Top 7 Characters RESISTANT to Powercreep in 3.X Honkai Star Rail

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@EODGamerSG
@EODGamerSG 6 күн бұрын
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@mechaneji
@mechaneji 6 күн бұрын
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@7HFEstorque
@7HFEstorque 4 күн бұрын
He also got that pro lighting set up
@mechpolaris598
@mechpolaris598 6 күн бұрын
still remember the day we thought mono quantum seele would dominate. I was coping with my 1.0 delulu self lmao
@Platinumsnake2024
@Platinumsnake2024 5 күн бұрын
I was going to build mono quantum team (I don't have sparkle) but they straight up powercreep seele & sw, with so much HP inflation, OMG even aventurine just straight up better sustain than fuxuan... this power creep kinda disappointing ngl remind me of HI3rd
@estebanmn6620
@estebanmn6620 5 күн бұрын
If you want your characters to stay relevant, you have to invest in eidolons and lightcones 🤔
@xmaslieder
@xmaslieder 5 күн бұрын
I always regretted getting JY on launch and was jealous of people's cool Seele/Silver Wolf teams but look at us now
@kylenunez2820
@kylenunez2820 5 күн бұрын
​@@estebanmn6620unfortunately, Seele's Eidolons are actual garbage, the only decent investment in Mono Quantum is probably an E2S1 Sparkle, even then, Seele's Multipliers just can't keep up with the HP Inflation, it's quite unfortunate honestly
@stego-
@stego- 5 күн бұрын
who tf thought that was gonna work???? mono-quantum wouldve been a payoff if another quantum dps actually came out, seele was never gonna cut it. (plus, seele never actually worked well with mono-quantum because she was too reliant on bronya anyways)
@Kiwipizza
@Kiwipizza 6 күн бұрын
Im out here dodgeing 3.X leaks like Hoyo dodges DOT units.
@zigitj9163
@zigitj9163 6 күн бұрын
I'm still sad because if I didn't invest in dot...Kafka and black swan...I can only imagine what my account would look like
@okagaca
@okagaca 6 күн бұрын
@@zigitj9163it will pay off eventually, just believe
@neonex6590
@neonex6590 6 күн бұрын
@@zigitj9163 they should add a dot character who deals bonus max hp dot which would make it viable against the gigantic hp pooled enemies now
@WanderingPoro_217
@WanderingPoro_217 6 күн бұрын
​@@neonex6590 one thing's for sure, they ain't gonna do that in 3.x, since the meta will be heavily focused on remembrance and hp manipulation.
@Suhrvivor
@Suhrvivor 6 күн бұрын
Bro 3.x is gonna be revolved around DoT.
@BaraKingu
@BaraKingu 6 күн бұрын
Not mentioning adventurine for 3.0 is crazy !! Especially considering he gives more shield with memosprites and addition of wide team attacks
@hellsrecon2758
@hellsrecon2758 5 күн бұрын
Ngl i suspect 3.0 is gonna be more have a decent amount of hp fluctuaters like Blade (vampirism is what I call it). We might even see 0 sustain comps with rememberance and Destructions
@BaraKingu
@BaraKingu 5 күн бұрын
@ well thats copium 0 sustain.. but he included every 5s except luocha and adventurine which dosent make sense
@hellsrecon2758
@hellsrecon2758 5 күн бұрын
@@BaraKingu Well if we play into the idea of a vampirism or hp orientated meta we might see teams or units who drain and heal themselves. Who knows maybe the DPS with the hp drain might sac his hp to give it to others who are below 50% or smt so instead of blade where it dissapears it gets transferred. Its an Idea and the hp that goes to waste is converted to dmg. Its an idea. I dont want to discredit the idea of it happening. I think sustains will still be used but i kinda suspect one comp to be 0 sustain (not in a 0 cycle format) because how the teams work. But overall most teams will still use a sustain if that makes sense
@GhostDraggon_
@GhostDraggon_ 5 күн бұрын
Aventurine is the KING of sustain currently and I'm probably never going to replace him even if he gets powercrept but what if there are Remembrance characters that benefit from their memosprites dying? 👀
@BaraKingu
@BaraKingu 5 күн бұрын
@ depends on what you call benefits because i think in terms of damage it being alive is probably better, its more of a counterpoint to avoid the character being garbage when his memospite is dead since the character mechanic revolves around his talent etc, i mean its possible but in terms of sustain Adventurine got buffed with added character and more wide team damage so he's probably the less likely to be powercreeped even more since we know almost no preservation or abundance character are coming soon
@wadewilliams3046
@wadewilliams3046 6 күн бұрын
I wish they would make dispelling enemy units more necessary in the game to make luocha and pela more rewarding to use
@Reverie_xo
@Reverie_xo 6 күн бұрын
Yeah it's quite funny how the vast majority of buffs that enemies apply that you'd want to dispel are unremovable, leaving you with either nothing at all or only negligible debuffs to remove.
@wrath98
@wrath98 5 күн бұрын
Please god no lol
@ladyhdwastaken
@ladyhdwastaken 2 күн бұрын
The mara-struck soldiers are good enough for me honestly it saves so much time 😆
@Glast04
@Glast04 6 күн бұрын
Kinda surprrised for the lack of a ruan mei there. She can play into basically any team archetype in the game, and is always at worst in the top 5 of the best characters for said team. Break basically doesn't exist without Ruan Mei, simply because of her weakness break efficiency, but also ultimate that delays the enemies from recovering, and grants res pen. On top of that she also gives speed unconditionally. I think Ruan Mei will probably not be best in slot in many teams for the coming meta, but she will remain a very versatile support, and practically a must for any break team.
@ixirion
@ixirion 5 күн бұрын
well he said he is considering her Fudge and Lingsha. so he selected the least viable one and farms comments. Imo Fudge will be most valuable unit cos its possible we will get a break niche support in the next half year.
