Top 7 Hardest Ultimate Weapons To Obtain

[@djb5255]

There was a kid at my school in middle school whom could be paid $20, provided a memory card, and would return in the following day with Venus Sigil.

[@LePreuxBuisson]

Damn what a genius !

[@harryb12993]

A cool $100 an hour

[@davidv4018]

Current CEOS stole his idea.

[@udalix]

There is no pride involved without earning it though. Might as well use a game shark or something if that's the case lmao.

[@flesheffigy875]

That's awesome

[@lycaonvollmond8856]

Thank hell that there wasn't a weapon tied to Vivi's skip rope challenge.

[@Malmern]

Yeah, imagine having to get 1000 skips to obtain Mace of Zeus. :P

[@TheGary108]

@@Malmern Yeah. But there’s a trophy connected.

[@lucianorosso3375]

Even when i played ff9 in emulation it took me some time to get that trophy from skip rope challenge

[@averybomb2]

@@Malmern we'd all be crying

[@catbert88]

Technically the Tiger Racket was the top tier racket for Eiko and Garnet and that was tied to the skip rope challenge and one other minigame (can't remember which).

[@djhinton79]

Lulu's weapon - I got to 199 and my eyes were so dry. I blinked and got hit at the 200th. The amount of rage I have internalized from that should have turned me super sayian.

[@SobrietyandSolace]

I don't blame you. I've never done it. If it weren't for the BDL on aeons I wouldn't care so much as I like customising weapons.

[@jessemasters1446]

This happened to me. I had my GF at the time count it for me and made the mistake of asking here where I was. She said 195 and then I started counting and blinked at 198. OMGGGGGGG

[@StabbyRocketJoe]

Oh no 😢

[@Lasse_Fair]

I had an incredible efficient method of counting, even if it involved risks. Back on the PS2 I completed the game only once, but made it to end game several times, but then stopped playing, because it was either too easy to beat the game or too much work getting all the stuff. Not the Venus Sigil however. I found that and the Sun Sigil and Kimahri's Saturn(?) Sigil the easiest to obtain, because they weren't so damn tedious. Yuna's Moon Sigil was easy enough as well, but here weapon was more tedious to unlock. For Tidus it's perseverance and trying not to get frustrated. For Kimahri it was just learning the correct route. For Lulu I sat down with a piece of paper and a pen and then counted in increments of 10. When I reached 10, I would pause and jot down one line. Here's the risk: when unpausing you had to be extra careful about the lightning. But other than that it was over in a jiffy and without straining myself. I usually repeated this 21 times just to be certain. Now however, 15+ years later, I can't do it. My reactions are just to damn slow and I can hardly make it to five in a row.

[@dosbilliam]

Sounds about like how I felt when I finished the chocobo race with an ending time of 0:00.01. :D

[@Senrabekim]

A friend of mine and I traded Sun sigil for Venus sigil. I could chocobo race, he could dodge lightning.

[@Sighdafekt]

das beautiful bro(‘:

[@stephaniegentryart]

Sweet deal lol I did it once replaying for the first time in over a decade from start to finish and completed file cause why they heck not. And uhh I’ve done all the weapons accept lulus. I managed to do it back then.... maybe my hand eye coordination is worse lol 😂

[@Senrabekim]

@@stephaniegentryart I was seriously considering building a photosensitivity sensor, and hooking that up to a controller and walking away at one point.

[@stephaniegentryart]

J Michael Barnes def threw my controller a few times lol

[@fluffyflare578]

I could do lightning no problem. Even counted in my head the whole lol. But that f***ing race. I wanted to throw myself at a wall

[@henrideveroux8690]

There is a very simple strat that makes obtaining the Venus Sigel (and thus the Onion Knight) very easy. Step 1: Unlock Omega's Dungeon and grind till you get a "No Encounters" Weapon. This is also Critical for Rikku's UW and in general nice to have. Step 2: Head just North of Rin's travel agency. This area drops lightening /very/ frequently. Step 3: Turn the sound on your TV all the way down. This is critical. The thunder in the background is distracting as hell. When the screen flashes white, hit X to dodge. Step 4: Every 25 or 50 dodges, pause the game and take a moment. Get a drink, use the bathroom, just let the adrenaline fade. Pausing the game does not restart your count. Step 5: When you think you've got 200, do another 10-20. Better safe then sorry. Using this method I have never had much trouble gaining the Venus Sigel.

