Lena made Cersei perfect. Charles Dance was dead on.
@alexhodgkinson67185 жыл бұрын
The lannisters as a whole were far better cast than the majority of the cast. See: Tywin, Cersei, Jaime, Tyrion, Joffrey.
@jbthinker14236 жыл бұрын
I still can't forgive them for cutting out Renly's peach.
@RhadaGhast1006 жыл бұрын
Same, the whole relationship between Renly and Stannis with the peach made it all the more heart breaking.
@gas4675 жыл бұрын
@@RhadaGhast100 especially when he's in denial of his crimes and says he'll avenge him
@allieessen9064 жыл бұрын
Boybandhair I know I love their relationship and the comment with the peach was great
@Grinderman1006 жыл бұрын
Margaery Tyrell is a far better character in the show. She is much more fleshed out and brilliantly acted.
@atro-city6 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong, I love the acting, but in the books, her character works better, as there's a lot that's left up to our interpretation, and not without purpose, it's not clear if she's scheming or not, which makes Cersei's paranoia much more relatable for me, as she is the POV there.
@s.w.d40106 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree. I love House Tyrell and I think book Margaery is so much better. Everyone is terrified of Joffrey because he is so unpredictable. When Sansa warns The Tyrells about Joffrey’s true nature, Margaery simply says “The Little Lion better behave.” House Tyrell’s power is displayed far more in the books than in the show. Tywin himself had to appease the Tyrells.
@RacinZilla0035 жыл бұрын
@@s.w.d4010 "House Tyrell's power is displayed far more in the books than in the show." YES!!! Willas and Garlan are sorely missed. It makes for a hilarious contrast that every member of the Tyrell family is super talented except for Mace Tyrell who inherited his father's stupidity
@bigivel4 жыл бұрын
@@RacinZilla003 After 1 year. But Mace Tyrell is not stupid, just like is father wasn't. Not only he is not used as comedic relief, like in the series, but people think bad of him when in fact he is in the right, and gets everything that he wants. People talk that Randyl Tarly won against Robert Baratheon, but with whom? Randyl Tarly was the Tyrel forces vanguard(the same has Roose Bolton in the Green Fork, and the GreatJon in Robb main force), and was sent ther by Mace and with his forces(yep, it wasn't just Tarly forces. Also people insult Mace for his decision in the siege in Stormland, but with the situation of the war, it was the best decision made in the entire war. And the reason why his family is currently the most powerful family in the realm. Also note that he was able to put his daughter in the throne(and no it wasn't Queen of Thornes nor Loras decision to fight for Renly and later ally with the Lannisters), got to become the hand of the king and get 2 of his people in Great Counsil.
@RacinZilla0034 жыл бұрын
@@bigivel Emperor Nero and Caligula were Geniuses by that logic!
@joesoly12346 жыл бұрын
My favourite change is Arya serving Tywin instead of Roose Bolton. I love the scenes between them, the acting is superb and the writing is great. Those are the scenes i revisit the most by far.
@goneyesterday3776 жыл бұрын
Those scenes are completely contradictory of Tywin's character and remove the necessary set up for Roose who is an incredibly important character. They're not something the "show did better than the books" just because they're liked. The scenes are fun, that's it. Imagine classist Tywin actually bantering with a child and or comparing her, a peasant as he would believe, to his highborn daughter. Ridiculous.
@wreynolds19956 жыл бұрын
It is made very explicit in the show that Tywin is aware that Arya is not a peasant. "Low born girls say 'm'lord'." There's also the fact that she's very obviously lying whenever he questions her on her background: the first time she introduces herself she names a house but doesn't know its heraldry, her father was apparently a very well educated blacksmith, and she herself can read and speak better than some of his own advisors. You could say "well, if he knows she's lying, why does he put up with her?", but the answer is obvious: she's just a little girl, it's hardly likely to be worth his time. I'm not saying it's necessarily better than the books - I agree that the show could have done a much better job of introducing Roose Bolton than it did - but am merely responding to your argument as stated.
@goneyesterday3776 жыл бұрын
@@wreynolds1995 I'm aware that Tywin was aware of Arya's actual station to an extent, which makes her eventual escape even sillier as prevention measures should have been took.