@quansz
@quansz 5 күн бұрын
⁠@@ixirion*most viable
@658639613
@658639613 5 күн бұрын
Nah, she's not that mandatory for break/superbreak anymore...for Rappa, HMC+Fugue is generally better, and for Firefly, Ruan Mei+Fugue is practically the same as Fugue+HMC...only Ruan Mei is superior with BH. Also, RM is better in Firefly's team if the enemy has a toughness of 200+... To put it in perspective, before having or not having Ruan Mei was a 50% loss of damage xd
@hellsrecon2758
@hellsrecon2758 5 күн бұрын
@@quansz i think alot of people are still on the assumption break will be good. Lingsha is the most viable as she isnt solely tied to break and summon. While rest are tied to break and If i learned anything of dot it will be abandoned. Fugue was made so you can use RMC and not stuck with HMC
@estebanmn6620
@estebanmn6620 5 күн бұрын
Break is gonna start to rotate out, and the Next "general" harmony is gonna powercreep her
@flaregolt8890
@flaregolt8890 6 күн бұрын
I think the Erudition characters are the only ones unaffected by power creep. When looking at the enemies in the MoC, they all have high HP, making it impossible for older DPS characters to finish them before the cycle ends. Herta and Himeko, who were previously considered bad, have gained value thanks to PF, and even other Erudition characters benefit from this.
@ashy969
@ashy969 6 күн бұрын
Also, The Herta likely will want them on her team. Erudition will be one of the 3 paths in Amphoreus, Soo.... Lingsha might be summon but not the way the 3.x summons will work (based on the Livestream). So I have my doubts but okay, she is a good sub DPS and abundance so... Maybe (although I feel like the abundance role will be sometimes bypassed with a healer summon).
@HazZzel-
@HazZzel- 5 күн бұрын
Real. Even after Yunli and Boothill, my Argenti remains solid. In fact, with the new relics and Sunday he's better than ever
@cannibalman8175
@cannibalman8175 5 күн бұрын
So much for Kafka's supposed immunity to powercreep. Atp i wouldn't be surprised if the start of DOT meta is with the release of a straight up better Kafka😭
@Deme_Diora666
@Deme_Diora666 5 күн бұрын
More likely it’ll be a black swan replacement for kafka team cause Kafka is a weird design already I don’t think they’d do it again
@HazZzel-
@HazZzel- 5 күн бұрын
​@@Deme_Diora666you say that but Fugue took the super break mechanic from HMC. I wouldn't be surprised if they made a physical Kafka
@Deme_Diora666
@Deme_Diora666 4 күн бұрын
@@HazZzel- they made fugue because hmc is a 4 star and this is their last chance to make real money off the mechanic before it gets replaced in the new metas of 3.x
@Ilikegames804
@Ilikegames804 4 күн бұрын
​@@Deme_Diora666 If we wanna make dot great again replacing Kafka is the way to go, her dot procs on skill being ST is literally what is holding dot back from greatness a blast dot proc would literally sky rocket them back to newer and higher heights. Black swan is already overpowered as a dot unit and can clear MOC comfortably without Kafka by using any of the other 4 star dot units the same however cannot be said for kafka herself
@natpat4094
@natpat4094 6 күн бұрын
the way sparkle got powercreeped instantly by sunday is sooo funny. he even outperforms her in her niche!
@ancalyme
@ancalyme 6 күн бұрын
She got powercrept by Robin in all her teams. And her 50% AA feels really bad
@blazikenfury8852
@blazikenfury8852 6 күн бұрын
@@ancalyme Sparkle atleast had the benefit of being able to played alongside Robin for hypercarries, and Bronya couldn't work there usually due to skill point issues but now Sunday took even that from her.
@NeverClimbing
@NeverClimbing 6 күн бұрын
​@@blazikenfury8852Bronya can bring up another harmony unit but Sunday cannot
@reversal3628
@reversal3628 6 күн бұрын
She escaped to IMPACT 3RD where at least one year still relevant
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw 5 күн бұрын
She was already outperformed in value after Robin.
@Esmegmor
@Esmegmor 6 күн бұрын
People praised Silverwolf a lot, and now she is ☠
@Sethstrat
@Sethstrat 6 күн бұрын
She’s really not lol
@17mikeToreno
@17mikeToreno 6 күн бұрын
@Galahad-n4d Speaking of HuoHuo, after Robin was released and I noticed their synergy, I realized that she would eventually have her own team. I remember having debates with Gallaher mains, trying to prove that HuoHuo would get another team with Robin even before Yunli’s team was released, as well as one more team in 3.0. Only after that will her lifecycle truly come to an end.
@lycerisrico8943
@lycerisrico8943 5 күн бұрын
People who pull the whole 4 5* limited units to make mono Quantum, and then easily powercrept by a single unit 6 months later: 💀💀💀
@Deme_Diora666
@Deme_Diora666 5 күн бұрын
@@lycerisrico8943this is always my biggest regret 😭, seele silver wolf and sparkle
@cianalcrez3693
@cianalcrez3693 5 күн бұрын
If only they made SW’s type application team wide instead of single unit she would’ve stayed relevant till now for all hyper-carry teams.
@tdof7217
@tdof7217 6 күн бұрын
We went from resistant to powercreep to resistant to powercreep for up to 7 patches (maybe) 💀
@Sirciel
@Sirciel 5 күн бұрын
Don't worry friend, thenext step is resistant to powercrept up to 3 patch (hopefully)
@noahi.1381
@noahi.1381 6 күн бұрын
As both a teambuilder AND casual, there are three major things that I've noticed that all characters in HSR rely on. SPEED ENERGY MECHANICS and DAMAGE AMPS SPEED is what made Ruan Mei withstand the test of time. To this day, she's the most consistent unit to provide a flat 10 SPD on your team, BY JUST EXISTING. Asta does this too, but it's locked behind her Ultimate. ENERGY MECHANICS are what made units like Feixiao and Acheron so fresh to play. They are what make Huohuo, Tingyun, and Sunday so flexible. They are what made Argenti and Yunli so appealing on their respective releases. DAMAGE AMPLIFICATION (DMG AMP for short) is what 2.X and future versions try to diversify. In 1.X, we received DMG AMPs in pure hypercarry comps. In 2.X and further, we received DMG AMPs in multipurpose sustains and establishing comps like FuA, Break, and the upcoming Summon gimmick. Units that cover all 3 of these things will be hard to powercreep no matter what.
