"Goblins at #2, surely not!" *sees #1* "Understandable, have a nice day"
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, I thought of you!! 😂
@senyormort3 жыл бұрын
For this reason third party teams are so rewarding: you pick the 16 players team with all positionals and start playing with your full power (sometimes you are short of linemen but you can play arround that fairly easily)
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
Exactly Glorfindel! Buuut most of them are still twice the price or more of GW haha! 😁
@senyormort3 жыл бұрын
Plus, buying teams that are not released yet in the new edition is not recommended, because it's bound to get modifications on the roster
@BrickworksDK3 жыл бұрын
@@BoneheadPodcast They're rather expensive, yes. But when you consider that they give you a full team with all positionals and sometimes even a couple of big guys... Well... It's not really that bad, in my opinion.
@dcruize50392 жыл бұрын
@@BoneheadPodcast Some of the 3D printed teams are nice and cheap though - I've just picked up an Amazon team for £21.50 inc postage. 4x Blitzers, 2x Throwers, 2x Catchers, 8x Linewomen.
@nicksurename53922 жыл бұрын
Honourable mention for Dark elves needing two boxes for their blitzers.
@BoneheadPodcast2 жыл бұрын
We don't talk about the GW Dark Elf team... I'm sure I still have one of those leg-spikes in my hand 😂😂😂
@Bobrob1597 Жыл бұрын
Also the assassin is FW and FW now is like $100 per model lol
@Stormeris3 жыл бұрын
Kitbashing together Chaos Renegades is definitely something i have on my bucketlist. I want to build it out completely out of AoS units, using Warcry warbands as the humans, Rockguts as the Trolls, some Ogor as the Ogre, get one of the Island of Blood Rat Ogres and a Clan rat, maybe Dark Elf Corsair as the Elf and maybe one of those Kruleboyz as the Orc and then slap a bunch of mutations onto them. But... I'm still waiting for my Undead team box to arrive, i've ordered it over a month ago, but the bloody covids and brexits made the shipment disappear somewhere in the warp.
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
Noooo! Lost BB Post is the worst!! But exactly! That's exactly what makes Pact so exciting, you can really customise it! Challenging for first timers, but when you're looking for your next big project... It's perfect!!
@michaelklump46193 жыл бұрын
What about Snotlings? I bought two packs (consider Riotous Rookies), two Trolls and literally every Star Player I will take with them, which is every Star Player I can take with them. ;-)
@jackthemayor25185 ай бұрын
Nurgle deserves an honorable mention, the rottspawn is a forgeworld model and you only get 2 pestigors in a box but you get 4 bloaters so buying a second box is horribly impractical outside of converting a star player model.
@Ryan-The-Super-Lion4 ай бұрын
Honestly Nurgle is a complete one box team - they don't need more than 2 Gores or the rotspawn. I start 4 bloats 1 pestigore 6 (or 7) rotters 3 rerolls. I use a human linemen with a black base marker to alter him to rotter 7. Only thing is you can get players other teams so that's and issue so i use regular humans with a white base marker or if the opponent cool with it their model with base marker. .
@FlimFlame3 жыл бұрын
Good fun listing the one box frustration list, I still remember the sinking feeling when you realize one box is not enough, also, 7's does make this easier to field a team
@robcorrigan26383 жыл бұрын
This is a spot on list Ben (and great for people wanting to get into BB for first time). You’re not wrong about the Renegades - I went around the 1 box issue by ordering the Greebo Malice team (which only took a couple weeks to ship to Australia) and yes I grabbed a Witch Elf to use as the Dark Elf so it will look different enough from the other Marauders. I also made sure to pick up their Mutations pack so I had bits to create a few mutated players because, well, it’s why you play Chaos in the first place right?
@Goliiith803 жыл бұрын
I’m just getting into Blood Bowl and very much enjoy your channel and podcast after I found it a couple months ago. I think I’m just going to play Sevens because it’ll make almost any single box ready for the smaller games.
@syteanric3 жыл бұрын
So glad i play Necro. Just buy 1 box and go!
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
Necro are just epic!
@colinmorrison51192 жыл бұрын
Last time I was playing Renegades, I was using old 2nd edition models, 3rd party models like the Heresy Miniatures Ogres and cyclops as a Troll proxy, plastics from 3rd edition, and most of all, the limited edition Chaos All-Star models that I scored on eBay for a song. Scale wise they don't match up at all, as 2nd edition models were 28mm heroic and we're now more like 34mm truescale... ...but you're absolutely right, the modeling options are limitless, and perfect for someone with a huge, piecemeal and ancient collection like myself.