@wreynolds19956 жыл бұрын
Have you stopped to consider how ridiculous that sounds? Preventative measures need to be taken so that some unknown girl with no power or authority doesn't "escape" (nevermind the question of what her destination would be; "escape" is not helpful unless you have somewhere worth going)? Tywin was the primary reason she was still alive. When he left her there, with the Mountain in charge, he had every reason to believe that she would be dead within the month, one way or another; and that didn't matter, because he had no reason to believe that she was important.
@goneyesterday3776 жыл бұрын
@@wreynolds1995 As a person currently fighting a campaign against the North, taking a highborn girl hostage and from that point trying to discern who's family she's from, could have been a useful tool in quelling some forces/some plot or the other. I believe that's what Tywin would have done had the interactions occured on page.
@jenniferbrewer53706 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Viserys was much better in the show than the books. Harry Lloyd is brilliant.
@jam_jor6 жыл бұрын
Dude, Ramsay’s intro in the books was beautiful. It would’ve added a whole new level to his and Theon’s relationship if they included this. It would’ve been so awesome
@LonleyBoy11056 жыл бұрын
The Hand of King's pin is a change that I like! That necklace in the books is ridiculous.
@NYCfrankie4 жыл бұрын
They have both in the books
@Kopfschuss876 жыл бұрын
Theon: Ser Rodrik had you five to one. Ramsay: Aye, but he thought us friends. A common mistake... i just love that in general i love the whole introduction of Ramsay in the books
@RacinZilla0035 жыл бұрын
Everyone in the comments has mentioned Arya and Tywin to which I'd like to add: Ned's beheading. This scene is fantastic through the eyes of Arya, but absolutely phenomenal in the show. GRRM mentioned the grace note of having Ned himself notice Arya by the feet of Baelor and, after passing Yoren, yells, "Baelor!" so that Yoren could rescue Arya. This is absent from the books and the scene plays out as a coincidence as oppose to Ned actively attempting to save his daughters. It was a wonderful addition to an already powerful scene. And Ned mouthing, "I kept my promise," was icing. It showed how forward thinking DnD were and the improvements they made upon the source material before Season 5 :P
@arno20836 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the show were all the extra Tywin scenes, especially the Tywin and Arya scenes.
@s.w.d40106 жыл бұрын
I just started A Feast for Crows. However, I hate when non-book readers label book readers as “book snobs.” Book readers understand that changes have to be made. The changes aren’t the problem, it’s the show writing that has turned to shit. I love how the show portrays Ned’s death. I love how the show made Joffrey a bigger villain rather than a very minor character like he is in the books. That made the purple wedding so much more special. I fell in love with the writing and the complex characters on the show but seasons 5-7 were so disappointing and so badly written, I can no longer call myself a fan. But HBO’s failure made me want to read the books and I love them!!
@kobby9996 жыл бұрын
I love AFFC
@s.w.d40106 жыл бұрын
Kobby I’m loving it! I love reading Cersei’s chapters.
@akilmanwaring77676 жыл бұрын
AFFC was my fave as well
@atro-city6 жыл бұрын
Call them a show pleb if they call you a book snob.
@corruptangel67936 жыл бұрын
I didn't like the shows portayal of Joffery. In the books he was a little shit but it was obvious that his nature came from being an entitled prince and Cerci endlessly doting on him. It made his fate more sad as he was still young and could be saved. In fact, Tywin was going to do so by sending him away from the capitol. This made his death a tragedy and Joffery himself more of a victim of his upbringing rather then the monster the show made him who noone could possibly shed a tear over. Don't get me wrong, each version has its merits and neither is necessarily worse. One is more tragic while the other is more satisfying. I just personally prefered the book's version
@ThatsMrFrank6 жыл бұрын
I think Renly's look is better in the books. Being clean shaven suits his sort of upper class lack of real earthy humanity, and the crown having Tyrell imagery in it really symbolises him as a Tyrell puppet
@F5Metal6 жыл бұрын
The guy who played Viserys would have been a better Joker than Leto.
@reaver14146 жыл бұрын
I agree about the Robb scene because he is one of my favorite characters in the books and the emotion in the scene is even more meaningful when you remember that he is only like 15 in the books
@DanzieReviews6 жыл бұрын
Me: "Danzie, you need to stick to your thursday deadline! No messing around with extra stuff in editing!" Also me: **Animates Ramsay in a Pikachu hat.**
@jaybirdjetwings75166 жыл бұрын
Hey danzie wht exactly is stannis your favorite character?
