Top 5 Worst Bits | 6 Month (nearly) 6000 Mile Owners Review | 2021 KTM Super Adventure S

[@QuackLoud]

Great review. I am days away from signing paper for one of these. This video helps confirm what I love about these bikes. As an older rider that remembers days when my Triumph wouldn't start, or when the carb slide would stick on my old Yamaha, or ..... it's funny listening to modern riders complain about these things. "The fuel gauge is not accurate" I had a Honda trail bike that went from Full to half tank in a mile. LOL.

[@SamVBikes]

Amazing! Premature welcome to the orange team! I adore this bike still! 43k miles and still going haha. Done a 30k mile review later on the channel too if you're interested. I'd buy one again in a heartbeat!

[@srg-yo]

Quickshifter "misfire" also happens on BMWs. And probably bikes from any brand. You just have to be "sure-footed" when pushing-pulling the lever.

[@austinman1234567]

You beat me to it, by 11 months. I have learned to be very decisive and firm when using the quick-shifter on my R1200RT. High revs. also helps with smoother changes.

[@geekcycle9368]

Great video! I just bought a '22 Super Adventure S, and I've enjoyed your videos. You've done several of the mods that I want to do and I'm thankful to have your experience available!

[@SamVBikes]

Congratulations on the new bike! You'll love it! Glad I could be helpful to you!

[@D_F_A]

Thanks Sam for this video. It seems like most of the issues you are experiencing are user issues, quick shifter causing the misfire , how the chain is lubricated, vibration, etc and not bike issues. I'm looking at replacing my 1400GTR and my concerns are longevity of the bike itself, how long does the chain and sprockets last and tyres. It seems the front tyre only touches the ground half as much as the back wheel and I would be the same in the first year of owning that bike. I currently do around 25,000km per year. My 1400GTR has 210,000km on it, is as reliable as an old dog and runs like a sewing machine. The shaft drive will be the hardest thing to go away from.

[@SamVBikes]

Agreed! Most of them can be avoided once you learn what you need to do, like any new thing I guess! You can also ride around them. Nice choice on the 1400GTR! Lovely bikes to ride and kudos on that mileage! I would say that this is a different breed of bike though so I would go into it knowing that. My dad had 80/90,000kms on his 990 Adventure and that worked a dream still so hoping with love and the right maintenance, this will get up there. I can't speak for the chain and sprockets yet as I'm only 6500 miles in, but they look basically untouched. The original tyres on this lasted about 4800miles before I swapped them out. They had a good few thousand miles left in them before I would have needed to swap them, but I didnt like the tyres and has no confidence in them in the wet. It hasn't munched through my Anakee Adventure's anywhere near as quick as I thought though, and I've not been riding how they were intended so hopefully it won't be too bad! Getting rid of the shaft is going to be a big change! I do have a review coming on the 1250GS and hopefully the new Tiger 1200 in the new year which are both shaft too, so those might be worth a look. Thanks for watching!

[@brucekendall52]

Always good to hear owners impressions,thanks.

[@SamVBikes]

No problem. Thanks for watching!

[@brucecutts8841]

I agree with you on the fuel gauge - its fickle and a bit vague. Very quick to drop from 230 miles range to 180 but as you say its just one of its quirks. I still wish they'd been more imaginative with the fuel tank design and made it a 30 litre capacity.

[@SamVBikes]

Agreed. I've come to just expect 150 miles if I'm riding hard, and 250+ on a trip and go from there! Would be nice if it was a bit bigger, but I am happy it will do knocking on 300 miles. Might do a full range test one day to see what it can do before conking out!

[@MrSimonfoz]

I’ve got a Multistrada 1200 Enduro with a full Termignoni system vibes are just a thing on these massive V Twins it’s all part of the Character I’d say . Thanks for the video mate.

[@SamVBikes]

Lovely bike! Thanks for watching

[@petertaylor3015]

Great work Sam, I’m 2500 miles in after 4 months and there is no doubt in my mind that in 40 years of riding many bikes this is simply the best machine I have owned. It’s a keeper.

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! It's a stonking bike, absolutely love the thing! Glad to hear I'm not alone!

[@sircleancorp]

Hello, how many miles do you have now, and it is still great or start to have problems?

[@SamVBikes]

34k miles! There's a 30k mile review later on my channel

[@petertaylor7603]

@@sircleancorp I’m on 18000 miles and still not a single problem, I love it!

[@sircleancorp]

Can't wait to buy it... which is the best time price I can find it, here in Miami Florida is around $22K

[@garytaylor7611]

Another great watch Sam 👍 done similar kind mileage and like you not had any major mechanical or electrical problems. Love the thing just does it all n always leaves you grinning ear from ear.

[@SamVBikes]

Thanks Gary! I would much rather have these few little things, than have a bike that doesn't excite me this much to ride. It's been an awesome machine so far!

[@richardgiles2484]

The smoke thing is a bit like when you have done the bike with ACF50. I coat my bike twice a year with ACF50 and I still have the fire extinguisher to hand when I start it up 🤣🤣

[@SamVBikes]

Yes it is isn't it! I haven't coated this bike in ACF yet but will look forward to riding a small cloud when I do!

[@stephenalbert856]

Sam thanks for prompt reply. Yes 14.4 is exactly what I am seeing. I was expecting to see 14.7 . Bike is a 2022 version so still well within warranty. I had a GT some years ago and KTM told me the battery was a consumable part so had to pay myself. I will try my local KTM dealer and see what they have to say. All points to the battery I guess. I live in Almeria province Spain. The 300Km trip I told you about must have had over a hundred hairpins and countless big sweepers in the mountains. If you are in Southern Spain you will be welcome to come out with my local group most definatley biking heaven around here. Its still ALL YOUR FAULT cheers mate glad you talked me into it.

[@SamVBikes]

The highest I've seen mine while running is 14.6 I think but I have a set of denali's, Garmin, Hex Ezcan and everything running off the bike constantly. Plus my phones normally on charge in the front port too! The batteries seem to be a bit of a annoyance across the brands. A mate of mine just replaced his Tiger's battery from screen errors and trouble's starting! Triumph wouldn't replace it either! That sounds incredible! The bike is immense on those kind of roads isn't it! Like an oversized superduke!