@lockdown68623 жыл бұрын
Underword Denizens are missing. Surely they are worse then humans in the one box event. You need Snotlings, a RatOger and Ideas for Mutations.
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
I really did consider Underworld! But I think they land a little better than Humans - humans need a big guy and some small guys, Underworld do too, but Humans also need a second box for the positionals!
@batteredwarrior2 жыл бұрын
*Asterisks. "Asterix" is a comic book Gaul. 😉
@BrickworksDK3 жыл бұрын
Ermmm... Is there even a box for Chaos Renegades? Anyway... I agree on both of the stunty teams. Not only because you need a lot of extra stuff to really make them work, but because they work rather poorly even with a full lineup. I mean... We are talking stunties, right...? It seems to me that something's gone horribly wrong at Specialist Games. The boxes are clearly designed to be as cheap as possible with two identical sprues, and to be supplemented by booster packs. But most teams never got a booster, and the few boosters we've seen have been rather odd. They can't even keep star players in stock, and now they're doing mercenaries instead...???
@allenbenningfield38653 жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like this is going to be 5. Goblins 4. Goblins 3. Goblins 2. Goblins 1. Goblins?! Love my little scabby boys, but it was a pain getting a team together.
@allenbenningfield38653 жыл бұрын
Well, I cannot believe I did not think about Chaos Renegades. I have been sort of planning a team for the last week and running into all these issues.
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
Haha, Goblins are definitely the poster boys of difficult 😁 But starting a Renegades team from scratch - that's a crusade 😍 When you get started - don't forget to update us on WIP Wednesday!!
@allenbenningfield38653 жыл бұрын
@@BoneheadPodcast Will do. I owe you some updates on my goblin team. I have managed several changes in the last month. Glad you are back in the swing of videos.
@Losdadosdeciden Жыл бұрын
So true about the journey lineman for WE XD
@triplepow3 жыл бұрын
Anything that really needs a big guy
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
And a few extra boxes from Forge World 😁😁
@senyormort3 жыл бұрын
There are teams that doesn't need the big guy like Dwarves and Chaos
@triplepow3 жыл бұрын
@@BoneheadPodcast yep that’s a double or triple of the price! Nope thanks
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
Printer go brrrt 😉
@triplepow3 жыл бұрын
@@BoneheadPodcast for the price of a full GW renegades team (not second hand!) a printer is a good deal
@oliverwallington46572 жыл бұрын
I think the human team defintly deserves some special attention of the fact they are "THE" beginning team
@BoneheadPodcast2 жыл бұрын
Well, they just got a Tier adjustment for Constructed! The team is great with just two human boxes, but that Ogre is always such a tempting upgrade!!
@oliverwallington46572 жыл бұрын
@@BoneheadPodcast How could you turn down the ogre, the "staple" big guy in my book whom I compare all others against
@BoneheadPodcast2 жыл бұрын
@@oliverwallington4657 And rightly so 😁 the true King of Big Guys!
@martinwakefield21403 жыл бұрын
How is Nurgle not on this list? All 4 pestigors are mandatory if you want any chance of winning or at least scoring.
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
Hey Martin! Nurgle are absolutely up there!! I had them bunched with Orcs - need the second box, but don't *Need* the big guy to start! Nurgle are having a real tough Season 😅
@Apeshower Жыл бұрын
I assume for a more casual experience all these are still good? I have just had this bought me and immediately want a couple of other boxes just for variety. I have watched your other video on the best teams but fancied an eleven one…… great vids and I am so up for this game. Played it back in the late 80’s early nineties on the polystyrene board.
@packersfanforlife7903 Жыл бұрын
I'm planning on only ever playing sevens. One box barring a few big guys does for most teams as you're only allowed x4 positionals in the entire team and a maximum of 11 players on each team. Most boxes come with x6 linemen so that means I have scope for a big guy and four positionals that come in the same box. In sevens you only realistically need x2 blitzers on teams who can pass. This is why I prefer sevens, more funny, a lot quicker and possible to have an entire team in a box.
@alexgeddes32903 жыл бұрын
Any recommendations for goblin secret weapons? Particularly chainsaw and bomber.