@TheMan-je5xq6 жыл бұрын
Something I thought was great in season 1 was they show Ned and Jaime fight instead of Ned fall off his horse and break his leg
@CraigKostelecky6 жыл бұрын
My favorite changes were with Arya while she was at Harrenhal. The scenes with her and Tywin were simply amazing and would not have worked at all if she was with Roose. Secondly, the way in which Jaqen makes his kills are overly explained in the books (including Arya helping out for the escape. In the show, it's pure mystery that is better left unexplained. You are in awe of this magical figure with oozing charm and charisma. The way he sighs just before he's asked to kill Amory Lorch with no time to plan it, and then immediately seeing him pull it off without getting caught was perfect.
@Karlonstark6 жыл бұрын
The books introduction of Ramsay was way better. The scene where he reveals who he is soooooo fucking good.
@AS-fi7hc6 жыл бұрын
While Renly’s crow does look better in the show the original did actually have some significance. The fact that the crown had roses from his wife’s house as well a stag is actually a pretty controversial statement for the setting. At the beginning of the first book characters are kind of outraged by Joffrey’s arms (I mean like coat of arms) showing a lion and stag. They think it’s presumptuous and shows Cersei is power hungry because her house is symbolically marked as equal to her husbands. Renly’s crown shows just how powerful and important the Tyrells are to his campaign and he’s not afraid to make a statement. So while the show’s is more aesthetically appeasing, the book’s has a deeper meaning.
@therandytomato56796 жыл бұрын
1) First season was _amazing_ 2) Cutting through some issues with Dany's storyline (not brilliantly... but still!) 3) Moon door, totally agree - excellent 4) Certain actors arguably elevating their characters (Cersei, Osha jump to mind, but far from the only ones) 5) Looks like they're actually going to get to the end of the story sometime in the next decade
@oskthebold13376 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for giving Renly’s beard the appreciation it deserves!
@thomaslevy72496 жыл бұрын
I loved the Tywin & Arya scenes from season 2.
@maggyfrog6 жыл бұрын
personally, i think grrm made daario look the way he did in the books to speak about dany's choices regarding men. like, daario looks and dresses and acts outrageously, and dany's interest is somehow stoked by that. the looks and personality of daario in the books are completely on purpose and i think most readers MISS the point of it. this entire personality quirk of dany is completely lost in the show when they decided to cast typical handsome men to play daario. also, all of daario's idiosyncrasies disappeared in the show, like book daario and show daario are completely different characters. i don't count this as an improvement by the show but an outright book-to-screen misrepresentation. the book had a weirdo and the show had a dashing daredevil. this is why show daario had nothing to offer dany in the end in terms of progressing dany's story arc. book daario could have all sorts of hidden agenda.
@jennbeebs82206 жыл бұрын
agree with you -- Viserys and Oberon were amazing changes
@jonconnington57846 жыл бұрын
Just because Ramsey’s story line is more complicated in the books doesn’t mean it’s worse. I like how his character is more mysterious, and less like the joker in the books.
@Swinburnean6 жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree, leaving Ramsey off season two is just another example of D&D being allergic to set-up, theming and foreshadowing.
@gas4675 жыл бұрын
I say the best was Cersei and Robert talking after Ned leaves. Hands down the best scene in season 1 and my personal fav. It makes Robert seem compitenent but broken man
@afifmajid87546 жыл бұрын
Wow look at that, nothing from beyond season 4, makes total sense. Also, totally unrelated, but I actually think the Red Wedding scene could have been done a bit better in hindsight. I saw the show before the books, so I was hooked back then too, and maybe I have just seen that episode too many damn times to the point where I know it by heart, but the books really did it so much better. From Greywind being locked up because of an altercation at the drawbridge, to the deaths of Robb's guards, especially Dacey who was the one to have the first realization of betrayal, running to the door but then the Freys come in and bash her head in, SmallJon and Flint also dying heroic deaths. Its just so surreal and hopeless and unfair, especially unfair. i dunno, I was never a big of horror, in written or visual medium, but that Dacey death seemed so grippingly helpless that it transported me inside those few lines
@afifmajid87546 жыл бұрын
yup, and the good freys too, roslyn crying, olyvar and perwyn(i think i got that right) missing from the feast
@christopherbarber52836 жыл бұрын
who needs darkstar when you have a relationship w missandei and greyworm? ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@MehmedPasa906 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything except the part about Ramsay. Yes, the way Ramsay is introduced in the books is confusing at first for most readers, but it's those aha-moments which make the books so great for me, which also encourages reading the books more than once. Of course, things needed to be dumbed down a bit in the show, because of the wider audience it's aimed at.