[@davidmeadows4272]

You are one lucky geezer, had mine just twelve months and had so many electrical issues it had to go. It’s such a great bike and I loved riding it but had no confidence in its longevity or the KTM back up when things went wrong.it had to go

[@SamVBikes]

Ahh mate! That's so bad! What did KTM have to say about it? There's a few people I've been chatting to recently with different brands of bikes having the same issue too. Sometimes this much tech will only be a downfall eventually!

[@srk9357]

Faults/Issues I've noticed so far, Handlebar hits the glovebox lid when on lock. Most phones won't fit inside it. Can't adjust levers down due to mirrors hitting standard screen. SAR screen fixed that. Footpegs too small for standing, rally pegs feel great but will chew your boots without comforters. But I take a US size 13 boot. No USB ports outside, only 12v. Gearshift not great for riders with big feet, not long enough, lever adjustment only gives you really high(perfect for Tech 7's by the way), or a bit too low. Nothing in between. Also end is fixed and doesn't pivot like older KTM models. Standard exhaust sounds like a fart in a tin can. Can't use custom switches to go to suspension settings. ABS MTC settings always revert to on when you start the bike. Unless you buy the dongle. Heated grips aren't standard. Seat refuses to stay in the high position, falls down into low while riding. That's what I've noticed so far.

[@SamVBikes]

Good run down. Most of these I've managed to solve for myself pretty easily so not too bad considering. Put some below to see if they help. The first two I've managed to mostly solve by getting bar risers. I bought them anyway for better comfort and they increase the clearance. Still not perfect but better. SW motech ones. I was talking to my dealer about the handlebar blocking the glove box and he said it's so people can't steal your phone if you leave it in there. Not sure how true that is or if it's a happy coincidence, but getting my phone out even with bar risers isn't easy so it could well be on purpose. Doesn't seem like any manufacturer realises the size of phones but I didnt think KTM did too bad compared to others. The Multistrada v4 one would barely fit a burner phone... let alone a normal size smart phone. My Samsung S21 fits, but any plus size phone don't. Saying that, I could get my s10+ in there without its bulky case so not bad going. Got the SW Motech adventure pegs which are the same. I don't have the bolt in to secure them to its really quick to pop the insert in/out. I guess the issue with stock pegs is exacerbated with bigger feet. Bought a 12V to twin USB waterproof plug off amazon for about £15 which works a treat. I mainly use the glovebox, and only use the USB for powering my tankbag contents when on a trip. After seeing the fight my mate is going through with his Tiger trying to find a good micro-din socket adapter that's not £50, I'd take that all day long haha. I think the ABS turning back on is a legal thing. Stop people taking legal action when the ABS doesn't work in a crash. I ride in Rally mode (tech pack option) most of the time so I can leave MTC down very low without it defaulting The seat falling issue is apparently being solved by KTM. They have a solution for it but stalled by the global production shortages. So hopefully that won't be an issue for much longer. Apparently the powerparts seats don't do it though. I've got them but don't ride with it in the high position so couldn't confirm or deny. The exhaust... yeah... 2022 emissions suffocation! The Akrapovic sounds pretty much stock too which is a shame. I've got the Arrow Sonora now with removable dB killer... that sounds insane! Thanks for watching!

[@MrBeracah]

Hi Sam I made my own stainless steel guard to cover the exhaust in the area where the chain lube drips onto the exhaust. Big difference.

[@SamVBikes]

Glad someone else had found this happens too! I was tempted to do the same thing. Never got around to doing it

[@jonelvidge9191]

Great road that - the road from Baldock to Buntingford via Cottered, ( both directions) spoiled by solid white lines though. Carry on through Buntingford onto Barley, Barkway through Wendens Ambo to Saffron Walden then onto Finchingfield for lunch at the cafe next to the pub

[@SamVBikes]

Great few roads aren't they! Especially if you're lucky enough to get them quiet! Love a good Finchingfield run on a nice day! We should do a ride from Bikestop to Finchingfield next year!

[@jonelvidge9191]

@@SamVBikes yup, I’m up for organising that. In discussion with GoldTop leathers in Stansted Mountfitchet to run a few rideouts from their shop in the summer

[@SamVBikes]

Sounds like a great idea. I'll do a recce of some lanes over the early months of next year and put something together

[@traviscarter9300]

The fuel accuracy drives me nuts also. From 100 to 60 to 0 all of a sudden. I've just learned to start trip 2 to keep an eye on my distance driven and don't worry about the estimated range numbers.

[@SamVBikes]

Yeah agreed! That's pretty much what I do too. It's normally about same mileage out of a tank if I'm riding the same, so I know roughly, then I just tend to ride a bit calmer when it hits 50 miles for example. Would be nice if it was more accurate though!

[@ianparkes2538]

Agree with all points except the chain lube , that’s pilot error , never had smoke 🤣 if you think you’ve got the misfire. Go into menu and switch off quick shifter then you’ll know if it’s a clumsy foot or a fault .

[@SamVBikes]

Haha! Yes definitely something to do with application! If I spray on around the rear sprocket it doesn't do it! Haha

[@davidwinfield-bennett7071]

Great video,this would be my next bike after my s1000xr goes. The bit about the fuel gauge is the same on my BMW never reads the same even when brimming over can be anything from 180 to 200+ . 👍

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! Nice to hear its the same on the XR too!

[@hermannschmidt9788]

The fuel gauge can get in a kind of hurry suddenly once it has reached the last two bars. It once went from 90km to low fuel to blinking in a few minutes, depending on the road's gradient, it seemed. I kinda panicked the first time, but now I know that at least 5L are still in the tank.

[@SamVBikes]

Yes! Haha! Mine has done that before too, and worried me.. but after riding carefully for quite a while, getting to the fuel station, then realising I actually had quite a bit left!

[@bigred8438]

I bought my new bike in May this year also, but have only put 650 km on it, due mainly to an ever diminishing joy of life. Covid lock downs and restrictions not with standing, I just haven't warmed to it. A Suzuki Vstrom XT following a 10 year love affair with a BMW R1150GS. I am looking around for something else.

[@SamVBikes]

These lockdowns are doing no favours for our joy of riding! Sorry to hear youre not bonding with it but maybe things will get better once you have a few more k's under your belt. I have a review coming out in a few weeks on the new 1250GS if you're interested in that!

