Still unlikely but not impossible, only 2 contestants were involved if there was actually a change in the outcome

[@tenerife_sea]

@@jonathanhiley2375 honestly Bobby Jon has a great physique but never performed in any challenges lol. and yes, I included both seasons. he's mid at best, so I don't believe that theory. he couldn't even win the gross eating contest... he was never a challenge beast for any type of challenges

[@notamberp]

ain’t no way in Survivor hell would production let someone stay in the game just bc they were upset about leaving lol anyone who believes that….yikes

[@SmoothCriminal12]

The most unrealistic part to me is BJ taking only 10K. You'd have to give me at least six figures for me to even consider it.

[@northernking4787]

In a game of starvation weed pills is the last thing I’d want, however mike did always look high af if we’re being honest!

[@lovefromshirley]

People saw Boston Rob acting his fall because the camerapeople didn't catch it live and STILL think he has the acting chops to pull this off?

[@drewcoyle5223]

The mortgage thing probably happened but sash probably just wasn’t respected because of it

[@Colby-xd9ko]

Not just because of that though. Didn’t really seem like anyone liked sash throughout

[@SpanishFly120]

I mean yeah. It's a reasonable conclusion that "Jane accused Sash of trying to strike the deal, Sash denied it, and the Jury went 'dude, not cool', and lost all respect for him as a result", like you said.

[@TakaMaru777]

jeff is harvesting a piece of soul from each player when he snuffs their torch

[@reginamachamer821]

Everyone on the Survivor subreddit has been telling me that Woo was stealing water from production in Cagayan. And they implied that it wasn't just once. I don't want to believe it lol I love Woo 😭

[@58twright]

That is why they called him weasel woo

[@TBM7777]

I was totally expecting the secret second season that was so boring they never aired it (or perhaps eventually aired it as Thailand) to show up here

[@daniels44]

We need more of these, I'm sure there has to be more conspiracy theories and rumors, I've read them alot so there has to be. This is really entertaining, you should make atleast one more episode

[@reginamachamer821]

I've also been told on the Survivor subreddit that Mookie has claimed that Michele didn't actually light the fire with glasses, but production actually used a lighter to start it. That one baffles me as well. Mostly bc EVERY player who was there made a big deal about how proud/impressed they were that none of them could get a fire going except Michelle. I was thinking maybe what happened was that she DID start the fire with Yau's glasses, but they didn't get it on camera, so then they asked her to kind of crouch down and pretend she's making the fire again or something..? Idk like that's pretty much what she was known for like that would be highly disappointing if it were true.

[@behindthespotlight7983]

The important part about Michelle and Fiji is that she took a header off that platform and I am still laughing 14?years later

[@reginamachamer821]

@@behindthespotlight7983 lmao true.. that scene will never not be funny. Her absolute lack of reaction is the best part 😂

[@notamberp]

this is why we don’t believe everything (or anything really) on reddit lol

[@reginamachamer821]

@@notamberp .... they literally made Hatch recatch a shark bc they didn't catch it on camera the first time lol its not that unbelievable.

[@ryanklima791]

I have two related to the Outcast Twist in Pearl Islands. Redemption Island/EOE has been used as a safety net for popular players like Boston Rob, Ozzy, and Joe, but what about someone who has never played before? Maybe the Outcast Twist was introduced in PI specifically to protect Rupert? In the event he was voted out pre-merge he almost certainly would be in the Burton position of leading his tribe to victory and would have a ready-made underdog story. The other theory is that the Outcast twist was going to be used again in All-Stars but was scrapped due to negative feedback. “What the...?” Pt.1 aired four days before All Stars began filming.

[@58twright]

Can you imagine if the outcast twist was used again in all stars wonder how that could have affected the game Jenna morasca & sue hawk might not have been it that however I have read that sue hawk had wanted to come back into the game after she quit & they asked the other contestants if that was ok with them & they all said no

[@drainstorM11]

I was surprised with the lack of Thailand is Season 2. That must mean it's true

[@Sideshownicful]

So, there weren't two bottles in case Aitu lost the challenge. Instead, the producers were pretty sure Aitu was going to win the challenge (a swimming challenge with Ozzie on one team), so they created a bottle twist to eliminate 2 players from Raro. That's... better... I guess?

