Top 5 Best Bits | 6 Month (nearly) 6000 Mile Owners Review | 2021 KTM Super Adventure S

Nearly 6000 miles into owning my 2021 KTM 1290 Super Adventure S, what are my top 5 positives about the time I've spent with the bike so far?
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Gear;
Helmets - Arai Tour X4
Summer Gear - Richa Daytona 60s and Revit Lombard 2 Cordura Jeans
Touring Gear - Halvarssons Walkyr Jacket and Wish Trousers
Boots - Daytona Roadstar GTX, Sidi Adventure 2 and Daytona AC Classics in Brown
Gloves - Knox Handroid Pod Mk2, Dainese Corbin D-Dry, Gerbing X12 heated gloves
Camera Set Up;
Main Camera - GoPro Hero 9 Black
B Camera - GoPro Hero 8 Black
Drone - DJI Mavic Mini (1st edition)
Enjoy!

[@borkarms]

Very Nice... Ur really Happy with ur purchase...

[@davidhughes3051]

Great review Sam and thanks for doing the U-ey on that fun fun giggly road. I love my MT09, loads of giggles on that too but I find myself pining for a more touring oriented machine for longer trips. I really like the utility look, subjective as you say, compared to the GS and the Multistrada so it seems I've made up my mind and won't be able to resist the 1290 sas next spring. Happy days and keep riding safely pal.

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! Haha I enjoyed that road way too much! The MT09 is an awesome bike but if you like the crazy side of it but want an adventure bike, this definitely is something to consider. I love the looks of it too! Thanks for watching and ride safe!

[@ydfriedlander]

Beautiful bike, beautiful sound!

[@SamVBikes]

Definitely is Dovid!

[@garytaylor7611]

Just bumped over 7k on mine so far Sam and apart from FECKING seat its been bomb proof. It gets pinned everywhere but it just screams for more. LOVE IT 👍👍👍

[@SamVBikes]

Good effort! Hopefully in Jan/Feb that seat will get sorted! Glad you're loving it too 👌🏼

[@dpinedoblog]

Glad you love the bike. Looks amazing. Once they come to the US, I want to give her a ride. I thought my old GSA was too tall, heavy, and wide. This seems like more fun. Might be my next bike. Although I miss my old Harley Dyna.

[@SamVBikes]

Definitely worth it! The weight of this being down the side in the low tanks makes a huge difference! Picking it up when you drop it off roading is very easy (don't ask how I know haha)

[@Lighthouse_Rides]

Great review love the positivity, fed up of everyone talking only about negatives.

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! I don't know why everyone is so miserable on here.. I don't think I could be when on the bike haha!

[@Lighthouse_Rides]

@@SamVBikes the more expensive bikes always come with some hate from people that don't own them. Think I may have seen you Sunday in wgc I was in car though

[@SamVBikes]

Very true! Quite possibly - was my Sunday extended coffee run. Was enjoying a nice afternoon even though the bike got disgustingly filthy just from back roads!

[@davidmeadows4272]

I had a 2018 model, loved the ride and many of its features but lost faith in it with its random electrical faults and poor dealer support. Swapped it out for a V-strom 1050 and love it and have peace of mind in its reliability.

[@SamVBikes]

The previous gen was know for its random electrical gremlins so I'm hoping they have sorted it with this! Vstrom is a solid peace of kit though

[@skyworks1621]

My 1290 ADS, is now 1 month in a garage with 0 km/mil.... I cant even try it since we have fog all day long and wet roads/now snow in Ljubljana. I do love the looks and cant wait till March to drive since that is the month that I used to take the previous bikes out of the winter sleep.

[@SamVBikes]

Ahh I bet that's hard not being able to ride it! You'll love it when you get out of winter!

[@stevenSmith-tz6iy]

Hi Sam. Had mine since September, agree with all your comments about the sas. It really is a brilliant bike. Got Scotland and Wales booked next year for a couple of weeks away. Great video

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you mate! It's an awesome bit of kit isnt it! I did a Wales trip on this in early September (videos a few weeks back on the channel if you're interested) but definitely need to get back to Scotland. Such a great bike! Thanks for watching

[@stevenSmith-tz6iy]

@@SamVBikes yeah watched the wales trip videos. Was doing the nc500 next year but after watching your crieff cloverleaf videos decided to book that up can't wait.