[@jamest5149]

The fuel gauge might be the algorithm, where frequency of measurement and averaging is used due to fuel slosh from braking and acceleration… it obviously needs a lot of time and measurements to then average out the level and then compute the distance to empty.

[@SamVBikes]

Yeah very true. That could well be what's causing it!

[@Maxboy234]

Hey Sam. New 1290 SAS owner here. Awesome bike. However my bike won’t power wheelie. I’ve tried turning off the MTC but it doesn’t make a difference.. Do you have to have the rally pack to be able to lower the anti wheelie? Great vid!

[@SamVBikes]

Hey! Congrats on the new bike! I have Rally mode yes, if you put it in that and dial the traction control to 1, it will easily wheelie. If you turn the traction control off it will definitely wheelie. 1st, 2nd and 3rd should come up Try Suspension in sport mode, increase rear preload and rally or sport throttle!

[@paulh4943]

Negative points so far: -sometimes it won't crank causing some software errors on the dash. Restarting it solves it. -weird wobble at 45mph when I let loose of the handlebar. -it's dangerous for my driving license. It's very fast.

[@SamVBikes]

Thats odd about the cranking.. Is it getting ridden enough so the battery stays charged? Definitely bad for the license haha!

[@paulh4943]

@@SamVBikes yes. It happens randomly

[@SamVBikes]

Thats so odd! The only time I've had a similar experience was after leaving the bike with ignition on messing around with settings on tft for too long. Must have drained the battery and struggled to start, then ran lumpy. Turned it off, restarted and it was fine!

[@vincentlong8773]

790 quickshifter does the same, especially under power. As you say, it's not a fault as such, it's just the rider not being positive enough with their gear shift. Talking about problems with KTM's though- my 790R has been terrible! Mainly coolant pipe's, but now it's started with the immobiliser! It's going to have to go the journey I think! 😒

[@SamVBikes]

Good to know its not just this bike! I'm hoping that the 1290/890 are slightly more bulletproof as they are a few years more advanced. Really annoying that bikes this new can still have faults as bad as you're experiencing!

[@motorbikemumblings]

Great video, just about to press the button on a new one next week, car wait.

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! It's amazing. 27k miles in on mine!

[@edithdriver2094]

Make sure the earth lead has a very good grounding. Intermittent grounding caused all sort of mischievous gremlins 👍

[@SamVBikes]

Good to know! Thank you

[@MagnumMuscle1000]

I have the previous gen 1290 S/A R. The bike is fantastic but has a few issues: Keyless ride sucks. I get key out of range errors even with a new battery in the fob. Keyless ride is overly complicated, expensive, and just not needed. Motorcycles have used regular ignition keys for decades with no issues. Same with the electronic gas cap. It's silly. Heat on my left leg is pretty bad; they need to fit a heat shield. The bars sweep back a little too much. The throttle has just a little too much free play and it's not adjustable.

[@SamVBikes]

The keyless ride on this model is much improved. I remember a few people complaining about failures with the previous gen SA, but so far I've not had a single issue with this one. I agree though, it's not necessary. The one thing I am happy about is that everything is keyless. It bugs me when ignition is, but the fuel cap isn't.. defeats the point even more!

[@spriario]

I had the previous Gen of this bike and I had the feeling the front was not put to the ground firmly and if I pull my hands from the handlebars I would experience shimmy at around 60-70 KM/H. Anything like that happened to you?

[@SamVBikes]

There are a few people that have this issue. I had it when I first fitted the Michelin Anakee Adventure tyres, but I raised the front forks a bit in the triple clamps and that seems to have solved it!

[@juststuff3267]

Sam, if you use WD40 to clean parts that will burn off like your video. It does on my 2016. Also you mentioned you like spending on your bike. Consider a Scottoiler, it will do the lubing for you and not over oil.

[@SamVBikes]

I don't use WD40 on the bike but worked out it was that thick winter chain lube getting warm, going all gunky and dripping down onto the rear exhaust header! Haha I have contemplated a Scottoiler!

[@skyworks1621]

My still has no problems since it has 0 kilometres and still around 90 days left till it goes out of garage since the weather in Slovenia wont let me drive it. Sure on the coast I could ride it but in Ljubljana no.... so counting the days I can have fun....

[@SamVBikes]

Ahh! It will feel even better when you can get out!

[@fabiena1787]

I disagree with you on the fuel gauge precision. Mine is fine. Yes, it adjusts its estimation based on your average fuel consumption. The other day, I went for a short ride to break in my new tires, and I was low on gas. Since I wasn’t far from a gas station close to my home, I decided to check the accuracy. The fuel autonomy went down, and I decided to go back when it showed 20 km remaining. By the time I arrived at the gas station, it showed 0 km. I put 22.1 litres in the tank. And to be honest, I had not tried to really top the fuel tank for the previous refill. So, that was pretty accurate if you ask me (I might have been able to do 10 more km, but nothing more). Also, I have never put chain lube on my exhaust: that could be a « you » thing. Cheers.

[@SamVBikes]

Good to hear. I'm over 14k miles in, and mine is still the same. It will read 180mile range, then I'll ride 30 miles with it still showing 180, then will suddenly drop to 150 range. So it's accurate in a sense, but doesn't count down like a lot of bikes as I mentioned. Nearly caught me out a few times commuting to work thinking I had 50 miles range but dropping to 30 as I get on the motorway. The chain lube seems to leak down when putting it on nearer the front sprocket on top of the swinging arm... but not further back or under the swinging arm. A few other owners have confirmed they have also had the same thing so means they alter where they apply lube.

[@n3v3rmind41]

Hi Sam ! Thanks for another great vid! May i ask you: what did you use to cover the handlebar clamp screws? looking good !

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! They are covers that come with the SW Motech handlebar risers! Basically just plastic pop in covers

[@jasonsearle2512]

It’s my bike that is featured on Ricardo Yeep’s channel. KTM haven’t been able to find the cause of My miss fire . KTM are giving me a new bike in January.

[@SamVBikes]

Ahh good to hear from you. One person said it was linked to the cable near the exhaust which wears through so i assume that wasnt the issue on yours. Glad they are sorting you a new bike!

[@Bistandklient]

Great content, I’m considering this bike and have a few questions: 1. How’s the pillion comfort level. 2. Which side panniers do you run. 3. What is the brand of the top box/bracket. Thanks!.