[@christophersholes1377]

I mean that is a genius way to get build on that underdog story without more direct interference. They guess they will win it (no guarantee) and use the twist to help push them forward. It still seems like a legit outcome because they could have technically lost, therefore it is actually legit.

[@philipthomas8928]

That Jeff scene from 2 and a half men lol

[@itzmeconar6991]

What I think is really funny is that in season 20, Boston Rob and Tyson were stealing gasoline from a generator at one of the camera camps and had no penalty 😅

[@58twright]

I still don’t know how they got away with that of course Boston rob could do anything on that show & probst would still love him

[@samanderson5774]

On the last one I also want to point out Samoa hadn't aired when HvV was filmed, so that makes even less sense.

[@MrBen51309]

They would've known how popular he would become based on his aggressive and innovative gameplay.

[@MrSnape77]

Yeah, Raro going from 8 to 5, while only voting out two people ís kinda weird.

[@arthurmoreira4501]

they voted out brad before the double eviction tribal council. so they went from 8 to 5 in 2 episodes

[@MrSnape77]

@@arthurmoreira4501 I know that. But he describes it wrong in the video.

[@mollydonovan5642]

Would love to see you do this for big brother. Also Helen was pushed

[@bigbrothersnapchat1295]

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[@seanmmurray]

Loving the It's Always Sunny reference! my two favorite shows in one video? dream come true!

[@PineappleLiar]

That last one is absolutely wild cause, like, on one hand production wants three people they wanted on their show out quickly, but also all three of them were also apparently good enough for them to want to win a season outright? Also, is South Pacific is a season biased for one particular player to win, that player was Ozzy, not Coach. Redemption Island does have a lot of ‘let Rob win’ energy, though, so there’s one point in that. While Redemption Island had a lot of potential crutches for Rob, however, I still think he put in a lot of work for that win.

[@SmoothCriminal12]

I'll also add that while Cochran is a very good player himself, he also benefitted from having a mostly garbage cast and a surprise Erik evacuation. I dont think they rigged that either.

[@larrylandon2624]

Bens whole season was a conspiracy but lets focus on the then new "Fire Making Challenge". Gee who's going to win a Marine or a surfer? It was so suspicious they had to immediately announce it was planned and will be included in the future. I am sure that was just to try and save face!

[@ryanweiner7018]

What about the conspiracy that the producers fed Kelly Wiglesworth in Season 1?

[@abrosal]

My mom swears up and down that Wentworth’s elimination of Savage was a set up of some sort.

[@maximilienarcand115]

Wasn’t there also a theory regarding the fire making challenge in Palau. Like it was supposed to be a best 2 out of 3 thing but then Stephanie complained after Bobby John won and so they redid it.

[@iamdavidcjones]

I always thought that Ben finding the idol right next to where he was sleeping always a bit suspicious.

[@willking5618]

I stand By my statement that Sophie could have won WaW easily if she had played her Idol

[@worthplayingfor2197]

Maybe

[@setuptables6803]

no, why does she get so much love she sucks

[@lisandrodiaz6320]

@@setuptables6803 Because she's good at the game

[@tymcneilly8328]

@@setuptables6803 how does she suck, legit proved that she isn’t a bad winner by playing one of the best games in WaW

[@setuptables6803]

@@tymcneilly8328 lmao if she go voted out that means she didn’t have a great game in fact it means she had a shit game, literally it doesn’t matter at all who and what she had or even that it was a blind side she was voted out and didn’t play the idol bc she didn’t know she was going yk why????? bc tony just had a better game, she sucks and had a bad game thats the beauty of survivor, if you get voted out that’s tough even if you had a “good” game bc it really isn’t good if you loose

[@NickWengz]

I think the only one of these that might even be remotely true is the bottle. The others are way too ridiculous.