@katherineseward72875 жыл бұрын
Caityln's the reason everything went sideways forcing Robb Stark to lose his innocence. Of course she was crying!
@Spongebrain976 жыл бұрын
I think robb is more interesting in the show and I like tyrion and shaes relationship and even the change to where she actually loves him as opposed to the books
@jackcoogan3106 жыл бұрын
Wow I just found your channel in one of those KZbin times where they randomly throw someone into your newsfeed, but wow I like this! Great cadence, well paced video, not too flashy, and just talking about Thrones for 10 minutes. Well done, I’ll be back!
@girlnettles6 жыл бұрын
10:13 I always cry too!!!! Robb was my favorite character!!!
@sirensong17946 жыл бұрын
One minor change I liked is how the Stark children look. In the books, all of them except for Arya and Jon are red heads like their mother. 1, I find it pretty surprising that 4 out of 5 of the children managed to get this, since red hair is extremely rare. They also look more related in the show. But my main reason for liking it is because of Sansa. Think about it, out of all her siblings, Sansa is the most “un-Stark”. Her entire arc is about her being separated from her family and learning to be the political player in opposition to the more honor bound Stark ways. Having her be the only red head makes her look more like an outsider, not just among her siblings, but among most of the north as well. I just always felt a takeaway from having Arya be the odd one out, when it’s so much more fitting thematically for it to be Sansa.
@alexanderfridayeagle91462 жыл бұрын
Regarding the way Ramsay's storyline was developed, I liked that in the book George used as an opportunity to showcase and develop the political situation in the north as well as the characters. He doesn't fucus on just these two characters he takes in account the context in which they act, he is showing us the bigger picture. The show being the show, with all the financial and time restraints that entails, tends to isolate characters and their actions from the bigger picture and the world around them. It focuses much more on individual characters. Getting to this point and having seen only the show I remember not even understanding, who are the Boltons, what is a bannerman, and not even thinking what about the other noble houses of the north? The show made it seem that the north is just Winterfell. Like only the Starks are there and they have some landless allies, military minions, or warlords? Only after reading the books I understood how well structed and well acounted for was the world and how every action meant something and instead of being the isolated storyline of a character it also tore at this fine political web that Martin has woven.
@DarthNoox6 жыл бұрын
I always see the show and the books as parallel universes, some vents happened in both of the universes, other things happened differently or didn't happen at all, and other things happened at other times.
@somegenerichandle6 жыл бұрын
I liked that they simplified Shae's positions in kings landing. She's at Chataya's, then lolli's maid, and then Sansa. Glad they skipped that.
@Mitchmeow6 жыл бұрын
Cool video! Yes I did pause at that moment, and I have no regrets. I like show Ramsay's character more than book Ramsay, mostly because show Ramsay is smarter and (in my opinion) seems more dangerous. Book Ramsay is a brute who does some truly horrific things, but he's a hammer where show Ramsay is a scalpel (or perhaps a flaying knife?) No cunning, no real personality beyond base cruelty. In that way I suppose show Ramsay is kind of a combination of book Ramsay and Roose Bolton So I guess the show made Ramsay better at the expense of Roose since it means we miss out on a lot of his best scenes (like when Ramsay says he wants to make Lady Dustin into boots and Roose chides him because human skin would make terrible boots.) You make good points and I dig your style. Liked and subbed!