[@nesoukkefka1741]

You don't need to grind for a No Encounter weapon you can drop one almost 100% by just beating the fish boss that almost eat Tidus at the beginning of the game, he is a extremely easy boss, and drop a no encounter.

[@Taterzz]

yea there was nothing hard about this sigil, it was just tedious. neither was the chocobo racing. i think the problem was just that most players are bad at games. i always went with 10 dodges, tally a piece of paper, and keep going.

[@Skopin]

There is a much easier way to do it. There is a crater just a bit before the travel agency that will let you control when the lightning strikes, which is right next to a lightning tower. You run to the spot, dodge the bolt, then go back to the tower. Rinse and repeat. Lightning will strike every time you run to that spot, so you know exactly when it's going to strike. Then going back to the tower prevents another random strike from occurring. It only takes about 20 minutes to dodge 200 this way.

[@Taterzz]

@@Skopin nah, just go down the path that connects the first zone to the second. lightning strikes at the bottom of that hill every time.

[@oldDNU]

The one that drove me the most nuts was the butterfly game. I also never had the patience to grind through blitzball (I wasn’t a fan of the minigame anyway).

[@Chobits4eva]

For everyone who has problems with the 200 lightning challenge: There is a spot that takes the randomness of the lightning away: in the south section (the entry section) of the thunder plains, there is a lightning rod on the left side, followed by a dark crater close by, a bit to the north-east. If you run from the rod to the crater, there will allways and immidiatly be a lightning. Afterwards, you can run back a few steps towards the rod, run to the crater again and dodge the next one. since it allways happens at the same spot/time, you can repeat this and easily learn the right rythm to not have to rely on your reactions

[@Big.Joe.Grizzly]

Can confirm this works I have done this maybe 3 times now it's just very tedious. Now we need a better method for the ff9 jump rope minigame without cheating... as far as I'm concerned it is literally impossible and that bugs me so much. Can't have a 100% complete file without that stupid key item!!!!!

[@Maxim.Nazarenko]

02:20 - Final Fantasy XI. Relic Weapons. 06:04 - Final Fantasy X. Onion Knight. 08:30 - Final Fantasy XII. Tournesol. 10:46 - Final Fantasy V. Tinkerbell. 12:28 - Final Fantasy XIV. Ultima Weapons. 14:01 - Final Fantasy IV (Remake). Onion Sword. 16:18 - Final Fantasy IX. Excalibur II.

[@Gellvos]

FFXI Mythic tho :(

[@johnheckley9235]

The heavy metal plates were a much bigger pain than relic. Roughly 100k each buying from bazaars and needed 10k of them. Never even attempted to try and get it.

[@zaydraco]

@@Gellvos agreed, that is still tough

[@Gellvos]

@@zaydraco I bet! I stopped playing in 2013/14 and had 2 relics and an empyrean. I could of had a few more but I couldn't be bothered, main thing I wanted was a Tizona but just looking at its requirements before counting Alexandrite (I think the stuff is called) just put me off

[@hwystar_4584]

Bruh lionheart ffviii. 12% cance for pulse ammo to drop

[@churboify]

I remember attempting lulu's lightening challenge once. Got all the way to 200 and done an extra 10 to be safe. Returned to Rins shop with a big smile across my face, ready to claim my reward; only to find out that I had miscounted horribly. "..You have dodged 199 times.." I put the controller down, and haven't played it since. 🤣🤣

[@dantevic]

churboify i reached 198 an got hit an never played again.

