Top 5 Rules ALL OFFLANERS MUST ABUSE - Best Tips to Carry and Rank Up | Dota 2 Pro Offlane Guide

[@Cuhsidy]

Hi, 6.5k mmr offlane main here. Another thing is: when playing team fight offlaners like SK/NS/Pango You want to KNOW what you're supposed to do/target BEFORE the fight starts. SK= counter initiate NS= silence spell dependent heroes/disrupt the fight Pango= stun important targets not the backlines. You'd want to visualise how fights go and plan accordingly. note: not complex plans but simple ''I am NS I will silence lina and zone out the mag ETC''

[@angelolupango8873]

What do you mean by pango? U must stun their front liners?

[@dejavu8982]

@@angelolupango8873 yep roll over the carries so they cannot attack or move freely. Supports wont do a thing on you since u are spell immune during the roll unless they have spells that goes through magic immune. (Bane ulti, enigma bh etc.)

[@SpeeedYT]

Castral I like this

[@Cuhsidy]

One of the main problems I see with low mmr offlaners is that they don't know what they're doing in fights. They just run around in the back lines killing supports while the enemy team rails his team over because the important targets like mag/es/kotl isn't killed. I've seen nightstalkers literally IGNORE es/mag in team fights to chase a CM(in 5k mmr btw) because they're so tunnel visioned on getting the easy kills. If the ns just hovered around with aghs void and constantly/chased the counter initiates on the opposite team, it would be an easy game for ns.

[@SheeeenaH]

Bro pango needs to aim disablers and counter initiators like wyvern,shadow demon,slark,CM, or something like that to make them easily bursted so they cant counter initiate or cast skills

[@indie8845]

I was playing a game today, where my pos 4 was hanging around creeps in the lane, trying to deny, harass opponent and kept drawing aggro, which affected my last hits and pushed the lane. I asked him nicely to harass enemies from the jungle side of the lane, which he did well, and probably got so excited about not losing hp to creeps, that he over-extended and fed. In order to prevent having an extra creep in lane, plus their carry farmed mostly under his tower anyway, I asked my pos 4 to pull their next wave from behind their tower and bring it over bounty rune spots to in between our t1 and t2, and there make it meet with our next wave and slowly last hit both waves to completely deny ours. I drew a line of pull path for him on the minimap. He pulled his first wave straight under our t1 tower, which of course only denied me the xp and gold. So, I went to show him how it's done, emphasized re-aggroing creeps when going up the slope as they lose vision, while he gained some xp in lane. He successfully pulled next 3 waves, while I farmed alternate ones under my tower, still gaining xp from his. We denied their carry quite a few waves of xp, forced him to jungle and eventually ganked and killed him a few times. It ended up being a close match and imho the main reason we won, is that their carry was both underlevelled and underfarmed from the laning stage. Sometimes your supports don't do things you expect them to. Don't start flaming them right away, ask them nicely first. Sometimes, they genuinely don't understand what you want. Show them, don't throw them to other lanes cos you're better off solo, it may not actually be the case.

[@arturoprado4754]

Bro you're such a good player, hope to have more players like you here in sea.

[@wajahatzafar9767]

Can you play with me you seems like a nice player unlike some toxic people 👌❤

[@user-yy3ki9rl6i]

To quote khezu "if you see your teammate struggling, help them, make some space, talk to them. Dont flame them bcs it wont make them get better."

[@kevinree6461]

Thats good move, its called leadership and take the game defensively

[@샘-b7p]

+1

[@sundaegwapo]

Sees the video length is 14:56. Me: Check runes please!

[@muhammadvikral4367]

Lol i see the length of the video and i feel the urge to do something, than i remember ahhh bounty rune guys XD

[@fortknarzch1351]

Ma boi ya betta check that shit every 5 mins

[@fortknarzch1351]

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[@fortknarzch1351]

Ma boi ya betta check that shit at every 5 mins

[@lukestevenson9745]

@@muhammadvikral4367 lol stack camp check runes

[@de20]

One of the very annoying thing about low mmr players is that they dont know when a lane is lost. Take a venomancer offlane for example. Lets say youre a solo venomancer against a tusk jug Its 7 minutes in, you have 8cs, 0 kills and 3 deaths. The jug just hit level 6 What would you do? Most low mmr players would stick around the lane, trying to get a measly last hit in while the wave is constantly next to their T1 tower because the jug knows how to control the wave and the tusk knows how to pull Staying in this lane gives you NOTHING. You have no farm, no exp and are constantly at risk of being killed when gone upon. The best play would be to completely abandon the lane and go for your triangle camp. If you managed to recognise a losing lane early, you can probably even outfarm the jug who gets an entire free safelane but either way even if you dont at least you are getting farm and arent feeding Time and time again i see low mmr players not abandoning the lane and even CRITICISING(read: flaming) those who actually did the correct play and abandoned it The laning phase isnt everything. Recognise what you can do and dont desperately try to lane because thats the "obvious" thing to do

[@arcgonzales5540]

I was Weaver and my partner in offlane is Zeus. He wants me to def and doesn't want me to farm at Lvl 4 all because he was always been killed in that lane. I decided I needed to farm fast and get deso early but criticizes me for doing so. Even threaten that I will be reported.