@17mikeToreno
@17mikeToreno 6 күн бұрын
Everything is correct, but I would also add the mechanic of 100% Advance Forward. This mechanic ensured Seele’s long-lasting viability and will allow Bronya to continue being used, for example, in teams playing for 0 cycles.
@jerryeljeremy7790
@jerryeljeremy7790 6 күн бұрын
​@@17mikeTorenoI think "AV manipulation" is what ur looking for. Speed buff is one of them. And then 100% AA. Lastly 100-200% AV delay for enemies (which still doesn't exist yet in current roaster)
@Salientspeaker56
@Salientspeaker56 6 күн бұрын
Correction, ruan mei gives you 10% speed not a flat 10.
@hellsrecon2758
@hellsrecon2758 5 күн бұрын
@@Salientspeaker56 Yes but you're unlikely to be getting much more than 12-13 spd. from Ruan mei since not many people have 170 spd or 160 spd so rounding it down to 10
@Salientspeaker56
@Salientspeaker56 5 күн бұрын
@hellsrecon2758 true, that why I build my ff and lingsha at 160 so they are fast af. Enemies ain't going to get a turn that easily
@AoABlodhgarm
@AoABlodhgarm 6 күн бұрын
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@kyo-wm3wb
@kyo-wm3wb 6 күн бұрын
Agreed!
@trashraccoon2635
@trashraccoon2635 6 күн бұрын
"the only character that needs a lot of sp is imbibitor lunae" my man forgot the OG gambler, qingque. if dan heng IL drinks sp, qingque *guzzles* it, especially if you don't have eidolons. that aside, i do mostly agree with this, but i'm not sure how i feel about ruan mei not being put in the list at all. she's a very versatile support who can easily slot into any team, which in a way would make her resistant to powercreep. though i do understand why she would not be the top support pick, since we're shifting away from break meta to summon.
@wrath98
@wrath98 5 күн бұрын
My QQ has been killing it with Sunday, Sparkle and Fu Xuan. Also my FF team has been absolutely coping without Ruan Mei
@sorinamarcu5357
@sorinamarcu5357 6 күн бұрын
Congratulations on the sponsorship, EOD!!! Now, about video. I agree that they show some hints on what we should prepare, similar to break team where most is not all break units are weak to fire imaginary and physical (rappa firefly and boithill soecific elements) i think here we can also see this shift with ice quantum and imaginary. I also thing Aglaea will not be as relevant as people expect and hee powercreap will be at the courner and the only long run relevant character will be the herta but we will se
@lenasprototrap7281
@lenasprototrap7281 6 күн бұрын
I've been following you since 1.0. It's crazy how JY carried me since then. My boy Blade fell off, but JY with constant game powercreep stood tall thanks to indirect buffs.
@eminbulut7232
@eminbulut7232 6 күн бұрын
There's no character resistant to powercreep there are just a few that have more resilience against it... not a single dps is future proof and will never be
@Dhooparty
@Dhooparty 6 күн бұрын
So hyped for new remembrance units, Sunday + Robin core will be absolutely amazing
@unendingvoid
@unendingvoid 6 күн бұрын
I think you are right about putting Lingsha at 7, hell she might even swap with HuoHuo in my opinion given her sheer versatility and use cases. You can play her in follow up, she will soon be arguably the best sustain option for one of the 3.0 DPSes, she is bis sustain unit in break, she plays amazingly in Pure Fiction and Apocalyptic Shadow and you can even turn her into a Jade Driver or the main dps of her own team with Sunday/Fugue. While HuoHuo has seen major fall off recently when all the top dpses don't care about her energy utility, and her lower skill point positivity coupled with lower sustain capability than her peers That being said she will rise up to relevancy again in the dawn of 3.X but this lack of flexibility and power across the board is what holds her back from being that high in the futureproof list, imo. And Ruan Mei should be here instead of Sparkle. She has been kicked out of BiS in a few teams, but she has shown she stood the test of time firmly, and is inarguably the 1.X unit with the greatest value and would still do the most for your account if u were to pick her up now. Her kit is still very much insane even moving from 2.X into 3.X. Damage buffs, keeping enemies delayed, weakness break efficiency and all type res pen to name the notable ones. Sparkle, yeah, she does provide an abundance of skill points and is the only character to raise the maximum Skill Point count but so far we really haven't seen them lean into a need for that, and her futureproof strength has fallen into real slander and questioning ever since the bird siblings Robin and Sunday have come out back to back. They've effectively kicked her out of BiS nearly everywhere unless you have an E2 Sparkle comparing with E0 of those 2 in very specific scenarios. Sparkle I feel is just the most shafted of the limited harmony units. She has the weakest overall kit. A few things I could point out already is that her Light Cone is deceptively not big of a need on her, and that she is the only action advancer harmony that only does it at 50% and not a 100%, effectively putting her at a disadvantage from the get go. She does not have the same versatility as any of the others, her E1 is not even close to as good of an investment as Ruan Mei, Robin or Sunday, making her more expensive if you want to go vertical with her, and the 'niches' she is in are niches that are either not valued as much at the moment or are literally being accomplished better than her by other units. Ruan Mei meanwhile is still the most versatile support in the game, able to play into every single composition and archetype if needed, and is and has been the core of break/superbreak teams, which have been running rampant in the meta for a long time now. I expect them to take a backseat in 3.X but definitely not permanently, as break is a core part of the game. Even weakness locked enemies have gimmicks or conditions that make them playable. Even though E1S1 Fugue can replace her, you would much enjoy using them together and that doesn't account for the cost difference that an E0S0 Ruan Mei provides nearly the same, let alone if u were to grab her eidolon or more.
@lucassa5083
@lucassa5083 6 күн бұрын
The sheer ammount of energy that remembrance character are gonna want, make huohuo more solid than lingsha even though i dont like huohuo
@lovestruck3328
@lovestruck3328 6 күн бұрын
The thing about Lingsha… don’t most Break teams not even need a sustain? They have a lot of action delay already… and kill quick anyways. For that reason I’m not sure how needed she really is. Plus we have Gallagher.