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! Sure thing. 1) It's good but probably not as good as a GS with comfort seat, or RT etc. I have upgraded to the ergo seats which made a difference but a decent sized seat for pillion. I rarely take a pillion as my girlfriend has her own bike though. 2) I don't run side panniers at the moment, just stick to soft roll bags. 3) It's a Givi Trekker Dolomiti topbox with the matching plate. I think the plate code is something like SRA7713. Hope that helps!

[@Yamalover78]

Nice one... They sort it out all of the known issues on the latest model. 👍🏻

[@SamVBikes]

Great! Thought that would be the case. Every completely new model has issues

[@Yamalover78]

@@SamVBikes I almost bought model before, they had some minor problems nothing extreme. The new one is a great pice of latest technologies. 🚀 Rocket

[@SamVBikes]

I was the same until I heard rumours they were making a new one. I waited and I'm really happy for it haha

[@bigt18cross]

I’ve just bought one of these and experienced the smoke today after cleaning the bike the day before but thanks to seeing your vid I didn’t shit myself half as much as I would have so thanks mate 😂

[@SamVBikes]

😂😂 yeah its worrying the first time you see it! Glad I'm not the only one haha

[@sobhagyasd2173]

Great video. I've seen many owners saying that their indicator switch is wobbly and there's not enough or no feedback.. is it true ?

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! It definitely could be a better design but after a month of riding the bike, you get used to it

[@stephenalbert856]

Cheers Sam. Thanks for coming back so quickly. Ok its in for misfire niggles on Monday so will get KTM Spain to tighten up headstock. I was thinking of jacking up the back but being a short arse makes my feet come off the ground. Will give it a small try however. On the other side how often, theoretically, are you ever doing over 140mph. In this case, in theory, every time your bloody mate on a BMW r1000 gets up your posteria.

[@SamVBikes]

Yeah get them to check it out and they should do most of the checks! Haha yeah I have to lower it back down when I go back to riding normal speeds!

[@benwells2338]

Hahaha Holy F! That clip you shared of the bike billowing all that white smoke 😅 I’m sure many owners of this bike, especially if they’re new to the KTM brand we’re just thinking “oh no…I have one of THOSE KTMs…”. I know reliability is a hard metric to track because there are SO many variables like how well someone maintains their bike or how they ride it, outside the bike’s mechanical integrity itself, but ahh, I’m still so hesitant over getting any KTM product.

[@SamVBikes]

Haha it's mad isn't it! I've worked out the best way to spray lube on the chain now so it doesn't happen, and it only seems to happen with the waterproof ones. Agreed though! Having said that, I'm nearly 13k miles in and still not had a single issue!

[@scottmilo3429]

Well Ben,I've been riding my 2013, yes 2013 model 1190S since new originaly riden at KTM factory world dealer intro zt thd factory in Mattighofen, hope i speelec that correctley. However 119,600+ kms properley serviced at Valley Motorsports in West Kelowna BC Canada. Actually by Barry Wellings the guy that rode the bike originally's company mechanic. I have or did purchase 5he bike still own in ride it pretty much like i stole it. Have thousands od 2 up off road and logging road kms logged and yes going along nicely even 2 up. Perfect reliability onlg 1 issue pre-empted by Aubry a faulty oil temp reading sensor fixed no other issures. SMilo ride hard go farther sleep well KTM

[@gokulradhakrishnannair4856]

Smoke is normal.. Lube gets on the top of engine exhaust or somewhere to the engine makes it smoke..

[@michaelmclarney1994]

It's good the niggles are only minor issues, perhaps they can sort the fuel guage accuracy with software updates? I guess quite a few people may ride with their foot under the gear shift, I do, so hopefully by highlighting this you will help other owners. Nice one Sam, I this mild weather holds until the spring for you!

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you Michael! Small things like this I can easily live with, especially with the grins it gives me! Hopefully I can keep relatively dry! Ride safe!

[@michaelmclarney1994]

@@SamVBikes will do mate, have a good Christmas 😀👍

[@SamVBikes]

You too mate! Hope you get a nice bottle of something peaty!

[@michaelmclarney1994]

@@SamVBikes thanks, you too 👍 I already have several from the past two or three Christmases and birthdays, still unopened as I rarely drink it these days. I'm sure more will be coming my way soon 😀

[@SamVBikes]

Save it for when I do a trip up your way.. I'll take the good ones off your hands haha!

[@2.Wheel.Explorer]

The fuel gauge issue is the same as what I am experiencing with the ktm 1190. It will suddenly go down and put me in a panic mode

[@SamVBikes]

That's it!! Leaving work in the morning with 80 miles showing, half way to work it drops to 40... it can be really worrying! I reset my trips each time I fill up which helps me to know roughly what I've got left but definitely could be better!

[@2.Wheel.Explorer]

The worst time to happen is when I am touring the back roads and passed a petrol station thinking I have enough and then it suddenly dropped and had to ride more conservatively 😅

[@SamVBikes]

Haha yes! That's so irritating!! Looks like they won't be making it more accurate any time soon then!

[@husseinkarimji8841]

Its the same thing on the 390

[@Abjure_0_]

I was one of these owners with the misfire issue. The problem solved it was the crankshaft sensor. Nothing to do with the shifter. Thank you!

[@SamVBikes]

Glad you got It sorted! Thanks for watching

[@sd5458]

Chain lube solution? Use a piece of cardboard to block overspray from chain cleaner onto the exhaust, and use Motul chain paste for the lube. Problem solved.

[@markfromleeds]

Cracking review Sam thank you

[@SamVBikes]

Thanks Mark! Cheers for watching as always! Happy New Year!

[@mantan_rtw]

My 1190 Adv also smokes after lubing the chain unless I properly wipe the rear header. It loops under the chain so no surprise.

[@SamVBikes]

Ahh good to hear! I've tried being so careful but it does it every time!

[@bikerguy3339]

I switched off the quick shifter.. unless your on a track why have it on ?

[@SamVBikes]

I'm intrigued as to why you wouldn't have it on? Gives you smoother, less interrupted acceleration and less use of the clutch so prolonging the life of the clutch plates. Don't have to be riding hard to use it

[@richardallen1816]

New bike...newer software...always equals glitches in the system. Given a couple of years and I have a feeling KTM will have it all straightened out.