[@joromiealbarida2206]

@@arcgonzales5540 same as me when I went to Anti Mage. I was farming for my items and get back to lane to push and then my teamates always complain that I didn't join team fights wherein all they do is just to kill a hero but already level gap but never understand to push as much as possible.

[@DudeWatIsThis]

The best thing would be not picking Venomancer for the offlane in the first place though.

[@de20]

@@DudeWatIsThis depends on the meta. Veno with a stun/slow can give a lot of kill potential on weak safe laners. Veno can have multiple roles so it's a comfortable first pick. If your team picks the rest of the lane after your already picked veno, you dont have a choice but to offlane - former immortal 1000 player that beat immortal 100s in 1v1s so actually im an immortal 100

[@DudeWatIsThis]

@@de20 But then it's a pos 4, not a real offlaner. Pos 4 Veno is okay I think, and a good first pick. Especially since you can also jungle and leave the lane solo to a Timbersaw or Viper if the matchup looks bad. Trouble is: most of the heroes that are good at sololaning are not the best initiators. I feel like the hard supp needs to be some kind of initiator (Venge/Pudge/Treant/ES) or at least be a heavy-stuns hero if you go Veno. To me, Veno always feels like I need 4 items for him to work. You lack mobility (dagger/forcestaff), you lack disables (atos/orchid/... sheepstick?) and you lack sustain (glimmer/ghost). So for me, the best option is to let the offlaner solo and just jungle, so you can realiably have a couple of those items in the early 20 mins. And if you're forced to pos 3 as Veno, you better win before teamfights become a thing in that game.

[@slava2884]

8:20 this is something I've thought about a lot. The idea that you don't have to fight to win. You have 2 main ways. Fight and try to overwhelm your opponent. Or pressure and farm until they crumple at your feet.

[@SpeeedYT]

Jack frost fighting is often unreliable

[@darkvistar4213]

Yeah goes 2 ways, just had a 45 mntz game i had 2 - 1 -23, ddnt fight in lane farmed and when decided to push , smashed it

[@slava2884]

@@SpeeedYT I keep trying to convince my team of that and they don't seem to listen. When 5 stacking I see it happen. But my friends just don't understand most of the time. And in solo queue its even harder most people just want to fight and fight and fight.

[@rejikegford6168]

"Offlaner is no place for the weak!" Gained lot of MMR using your Pudge guide thanks!

[@SpeeedYT]

Reji Kegford wp!

[@soheilrazi9290]

One of the greatest problem wich was holding me back as an offlaner was overthinking to farm or fight i was farming like an antimage taking safe farm and now fighing or fighing like a brute with 100cs at 30 mins and it is one of the gratest problems most low offlaners have.

[@varieedeventualii]

You are so right about the low level pubs offlane mentality, I'm 3k and each time I duo offlane whoever is with me wanna trade, ALL the time. I mean, sometimes I get carried away too but I moslty find it annoying coz, as you said, 1 or 2 kills won't give me what many cs will.

[@darkvistar4213]

U should trade here and there, place some kind of pressure. Let the safelaner consume regen items. Have balance trade and farm. I usually like to taunt as well and laugh. Makes them go crazy if u deny and laugh. Not cz m toxic no only to pressure them in each and every way possible.

[@dacre9937]

MORE OFFLANE CONTENT PLS

[@SpeeedYT]

Ananda Sunandar ARG

[@micahporter75]

Rule number 6: Think of what would speed say before doing anything

[@cyberbeastry8809]

Truee

[@itriggerpeople4433]

"Go jungle veno and buy mangoes"

[@collin9143]

U wil lusss, I ripit, u willl lusssss

[@Zymsickles]

Veno jungle #Spreadtheplague

[@НубикРубик-ш9х]

That one will stay for a long while with us. :D

[@hydraulichydra8363]

6:35 two words: "I'm Ink Swelling. Go!" - I think that's four, sir.

[@sxleong]

Holy crap I actually thought the LC at the start was a dazzle.