[@SamVBikes]

Ahh great! Crieff trip was awesome. The West and North days were by far the best. If you have time, get up to Applecross pass! Thanks for watching the vids, appreciate it!

[@4tech69]

It's one of the most impressive Bikes available today. If not the most. That's saying a lot given how most higher end road bikes are quite good these days. Waiting for the new modes to arrive in the US still. But, still torn because the 1290 and 890. I've got a Low Rider S which carries me around comfortably and still pretty sporty. So thinking an 890 would be a good meet in the middle.

[@SamVBikes]

Definitely agree! Absolutely fantastic and it really does everything I could ask for. If you're in the market I'd potentially wait. There are leaks for the new 990 Adventure for next year. 890 is such a great bike though!

[@gbaxter1957]

I have just bought a Superadventure S and I am looking forward to getting out and about on it.

[@SamVBikes]

Congratulations!! Hope you love it as much as I do!

[@hermannschmidt9788]

SAS reviews are the best. Riders end up giggling sooner or later. Can't wait to hop on mine next spring and giggle me silly.

[@SamVBikes]

Haha! If you are ever in a bad mood, this thing always changes it!

[@IanTed]

Having had three GSs I fancy a change, could be tempted😜

[@SamVBikes]

Haha if you're wanting your GS after it's taken some suspicious looking pills, this could be the bike for you!

[@aleksandarkanizaj]

Nice video man, first one I've seen from your channel. I own a 2019 SAS, considering to upgrade to the updated model like yours in 2022. Although before joining team orange I was a Triumph fan boy, so the brand new Tiger 1200 is very interesting to me tbh.

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! I do love this bike but that new tiger 1200 is going to be a great bike I reckon! My dad has one on order so will be able to do a good comparison!

[@aleksandarkanizaj]

@@SamVBikes oh great, looking forward for the comparison! Subbed and bell on so I don't miss it. :) In mean time I will test ride the new 1290SAS.

[@SamVBikes]

Amazing! Thank you so much! See if you can get on one with the Rally Mode. It makes it such a fun bike to ride!

[@aleksandarkanizaj]

@@SamVBikes thanks for the advice will definitely try the rally mode. :) My SAS is on street tyres and lives in sport mode. I'm based in Northamptonshire, if your ride outs are taking you this way or need company for a day's ride let me knwo. :) Merry Christmas 🎅

[@SamVBikes]

No problem! Ahh not too far from me then. I'll keep the channel updated if I plan ride outs! Have a good one!

[@WarbergOfficial]

Great review Sam! Could you tell me your opinon about the fuel consumption. Not that it really cares for a bike like this but just to be safe, to be safe. Keep safe! Merry xmas

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you very much! She's a thirsty beast when you're going for it. If I spend a day riding hard, I'll get 42/43mpg (uk gallon) and maybe 150-180 miles out a tank. On a run it will get around 62mpg+ and nearly 300 miles to a tank. Average riding I get around 55mpg and 220-250 miles from a tank. So way better than I thought for such a powerful bike. Ride safe too and have a lovely Christmas!

[@deployeddan]

I have a Superduke GT and it’s fun but not the most beautiful thing. However I really love how the SA looks. I guess I need to get to the dealer and test one. Have you been on a Superduke? And great video! Thanks for making me laugh with you.

[@SamVBikes]

I've got a feeling the face-lift they have just released for the GT is to buy them time to develop the next gen properly! If that is the case, wondering what they will do with the looks. Definitely advise giving this a go, absolutely love it!

[@brucecutts8841]

Done 6k on mine too with no issues and lots of grins - just fitted an Arrow sonora end can - great sound

[@SamVBikes]

Great! Glad you like the Sonora, mines on the way! Can't wait to get it

[@brucecutts8841]

@@SamVBikes well worth the wait - I did get an Akro and removed the DB killers but to be honest I thought it sounded crude and harsh. I had an Arrow on my previous gen 1290 and I love the tone and smaller design. I run it with the DB removed and it sounds just spot on. I have the aux lights fitted which are a great addition and just had new tyres - Michelin Road 5's.