@sense6472
@sense6472 6 күн бұрын
majored in yapping
@unendingvoid
@unendingvoid 6 күн бұрын
@@lucassa5083 I can see the argument for HuoHuo still. And maybe Aventurine as well. It all really depends what kind of characters they want to put out. Any situation where we want energy for the team (Aglaea) is going to be a net positive for HuoHuo's viability and value
@lucassa5083
@lucassa5083 5 күн бұрын
@@unendingvoid also if every new remembrance character is crazy fast like aglaea, then aventurine shield will quickly be undone
@sphong0610
@sphong0610 6 күн бұрын
I just started mid this year and got Acheron E0+Jingliu E0, Robin E0S1, lost 50/50 on FuZuan, missed 50/50 on Firefly, got Yunli E0S1 missed on HuoHuo (realized I shouldn't pull for everything and focus on characters I really need), and got Lingsha E1S1+RobinE1, I was just pulling characters and wasn't even watching youtube vids. I think I got lucky in terms of which characters I got as I had near 0 information on what was good or not. Next patch I want to be informed and plan ahead. I have over 300 pulls saved, originally for FF rerun and Fugue, but now saving even more for 3.x. These videos are great help for the future.
@Rj_xxiv
@Rj_xxiv 6 күн бұрын
If you have blade then hp support is coming in version 3 if you want to play remembrance meta pull sunday now as he will synergyse with 4 other units that will come in version 3 if you are willing to risk sunday and pull for firefly you can do that but make sure get at least sunday in minimum pulls because he will irreplaceable untill the end of 3.x
@Br43d
@Br43d 6 күн бұрын
Hey EOD, thanks for the video. I hope DoT comes again soon so I can see how strong the Kafka and Black Swan I got during 2.5 can be!
@howl9959
@howl9959 6 күн бұрын
robin is good for summon too btw, she can advance summons with her ult and give them full character buff.
@colgado693
@colgado693 6 күн бұрын
no she doesnt. what are you talking about
@TURB026
@TURB026 6 күн бұрын
@@colgado693 She will advance the new summons from Remembrance.
@mdswong
@mdswong 6 күн бұрын
@@colgado693 She can with Remembrance path lol
@Indian_gae_boii
@Indian_gae_boii 5 күн бұрын
@@colgado693 robin WILL welcome you into her world and you WILL like it
@amdclx4635
@amdclx4635 6 күн бұрын
heres to many more sponsor oppurtunities and to continued growth for your informative and highly underrated channel EOD
@Kai-sv4ej
@Kai-sv4ej 6 күн бұрын
no way, EOD getting sponsors now? bro entering his Raid Shadow Legends era
@InvasorJim101
@InvasorJim101 5 күн бұрын
I've been playing since day 1 and I follow you since you had around 3 videos in this channel :D HI
@InvasorJim101
@InvasorJim101 5 күн бұрын
And still I only have the break units- help
@ectoBiologist21
@ectoBiologist21 6 күн бұрын
All of Robins buffs, including her Ult work on Memosprites sooooo I hope you pulled her.
@xmode_tv
@xmode_tv 5 күн бұрын
As a Jade E1S1 believer, I am happy to say this video refilled my copium tanks.
@nadenadz925
@nadenadz925 2 күн бұрын
now with leaks coming out that she *might* be herta's bis teammate it feels so good and satisfying to see people crying that they skipped cuz they thought she was ass. i was a new player when her banner came out and she was the next 5 star i wanted after i got ruan mei so i'm happy she can supposedly shine in the way she was supposed to. im just sad i couldnt get her e1 in time so im hopeful she gets a rerun soon
@xmode_tv
@xmode_tv Күн бұрын
@nadenadz925 yep, E1 has been carrying me in all content for the last few months, very good in a Feixiao team. Also БГ?
@nadenadz925
@nadenadz925 13 сағат бұрын
@@xmode_tv daaa zdr brooo
@martenyus
@martenyus 5 күн бұрын
Just wanna let you know that the new color scheme looks great! Keep up the good work!
@kennethyoung7457
@kennethyoung7457 6 күн бұрын
Nobody really resistant to powercreep but Herta 4 star, Acheron, Robin, Ruan Mei, Aventurine, Bronya, and Huohuo have stood firm in terms of usability imo. They can easily adapt to new characters being put on their teams and the things they offer are timeless.
@jerryeljeremy7790
@jerryeljeremy7790 6 күн бұрын
If you put Herta 4* here even tho The Herta is coming then I have to put Clara here too, cuz Svarog clapped Hoolay like it's nothing in MoC. Even tho Yunli works better in general, but in general case you would rather use chars like Acheron & Firefly anyway.
@kennethyoung7457
@kennethyoung7457 6 күн бұрын
@@jerryeljeremy7790 I think Clara is really good but anytime the enemies don't attack much her performance tanks she is more like Himeko where she can excel in very specific scenario and not really good outside of it. Acheron pretty much works like Clara with Jiaoqiu, but the enemies do not have to attack anyone specifically or attack at all so she can gain stacks to "counter" them easier. You also have Yunli directly powercreeping Clara too while fixing some of her issues. So far 4 star Herta has remained unchallenged in PF even after all the new limited Erudition units. The best ones like Jade and the Herta have 4 star herta as their best support because her attack frequency is unmatched so you have that keeping her high value as well.
@Indian_gae_boii
@Indian_gae_boii 5 күн бұрын
@@jerryeljeremy7790 the thing is smol herta actually plays REALLY well with big herta, ofc big hertas best team mate is jade but small herta is not far behind and probably one of her best team mates lmao , this is unlike yunli and clara
@xii_____iiu
@xii_____iiu 5 күн бұрын
Acheron and Bronya sneak💀
@crimson_witch8978
@crimson_witch8978 4 күн бұрын
Acheron is quite save. The best support she has is jiaqou but theres always a nihility unit that could be better. Any future nihility unit will be goid for her and she doesn't rely on gimmicks to do damage like break ​@@xii_____iiu
@GabrielSantos-el4ir
@GabrielSantos-el4ir 6 күн бұрын
As a DOT player, i can still play the game end contents regardless lmao
@Leedoe1989
@Leedoe1989 5 күн бұрын
As i low spender (bp+supply) I am so happy with my choices! I have all the mentioned characters and especially Jade was so looked down upon but she has been so good for my account.
@michaelt1554
@michaelt1554 5 күн бұрын
Get that RAID sponsorship bag! Playing since 1.0, excited for 3.0 and more EOD content!