[@FataMorgana04]

BOWIE: supp luna SPEEED: veno junle AlCHEMY: CK SUPP Thanks guys

[@SpeeedYT]

Diavolo #stp

[@darkvistar4213]

I am an offlane god, learned most of these stuff by time, 1- reading enemies. Invoker approaching to cast tornado, blink on him as axe and call. Did the same with Doom. The problem is when ppl dont understand what u r doing, foe example i pick axe and the enemies 100% aware that m gonna jump so they keep distance from eachother, but my team pings and spam go go go go why dont u initiate. Late game speaking u need one good call to win a fight, goin in 2nd is a better option. But no ppl spam go go i blink call maybe 2 heroes get euled up, my team is in shock not ready for this scenario, GG

[@taimurrizwan93]

What's your MMR?

[@darkvistar4213]

@@taimurrizwan93 legend 4, 3566mmr

[@itdmlionucfh]

Iam waiting your videos every day like my life depend on it 😅😂💔

[@SpeeedYT]

[@waltervillafane1392]

Appreciate this! Awesome video!

[@SpeeedYT]

Walter Villafañe ty!

[@goom3103]

I alrdy adapt this rules, and by the way the pudge guide was legit,

[@SpeeedYT]

james allocod awesome!

[@Yuyuu97]

hype for more offlane content #OfflaneisnoplacefortheWEAK

[@SpeeedYT]

AA Akutagawa NO PLACE

[@Yuyuu97]

@@SpeeedYT let me correct it #OFFLANEISNOPLACEFORTHEWEAK

[@MegahNevel]

Techies a lot of times is either a easy win or a long hard lose I do agree with you, playing against techies and getting high ground for a T3 is a nightmare, and that's why the game gets longer and longer

[@ferntuble7665]

Don't forget to buy basi for extra mana regen since offlane heroes mostly have low mana

[@hanshongyap3690]

Tyz for the offlane guides it really improve my games cause im an offlaner too

[@aido2541]

Love the offlane vids!

[@SpeeedYT]

Aido ;)

[@aido2541]

@@SpeeedYT is this another real account?

[@jeftanginmadafak4306]

Ive been watching this channel, and suddenly I realized I didnt subscribed yet 😂😂😂, thank you game leap!! 💞💞😍

[@luqmannur5303]

Speed can you make the new guide for high ground push

[@bonniferful]

My favorite offlane enemy is a solo axe who backdoor. We both well farmed free. Lol

[@exen3980]

Offlane is not about farming,They have to push,join teamfight(with the right timing) and roam.

[@fukouda-sama]

Can we have pos 4 content, please? Like what heroes are viable, tricks and strats, etc. Thanks Speed!

[@21ndrstjokeerr70]

im an offlaner and i'm sorry and i deeply learned... thank you :)))

[@SheeeenaH]

Hey speed i really want to tell this My core MMR is 7k and my support is 2.9k what should i do?? Play carry always or play as support

[@lukeultra309]

BUY THE SMOKE should be a new chat wheel phrase xD

[@polodoskyz]

teach me how to farm as and offlaner pls, I always feel that I should be where the team is in case they need me, but the carry and mid takes the farm from the area and I dont get to farm well during the game

[@Yuyuu97]

speed already give hints on the video

[@drjp4212]

By farming the difficult one. Farm lanes while pushing and invading enemy jungle. Most offlaners have flash farm skills, even though they don't scale that much with farm. Sand king, bristle back, Bat, DS, Axe, LC (she farms wonderfully while cutting waves and stacked camps), Tide, Pitlord...and list goes on. It's active farming, because you're creating space for your team and decreasing enemy's one, while being near battles.

[@Yuyuu97]

just dont buy midas while playing offlane.

[@angelolupango8873]

Maybe try to sit on your lane and farm the emeny jungle in bounty runes side. .dont go to highground farm near to their shrine. .and watch minimap always. .do it when it ls free. .so enemy went to you and give space to your carry .some offlaner leave the lane after pushing tower

[@SpeeedYT]

Polodosky your mistake is the first line, you don’t always have to be where the team is, push waves and call smokes and you can control when the fights happen

[@Sephiroth0232]

If i'm playing omniknight what are my spikes? when am i supposed to do stuff? let's say i'm laning vs a slark cm, I don't see what I can do in this lane with any level spike

[@zedopikao]

BUY THE SMOKES, BUY THE SMOKES

[@muhammadwalid8440]

@@gameleapdota2 XD

[@get_right1373]

Quick and weird question: Is Pudge offlane a thing?