[@SamVBikes]

Too right! It seems that they have managed to get a lot of the bugs sorted out in the market so far! Still problem free nearly 13k miles in!

[@Tirikitaon]

Would you go around the world on the KTM 1290 Super Ad S???

[@SamVBikes]

If I could escape work and get someone to pay for my tyres... 1000%! It's been faultless for 14k miles, it's comfy (heated seat too) and it's hilarious fun!

[@bikerguy3339]

My 2018 1290 adventure the fuel cap opens when the dash is on

[@SamVBikes]

I assume its a safety feature on the euro 5/6 bikes. Not just KTM that won't do it now. Same on the BMWs, Triumphs etc

[@emak4558]

dash and fuel cap is on purpose mate. same way with r1250.

[@SamVBikes]

Yes! A few people are moaning that that is an issue, but I was more pointing out you have to wait for the dash to turn off

[@jamesfinlay971]

Hi Sam - enjoying your channel - thank you... my 2021 SAS' worst problem is the factory seat on higher setting, will occasionally drop a notch (like when landing a wheelie) to the lower position. Minor heart attack the 1st time it happened. Ricardo Yeep has a work-around fix for it. KTM dealer doesn't acknowledge that it's an issue or even known by the factory. Also, phone compartment too small for plus size phones. Otherwise - all good like you... I also can't help giggling like a fool when on the noise ;) One question re your traction control setting - I see you consistently ride with it set to 1... have you not had any slides that felt too uncontrolled, at that setting?

[@SamVBikes]

Hi James! Thanks for watching! Yes I've heard of this. My latest update on that is KTM made a replacement seat for it, but in testing it occasionally did the same thing but they are hoping to get a redesigned part out early this year. Regarding the TC, I've never had it slide out from me on the road, unless I hit gravel or something. I normally dial it up to around 5 in wet condition which helps with any break in traction from acceleration etc. Thanks again for watching!

[@pablohumphs6060]

What did you do to your front wheel? Is that a decal or have you had the orange block painted? Tia

[@SamVBikes]

It's a decal! I have twin orange arrows, on each wheel and a 1290 logo too. Through a website called Kanoxide.com who do a variety of Moto decals. Chatted with the owner through Instagram too and he was really helpful

[@pablohumphs6060]

@@SamVBikes thanks mate

[@adamcampbell7104]

I had the same problem with the quick shifter. When I had thicker boots on (cold) I wasn't pressing the lever up enough so it was like a fake gear. Put normal boots back on and never did It again. Few questions. What do you think of the extender on your front windscreen as at the moment all the air is just going straight into my visor area which is not very comfortable with visor open. Also what's your thoughts on your arai, the only thing putting me on buying one is no internal sun visor, was there enough room also for speakers for intercom inside? I also have the same problem with fuel readings, annoying but get use to how many miles left roughly

[@SamVBikes]

Thats when I first noticed it! Bought some new Sidi Adventure 2 boots and it happened on the way home from the shop! The visor on the windscreen makes a huge difference! I can ride along the motorway with visor open and rarely put my visor down. I know the clip ons are hit&miss. Some are really good, others don't really help so I'd suggest getting a good one that's wide enough too. Mines made by Puig. I love the Arai Tour X4. So many vents, nice fit and having that huge field of view is great. I found the speaker cut outs were way too far back which meant my speakers were pushing against my ear at the back so I trimmed the foam inside the cheek pad which made it much better. Would have been nice to have a drop down visor but I have a smoked visor so not the end of the world!

[@SamVBikes]

Haha great taste in bikes and boots! The Tour X4 is really highly rated across the peaked lid choices. I just fancied seeing what it was like to have one. The field of view is enough of a selling point for me, and because I'd look odd wearing an Xspirit 3 on a SAS haha! I do yes. The free KTM app is absolute trash! Wouldnt connect to the bike, or recognise anything at all! The paid one is okay. I only use it for the turn-by-turn navigation which is decent. The thing that bugs me is it seems to randomly choose to avoid motorways. I set it to that once or twice and it just does it every now and then which is annoying. Other than that, it's decent.

[@adamcampbell7104]

@Sam Vincent will try give it a go as the sat nav would come in handy now and again. Your making me want to buy the X4! Only thing now is the speaker problem, I have the cardo packtalk bold and I'd imagine I would have the same problem. Do you know if there is a way to get your mobile phone contacts on the dash to make calls? Just looking on the net and puig do a touring screen but for the previous model, presume they are different fitments?

[@SamVBikes]

If it helps, my dad has a packtalk with the bigger 40mm speakers and thats on his Tour X4. Mine is a Sena 30k but I'll switch that up for the packtalk when I stop spending my money on bike stuff! Worth trying it on if you can! You can't get phone contacts on the dash, or make calls out which is annoying. I do wish there was more control of the phone through it but I can still do it through the Sena. They are different screw holes for the screen. Measured it up when I was at the dealer and they were quite a way out

[@adamcampbell7104]

@Sam Vincent yes that does help, X4 is on the list I think then, hopefully don't have to create some holes and can use pre existing ones though. I have a list for the bike aswell. I like the look of the arrow exhaust and want headlight protector and rad guards.. have you seen the rad guard which comes from Australia (hefty price tag but looks awesome)

[@ianwright7298]

Shortlisted the 1290 SAS after enjoying my current 790 Duke. Its long distance credibility is solid however how did it cope with Wales twisty A and Bs as it looks a massive bike?

[@SamVBikes]

It's surprisingly nimble. The low tanks really help with being able to throw it around. Plus it's got a shed load of power and torque to carry you out of the corners!

[@duexie]

What screen spoiler is that again? Seen it on vid the other day but can't find video now

[@SamVBikes]

Its the PUIG one. I think it's a 6375W model but I can't be sure. Basically the widest one they do as a clip on

[@stephenalbert856]

Hello O great guru. Many thanks for all your help in my niggles. As you said a lot off the problems are just learning about what works. New question. If, hypothetically, that , on a track not a road, you were, hypothetically, to get the wobbles at, hypothetically maybe 140mph is there something in the electronics package that might help this problem ?

