Top 5 Underrated Players in Blood Bowl 2020 - Top 5 Friday (Bonehead Podcast)

[@robgreen3997]

Hey Ben, nice vid, how about top 5 inducements as a slightly different view of blood bowl?

[@wexbon33]

As a new Halfling coach and new to BB, I agree the Hefty is underrated. A lot of folks really don't like the Hefty. I see good stuff for my Hefty when we can play tabletop again and I join a league or start one.

[@hampuskullberg9932]

Hey Ben! Great stuff here! Havn't ever thought about the assassin as a catcher but it makes perfect sence! And thanks for the creed, I do think the fungus flingers are really under costed and even more important; they are gonna be super fun to play! :D

[@kinerockyjazz]

Great vid. Top 5 Friday idea: top 5 duos, or positional pairings. Pieces which on their own are kind of "meh" but with their "buddy" piece are able to steamroll.

[@davinperry5648]

I prefer skeletons to zombies on my starting undead roster. They can pass the ball if necessary, reposition better, work as safeties, and you may get zombies for free during the game. Despite having a lower AV my experience is that both are as likely to remain in play overall due to thick skull. I also think inducements would be an interesting next topic for Top Five or Theory Thursday. Is Josef Bugman better than a Wandering Apothecary? When is a Biased Refee better than a Bribe? Do you hire cheerleaders and assistant coaches or only get temps? Do you wonder whether a weather mage is worth it? For people that want to use some of the old rules what if you pay 50K to pick which type of 'special ball' is used for one drive and 150K to pick which pitch you use?

[@BoneheadPodcast]

Hey Davin! Skeletons definitely have the edge now on the Zombles! And inducements is a superrrb idea for TT/T5F! On the list! Thank you!

[@peter-d9f3l]

Another advantage of the fungus flinga over the bomma is Side Step. You can leave the FF in the back corner (with Hail Mary Pass) without worrying about them being crowd-surfed unless your opponent commits three players.

[@BoneheadPodcast]

Genius! Hadn't even considered that, Peter!

[@MrGhosta5]

Dark elf assassin with tackle is really good. Any piece that tries to move past has to make a dodge without being able to reroll and if they do manage to dodge you can just shaddow back next to them so that they have to make another dodge without reroll.

[@BoneheadPodcast]

Oh that's brilliant! 😁

[@ledeasoakenbough]

My Dark Elf Assassin was my catcher (in move 6 days) for all the reasons you mentioned. Free 1 in 6 chance to break armor was just bonus.

[@deckerCKY]

Assassins gaining mv7 while getting cheaper was a huge buff. They're only underrated because they used to be mv6 and 5k more expensive.

[@MangoFandangoBB]

Nice vid as always! How about a Top 5 teams for beginners, as the hobby can be somewhat daunting to new coaches :)

[@ogreman2229]

Dwarves. I recommend dwarves to any new player. No complex strategy, high armor, block is an easy skill to understand. Just cage and bash. 1 die or even disadvantaged blocks aren’t as costly with block. They forgive poor decisions the most.

[@MangoFandangoBB]

@@ogreman2229 Surprisingly, I think Dwarfs aren't ideal for beginners. The concept of caging sounds easy, but executing it turn after turn is an exercise in patience and forward-thinking. Not a trait of new coaches. Dwarfs are fantastic for experienced coaches, and that's why I dislike them with a passion. The copious amount of block and tackle makes them very forgiving, and for an experienced coach that's just win-win. Not good.

[@ogreman2229]

@@MangoFandangoBB I can understand your logic, I personally played dwarfs to begin with and found them really comfortable. Maybe it is just a personal thing though. There’s definitely a reason orcs and humans are in the starter sets. They are certainly good options for new players too. I just know you don’t want teams with difficult skills to understand and tend to think bash teams are simpler for new players than dodgy ones.

[@brianriley2197]

How about Lizardmen? I started on them cause I think they look the coolest, but they’re very fun to play, and way more flexible than dwarves. They’re tough and bashy, but also fast and have dodgy runners. You can cage up your saurus like dwarves. You can screen and make a running play with skinks like a human team. With a few level ups you can build a passing game with your skinks. And they don’t start with many complicated or confusing skills.

[@mattellis3297]

Who would of thought earl Thomas with a butcher knife would make a great safety! Lol gotta love blood bowl

[@jaredlucev2705]

Assassins are also Stab without secret weapon, which is just yummy. And with multiblock on stab against a low armor team they become the best blitzers imaginable.

[@bigrips7734]

Using assassin as a catcher is a cool idea

[@BoneheadPodcast]

It’s a great way to add utility! Stab the light stuff, otherwise just run around at MA7 with AG2+ 😏

[@hamfastgamwich]

In our current league, my DE Assassin has been mvp quite a bit. the Stab blitz on the ball carrier, especially when they are blodgers, cannot be understated

[@gergotothmihaly2307]

tiny Drew Brees made me laugh :D

[@hluotepicfail9032]

Top 5 underrated teams please

[@Bar0ns_Den]

I'm so pleased the Hefty and the Assassin made the cut! Although I still believe Vampires are misunderstood!