@KopiC888
@KopiC888 6 күн бұрын
Still don't have Robin because I dislike that song when she ultis...
@albaetham5864
@albaetham5864 6 күн бұрын
7:49 Do people still use fu xuan these days? I don't own her so i wouldnt know but I mainly see aventurine, lingsha, and huohuo used as sustains nowadays. I also feel like as enemies continue to get stronger it's gonna be harder for fu xuan to effectively sustain teams
@astralcomet674
@astralcomet674 6 күн бұрын
correction the more aoe damaging enemies we get the harder it becomes for her to sustain. We are in a content in which almost all the new enemies do aoe. Hoyo can change this at anytime. Aventurine is strong but imagine if hoolay was ST. Who would sustain better fu or aventurine for that scenario. Fu will struggle in heavy aoe. Aventurine will struggle in Heavy ST. Both are good but each have their own weakness.
@neoperol
@neoperol 6 күн бұрын
Before Linghsha she was my only premium sustain and still use her with Acheron and other DPS to give the the Crit Rate buff. When you are in the end game sustain is not a problem because you can do MoC with Gallagher that is worst sustain in general, but what you want from just sustain is to give the team buffs to do more damage and clear enemies faster. Now that I have Sunday with Fu Xuan I guess I can make some odd builds with just 60% Crit Rate.
@PurleyMarc
@PurleyMarc 6 күн бұрын
I cleared moc 12 with.... Luocha and fu xuan .... So I think they aged fine to me ... The new ones are good but the olds ones still relevant
@Quasar_MB
@Quasar_MB 6 күн бұрын
I use her exclusively with my E2 Acheron. That team is Acheron, E1 Jiaoqui, E2 Sparkle and E2 Fu Xuan. I like her here over my E2 Adventurine solely for her crit rate buff (cd too with E1) and her effect res buff, my Acheron team never gets cc’d because of her and she has a revive at E2. My other team is a similarly invested Feixiao team. Currently deciding between putting a Firefly team of the same caliber together or going all in for Aglaea because I love her design. I can zero cycle and clear absolutely everything to the max rn tho so I’m not too sure if Firefly is even worth it for me or if I should just pull for characters I like moving forward
@Gottaloveaxolotls
@Gottaloveaxolotls 6 күн бұрын
I don’t own aventurine or Fu Xuan since I’ve been thriving with luocha as my only limited sustain since 1.1 and chilling in terms of clearing everything well
@nebula9878
@nebula9878 6 күн бұрын
Lingsha i’m not sure, bc I feel like fugue or rm have more value when it comes to break, soon with rmc being a thing fugue just goes up in value, exo toughness is also very busted especially with a rappa, rm is basically what makes the break team being able to break, plus the res pen is actually quite powerful and can’t forget the turn delay. Lingsha does have a 4* variant in which he is very good at his job. while she does have more flexibility as a sustainer, seeing how it is more easier to make new abundance chars than preservations, she might get powercreeped idk when but it is something I’ve been seeing lately.
@sandeepinuganti8791
@sandeepinuganti8791 5 күн бұрын
let's please stop the cope that gallagher is anywhere close to lingsha, if it's not apparent now, it will be very quickly. People are already asking for Lingsha rerun xd.
@nebula9878
@nebula9878 5 күн бұрын
@@sandeepinuganti8791 i am not? I’m just saying the fact that abundance has a higher chance for getting powercreep than preservation due to how difficult it is to add a new form of reducing or avoiding damage, and they tend to be the most powerful ones, unlike abundance which is mostly hp recovery, huo huo is an example of a hybrid abundance which does have a lower chance of getting replaced, meanwhile lingsha has a summon which is very good and also acts as a fua, but we can’t avoid the fact that she mostly heals, cleanses and has a singular debuff. Also with Gallagher I said he does very well at his role as a sustainer not glazing him.
@CarloPogee
@CarloPogee 6 күн бұрын
The character that is most resistant to powercreep is none other than the best bartender in town, Gallagher. He has the most overloaded kit and OP LCs imo 1. He is SP positive. He can equip multiplication LC which is a 3* LC so he can generate sp faster 2. He can equip QPQ to give allies energy 3. He applies debuff which is also a break dmg increase and an atk down 4. Has a cleanse (tho single target) 5. Has 50% eff res due to eidolon 1 6. Has weakness break efficiency due to eidolon 6 This makes Gallagher fit into almost every team, except Follow-up team. He might even fit into summon teams if summons also have energy, is sp hungry, and might consume their hp every turn Others may think Lingsha powercrept Gallagher but there are things Lingsha cannot do while Gallagher excels at like being sp positive and utilizing QPQ more effectively since gallagher gains another turn when ulting
@SeongJeonHwan
@SeongJeonHwan 6 күн бұрын
so he's like "the wolverine" in any team except followup
@CarloPogee
@CarloPogee 6 күн бұрын
@@SeongJeonHwan I don't know what "the wolverine" means but I guess yes?
@robertlaidlaw4592
@robertlaidlaw4592 6 күн бұрын
Eh i thought this, now that super-break is kinda falling off i no longer think this. Its clear the firefly teams output is not there. Gallaghers healing isn’t the best, his dps isn’t that great either, his break is good but hes getting a little out scaled by bosses.
@blueraine21
@blueraine21 5 күн бұрын
wait until enemies cannot be debuffed and watch his sustain became nonexistant
@WestProZ17
@WestProZ17 5 күн бұрын
​@@blueraine21lol never. That'll practically kill off DoT's permanently against said enemy. Not to mention Acheron too.
@elcrest1536
@elcrest1536 5 күн бұрын
Yes. Jing Yuan T0 with Sunday. Thhe General returned to glory! (Day 1 player).
@ancalyme
@ancalyme 6 күн бұрын
If Fu Xuan is usable so is Luocha lol
@lurkera7351
@lurkera7351 6 күн бұрын
Imo fugue or rm should be the one for the BREAK category. Idunno why lingsha is the one for break bcoz lingsha ain't gonna do her break damage without superbreak (which is the core of break teams) If the category is either healing or summons then ok but putting lingsha for BREAK????? What's her contribution for break?