[@brettkallman241]

Let me just say I’m glad you delved into some unique theories and not just talked about Stacey Stillman like everyone else does

[@philipthomas8928]

Hey Peridiam would u do another conspiracy video cause there are a lot of them out there... The thing is Russell said that Amanda told him who they were gonna vote during their journey to tribal on the merge episode of HvV where Parv plays her double idol which in Russell's opinion was a mistake cause he already knew who they would vote for... What do u think

[@easy_nator_gamer8498]

So Amanda told Russel they (Heros) were voting Gerri on the way to tribal?

[@philipthomas8928]

@@easy_nator_gamer8498 Ya that's what Russell is claiming, it could be true cause he was perceived by the heroes to be a guy who's on their side

[@tylers8865]

What Russell was claiming is that during the period of waiting in the tent before tribal, Russell overheard Amanda whisper to someone Jerri's name.

[@Ramboost007]

@@tylers8865 Classic of Russell to claim something like that. It was evident in the merge TC that Russell was shocked by Parvati's double idol move. Now he's trying to retcon the story so that he doesn't look like a blindsided fool and to take away credit from Parvati.

[@reginamachamer821]

I always wonder what would've happened if when Jeff asked if anyone wants to mutiny to the other tribe in Cook Islands, what if they ALL stepped off the mat? Like if all of Raro stepped forward..? Would that force an early merge? Would Jeff simply not allow it and edit the whole scene out? Surely they realized that could happen. And I'm sure I'm not the first person to think of this lol this thought crossed my mind as soon as he asked. I feel like, had I been there, I would've told them all to step forward and hope they listen and see what happens lmao Idk if this is mentioned in this video lol if so my bad I paused to comment this the second I heard mention of the mutiny Edit: I meant if everyone from Aitu stepped forward. I mean same difference I guess but it would make more sense for Aitu

[@michaelgear7642]

The Pepe Silvia reference in the thumbnail is what really does it for me

[@jacobwilliams1223]

The idea of any theory that has Rob be removed early from the game by the producers should be utterly foolish for that reason alone. They build an entire goddamn season off the gimmick of Russell vs. Rob, why would Jeff cut this feud short when they actually shared the same tribe the first time? This also ignores that Rob has been a massive producer's favorite for far longer than Russell.

[@TequilaMockingBird91]

To be fair, I 100% believe that Rob’s win was handed to him by producers, but not in the way that is portrayed here. I don’t think there was ever a “deal” or a “negotiation”. I think that they knew that Boston Rob is one of their Golden Gooses and so they’ve given Boston Rob a tribe of people who have a specific psychological profile that just so happens to be consistent with Rob’s preferred style of gameplay. In other words, they’ve gave Rob a tribe full of sheep who are either too scared / too mentally incompetent to think for themselves and see through Boston Rob’s scare tactics. Simultaneously, they gave Russell Hantz a tribe full of people who’s psychological profile is 100% incompatible with Russell’s style of game. That is, they’ve gave Russell a tribe full of people who they knew would be instantly skeptical and resistant of Russell. So with Boston Rob being on a tribe with zombies who worship his every move and another tribe who couldn’t care less who wins (so long as it isn’t Russell), it’s easy to see why Boston Rob won so solidly.

[@choux7746]

Just like i feel with parvarti

[@58twright]

I definitely believe that redemption island was a season designed for rob to win

[@killakurt6211]

The only point against this is that at the start Rob/Russell drew buffs to see who ended up on which tribe. So it wasn't 100% guaranteed they would even end up on said rigged tribe

[@calebarsenault382]

I think there probably was a backup bottle that one of the producers would have swapped before tribal. The second one probably told them to go back to the other tribes camp and it could have started a "fake merge" instead of voting someone out

[@ToastyPL]

most interesting and unexpected intro ever

[@pedantsunited5368]

ok wait i might believe the cook islands bottle theory. you can't deprogram me peridiam

[@pedantsunited5368]

but i would take it one step further and say that the alternate bottle would be a "noone gets eliminated today" bottle

[@SheaAllDay]

Really enjoyed this video and would love to see another conspiracy video in the future!