[@SamVBikes]

Ahh good to know! I was sorely disappointed when I heard the Akra from factory. Sounded barely any louder than the stocker can! Road 5s are cracking tyres too! Good choice

[@stevenSmith-tz6iy]

Hi is the can much louder than standard as that's the only thing that let's it down.

[@brucecutts8841]

@@stevenSmith-tz6iy the Arrow is louder but not in a brutal anti social way. It has a growl and snarl to it that brings out the best of the V twin.

[@perryburns6515]

Nice Sam! Need me a test ride. Have you ridden the multi V4 out of interest?

[@SamVBikes]

Not yet! My last two attempts were shut down by lockdown so will give it a go as soon as I can!

[@oztursen]

great content Sam. how did you install the gopro camera behind the tft screen? just got the same bike myself and trying to figure that out. thanks in advance!

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! I have a Gopro mount on the plastic behind the screen, with a RAM mount arm coming up and over the screen. Theres a really nice flat section which is almost horizontal. It's a faff to get it in there but is really neat when it is!

[@geovannieabella4537]

Mine is at 2k mileage, I love the bike, the only problem i had was the high speed wobble at 180kph and above, still in progress on sorting it out. I have balanced the wheel and takeoff handguards for testing.

[@SamVBikes]

I was going to suggest wheel balancing. The other thing I've heard that solves that is raising the forks in the triple clamps. I think mine are above 5mm above the upper triple clamp and I don't have an issue

[@geovannieabella4537]

@@SamVBikes so what are all that you have done to eliminate the wobble? If you have it

[@SamVBikes]

I didn't have it with mine but have seen people talking about it in forums. Wheel balancing, uneven handguards, raising forks and one guy said having a topbox on the back caused it for him. My front wheel gets very light and reactive at high speed but I bump the preload up to 80% on the rear which helps that

[@geovannieabella4537]

@@SamVBikes thanks for the infos

[@Lighthouse_Rides]

@@SamVBikes raising the triple clamps or lowering? I have heard of people dropping up to 15/20mm on previous model.

[@michaelmclarney1994]

Hi Sam, it's good to hear you have had no issues with it so far. I tried one at the show, the superduke and 890 options and couldn't touch the ground on them ☹️

[@SamVBikes]

Cheers mate! The rear adjustable preload on the SAS is a dream when it comes to getting the pegs down. I think the PP seats are slightly more sculpted too which helps!

[@michaelmclarney1994]

@@SamVBikes I was that far off, I would need to sit on the frame 😂

[@SamVBikes]

😂😂 take the seat off... Stock KTM seats aren't known for comfort ha

[@michaelmclarney1994]

@@SamVBikes 😂😂😂

[@ScragNath]

I tested a 2019 SAS and it came nowhere near good enough for me to swap my BMW R1200 GSA. Now in 2022, KTM have finally done it and I take ownership this week.

[@SamVBikes]

The difference between the two generations is what finally did it for me too! Congratulations on the new bike!!

[@Spyros.ts13]

jealous :DD I'm a very happy owner of a 690 sm The bike I would get (if I could afford it) is this one (Maybe 890 adv r, too.But if would feel like a compromise, sweet one, but compromise non the less) Cheers from Athnes, Greece

[@SamVBikes]

Haha! 690 sm is a great bike! That worry about compromise is why I went for this. The 890 is an awesome bike, but I always wondered if I would have wanted this after a year and regretted buying the 890 haha! Thanks for watching!

[@Spyros.ts13]

@@SamVBikes My pleasure!

[@hermannschmidt9788]

The bike has an undocumented feature: a brake assistant! When the ACC is activated, even without a speed set, it still continuously monitors the situation in front, and when it thinks that it is getting tight (slow or standing car getting close - maybe 4 meters or so), it preloads the brake. The lever is then much harder than normal, which can come as a surprise and lead to heavier (read: jerkier) braking than planned. Nevertheless, I love that the machine is taking care of me. I keep the ACC always on.

[@SamVBikes]

Yes! I tested this in my first ride review of the bike and it took me by surprise that it actually started braking for me! The auto-acceleration with the radar cruise, and overtaking increase in revs is really useful too!

[@hermannschmidt9788]

@@SamVBikes The ACC is so cool. Boring, crowded highways? I snap into the queue and relax. The KTM does everything for me, smooth and vigilant.

[@SamVBikes]

Agreed! It makes those long trips absolutely effortless. I love it!!