@ViciousKell
@ViciousKell 5 күн бұрын
Lingsha over ruan mei for break is crazy, we already have e6 Gallagher which performs close enough to lingsha. But it's been over a year and we don't have a unit that does what ruan mei does. Also you forgot about aventurine he's the best sustain rn and getting better by shielding summons, and he can debuff eith his ultimate + FUA/trend
@milliliters930
@milliliters930 6 күн бұрын
I doing a bit of a half-half approach. My Acheron team to goes vertical, and then the other team will move with the meta. PS: Hey and Robin is excellent with Acheron btw. And you forgot about our man Aventurine!!
@ImLemonadeCandy
@ImLemonadeCandy 4 күн бұрын
After pulling on black swan for E1, a part of me feels like waiting until the anniversary is your best bet because those characters end up being really good. Seele is still going somehow. 7:47
@caitsidhe4560
@caitsidhe4560 5 күн бұрын
I am still proud how my beloved IL keeps fighting hard.
@zieek1
@zieek1 Күн бұрын
I was here... And currently I'm working on a Jingliu+Loucha+Fugue+Ruan Mei team.
@adamluthfie7
@adamluthfie7 6 күн бұрын
2025 Fate collab might change everythimg
@kyo-wm3wb
@kyo-wm3wb 6 күн бұрын
Amazing video as always EOD 💛
@Lian_LC_AE
@Lian_LC_AE 5 күн бұрын
Huohuo into Summon meta will be very nice to observe.
@belleboni2016
@belleboni2016 6 күн бұрын
The only character I regret not pulling is Huohuo. Based on the leaks, upcoming characters are have higher ultimate cost (200+ energy). Maybe this due to the arrival of Sunday. I didn't pull for Huohuo because I'm saving for Feixiao and Robin next patch and I already have Aventurine, Fu Xuan and E6 Gallagher. Man, if I just waited and pull Huohuo rather than Fuxuan (she's still good though)
@17mikeToreno
@17mikeToreno 6 күн бұрын
Most likely, in 3.0, we’ll get a 4* character who can provide energy recharge similar to HuoHuo. This character will probably be either free or very easy to obtain. I’ll also speculate that in the future we’ll have a character who can reduce defense and provide energy recharge. This character would fit into Aglaea’s team, replacing the Trailblazer of the Path of Remembrance or Robin. Additionally, they would also play in Yunli’s team and synergize with her E2.
@Gachagame_addict
@Gachagame_addict 6 күн бұрын
I was so hyped when I saw that video edo got a sponsor don't think I've ever been that excited to get an ad, been here since 1.0 it feels like it was forever ago, this channel has really grown :)
@zxcxzxc
@zxcxzxc 6 күн бұрын
Lingsha top 5 imo, I feel like her having a summon might come in handy. She can fit into Break, FUA and she's basically an erudition unit
@Indian_gae_boii
@Indian_gae_boii 5 күн бұрын
i saw in my dreams that robin ult can AA memosprites of the summoners as well, robin will continue to dominate 3.x as well
@jonjonjonny1636
@jonjonjonny1636 6 күн бұрын
I...... cannot remember when I found EOD heh. Butttt. I rem some SG content creator who was wheling for e6 Seele.... so I think it shud be from 1.0 :P Keep derpin EOD! Heh o7
@Devilside12
@Devilside12 6 күн бұрын
Beauty about this new path is that we don't know whats in store for the remembrance path. Maybe, they can buff dots in the future, follow-up, break, or crit based teams. We just have to wait an see. We can get possibly some utility based remembrance units, dps, or sub dbs. We just have to stay open minded. Prob a big disclaimer, whatever they showed on the stream is just a part of the characters of what's coming for the rest of 3.X, we'll ofc see new 4*'s ND 5*'s that weren't showen.
@madisonbourret4597
@madisonbourret4597 3 күн бұрын
Couple of things -although sparkle gives skill points Sunday is also very sp positive on his ultimate, because of summon/immediate push I would say he outranks sparkle pushing her out of meta completely. -Ruan mei is still more useful in dot/break, even more than jiao qiu in dot since only his e2 can be in standard dot
@Agateacrobat
@Agateacrobat 5 күн бұрын
Remembrance characters appear to have insanely high energy costs, so I think Houhou will be good for those teams
@captainp367
@captainp367 6 күн бұрын
I'm concerned abt the hp scaling makes me think twice abt getting dps close to each other
@mehdiperrel4941
@mehdiperrel4941 6 күн бұрын
Love the new animations dude !
@Min_Goose
@Min_Goose 5 күн бұрын
My Luocha been carrying me ever since his release. Granted I use destruction characters still for most non fire clears I need.
@Fluffykan
@Fluffykan 5 күн бұрын
man DOTs really needs a comeback, its a really nice team archetype that has just been forgotten 😥
@cyberthunder528
@cyberthunder528 4 күн бұрын
just imagine break lives till version 4.0 or 5.0 or even 6.0
@harlembeatfreak
@harlembeatfreak 6 күн бұрын
When it comes to powercreep resistance, my bet would always be on supports. For Abundance, Lingsha and Huohuo would last longer than the others. Except Aventurine, i don't see anyone else filling in that spot for a Preservation character just yet. Harmony is a bit more resistant, with Sunday, Robin, Bronya (for non-Sunday havers), and Ruan Mei (for break). Break would still be around for a while, depending on the new characters in 3.x. Firefly's fire weakness plant is very useful and puts Ruan Mei in a good position to avoid powercreep. Fugue is another indication that Break team would stay relevant for now, even after Remembrance MC comes out. Except Firefly, DPS can come and go very easily. I wouldn't invest in them so much and instead save more pulls for more support. My mains now are Firefly, Acheron, and Jingyuan (since it's Sunday's banner now) and I'd be set until the next meta DPS comes out.
@SengokuTheGouda
@SengokuTheGouda Күн бұрын
Every video I'm always flabbergasted that you leave Topaz off, especially since you mention she's one of the best (I'd argue THE best) aging 1.X units. She has only gotten better and better and will always be good unless Hoyo decides to directly powercreep her by giving FUA another Sub-DPS/Sub-Harmony unit. Sparkle over her is especially insane as Sparkle's relevance is coming to an end thanks to Sunday and the shift to a summon meta. Huohuo will absolutely be the standout Abundance Unit though if a certain someone's energy cost is anything to go by.