[@vikingsbball21]

My personal favorite conspiracy theory is Bobby Jon initially beating Stephenie in the fire making challenge on Palau

[@Remolfm]

“Erik wasn’t punished for drinking the producers Gatorade, he was punished for drinking the women’s Kool-Aid.” That’s extremely witty, I love it. That’s the wittiest thing I’ve heard all year dude.

[@reginamachamer821]

The thing with Sash making deals and James and Erik stealing gatorade.. I just don't see why they would hide something like that. I feel like it would make way more sense to air it. Not only would it be entertaining, but it would kind of set the tone for the game. Don't cheat or you're probably out.

[@Rhogue]

Surprisingly little mention of CGI Brett, a character they fabricated in the endgame of Samoa to keep up the suspense so the Foa Foa Four didn't steamroll their way to finale night. Even crazier, this CGI character manages to win 3 immunities and actually splits the alliance before Russell wins the final immunity challenge to get rid of the fictional character that production inserted into the season midway through.

[@pedantsunited5368]

the HvV conspiracy is hilariously unbelievable

[@marklisowski6549]

Future video topic: most bizarre and/or entertaining votes casted in either Big Brother or Survivor (like Tim voting for Cassandra in BBCan4, Topaz, arguably even Tyson voting himself out)

[@finniganflynn7603]

My thoughts on the DvG contraband thing: It was realvegasforsure who leaked that. Iirc this was shortly before she was fired from CBS for leaking production info. Perhaps the contraband rumor was started by someone within to see if Vegas would take the bait. Which, of course, she did. I don't remember exactly WHEN Vegas was fired but I'm like 90% sure it was before BB21 started, so it's not completely out of the realm of possibility

[@Flareboxx]

I love how you didn't mention the conspiracy from season 35 where they introduced the fire making challenge just to give Ben (The Underdog) another chance to win the game (after he lost), because that is basically considered truth at this point and there's no evidence against it haha

[@mr.pockets8523]

Careful or the survivor ninjas will get you

[@spenjaminn3846]

I heard they actually added it after david was voted out in mvgx

[@rokeYouuer]

I'd say they didn't introduce it for Ben specifically, but for people like Ben: players who deserve to win, but get taken out right before they can make their case before the jury.

[@Flareboxx]

@@rokeYouuer But Ben didn't deserve to win if he was going to leave without a random twist at tribal...

[@GroverJ83]

They literally hid one of his late game immunity idols right under the exact spot he did confessionals for multiple times throughout the season. His win was the Lakers-Sac Kings 02 wcf of Survivor.

[@willhoover1520]

This was such an amazing video. Please do more like this!

[@juliejustdance]

That last one is so crazy! I love it!

[@MikeGlasses]

Next video, times productions changed the game to shape a narrative they wanted. I.e, Aitutaki4 bottle, the abundance of idols in Cagayan since Tony was finding the majority etc etc.

[@easy_nator_gamer8498]

Well of course they're only going to show one bottle on TV. Did you really think they'd just leave the 2nd bottle just sitting there by Jeff's feet while they zoomed out? lol. Seriously though, do we know with 100% certainty that the bottle was in the Raro tribes possession all the way from when they got it right up to tribal counsel?

[@wiseguy149]

While we can never be perfectly certain, there is at least some visual evidence to suggest that there was one bottle, and absolutely no actual evidence that there were two. It's not like what we saw was foolproof and definitive, but there still isn't a tangible reason to believe the conspiracy theory. Even a tiny bit of imperfect evidence for one bottle outweighs having no evidence at all for two. The burden of proof is on the conspiracy theory here, and it just comes up lacking.