[@SamVBikes]

Haha! Is this track also In Mexico? Because I've definitely been to that track too 😂 A few bits to try on that. Electronics wise, bump up the rear preload to put more weight over the front wheel. Most of it seems to come from a light front end. Everyone seems to raise the forks in the triple clamps by about 5mm which helps, and by that I mean so you have more sticking out the top of the triple clamp and essentially lowering the front. Although one guy did the opposite and it helped too. Weird right?! Other than that, Tyres seem to be a big factor for a lot of people. Some seem to cause it and other don't. Headstock bearing being a tad loose is the next thing I'd check after that. Get KTM to nab it up as they know its a common question so should do it for free. Worst case scenario, upgrade the oil in the steering dampener, although that's more masking the issue than solving it! Topbox caused a lot of wobbles for me personally and its gone since taking that off

[@ronvolle4147]

What windshield mod did you put on the stock windshield to soften the buffeting. ?

[@SamVBikes]

It's one from PUIG. My order said the model number was 6319W but apparently Amazon had the wrong one. Its the wide variety from their clip ons! Hope that helps

[@IanTed]

Love the smoke, once doused my VFR in WD40, thought I needed an extinguisher as she sat on the drive warming up😆

[@SamVBikes]

Always a worrying sight! Reminds me I need to WD40 my lock on the topbox! Thanks!

[@ulaskvlcm]

Hı Sam, how did u mount a Gopro on your bike? İt looks cool

[@SamVBikes]

Haha! It's a sticky pad on the plastic behind the screen, then a ram ball mount to get it above the TFT. Annoyingly I have a Garmin in that place now so I can't mount it there anymore!

[@stephenalbert856]

Ok I have this misfire issue. I do not think I have my foot on the lever but will monitor it. Also several spurious warning lights which then disappear. Tried to power up the bike and nothing comes up on display . Eventually turns on. Lots of stuff regarding battery not fully charged on internet. What charging voltage do you see on your bike. THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT ! Love this bike but these little niggles are a pain when you have just bought one. I did 300Km through the mountains of Almeria and Granada province yesterday and it is fabulous. What are your thoughts on the supplied battery ? Is it worth upgrading ? Cheers mate.

[@SamVBikes]

Ahh, that's irritating! I've just replaced my battery after just over 2 years. I started getting regular preload/MTC errors when starting it up, which started over the course or 2 or 3 weeks suddenly. The stock battery voltage when ignition is on, but the engine not running was 12v, which is too low. It ideally needs to be above 12.4v. When running, it sits at 14.3v or higher depending on how many accessories I have on. The bike needs about 15 minutes of riding to replenish the starting voltage loss, too. My new battery is exactly the same make and model as the old one, but the maintenance free gel AGM version and all errors have gone. "Yuasa YTZ14S MF" The batteries that come out of the factory can be fine as mine was for 2 years, but they aren't the most powerful, so will be temperamental if you dont ride the bike a lot, so a lot do upgrade. Apparently, Lithium doesn't work well with the 1290s, though, for some reason. Some upgrade to Motobatt, or the £200+ Antigravity battery, which are meant to be great but sod paying that much for a battery!! In your situation, I'd get KTM to replace the battery for you if possible under warranty and get them to take a look at the misfire to see if it is the flywheel sensor. I adjusted my lever and its never happened since so I must have been touching the gear lever without realising! Hope you get it sorted bud

[@stephenalbert856]

Ok moved the gear change lever to the furthest position and was on my tippy toes on the foot rest. Guess what only two misfires. One was me , idiot , trying to wind it on in 6th gear. So one misfire in 300Km. I can live with this. Started putting the bike on a battery charger when in garage. This now seems to have sorted the caution warnings. Battery as fitted is a gel battery so no problem in theory but I seem to have cured it. As you said its just learning to live with it. Cheers mate.@@SamVBikes

[@SamVBikes]

Glad you're nearly there! I'd still get KTM to have a look at the misfiring but at least it's 90% done!

[@vanwilson4980]

Hi Sam, Great video and review.. I have a 2019' SAS and love it with many smiles per mile... only issue to work on so far was the heat! which I have minimized and increased performance with some Rottweiler products etc... wondering how the heat is on new model and if you have any experience with previous model and think upgrading is worth while?

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! I can only answer from a few test rides on the previous model I was tempted to buy, so don't take it too seriously haha! The heat was one of the reasons I didn't pull the trigger. This new one is still warm, but it's directed away from you with the twin radiators, so you don't feel like you're sitting on an oven! You can still feel it on hot days though. As for upgrading, this new model, to me, feels a lot more refined and has a few new toys which is nice. The engine, Quickshifter etc just feels a little smoother, although some previous gen owners say it's not as 'crazy' as the previous one. I ride in rally mode all the time which makes it a beast to me but definitely ride one to see if you still love it. The height and weight distribution is a lot better though. A lot less top heavy, and much better balanced which really helps. A few nice little touches like back-lit switchgear, radar cruise etc which does make it worth it for me. Sorry for the long reply!

[@vanwilson4980]

@@SamVBikes Thank you for input.. never too long.. yes unfortunately these bikes like many others do run Hot.. (which many are reluctant to admit) I had an 1190 which I sold for same reason.. thought about selling this one but it was so fun I decided to keep it and invest in some remedies which have worked to make it way more tolerable.. as well as a wheelie improved fun factor 👍.. hopefully I will get a chance to test drive the new one sometime ...? best of luck with the new bike.. look forward to seeing more updates.

[@SamVBikes]

No problem. They do still run hot as it's essentially the exact same engine, but the management seems a lot better. Blowing the hot air out sideways means its not all coming up underneath you. Thank you for watching and if you get chance to test ride one, let me know what you think! Ride safe

[@emak4558]

sounds like you are over lubing your chain. clean chain equal good. drown in oil - just adds dirt magnet. light oil to prevent rust. otherwise - chain is sealed lube

[@SamVBikes]

It does this with very little lube, not sure why. I use XCP for chain lube and it's advised to not use much of that anyway

[@johanstrampraat1684]

You have any problems with the vizier on your helmet driving fast?

[@SamVBikes]

None at all! I have the clip-on on my windscreen which means I have very little wind though!