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, there are some great 3rd party manufacturers - Greebo and Willy's miniatures spring to mind! Or with a little greenstuff and some 40k Ork bitz you could have something pretty quick!!
@xSATSx2 жыл бұрын
Renegades (and other amalgam teams) aren't really intended as starter teams, but perfect once you have other teams that make them up already. Once I've painted my halflings, I can take some of my dwarves and humans and have an OWA team ready made (why I paint them all in the same team colours...)
@Apeshower Жыл бұрын
2 ogre teams, use a spare ogre for humans and some gnoblars as halflings……? Gives a nearly full human team plus full ogre tea. And a spare ogre for chaos chosen.
@crumbum23 жыл бұрын
During the Halfling segment you suggest there are better and cheaper options out there for treemen that don't come from FW. Do you have an episode covering this? Currently we use proxies but I would like to have actual treemen that are reasonably priced.
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
Yo!! These are my favourite: ttcombat.com/products/halfling-treemen?_pos=1&_sid=602293bbe&_ss=r Sadly they’re 6 in a pack now, but for £20!! That’s all your Trees and Deeproot, and you can also use them as the basis for a Treeman based ogre team!
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
These are the trees that we used in Sevens Super Series 2!
@gilesholtby17022 жыл бұрын
How did Skaven not make this list?
@mikehawkins3463 жыл бұрын
Don't forget OWA, they can be pricey getting into as well.
@Stormeris3 жыл бұрын
Isn't there a boxset for OWA that comes with half of a human team, half of a dwarf team and 3 halflings to boot? You end up having full team positionals (with 1 extra Dwarf and Halfling) and only missing one Big Guy. It's actually a really decent box.
@mikehawkins3463 жыл бұрын
@@Stormerisif so I can't find it
@Stormeris3 жыл бұрын
@@mikehawkins346 "Middenheim Maulers" the box was called, i swear i've seen them for sale relatively recently.
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they dropped back in Spike 10 I think, same time as Underworld!! It's a very good value box, just add the big guy of your choice and you are away!! 😁
@nagarion3 жыл бұрын
Forge world ball & chain, chainsaw and bomber are no longer avaiable to purchase:*(
@3ggh3ad2 жыл бұрын
IF they arn't going to be playing in a GW store. id point them to greebo or other 3rd party teams for most of these boxes id put dark elves in number six (only 2 blitzers again you really need the 4)
@00pugsly482 жыл бұрын
Im most bitter about the goblin team. People love goblins because they like to cheat. So GW saying oh this goblin team play by the rules is such a lame attempt to hide that they just want to rip you off and make you have to buy from FW etc. it’s a massive slap to the face
@Bobrob1597 Жыл бұрын
At least the new teams are packaged better than these.
@Demolitiondude3 жыл бұрын
Oh. Per gw ip guidelines kitbash, 3rd party, and 3d printed is prohibited to banned.
@Stormeris3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure kitbashing is allowed if you're using GW's bits
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
Haha, don't ban us 😁
@Demolitiondude3 жыл бұрын
That would fall under their bulletpoint on hobby news.
@Stormtrooper17873 жыл бұрын
So far only at Warhammer World, but I expect to see it trickle down.
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
Luckily the BB World is pretty rogue 😁 so unless a tourney or league is at an actual GW store, I think we’ll always be ok with 3rd party and prints! 🥳🥳
@bradp64523 жыл бұрын
I think orcs are worse than humans since shifting 2 lineman to blitzers is easier than 2 to blitzers and 2 to black orcs.
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
That a great point Brad!! But for me the Ogre is far more important to the humans than the Troll for the orcs!
@bradp64523 жыл бұрын
@@BoneheadPodcast yeah but you might already have a spare ogre from that extra box of ogres you bought to round out that team.
@ThanatoselNyx3 жыл бұрын
If you have BB 2016 and a Black Orc box, or BB 2020 and the regular Orcs, the old Orc BOBs can become Blitzers and take 4 new Black Orcs as Big Uns. You also get some Gobbos too. So two boxes and two full teams, sorted.
@pewpewplunkett872 жыл бұрын
2 boxes of humans? These are rookie numbers!
@BoneheadPodcast2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry - dungeon Bowl upped those numbers haha!!
@rorystockley59692 жыл бұрын
'Asterisks' is not pronounced 'asterixes'
@Demolitiondude3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't all the teams be the worst team for needing a second box.
@BoneheadPodcast3 жыл бұрын
There's the worst... then the worst of the worst!! 😁