@TheMan-je5xq4 жыл бұрын
A aesthetic change I noticed was Tywin didn’t have a shaved head which is fine but they should’ve made a reference to it at some point. Such as one of his children pointing out that he let his hair grow out thereby suggesting he had been shaving his head for a long time previously. Me and friend argued about Tyrion’s scar not being nasty enough but I’m fine with it because they did reference that by Cersei saying it’s not as bad as she heard and really the severity of a facial scar can easily be exaggerated
@jaythomas86166 жыл бұрын
GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN DANZIE! I don't know about everyone else, but at least one fan has really missed seeing your (mostly) objective views on the series (looking at you Baratheon love) and it just a pleasure to see you back! If you're looking for an idea for a video, which you may not, I've got one! I'd like a real break-down of the Season 7 scene where Lord Baelish dies. For content to cover, you've got plenty but mostly I'd like to see your opinion of GoT idea of a 'good death' to their best character (imo). Regardless! Great to see you back! Still waiting for that Westeros Brawls between Bronn of the Blackwater and Daario Naharis!
@elizabethschafer2616 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% with your point about Ramsay. The secret identity plot device gets so old in the books and makes the plot needlessly convoluted. You just have to look at all the "Is character ABC actually character XYZ" theories out there. A lot like Howland Reed being the High Sparrow are pretty crazy, but you can't really blame people for coming up with this stuff when disguises are so rampant in the books.
@sebastianzanzinger6 жыл бұрын
Conlangs! High Valyrian and Dothraki :) my personal favorite improvements :)
@carlhiller96594 жыл бұрын
Charles Dance as Tywin Made his character much more then just the evil, mean dad.
@sophiawilson86966 жыл бұрын
I have many problems with the show against books but they did SOME things rights (They aged up the Characters)
@Joggi984 жыл бұрын
1. Tywin 2. Oberyn 3. Olenna 4. Hound and Arya roadtrip 5. not having Tyrion be good at acrobatics those would be mine
@ricoco78914 жыл бұрын
Something from the show I genuinely prefer to the books is Tyrion's trial. Don't get me wrong, the book version is great as well, but the show expanded on the whole ordeal, and Peter's performance was absolutely stellar. The show really brought that scene to life
@namaminn6 жыл бұрын
i'm really happy that you are back.
@girlnettles6 жыл бұрын
7:35 I DEFINITELY agree that the two Reeks and Ramsey swap was complex and needless. But, I think GRRM wanted to show just how ruthless Ramsey was. He was willing to kill his "best friend," OG Reek.
@robbieshand61396 жыл бұрын
Talisa is a much better character than Jayne Westerling and her death at the red wedding, with Robb Stark cradling her, is incredibly impactful. Plus the book only alludes to the massacre at Hardhome, whereas the show... you know the rest.
@DanzieReviews6 жыл бұрын
I think I am in the minority of not liking Hardhome on the show. The plot holes bothered me too much and the set up for them being there in the first place felt forced and unnatural. I think Hardhome works better as this scary place that you don't know much about, because it's more horrifying to fill in the blanks yourself. As for Talisa and Jayne, I dislike both of them... but for different reasons. Talisa is too anachronistic, and Jayne just isn't interesting enough so far. But as with everything, most of this stuff comes down to subjective taste. The best thing about media is that we're all allowed to enjoy or not enjoy whatever we want. I think we all win when we discuss this stuff because it improves the way we look at and consume media. :) Anyway, sorry I went off on a tangent there. It's 3am and I can't sleep. :P
@robbieshand61396 жыл бұрын
@@DanzieReviews - "I think I am in the minority of not liking Hardhome on the show." - I think you might be right! "I think Hardhome works better as this scary place that you don't know much about, because it's more horrifying to fill in the blanks yourself." - For the books, yes I can accept that. For the show, completely disagree! It's a scene that plays to the show's strengths, namely spectacle. In this instance a picture is literally worth a thousand words. Watching the army of the dead *pour* over the side of a hill is a glorious and horrifying image, something that simply wouldn't have as much impact from a written description. It's an image that immediately communicates how overwhelming the army of the dead is and how hopeless the heroes' struggle seems to be - not just empty spectacle, but visual storytelling done right. "But as with everything, most of this stuff comes down to subjective taste." - Yes, true but mine is correct ;-) "Anyway, sorry I went off on a tangent there." - No worries, thanks for responding. "It's 3am and I can't sleep" - I find whisky helps with that.