@squallleonhart1463
@squallleonhart1463 4 күн бұрын
Do you think sunday is a must pull for aglaea?or jade hanya could work anw
@WestProZ17
@WestProZ17 5 күн бұрын
Out of the big 3 2.X DPS. Feixiao I feel will keep going strong due to the premium FuA is ridiculously good but eventually she may start to drop Acheron is special, her trace and kit makes her get better with time. I don't believe she'll ever be in the position such as how badly Jingliu fell off. It seems like even against Ice weak enemies she just can't do enough damage. The HP inflation doesn't help either. Lastly my main Firefly, I believe another break DPS could come and unsurp her as the top break DPS but until that time comes she's so comfortable and can reliable n can easily stomp content. As long as enemies don't lock their TB n they're weak to Fire (that hardly matters anyway) regardless of the HP inflation she'll keep cooking, sure she isn't No1 anymore at E0 S0 but she's still very very strong. Her E2 will make her almost immune to powercreep like Acheron's.
@Mega_Evolution_
@Mega_Evolution_ 4 күн бұрын
Love this update series every time, EOD!😍 I’m excited to see what the next episode will be like though. Can't wait! By the way, it would be awesome if you could check your inbox - we've sent you an email!🤗
@pijanshepard1329
@pijanshepard1329 5 күн бұрын
I hope in 3.0, there is a 4* character that can be a placeholder for Sunday. I don't think I can get him now as there is not enough resource for me to pull. Might make it if I do quests and open chest and stuff since there still time but losing 50/50 is always an unavoidable aspect in this game at least for me.
@7HFEstorque
@7HFEstorque 4 күн бұрын
Lingsha stonks gonna puuuuump. Honestly i liked her EN Va and personality but skipped bc i thought my E6 Gallagher would make her a redundant pull and i am still hoping that there will be a preservation or abundance thats able to make DoT great aside from HuoHuo
@youssefalaoui7967
@youssefalaoui7967 Күн бұрын
Jade is The herta’s best teammate; that alone makes her already good for 3.X Remembrance units have summons which means they regenerate a lot of energy => high energy cost => HuoHuo will be very meta and probably best sustain for remembrance Sparkle probably will fall off due to the summon meta and her weak action advance, unless they release a new crit non remembrance hypercarry she won’t be performing in a meta level (Aglaea for example does NOT consume skill points at all) Lingsha is surely gonna survive even in a non break meta but ruan mei would probably survive even further, she’s a top pick in any team that needs a buffer, probably won’t fall from the apex tier unless they release a harmony unit who does the same as her plus do considerable damage or just messes up with the whole game mechanics lol Jiaoqiu already has a niche where he’s good but once said niche is no longer meta he will automatically fall off Sunday is probably the most futureproof character they ever released Robin advances remembrance units’ memosprites too so her crown will remain untouched for a while
@TheWipal
@TheWipal 4 күн бұрын
our general never falls off
@Elune21
@Elune21 5 күн бұрын
Day 1 player and still survive till now as F2P, hopefully still can hold as F2P. Manage to bring home Sunday and get his LC even though I was not successfully getting his sister. For Lingsha, I'm also agree with you. I'm manage to Clear Divergent Universe: Ordinary Extrapolation Threshold Protocol 4 final boss with team Firefly (E0) + Sha Sha (E0) + Sunny (E0S0) + Mei Mei (E1). Firefly is act as support, while Sha Sha with the help of Sunday she become DPS 😅 I'm satisfied with her dmg and hope I will get her LC for next rerun.
@Tiku-
@Tiku- 5 күн бұрын
You forgot to consider Bronya and Himeko into the equation, but I guess they dont count since they’re standard banner, but still their kit is worth considering as to the factor of why and what makes a character relevant in the long run, even though their kit seems extremely generic at first glance, even though they are a literal ‘global release’ characters.
@shiroyuki918
@shiroyuki918 6 күн бұрын
Ratio is the MVP of my account. I have never regretted that I pull his light cone and gathered best team (Only instead of Topaz - Moze E2) . My only disappointment is Jingliu.
@KRMRGaming
@KRMRGaming 5 күн бұрын
1.0 !!!!! ❤❤❤ been around since the launch of the game
@HazZzel-
@HazZzel- 5 күн бұрын
18:22 top pick for sp? Not with e0 s1 Sunday
@FulguriteBeam
@FulguriteBeam 4 күн бұрын
As a new player who started on 2.6, you guys think RMC can replace Robin? Unfortunately I don't have Robin, also no limited DPS(I'm just using Clara, Sunday, Aventurine) so Herta will be my first DPS and maybe grab Jade as well. I'll skip Aglaea and just wait for the next remembrance dps so my Sunday will stay with Clara for a long time.
@antoniolesha
@antoniolesha 3 күн бұрын
Cipher is the one I lol forward too ❤
@nobodyimportant4503
@nobodyimportant4503 5 күн бұрын
Been here since the reinstallation, a couple months before the game released
@Ziceburg
@Ziceburg 4 күн бұрын
nice video man
@misbahul9044
@misbahul9044 6 күн бұрын
change ? more like hp sponge everypatch lmao and as basic thing on turn based. Support and sustain is definetely can go over different patch and does the job unit like RM robin or other harmony that can manipulate turn (inc speed, action advance) are prevail most of the time unless the mechanic punish you ( they punish specific spd/ taking so many turn), healer/shielder that does more than that (huohuo, gallagher are good example) JQ maybe the only debuffer that can go several patch and still does his job best as for dps, it sucks but nothing you can do about that
@DestaLosta
@DestaLosta 5 күн бұрын
Im v 1.0 player. I skipped Seele, so I can pull JY+LC. He receive a lot buff from new relics and new teammate. 😅😅 I think v 1.x characters that I pulled and Im not disappointed with them are Topaz and Huohuo. When they got released, many people underestimate them. But, they become very useful in some teams, especially in my account. I pull Topaz because she can buff (debuff actually) FUA damage, and I pull her for JY support and sub dps. Now, she become a must in FUA team. When Huohuo got released, people compare her with Loucha and other healer that can do emergency heal. Yes, she cant do emergency heal instantly. But, from her talent, our teammate will get heal and cleanse when its our turn or we do ultimate. One of my many reason I pull her its because she can refill energy. I pull her so she can support my DHIL. With Huohuo and Tingyun, they can be the best support for Hypercarry that need Energy. For example in my account I set them to DHIL, JY, or Yunli.