[@richardnorris7302]

Just got mine, really excellent bike but getting some wind blast, what's that screen you have with the adjustable top part?

[@SamVBikes]

Congratulations on the new bike! It's the stock screen but I have a Puig Clip On visor. Makes an enormous difference! You can definitely get them cheaper than this one, but some aren't amazing. Try to get similar width to the screen itself and you should be good! I ride with my visor up 90% of the time

[@fredh4641]

Curiuos about the negatives, when can we expect that video? Cheers!

[@SamVBikes]

This Sunday at 6pm!

[@sircleancorp]

Do you ever think to buy a blind spot radar? I saw some with alert on rear mirror and single sensor, pretty expensive to be aftermarket, do you know the ktm sells the kit?

[@SamVBikes]

I don't have one but my dad has the Innovv system. There's a video more recently on my channel. Really good bit of kit and my discount code works on that too if you're interested. Not super expensive

[@NorrieChristie]

Having a wee nosey through the videos cause my 2020 is away now and I pick up my 2022 this week ( up Scotland ) Side question though for you how do you like the adventure helmet at private airstrip speeds ? 😂 what helmet do you have on here? Looks good! If you ever are up in Scotland again stop me a PM and I’ll point out some good loops. I’m 30 mins from the green welly 🤘

[@SamVBikes]

Very jealous that you live where you do! Haha! I don't have any issues with the helmet (Arai Tour X4) on the private roads. On a naked bike or sports bike it does pull a bit with the wind buy on the SAS, I barely notice it!

[@NorrieChristie]

@@SamVBikes thanks for that! I’ll keep it up the top of my list to try on. Aye I’m lucky to have all this on my door step and we often do the NC 500 in a day camping in Inverness and go right round. I mean it when I say any time you fancy heading up this way there’s loads of good roads we know of so just give me a shout

[@SamVBikes]

Very jealous! Would love to have that on my door step. I might take you up on that at some point. Need to come back up and do the Hebrides and Skye/Mull too

[@beverleynorth4914]

Hi How tall are you. What screen have you gone with. Is it stable ...noisy. Do you look through it or over it. I’m thinking of going from naked to bike with more protection. Just don’t want to end up getting bad turbulence, buffeting, noise from screen Stay safe

[@SamVBikes]

Hi Beverly, I'm 5ft9, so around 175cm? I think. The stock screen isn't amazing for buffeting so I have added the clip on screen. With the clip on screen I still look over the screen and can ride with my visor open no issue at all. Barely any wind in my face. There is a huge amount of weather protection due to the side of the front end so will be a lot better than a naked. I have a 1500 mile review earlier on my channel which runs through a few of those bits which might be worth watching if you're interested. Thanks for watching and ride safe!

[@xJadenx22]

Great video. I’m torn between this, the GS and the Tiger. Do you have to take the bike back to the dealer to reset the service reminder?

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! I believe you do have to yes, but I think that's the same with the GS. Most of these style bikes have an online service history. I wasn't given a service book or handbook when I bought it!

[@blade1535]

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[@blade1535]

Service reset video

[@JaySalvoUK]

Ey'up Sam, Just wondering did you try the Adventure R before buying or since, just wondered how the two compared?

[@SamVBikes]

Hey! I didn't no! I love the look of the R, but I'm not massively gifted in the height department so having the semi active suspension being able to lower that rear preload helped. Plus a grand more for manual suspension and no radar cruise made no sense to me! I will get around to riding one, but I assume on the road, have the 19 inch front wheel instead of 21inch will help handling

[@JaySalvoUK]

@@SamVBikes thanks for replying, I tried the GSA, Africa Twin with DCT and the SAS back to back in September. The SAS was on another level performance wise but the seat kept dropping and I had the same gripe as everyone about the indicator switch. I thought i'd wait till next March now and see if they sort the seat as the dealer said they are aware and a fix is imminent. I'll test ride the R and S back to back before ordering if all the reports remain as they are now regarding reliability. In my head I fancy being Chris Birch but in reality I'm more Boon. Look forward to more vids. Ta 👍

[@SamVBikes]

Ahh interesting that you found the seat issue too! I haven't found that but I never had the seat in the higher position (I'm a short ass). A few people have been chatting to me about it and KTM have a fix in the pipe so hopefully that gets sorted ASAP. The indicators you get used to but it definitely bugged me until I found the knack of cancelling it! Haha I'd love to be able to ride like Birch

[@oldgrowler]

What's it like for engine heat? The previous model was known for getting rather warm and I had a quick test ride on this model today and it started to get quite warm after only a short test ride but it was nearly brand new and only had about 30 miles one it so I presume once it's bedded in it might not get as warm. What's your experience?