@DanzieReviews6 жыл бұрын
No whiskey, sadly. Just Coke Zero and Overwatch. XD
@27danjel5 жыл бұрын
I found Oberyn very disappointing in the TV show. In the books, he and Davos are my favourite characters
@omega3anubis6 жыл бұрын
Enjoying the video and that your back danzie. One thing about the new format though, your head seems distractingly low with all the dead space above it. Keep up the new stuff though :D
@corneliaechzeller80426 жыл бұрын
Great video. I agree with all the points you made. Let me add two things: 1.: I like the main characters in the show are a few years older than in the books. It would have come out pretty ridiculous letting a 14 year old boy lead an army into war, or a 13 year old girl let do all these things Daenerys did. It would have destroyed the whole story. 2.: The White Walkers. They are more or less invisible in the books and we don't get the full menace ot the Others. And they have no leader: the Night's King in the books is a total different character and has nothing to do with the story so far. In the show we saw the white walkers, we saw the wights, we saw the Night King and the powerful abilities he has. We saw the Army of the Dead growing bigger and bigger from season to season and we could realize the full extent of the horror. I n my opinion Hardhome was one of the best episodes the show ever did.
@ShanghaiRooster6 жыл бұрын
Bringing the Dothraki and Valyrian languages to life - something perhaps unfeasible for the books - was awesome.
@keerthanatharal75725 жыл бұрын
Catelyn talking about Jon Snow was also something the show did brilliantly.
@Hopper896 жыл бұрын
One word: Hardhome.
@neoartyum98676 жыл бұрын
the redweding in show was better and more horrifying that the book
@Ruffeep6 жыл бұрын
Bullshit reading the direct thoughts of Catelyn going mad with grief is goddamn horrifying and nothing in the scene in the show comes close.
@TotalTech2.6 жыл бұрын
I am reading through the books right now. And while I do enjoy them there are some things the show did WAY better
@SE_Lin6 жыл бұрын
Nothing at all is done better, some changes are made that aren't at all bad, but nothing is made better by the show in my eyes. Arya serving Tywin instead of Roose Bolton is only a good change because Charles Dance is a god tier actor that deserved to be utilized more. Her serving Roose would have been good too there would have been similar tension in the interactions and especially since Michael McElhatton is also a great actor with a powerful presence on screen.
@hircineshunter58965 жыл бұрын
👍 for show Viserys love. "Naereeeee!!!"
@girlnettles6 жыл бұрын
I liked the change that Sansa married Ramsey instead of Jeyne Poole
@aureum74792 жыл бұрын
IMO The Hound and Arya’s dynamic in the Show is a lot better than the books. The chemistry between actors is really enjoyable to watch and a more dynamic duo. In the Books Arya just ditches Sandor as he is injured from the fight at the crossroads in, Just a couple of Poxy foot soldiers for the Lannisters. Polliver, The Tickler and a squire. The Hound and Brienne fight is taken out of the show.
@richardetter72766 жыл бұрын
I loved Tywin in the show
@JasperLane6 жыл бұрын
Ah as fun as it is to flog the show I do think its important to acknowledged the show for doing something better that isnt related to cgi or special effects. I wish you put Tywin and Arya's scenes on this list, they are some of my favorite scenes in the show but I can understand why you skipped over them.
@thatgermanguy70266 жыл бұрын
Yaaay! I was waiting for this!
@qebm6 жыл бұрын
I am very glad I started reading the books after watching Season 3. Daenerys' "language gambit" was just too powerful on screen!
@barkley82856 жыл бұрын
1. Armor 2. Banners 3. Tyrion farewell with Jaime/tywin 4. Robb Stark 5. Arya with tywin instead of roose Season 1-4 are amazing, 5-7 are terrible. They ruined everything that made the show great but it still has good moments... sadly I can never forgive them for killing my king the mannis.
@Ruffeep6 жыл бұрын
Hey you wanna ellaborate on point 3? I thought the books did infinately better job because the show cut out Tysha, which was a central part of Tyrion's motive. It also had a lasting effect on him etc.
@nathanieldouglas85186 жыл бұрын
Harry Loyds reading of the book A knight of the Seven kingdoms is amazing!