[@TheKYLEdavid]

If they were going to swap the bottles, I'd imagine they would just have 1 in Jeff's pocket and have him make the swap during the challenge if it was necessary, since the players would be focused on the action Giving the wrong bottle to Raro and then hoping they'd find a way to swap it without anyone getting suspicious just seems too risky

[@FrenkTheJoy]

@@TheKYLEdavid Well, it seems pretty easy to me for the producers to just be like "okay give us the bottle so you don't lose it or anything before we meet up again tonight" and then just swap it out then.

[@TheKYLEdavid]

@@FrenkTheJoy I feel like the players would probably get suspicious if Jeff handed them a bottle and then just took it back

[@trevorpeglowski9086]

A double elimination here is beneficial to the producers anyway - it goes the way it does (which is a good bet, Yul and Ozzy are amazing athletes and Penner and Rebecca just... Aren't?), Then this is an amazing story that arguably saves survivor. If it doesn't, at least the Pagonging is over faster and doesn't waste episodes after the merge

[@cammyr12Productions]

Do big brother conspiracy theories!! ❤️

[@TequilaMockingBird91]

I’m surprised the “Production Gave Ben the win and change the end game structure when it was clear that Ben would lose because they really wanted a veteran to win survivor” isn’t on this list. Though, for what it’s worth, I do believe this theory. I don’t normally like conspiracy theories but hiding an immunity idol literally conveniently at a players favorite napping spot is a bit too much of a coinkydink for me to swallow.

[@SmoothCriminal12]

I believe firemaking was always gonna be a thing regardless, but they certainly helped Ben in regards to the idols.

[@tenerife_sea]

@@SmoothCriminal12 yea, but at least the producers can push that twist to the next season lol. when this season people already plenty suspicious on ben's favoritism, that's like adding fuel to the fire..

[@reginamachamer821]

"I'm not a very vindictive person ... but I hope they all get wiped off the face of the map." Lmao I want this Coach quote on a mug or a hoodie or something 😂

[@drunkendog13]

You forgot Dan Foley falling from a palm tree and killing someone

[@MrMarquette2000]

Based on their reactions to getting out, I wouldn’t even bat an eye if I found out the last theory was true

[@pdg3513]

For the bottle one I think that it is possible that production could have swapped out the message inside or swapped out the bottle with an identical one when all the players were asleep and the cameras were off. Is it likely, no but it is possible there were "two bottles" just maybe not the way that one would think

[@dukerich3935]

I buy into the Mike theory with a twist. I believe production made it seem like Mike won to lots of people as to not spoil that Mike didn’t win after hearing about Mike’s weed pills and he would’ve been disqualified had he won

[@TOTALPWNAGE3]

Not a conspiracy theory but more of a “what if”. I remember reading an article about 10 years ago that stated that the producers had thrown around the idea of shooting a season away from the tropical islands and instead being in a snowy coastal area to put a spin on the survival element. One team’s shelter would’ve been a small cabin and the other’s an abandoned lighthouse. I imagine that it would’ve severely limited the challenges but I’ve always thought that it would have been a unique spin on things. Anyone else ever heard this story?

[@walsh9080]

This is only half true because Jeff has spoken about it. Jeff said, a Swedish show similiar to Survivor, tried this and it made for terrible television. It was basically impossible to strategise when they were all forced into a small shelter. They had toyed with the idea but doing research revealed it would've made for a really boring season.

[@alexishall7125]

I never even noticed the connection between Rob’s, Coach’s, Tyler’s, and Cochran’s wins. 😮😮 holy crap!!!

[@RudJohns]

What about the theory about Sarita hurting her teeth and wanting to quit but producers convinced her to stay for a bit longer to "build" a blindside?

[@elliottheredd]

The first theory is definitely true. There were two bottles!!

[@SPVLaboratories]

i like that i know exactly what that picture is in the bottom right of the thumbnail

[@sydneylanigan4657]

Bro u are clutch with these uploads

[@cosmiccalamity112]

The Micronesia one is so interesting to me and I love it.