[@SamVBikes]

Its definitely a lot better than the previous model. After a lot of riding it does get warm, but its never something I'm aware of if that makes sense - never sitting on the bike thinking this is hot. The twin radiators push hot air out in front of your legs so you rarely feel it, where the last bike had the hot air come out underneath you. Hope that helps

[@oldgrowler]

@@SamVBikes cheers Sam. I thought it was probably just because engine was tight and not yet run in.

[@SamVBikes]

It definitely gets better as time goes on! Thanks for watching

[@Carlnewman68]

So a quick question , what are the service costs on your girl , I’m on the gsa 2021 , and they are every year or 6000 miles and not cheap at all , I’m loving your videos about your grasshopper, could you send me what model are you on

[@SamVBikes]

Thank you! It's the 1290 Super Adventure S. They have 2 models, the S and R. S being the more road focused with electronic suspension and radar cruise. I'd assume it wouldn't be a huge amount difference in cost for servicing although I've heard BMW servicing is a pretty penny, but the intervals on this are every 9000 miles. My first 600 mile service cost me about £90 which was part of the deal I pushed, then the first service at 9.6k was around 300 if I remember correctly. I'm 14k miles in at the moment so my next one is at 18k miles. That's the valve clearance one so I'd assume around 400/500 at least.

[@Carlnewman68]

@@SamVBikes I’m laughing out loud at you laughing, so you ever keep your front wheel on the ground, your such a bad boy , and make me feel like a pussy ? Your ridding my next bike , after 3 GSA which I love just because it can do it , you have convinced me that the KTM brings out the inner beast of us boys , just watching you ride the adventure bike weekend , and last is the orange and black tent yours , how cool if it is , matching your bike

[@SamVBikes]

Hahaha! It brings out my inner child! Doesn't matter if I'm doing 5mph or 50.. its hilarious! My camping gear was bought all prior to owning this bike... and it's mostly black and orange! I think I subcontiously knew my fate!

[@jonelvidge9191]

Do you use your bike to commute Sam? That seems quick mileage since I last saw you at BS in St Evenage

[@SamVBikes]

I do bud. Roughly 2 days a week but have done the Wales trip too. Racking the miles up pretty quick!

[@jonelvidge9191]

@@SamVBikes SuperdukeGT gen3 for me atm. But I took out a Ducati Multistrada v4s recently from Cambridge Ducati- awesome…. Blows the SAS into a cocked hat - apart from a very large price tag

[@SamVBikes]

I'd be tempted with the Gen 3 GT but this new release seemed to be more of a face-lift rather than a proper gen 3. Wonder if they will release another with radar and other bits too. Havent ridden the MultiV4 yet. Heard good things about it. 19k odd starting price for one with radar cruise.. and near enough 22k for one spec'd similar to mine!

[@jonelvidge9191]

@@SamVBikes yes, def worth a go, fit and finish is superb, a friend in Hatfield is ordering a Pikes Peak version, not short of a Bob or 2 and the quickest OAP I’ve ever ridden with

[@SamVBikes]

Haha lucky guy! Saw the PP version at Motorcycle Live and it was a gorgeous bit of kit. Couldn't fit my phone in the phone charging slot though!

[@SPChapman]

Hi Sam - I looked at other videos and cant see anything but how do you mount the go pro behind the display?

[@SamVBikes]

It was a GoPro sticky mount on the plastic behind the TFT, then a ram mount off that. Really clean set up isn't it!

[@SPChapman]

@@SamVBikes I must admit I had not thought of putting a GoPro there and it looks great there - I want to mount a GPS there though :) I have the Garmin XT on the KTM mount and it is wobble city :) - I don't like the Tourtech bracket as I feel it brings the unit too far forward and over the screen - I looked at the Rottweiler mount but no stock in Aus - they want way too much money to ship it - then I was watching more of your videos and went whoa hang on :) - But I don't know if the sticky mount will be strong enough - Thanks for the reply.