@jasonng658
@jasonng658 5 күн бұрын
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@azadenzo3611
@azadenzo3611 6 күн бұрын
Damn the top 6 that you chose i have non of them they were the once that i skipped 😶‍🌫️
@CapSoo999
@CapSoo999 5 күн бұрын
Dot is the only 1.x team that barely survived in 2.x, so I think they will continue to survive in 3.x
@a.naufalr
@a.naufalr 4 күн бұрын
Which team do you guys prefer (Sunday, Lingsha, Remembrance MC, Aglaea) or (Sunday, Huohuo, Remembrance MC, Aglaea) ?
@duckosson2650
@duckosson2650 4 күн бұрын
I think u prob mean Remembrance MC (RMC) so I'll stick with that I would say probably Huohuo over Lingsha, while Lingsha is def comfier than Huohuo, I saw in a dream that Huohuo's energy regen and attack buff is way more valuable in a Aglaea Hypercarry team
@a.naufalr
@a.naufalr 4 күн бұрын
@@duckosson2650 Ah yeah... remembrance, my bad 😅
@MoriartyUC
@MoriartyUC 3 күн бұрын
second option if huohuo can meet the sustain demands cuz her with sunday can offer really good energy regen for aglaea and for the team
@jacefederico2455
@jacefederico2455 5 күн бұрын
I’m surprised that Aven wasn’t on the list. He’s too good on many teams but only not on hp hungry teams. He can make your team immortal with those fu and also provide bonus damage for your dps.
@blueraine21
@blueraine21 5 күн бұрын
Aventurine is not good in 3.0 because Aglea is so fast his shield fade so quickly.. Sure you can use E but he will be SP negative on how much he uses it.. RMC summon also advance turn which affects Aventurine negatively.. Lingsha or Huohuo gonna be the best sustain in Amphoreus until new healer arrives
@xii_____iiu
@xii_____iiu 5 күн бұрын
​@@blueraine21 no one even knows if other remembrance DPS will be as fast as Aglaea.
@darrylng2967
@darrylng2967 5 күн бұрын
It’s sad that sparkle got powercrept so fast after Sunday’s release😢
@ryuk6795
@ryuk6795 6 күн бұрын
Comment section is going to be bloodbath pf people fighting for their favs
@jerryeljeremy7790
@jerryeljeremy7790 6 күн бұрын
If you are looking for these meta-changing char that are resistant to at least a long time, look for char with two of these things: 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 • *Mixed Char* (char with double or more roles, like sustain that can debuff, etc) • *Affect the whole team* (For Support) • *DMG/ERR/C.Rate/RES PEN/SPD/AV manipulation/ buff or debuff capabilities* (these rare universal buffs, still depends on your team tho)
@thapotatonater827
@thapotatonater827 6 күн бұрын
Out of the top list I’m only missing lingsha and jade, which isn’t bad since I’m f2p the only break character I have is boothill and him with Sunday works beyond well.
@Napat-YTsBS
@Napat-YTsBS 5 күн бұрын
Lingsha mains are happy rn 🎉.
@richardshiflett5181
@richardshiflett5181 2 күн бұрын
They need to add ways to buff old characters
@liangyi2497
@liangyi2497 5 күн бұрын
This feels like a hoyolab tier list
@Henry-bg4oe
@Henry-bg4oe 6 күн бұрын
I don’t think Sparkle should be anywhere near this list, as Sunday just completely outclasses her. He straight up gives numerically superior buffs and even takes over her one niche, skill points if you get his light cone. It’s crazy that if you get Sunday’s light cone you actually generate 0.5 skill points a turn compared to Sparkle’s 0.33. Sunday gives one unit a similar amount of crit damage as Sparkle, significantly more damage bonus if you have a summon, and even gives crit rate, energy, a cleanse and 100% AV instead of 50, all of which Sparkle doesn’t have. Sparkle is our first limited support that has gotten completely power crept, less than a year after her release too.
@aidan_1105
@aidan_1105 6 күн бұрын
i mean sparkles sp is still better for characters that consume more at one time, no?
@Hreimdal
@Hreimdal 5 күн бұрын
@@aidan_1105 Technically if you have a need for many SP right after her ult, but you can't really look at it like that, cause then you would be out of SPs and then what are you going to do, revert to basics? She consumes most of those SPs she generates herself while Sunday with his LC does not. On average Sunday with his LC will generate more SP than Sparkle does.
@stevestevens1457
@stevestevens1457 6 күн бұрын
Me here in 2.7 still trying to dress my Imbibitor in proper relics. Ooof 😢
@lumpianggulay5709
@lumpianggulay5709 5 күн бұрын
amazing analysis
@SerenicaKristel
@SerenicaKristel 6 күн бұрын
Day 1 player here and still going strong. 😊
@4_rol4
@4_rol4 6 күн бұрын
THERE IS LITTERLLY NOTHING STOPING HOYO TO YOINK A KIT GIVE IT HIGHER MULTIPLIER AND CALLING IT A DAY. THEY DID IT MULTIPLE TIMES AND CAN DO IT AGAIN ANYTIME.
@spacialsonic7779
@spacialsonic7779 5 күн бұрын
Ironicly i can only name one unit of all time for now (as long you can have the units to combine) being Mvp Core starter and doing everything well or fine: Lingsha It's Literally Lingsha Showcase, your Healer is the Support and the Dps (Story Fugue She just obliterate the mobs too fast, Suffer from succes xD ) In this version, there is a chance if you do already have Lingsha with Sunday and Fugue, this core will be nasty = Lingsha Say: You have a potential Hypercarry on Superbreak Later 3.0, it's just safe from me now to say: if you dont have lingsha and need a "good dps" , go for lingsha ironicly xD
@Emkiu16
@Emkiu16 5 күн бұрын
The Herta or Firefly help 😭 (I already have a Ruan Mei for the Firefly team)
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