@bruceh16605 жыл бұрын
Also Cersei and Roberts discussion about their marriage
@thierrydubuc94906 жыл бұрын
So in short, no POV restrictions allow more character development for supporting characters, not to mention countless extra scenes, some stories can be simplified without threatening the integrity of the plot, some of the actors, like the ones for oberyn and viserys, made the characters even better than their book counterparts, and the looks of people and props are sometimes better looking than what they are described in the books. I think we can all agree on that, also, season 1-4 were great, the show started turning to shit the moment they ran out of source material. So in the end, I don't think we complain much because the show is unfaithful (sometimes for the worst, or like here, for the best), but because the quality of writing dropped as soon as they went their own way. The death of Doran was dumb and laughable, regardless of what happens in the books. The time travel in season 7 made no sense for anyone, regardless of whether you read the books or not. And Arya being invincible in Braavos, Ramsay destroying Stannis with 20 good men, Littlefinger giving Sansa to Ramsay, there are just so many inconsistencies now, so yeah, i'm sticking to season 1-4. No lady stoneheart? I can live with that. Brienne vs the hound? Awesome, bring it on!
@goneyesterday3776 жыл бұрын
Plenty of supporting characters get development or have better character in the books as well, so that's not the truth. Lack of PoV structure giving us more doesn't=better and even if it does give use something good, doesn't mean there's not something equivalent in book. Also, everything about Viserys people claim to only feel in show, was present in the books. His final in book lines make me want to tear up every time, prefer it to the show delivery (which is great though).
@MrFirextinguisher4 жыл бұрын
There’s only two good things the tv show did and I would argue the first was GRRM: “chaos is a ladder” and “I’m going to eat every chicken in this room”
@fedemona16 жыл бұрын
Imo Tyrion's story in the books slowly became so uninteresting since he left King's landing. I remember reading Sansa's chapter and be like "omg just... let's finish this part asap" in the last book it was the same for Tyrion xD
@joowonmo68004 жыл бұрын
Show better than the book. 1. Oberyn Martell 2. Red Wedding scene 3. Tywin and Arya scene 4. Jon Snow action scene in battle of castle black 5. Eddard stark
@ramonserna80896 жыл бұрын
I think the first two seasons are superior to the book, while season 3 & 4 are hit and miss and then is all downhill. My favorite changes are: 1. Cercei. In the books she is a cold bitch, but in the show I found myself rooting for her from time to time and she really showed some humanity. 2. Tywin and Aria scenes. 3. Robb Stark. In the books I didn't care a lot for him he was just Ned's son, while in the show he looked more human and real so the Red Wedding was more gut wrenching. And of course all you said except Ramsay, because I like complicated plots but it could be just me.
@s.w.d40106 жыл бұрын
I think the show got Cersei’s character wrong. Cersei is tormented by Maggie the Frog’s prophecy. She’s does whatever she can to avoid her fate but once she realizes that she can’t escape fate it drives her more insane (in the books). In the show she is written like an evil Disney character that is evil just to be evil. My prime example is in season 6 when the writer have Cersei say “I do bad things because they feel good.” Which is a huge disservice to her source material.
@ramonserna80896 жыл бұрын
I should clarify I meant season 1-4 Cercei. I stopped watching after season 5. It was too painful.
@jimbofromfrance48014 жыл бұрын
I hate Renly in the show. Also, I feel like HBO destroyed a lot of characters by flanderization. All of the Tyrells(Olenna was great btw but still), The Boltons, The Greyjoys, Areo, all of Dorne, Tyrion in later seasons, Cersei in later seasons(etc.)
@JayMorayEel6 жыл бұрын
Honestly I hope GRRM can allow more adaptations in different mediums. I love to see literature adapted multiple times and it'd be great to see more styles. Personally I'd love an animated series akin to star wars's animated spinoffs.
@minatodroger78905 жыл бұрын
Season was the best season to this date but so true show Oberyn was great as was Visearys. Hell Show Varys made me like the character even more.
@MrAllallalla6 жыл бұрын
Yes a viserys fan! I loved every single scene with him. He was funny and the right amount of crazy and kinda hot??
@alicecheshire53126 жыл бұрын
Danzi, i literally got my renly crown at spirit, if i can find it or another ill send you it
@asoiaf.got.30483 жыл бұрын
The story in the books is way better the only things better in the show are maybe the sigils or crowns or i dont know it has like 10 other plot lines that are crazy in the books that arent in the shows
@salomon3805 жыл бұрын
I feel the same for Joffrey that you feel on Viserys!