[@jameshope1574]

Hey Sam. Awesome videos and thanks for making them! I have the same bike. You mention there are some that have misfires around, just wondering where you are hearing this. Is it just from Ricardo yeep's channel or other places. I'm investigating a possible misfire with mine in conjunction with my dealer so just interested in any other info on this issue! 😁

[@SamVBikes]

Hey! Thank you! I heard of it on Yeep's video first but started doing some digging on owners forums etc and found a thread or two on it. All I managed to find mostly was people having the same Quickshifter experience as I do. There was one owner who said he had issues pre-600 mile run in service, then once dealer did that and updated the software, its been fine since. I do wonder if it has something to do with the timing on the twin spark plugs for each cylinder. Best of luck solving it bud!

[@goldenone1976]

@@SamVBikes the misfire problem has been more or less tracked down to the fact that the wire from the o2 sensor gets routed behind the gear shift linkage. If it wears through the insulation, that causes intermittent misfire. Dealers are now using a pair of cable ties to hold the wire to the frame till it's cleared the linkage... (And replacing the o2 sensor if need)

[@SamVBikes]

@@goldenone1976 AHH Amazing!! Good find. I haven't looked into it since I found the issue with mine (Quickshifter) so really appreciate the update on that!

[@mickvincent7357]

Two good episodes, I guess with effectively 3 fuel tanks must be hard to measure accurately, I can't really remember my old 990, twin tanks, but think it just counted miles from reserve 40 miles to 0. However KTM must be able to find a solution but guess bean counters got in the way,😂

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you. Its not the end of the world but it can get irritating if I leave for work with 70 miles in the tank, get half way to work and it drops to 40!

[@cpuuk]

In 5K miles the screen has rebooted twice (whilst riding along) for no obvious reason- I told the Dealer, he just shrugged his shoulders. The indicator switch is just plain stupid design.

[@SamVBikes]

Shame that some dealers are so careless to help! I agree with the indicator design but I'm used to it now so cancelling isn't an issue anymore

[@rajindarsingh1417]

I’m comparing this to the Busa, your thoughts? Mainly touring

[@SamVBikes]

Completely different bike unfortunately. The Busa is completely sport touring. I've not ridden the new one but it seems more leant over and cramped compared to an ADV bike so could be more taxing on a long tour. The thing I love about adventure bikes for touring is the amount of space you get to add stuff onto it. A sport touring bike is difficult to strap luggage to. Having said that, some of the newer sport touring bikes are really making an effort to make that easier. Hope that helps in some form!

[@rajindarsingh1417]

@@SamVBikes - I had a Diavel followed by a GS. I preferred the Diavel but it ran too hot for day to day traffic. The Busa would be a lot cooler & smoother & definitely reliable. But your KTM is really making me consider. I have a good 10 months. If I was going for an ADV bike it’s between the AT DCT or the KTM , or BUSA / BMW RS 1250 ( don’t like the dealership. The KTM is 32 000 pounds in Singapore, cheaper than the Honda. 😂

[@SamVBikes]

32,000!!!! 😭😭 I feel for you sir! The R1250RS Is an amazing bike, and I think I'd have that over the busa personally. More purpose built. Between the KTM and AT, I would chose the SAS all day long. The AT supports apple car play which is a great feature, but I like my bike to feel a little crazy. Put a big smile on my face! Haha

[@rajindarsingh1417]

@@SamVBikes - Thanks for your feedback 😊🙏🏼

[@SamVBikes]

Anytime 💪🏼

[@TiagoSnts1]

above 200km/h do you have any wable problems?

[@SamVBikes]

There is a slight wobble but pumping up the preload on the rear seems to solve that. Living in the UK, I vary rarely go over that speed

[@emrearpaci7278]

Where is the jacket from ??

[@SamVBikes]

Its a Richa Daytona 60s jacket! Love it

[@mariosavva999]

Great video Sam! I have been watching your KTM SAS videos with interest, as I am on the verge of buying a brand new one! I just pray that I don't get 'one if those KTM's' 🙏🙏 I will be buying the bike using KTM finance on a PCP deal, never done anything like this before, don't suppose you have any experience of this do you? Because I'm pretty clueless when it comes to financials 😂🤦‍♂️

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! There are a few very quick fixes if you do get one of those. For example some people have their bikes randomly stop running even though they have a full tank... the dealers forget to turn on both the fuel taps sometimes! There's 2... most bikes only have one! I'm by no means a financial guru, and it's definitely worth doing more research but with the PCP, you get cheaper monthly payments which are subject to interest, then you get a balloon payment at the end which is what they think the bike will be worth based on your agreed mileage. If you go over the mileage, they can change their valuation at the end. So for example, a PCP might be £150pm, and after 2 years, you have a balloon of £6k to pay if you agree 10k miles a year. That mileage only matters if you give the bike back and walk away. If you buy it, it doesn't matter. On a HP (Hire purchase), you're paying more per month, but no balloon or mileage limits etc. The interest is charged per year, so you want the lowest interest rate you can get, although a new law was passed saying dealers can't really change that rate anymore, so try get money off accessories to make up for it. If the bike is 10k, and you have a 5% interest rate with the agreement over 2 years, you'll pay 5% of whatever the total is left each year Hope that helps! Very rough overview!

[@mariosavva999]

@@SamVBikes thanks for the reply mate! Appreciate it. Yeah pretty much what I thought, I'll have a dig into it and see what's what. I may have to end up buying a 19/20 model outright instead, we'll see, the Gen 2's are still awesome bikes, either way I'll be on a 1290 SAS! I ride many of the roads you do so might see you out there! 😁 Take care, ride safe 👍🏼🙏

[@SamVBikes]

Worth pricing up to see which one is costing you more etc. You can ask the dealer for a an outright cost etc too if that helps. The interest rates on 2nd hand bikes are normally a lot higher so get all the info from the dealer before you pull the trigger! Enjoy it when you get one! Ride safe

[@marijnkramer6897]

Vibrations?!? I testdrove it and found it freaking smooth!!!🤣 okey, i am use to my SMT 990😅

[@SamVBikes]

Haha! It's lovely when you're not going for it.. but sat in 2nd waiting to overtake feels like it would sell well in the adult toy industry! 😂

[@Pakonan666]