[@DragonMagi]

My orc lineman on my renegade team somehow manages to end up being the ball carrier in almost every game.

[@andrewjohnsen6315]

Whoo I love the hefty. One as a reroll caddy and another to live my dreams of passing like a fat elf.

[@edwardfranklin4467]

Gotta say surprised at the lack of gnoblars. There fast as hell, can be thrown AND punted. They don't count for TV giving you more inducement money for Fungus and Dribblesnout. and there fast and get primary agility.

[@whaladona]

Agree with the flinga. Putting two in the roster and keeping one on is a counter that threatens cages everywhere.

[@ryangriffiths5179]

Hey Ben, I could not find a playlist for Star player spotlights. Where are they hiding?

[@roguesquadrontrainee5133]

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[@ryangriffiths5179]

@@roguesquadrontrainee5133 they visable now. I may have been Blind earlier and missed them

[@senyormort]

Well assassins used to have movement six, so many just ignored it and bought another linemen. This buf is interesting

[@Demolitiondude]

YES! FINALLY! *spikes the ball*

[@locke5954]

15:22 "...Drew BRIEs..."?

[@georgewilson8025]

Wood elf lineman - has the exact same statline of a DE runner - eg woodelf linemen could be considered positional in any other team - with relevant skills

[@dianatoboso8311]

Will we Have a "top 5 midrange teams"? I Can think of at least 5, so...

[@OmegaDestroyer99]

People think Orc Blitzrers are underrated? That's hard to believe. They are fantastic players.

[@deckerCKY]

Rat ogres and minotaurs are players that need to be active to be effective, which exacerbated their lack of block and loner. Trolls are passive players - they position guard and don't cause turnovers. Adding vomit gives them an offensive tool with zero turnover risk. The fact that they're the cheapest big guys in the game while accomplishing that is a homerun. Love trolls.

[@Ryan-xh5cb]

Did I miss where he talked about the fanlist top 5?

[@BoneheadPodcast]

Hey Ryan! The fanlist was so close to mine I rolled it in this time! Don't worry - it'll be back this Friday!!

[@allenbenningfield3865]

Putting together halflings right now. I love the new-ish GW models. They are just fun looking.

[@comradechris7975]

If you want to make people upset here's a fun little list 2 treeman 9 Halflings Star tree player Halfling Master Chef buy some re-rolls Watch people cry

[@allenbenningfield3865]

@@comradechris7975 I’m all about running Karla and/or Zug with halflings. So good. Karla just does whatever you need her to do. Usually a blitzer or ball handler though. Zug is fun. No frills, all kills.

[@comradechris7975]

@@allenbenningfield3865 My brother ran that list in a local league and won 5 out of 7 games, tree star player with Mighty Blow +2 is gross

[@allenbenningfield3865]

@@comradechris7975 Truth!

[@georgewilson8025]

Listening to the assassin - yhyh really good - stab on the wardancer - no no god no please no not my precious 125k piece with i will probably never be able to afford again

[@DarkShnoon]

Mutated goats ...mean beastmen are so underrated too

[@Berry-gs4xr]

before i watch this video my personal bet: The human Lineman and many stunties^^

[@deckerCKY]

I would have voted human lineman over orc lineman. Movement 6 means they're so much more flexible than movement 5, and armour 8 is enough.

[@berry8932]

@@deckerCKY jeah, but i guess that's the point. An orc is as much mobile as a halfling, or a gnobblar. The human is standard and Basic in every point. The orc changed mobility dir tankyness. Is this Bad? No! He can stay on the line longer and survives more battles. That's actually realy good for a positional, which is placed on the line to be punched. And when he already is in melee, what do u do with your linemen? Do u punch the enemy, or do u dodge, so u can run away to make the best out of your mobility and find his perfect field on the pitch to achive the perfect positioning game? In general everybody would take the punch and the mobility stays unused. But with this decission everybody just thinks about the best case. We hope we win. The orc says when he does it, the opportunity thinks Happen in the worst case is lower. That's actually realy good, but it's an achievement noone wants to work with. We prefer glascannons most of the time. We want to reach high distances to stay our of the range of enemies. We want to reach them, when they got the Ball. We rate this higher, then survivability. How often in bb2, when a 10 was rolled movement was choosen over armorvalue? Who calculated, "when my Players armor won't break i can use him more often"? Most times we accept the worst case and buy a new one for next game. But instead of this we could use this cash to take enducements instead. Armor is good, but its underrated. Even u said, that u see the potential of the human higher then the orc. So jeah the orc belongs to this spot.

[@hamfastgamwich]

Hefty cannot be thrown and always ends up standing where the treemen are. I've found them to be terrible in my leagues