[@slimycj]

Techies and snapfire offlane duo unstoppable gg offlane

[@zackfrostdota24]

Btw can i request a complete guide how to cut wave ? I currently learning to play Axe. And i just don't know when to cut creep. I Saw 8k Players cut from lv 1, i copy it but ended up 0-4. Should i wait till lv 3 then i cut wave, or how? Need someone to explain. Thank you very much. *i do everything in this video and now i rank up, currently 5k mmr. Thanks man

[@playmates2373]

5 rules of Sea player offlane 5. Die 4. Blame teamates 3. Cry alot 2. blame again 1. Throw

[@Bryan-mw4en]

this is why i only want to solo as a offlaner, most support in 3k bracket doesn't know how to play and actually his presence makes me lose the lane.

[@c3ppp000]

Depends on situation and draft, sometimes its good to have 3v3 at offlane to crush enemy safelane. Basic

[@amerkayani6001]

awesome

[@mimingvlogs6125]

for me as an offlaner..denying is more important than last hitting..agree if you think the same thing..

[@enok230]

Hii speeeeeed I would love to see some more mid guides, Thanks to your Invoker guide i make like 300mmr in 2 days ^^ :D

[@ドゥマリラニー]

Nice .. i learn a lot

[@Z3RO458]

“Low MMR 3k and below” MY HART OH NO

[@jhomarieopena166]

SPEED THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO

[@broodfather5290]

7:14 jugg: hold my beer

[@Hohenheimm69]

Speeed. Pleaseee do a guide about drafting

[@rw-by6752]

BUY THE SMOKES BUY THE SMOKES

[@estebanburbano2825]

What do you mean with tempo controler?

[@adabidasboi7764]

Yeah,chasing is not the only thing offlaners do but...if you play nighstalker and it's night time... *SWIGITTY SWOOTY COMMIN FOR DA BOOTY*

[@kurumu53]

My offlane Earthshaker had 12 cs at 12 minutes :)

[@solidpas761]

Maybe u are bad at cs or ur offlane support is not his job. Maybe u picked the wrong hero against the enemy heroes.

[@kurumu53]

@@solidpas761 I was playing Pos 1 that game and had 70~ cs at 10 minutes, I was saying that the person playing offlane ES that game wasn't doing a great job of it.

[@solidpas761]

@@kurumu53 oh ok i guess i misunderstand it.

[@asodaniel184]

What is the hard farm

[@bilalmumtaz2199]

speed i am a legend 5 offlaner can i send u my replays will u be keen enough to look at them ? i win my lanes majority of the time even the difficult lane by manipulating creep wave but still loses the game, I have item sense as well just tell me what i am lacking

[@SpeeedYT]

Bilal Mumtaz look into the KZbin community tab for another post soon

[@tingispingis]

One of the most satisfying things about offlane is when retard psychopath supports gank you 24/7 and leave your carry and mid to snowball and you just end up winning because the enemy team would rather stop the offlaner from playing Dota than trying to win the game

[@eugenemendoza70]

any tips on facing a tri lane safe lane as a solo offlane?

[@giyutomioka671]

Buy sustain, gain level and own them at power spike skills or ask mid for rotation

[@drubai88]

Great content

[@ong5589]

Last hitting... Right. Not if 2 digit IQ supports are last hitting every creep from me.

[@zlodrim9284]

Please do a Mars guide. #spreadtheplague

[@itdmlionucfh]

There is one but old

[@icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851]

Mars < legion rEEeeEEeEEeeeE

[@SpeeedYT]

Komandant Data that hero dead af, maybe next patch

[@exen3980]

As an offlainer dont get killed at early games

[@deva8496]

7:28 poor magnus got killed while urinating in jungle

[@Ihatefoodbuffs]

Thats what I am trying to tell my team mates. Read the situation first before clashing. If the core is getting aggressive or less cautious, it means he has a backup. Now Identify who the back up is/are, then if u cant fight with that prediction, why not wait for a little more sec, because his backup will not wait forever. Then go. I guess prediction is really great thing in dota

[@fai9al86]

Im an offlane player and in my trash bracket ppl keep picking carry hero and farm lane with me :)

[@exen3980]

I hate getting gank in early game

[@_maza_2443]

I'm sorry but it's hilarious that you think a pos 3 should be keeping up with the enemy pos 1 in cs.

[@solvsdowjsi7006]

Is lycan still OP for free 25+mmr

[@Farmhousehorror]

Is there a game links app?

[@samuelellringmann3424]

More guess the rank pleaaase!! =)

[@NontonSaja_]

Clock Pudge Timber That 3 hero very easy as offlaner

[@spidermen432]

what is cs? camp stack?