@MrFirextinguisher6 жыл бұрын
I was right with you until you expressed your opinion of liking the simple version of Ramsey. But in my eyes it feels like d&d didn’t get that reek was Ramsey and they threw together that Ramsey saving him scene to save face. I’m kind of a stickler for d&d tho
@kuroshthegreat80736 жыл бұрын
far i just wish they hired someone who actually knew how armor works to design the shows armor.
@lizsmith98736 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people complain that the series started to go off the rails after Season 4. The books started going of the rails with AFFC and ADWD. They are the poorest books storywise. Hardly anything happens in them to advance the plot. The entire scope of AFFC and ADWD could be condensed down to a short novel and we wouldn't lose anything important plotwise. The show's writers did their best but let's face it they really didn't have much to adapt and then they ran out of even what there was available. They were forced to use what they had which is/was the synopsis Martin gave them. And they have actually done a pretty good job on the whole. Sure some things on the show were not that great (cough Dorne cough) but some things have been great. What has to be faced is that the show had no choice but to forge ahead. The yough actors in the show were not going to stop growing up so that Martin could finish the books, production companies were not going to put their livelihoods on standby and location filming was not going to grind to a halt either. The show is IMO one of the best things on TV and something that has caught the imagination of millions. What has to be acknowledged is a TV show is not a book series, it is adapted and when you adapt something it is changed. That is literally the meaning of Adapted.
@joshblair37456 жыл бұрын
Liz Smith Affc and Adwd are awesome books.
@konradvonschnitzeldorf65066 жыл бұрын
Watch season 5 - 7 again. They are a Middlefinger to logic and inteligence.
@radu00116 жыл бұрын
nice video It made me remember the good ol days of the show :')
@dark3rthanshadows5 жыл бұрын
this is more like things i lthink look cooler in the show lol
@hekate55616 жыл бұрын
I like the scenes between Tywin and Arya in the show.
@diegominero296 жыл бұрын
I started watching the show before reading the books (the four first seasons) and LOVED it!! So then I went to read the books... I really admire the writing and love how inmersive the books are... BUT there was too much rape and cruelty... the series had pointless sex scenes and violence, but the books had rape and detailed cruelty all the time, I just couldn't stand it and I only read books 1 and 2, so i just went on with the show... which losed a lot of dramatic-story quality last season :/
@TheLuigiBrother776 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree with number 2, I think detail like that is awesome, the more the better lol, complicated stuff is awesome!
@azarishere64426 жыл бұрын
When i saw the title i expected this to be some show fan bullshit but this is actualy good
@henriquebaratheon32596 жыл бұрын
Wrong.
@elvin41766 жыл бұрын
Lmao you have been saying that word for at least two years now
@sete55106 жыл бұрын
They also do a better job at characters deaths. I mean... they re more dramatic. For exemple Ygritte s death or the talk before Tywin s.
@randyortonsbulge6 жыл бұрын
Whoa it back to normal, wtf youtube, I rewound even now it's shit again.
@keeganollerhead20756 жыл бұрын
gotta fix that camera angle
@mike.n.n.77236 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the character images from around 2:50 plssss
@thelastgreyjoy85556 жыл бұрын
Hey danzie for Westeros brawls could you make two videos on Randyll Tarly vs Yohn Royce and Lyn Corbray vs Loras Tyrell
@treefiddy7274 жыл бұрын
I liked show Roose better than book Roose. Show Roose was more a Northern Tywin. Book Roose was a bit too over the top from his pink and black outifts to his creepy mannerisms. Also the pirate guy in the last book, his name escapes me atm
@INTELECT19846 жыл бұрын
back when the show was good when has it not been good?
@YoYo-wo3lm6 жыл бұрын
Intellecter 818 umm season 7 obviously
@INTELECT19846 жыл бұрын
Yo Yo if you disliked season 7 cool you’re hip but it was a awesome season with a lot of great moments not the worst season not the best season of got but still good and up to par with what has been building up
@INTELECT19846 жыл бұрын
Frank Castle you’re gonna sit there with a straight face and say battle of the bastards is a bad episode in a bad season then you’re delusional if you didn’t like those seasons as much good for you i did and so did most people seeing how it’s the highest rated show and viewed lol
@YoYo-wo3lm6 жыл бұрын
Intellecter 818 is it weird you opinions make me mad?
@YoYo-wo3lm6 жыл бұрын
Frank Castle I love how that episode went exactly how everyone thought it would