Hello Unfaithful Sam In the first place, why do you use the rally mode if the manual says that it is only for off ???. I understand that it is more beautiful and it is a different motorcycle in that way hehe. To say that my black panther 17 thousand kms and super happy although she has some discomfort. In fact, the favorites are sometimes forgotten but very occasionally I don't care at all. I have the music in 1 and heated grips and seat in 2. Another failure and this one if it bothers me that you do not mention is in stopped to put neutral many times it goes to 2 and I give it again first it is very sensitive and annoying to get it right. The level of gasoline also happens but I do not give any importance to how full it is always and what I have left is reliable. Vibrations at high and low speeds were solved with squeeze steering. For the rest I would buy this beast sas2021 called barbara black panther. Salu2 from your most faithful unfaithful Pako

[@SamVBikes]

Hey Pako! The Rally mode allows me to dial the traction control up and down based on my riding which I find useful! Especially when the traction control is tied to the wheelie control! I agree with your points! Stopping in 2nd gear trying to find neutral was an issue on my old bike so I don't really notice that! Thanks for watching Pako! Ride safe

[@SamVBikes]

Its tied to the traction control, so you can turn traction control off which turns off wheelie control. But trust me.. it still wheelies with traction control dialled down! If its on 1.. there is no intervention from it at all

[@stephenalbert856]

But apart from this " It's all your fault " I may have been flying across a sunny plain at high speed on a great bike. Cheers mate

[@SamVBikes]

😂😂 thanks pal! Hope you get it sorted

[@ydfriedlander]

Thoughts on a Tracer 900 GT as first >650cc bike?

[@SamVBikes]

I've not ridden the new one, but the Tracer 900 is a cracking bike. Plenty of linear power with enough torque. Plus the triple sounds amazing when you're going for it!

[@ydfriedlander]

@@SamVBikes Have you ever considered doing videos on 125cc bikes? Means content for people that have yet to progress to an actual licence.

[@SamVBikes]

I have a few smaller capacity bike reviews coming! None are 125cc, but definitely lower license compliant! I get dazzled by the shiny, powerful, expensive bikes and walk past the small capacity bikes too much so trying to make more of an effort with them 👌🏼

[@HRJ1411]

Don’t want this bike, want the R, reason I’m not buying it - there’s no bloomin Rs in the country, been on waiting list since April, COME ON KTM, PULL YOUR FINGER OUT AND MAKE SOME MORE!!!! Thanks for vid, fingers crossed I pick mine up in ‘22

[@SamVBikes]

I cant believe they haven't managed to get bikes out yet. I assume its to do with the global silicone shortage and chip production issues!

[@HRJ1411]

@@SamVBikes probably! I spoke to Area Manager at Birmingham show, apparently my dealership has 2 coming next year (2!!!?) one in January, one in March, one of those is mine!

[@SamVBikes]

@@HRJ1411 At least one is yours!! Imagine if they had 2 coming and it wasn't yours!!! That's crazy, can't believe they are so short on them!

[@stevenSmith-tz6iy]

Hi Sam. No issues with mine, we'll explained about the quick shifter as you do need to be positive with it. Same as the fuel reading once you learn its not a issue, I fill up every 150 to 180 miles anyway. My mt09 tracer was the same, full reading then straight to half no increments till then. Still absolutely love the bike, grin with every ride. When's the arrow coming ? and what one you getting titanium or the dark one.

[@SamVBikes]

Precisely! Really not issues at all, just bits you need to get used to. I really had to concentrate to think of negatives haha! I dont know! Shipping it saying end of Jan estimated which is painful to hear! I went for the silver titanium. Thought it looked more stock and matches the titanium sump guard

[@stevenSmith-tz6iy]

@@SamVBikes what company did you get it from Sam

[@SamVBikes]

Ordered through Bikestop (my local bike shop) as they have good connections to get it hopefully sooner! I ordered it pretty late as I'd spent too much money elsewhere haha

[@stevenSmith-tz6iy]

@@SamVBikes OK where are you based as I'm in Essex so get a few together for a meet next year ?

[@SamVBikes]

I'm up in Welwyn in Hertfordshire. I find myself over in Finchingfield quite a lot in summer as they are good roads between me and there. Could be good!

[@MiddletoM]

Found another local rider. im over near hitchin

[@SamVBikes]

Give me a wave if you ever see a short guy on a Super Adventure doing really small wheelies then getting scared! Haha

[@simon1290r]

God I just love it. Wish I could afford to part ex my 18 haha

[@SamVBikes]

Haha! They are slowly coming out with offers so keep an eye out and you might get a deal!

[@mohdrazmi756]

Woobling?

[@SamVBikes]

Nothing anymore! Sometimes get it with a topbox fitted but that's it! A few solutions in the market for it

[@russellpeterson7548]

What!? Come on, mate. Turn signal button is easily the WORST thing about this bike!

[@SamVBikes]

I mean... that being the worst thing is pretty high praise to the bike haha! It's a crap design yeah, but you get used to it after a month. The new ones have been changed to a different switch

[@chrislovell7448]

Why can't KTM fix all the bugs on these bikes. Oh wait, I know, because people CONTINUE TO BUY THEM.

[@SamVBikes]

I'm 18k miles in and haven't had any major issues. A very occasional preload error if loaded up but nothing that stops the bike riding. BMW, Triumph, Ducati, Aprilia etc all have very similar issues. Annoying but I guess it's not the size of the car market

[@samuelmandarelli2645]

Great bike… WAY TOO TALL! KTM designs all of its bikes for basketball players.

[@SamVBikes]

Haha agreed! Although this one is much better as you can drop the rear preload. I can flat foot at 5ft9 if the rear PL is down around 50%

[@stevek4449]

Should have photoshopped a pipe, cigar or cigarette and just say your bike is having a smoke after a fun ride😂

[@SamVBikes]

😂😂 It's just having a well deserved rest

[@emak4558]

my dislike - how hard is it to make a windscreen that prevents wind blast to the helmet at highway speeds? ktm - do you have engineers more that 5ft 2 in tall? ktm is staffed by short engineers. only explanation. Austrians are tiny ?

[@SamVBikes]

Agreed! There's definitely enough surface area on that front end to make something effective without it looking out of place. The clip-on makes a huge difference but would be nice if it worked from factory. Mind you... a LOT of new bikes have the same issue when they are meant to be touring/adventure bikes!

[@chuckfranck9237]

Buy aDucatti