[@Dotanator]

I've made a quick video 5 main mistakes or tips if you like, drop by, take a look.

[@darkvistar4213]

Keep it up

[@ginolorenzo4117]

Speed: rules for offlaners SEA: NO

[@koksaaker42069]

I don't know what mmr match you watch. But I'm under 2k, and the offlane is just safelane, players just don't care lol

[@hiru836]

Yup someone was try this build against me It so hard to counter bruh

[@alexstarseeker8693]

Video starts at 0:43

[@cem481]

In my pubs faceless void is in front coz he's unaware of ganks

[@mackan271]

A drinking game should be created where you have to take a shot everytime he says "often"

[@BLACKMISTS]

what to do if your hardsupport is wraith king and offlaner is clinkz...... and as a safelaner u pick axe to balance it out but now team blame u for picking axe ..... report him ....... really. True story btw true story

[@enok230]

Bro i dont even want to know what your mid was :D

[@beansnrice321]

My fav lane

[@AlessFD]

Players in SEA have ~4 second brain lag so communication is useless.

[@Six_slotted]

thats the actual lag from their internet cafe

[@supertilapia]

i think everyone should know who is iceiceice... The greatest Offlaner that you could know and i am a great offlaner myself

[@legioncommander4459]

Im in a red days. Smh i hate the matchmaking. Im legend 2 previously ancient 1. I have allied with uncalib with no ranked at all vs 2 ancient5 rank. Its just not balance.

[@SpeeedYT]

Nawlram take a break, it’ll help

[@ehtishamahmarofficial597]

Hi,Speeed.

[@micahporter75]

Ever just wish you could convert your vast knowledge of a game you don't play anymore into knowledge of another game?

[@conceptualelegance]

bruh.. playing like this gets you reported ) still doing it .. but i need like 2 - 3 weeks of unranked to get my behavior score healthy again

[@apoo.1611]

Top 5 rules, more like Speed just lowkey rant, lmao.

[@SpeeedYT]

Allen Apurado Ur Not wrong lol

[@badtree1893]

Hold up hold up.. Underlord is Offlaner?!?! No wonder I lost when I played him thinking he was pos 5..

[@giyutomioka671]

Yea youre probably 2k below

[@red-hairedshanks8369]

''I'm ink swelling, go!'' 1 + 1 = 322

[@alikhuzai13]

2 #spreadtheplaque

[@НубикРубик-ш9х]

Veno jungle. Go minus mmr.

[@mangjuan223]

kids at sea will wait chrono or else they wont move and blame you.

[@buusadventures8938]

Dosent apply on sea

[@Sol_Aderator]

how to carry as an offlaner thats what I'd like to see

[@snafunafud2819]

Tbh some of the words your saying cant be understood sorry but i like your content :D

[@nikusson]

U right speeed i just earlier today played offlane pos 4 Lina(herald match) with legion. I told him asap when he got that 200+ gold to buy quell but no that idiot rushed treads and kept them on agi the whole game and just went for hitting the enemies and diving t1 which ofc equals +1 death on him(idk if that dude was male of female probably stupid rushian boi) and he lost like 4-5 duels (66 dmg) to doom bit later and died fucking 21 times and basically lost us the game...very bad basic herald match...also after that under 3k conduct ppl can't speak it lowered communication by 99% and no one uses mic on herald...fug.......++++i called Rosh like 20+ times and nobody reacted like pinged smoke million times and smoked up and then they just went mid and took shit fights and died.

[@amirulhakim9898]

Ew tell your offlaner that legion is a frikin strength hero

[@nikusson]

@@amirulhakim9898 ye he dumb af😐

[@asmael4456]

Jesus, SPeed you sound so young lmao!

[@bagig2385]

day 2 of asking speed to do a lifestealer guide

[@SpeeedYT]

Batzorigt Ganzorigt I see u brother, can’t take specific requests due to time constraints. I plan to get to every hero a some point

[@giyutomioka671]

Do u need a guide with this hero? I think he got level one complexity. Smh

[@almightykoka]

7:37 rofl

[@darksamm9925]

What is hard farm? Im new at the game

[@matthewdelano1755]

Hard farm is farm that is further from your tower. The enemies "triangle", or where their ancient camp is, is the hardest farm. A lane that is pushed away from a tower is hard farm. The enemies jungle camps are hard farm. Easy farm is normally safelane and your jungle.

[@SpeeedYT]

Sama XD also areas with low vision

[@darksamm9925]

Oh thanks guys

[@tristanpatena6709]

did he just say "kpi-i"?