[@SamVBikes]

Yeah its annoying! I loved that mount but I've put the Touratech mount and lockable case there now so the GoPro had to move. I need to find a way to get it back there. Wondering if I could put it above the Garmin without it looking like a tower block! Maybe I'll have to buy a 3D printer!

[@natureone2347]

Witch Helmet is dit? Lg from Germany 😎

[@SamVBikes]

Arai Tour X4 👍🏼

[@paulh4943]

Does it also wobble at around 45mph when you let the handlebars loose? Mine does that and also veers to the right

[@SamVBikes]

It did do that when I put these tyres on. I rebalanced the front wheel, raised the forks in the triple clamp a bit and that seems to have solved it. A few people on forums saying it happens when they have a topbox fitted which is weird!

[@paulh4943]

@@SamVBikes mine is stock without any cases, topbox or different parts. Full stock.

[@SamVBikes]

@@paulh4943 That's odd! Are you running stock tyres too? If so, I'd say its either balancing of the wheels (Maybe worth getting it done at a shop for machine accuracy), the fork height in the triple clamps. The other thing I found on a forum after your first comment was talking about rear wheel alignment, so maybe worth giving that a shot too

[@iankiff69]

Buntingford bends?

[@SamVBikes]

Yes around that area!

[@philwoods2534]

is that a genuine KTM windscreen diffuser and does it interfere with your vison?...

[@SamVBikes]

Its a Puig one, one of the widest clip-ons they make. I still look over it, but only just

[@philwoods2534]

@@SamVBikes Thanks Sam, I'm having mine friday and have heard of buffeting....a few have mentioned Puig, so I'll assess and get one if needed...best wishes.

[@SamVBikes]

Makes a big difference! Congrats on the new bike! Safe riding

[@percusski]

What's all this stuff I keep reading about re a wobble when decelerating on these bikes, and additionally when a top box is installed?

[@SamVBikes]

Yeah I noticed handlebar shake too but only with a top box. Doesn't do it without that on. My Tracer 700 did exactly the same thing. Not sure if its just turbulence caused by the top box when the preload is set too low and there's not enough weight over the front wheel. I dropped the forks in the triple-clamps about 5mm and it seemed to help massively. It's also exacerbated by the heavily worn tyres too

[@percusski]

@@SamVBikes good to know as am thinking of pulling the trigger on one of these bikes..over all I'm guessing a trouble free bike?

[@SamVBikes]

Yes bud! I'm nearly 24k miles in and basically not an issue. Ride it almost every day! I stuck this message in a chat on FB of a guy asking about issues in the market. Hope that helps! "A few issues when they first came out as you'd expect with a new model. Seats slipping off high settings for example, but most have been resolved now. You get the odd quality issue, and of course there are the "Friday afternoon build bikes". Some dealers forget to turn on both fuel taps too after a service, so you get the odd story of bikes randomly dying like they have run out of fuel with 140mile range for example. Simple to turn back on I think a lot of the issues are related to ownership such as a dead battery from lack of riding, switch gear seals go from people who have a real thing for pressure washing everything etc. Not to say some don't have faults but look after it, you should be fine I'm around 24k miles in, nearly 2 years ownership and had nothing major. Worst thing was the mirror glass came away from the mirror backing so it rattled - KTM replaced under warranty. Get the odd 'preload/MTC' error if I start it before it's done it's start-up procedure etc. Nothing that stops me starting and riding the bike Best thing I've ever bought and still wouldn't swap it for anything"

[@percusski]

@@SamVBikes ok thanks that's great to know.. where on facebook btw?

[@SamVBikes]

There's a UK Super Adventure owners group, and a EU group too

[@Motoandy83]

How does it handle in twisties???

[@SamVBikes]

Far better than it should for its size! Stick it in sport more, jack the rear preload up and it's basically an oversized superduke

[@markstrawbridge9133]

it's not rare it's just all the ktm's are in the garage getting fixed!!!! 🤣🤣

[@SamVBikes]

Haha! Mind you... I know 2 people with S1000XR's that have spent more time getting issues fixed than they have spent riding them! Luck of the draw I guess! Hoping KTM are better than they used to be!