[@FinalFantasyUnion]

EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME. I rage quitted so hard.... -Lauren

[@scribble71891]

Wow my condolences. That is why I did sets of ten or twenty before I took breaks so when I eventually lost count I was confident that I went overboard and I did, with a score of 257.

[@FinalFantasyUnion]

scribble71891 I did that too... my brain just apparently missed out 10 somewhere as I thought I had done 210 😭

[@alyden567]

that's sucks. I'll be grumpy afterwards if that happened to me

[@Zero_Steel]

True Story I literally destroyed a controller because of that fcking Chocobo Race just to earn a Sun Sigil

[@Vhailor619]

I've never done it, its taken Tidus out of my main team in FFX

[@STANKGOD-420]

I eventually made another weapon with similar stats as his ultimate, then felt disappointed so went back and finally beat it. Pain in the ass

[@Nayrgnow]

Lol i think i did that repeatlu hundreds of time , and the dodging lightning thing so frustrating

[@JamesCPotter13]

The Chocobo races weren't hard for me once I knew what I was doing... THE BUTTERFLIES ON THE OTHER HAND I WILL NEVER FORGIVE.

[@Nayrgnow]

Yeahhh the butterfly lol damnn...don't want to remember that moment ever again...i did a dungeon in ffxv , forgot the name it kinda named like pitisio dungeon i think, pretty fucked up dungeon, with or without the guide

[@cbthomas909]

True story: After I was able to dodge the lightening on FFX over 200 times (which took me a few days to complete), my friend asked me to do it for his game too. I took his memory card, and I was able to dodge the lightening over 200 hundred times on his game file. It took me almost an entire day of trying. Unfortunately, when I went to save the progress, I chose the wrong memory card slot and saved over my game with his game. Not only did I wipe out my lightening dodging achievement from my character save, I also lost about 10 hours of progress. I was so discouraged I almost quit the game for good, but after taking a few days off from FFX, I decided to suck it up and try again. Not only was I able to get back to my same progress in less time, I made sure to shatter my last record. I dodged the lightening over 300 times (I think it was more like 340 times). Anyway, after I reflected on what I just put myself through for something that had no real world impact, I started to wonder what I would be capable of, if I applied the same tenacity to something useful - like school. I re-enrolled in community college (I had dropped out a semister earlier after failing several classes). I shot for one of the most lofty goals I could think of, which was to become a doctor and started to plug away. Over 10 years later I was finally finishing medical school and on my way to residency. Now I'm a practicing internal medicine doctor, and FFX's lightening dodging will always have a special place in my heart during that journey.

[@NuclearRaven13]

And there will be lightning in your patients heart too! If they are in critical condition at least.

[@gwinbeer]

Congrats man. With those impeccable reflexes and patience, I firmly believe you can become a neurosurgeon and cardiothoracic surgeon in the future.

[@reginaldh2079]

Amazing!

[@kaiserjohn1037]

Hey man, I honestly think this is something I needed to see. Currently, with the whole convid-19 going on, I have been feeling down and lack the resolve to try in my post secondary classes. After reading what you wrote, I think something woke me up and I want to try using the passion I have for video games into my school work just as you did. Thank you man!

[@cbthomas909]

@@kaiserjohn1037 hey thanks for saying that. I'm sure lots of us are feeling down. I've been having some struggles myself. Since I work at a hospital, I'm always worried about exposing my wife and baby to infection, especially COVID19. So hang in there man! What I said before was true. I graduated high school in 1997. I didn't even get my bachelor's degree until 2006. Even though I did well my last 2 years of undergraduate school (and well on my MCAT) I was haunted by my abysmal first few years of college. Most medical schools wouldn't give me a second look. After an insane will to keep going and staying optimistic though, I was finally accepted into medical school in 2010. Through it all, I honestly feel like video games trained me - more than anything else - to never give up. Like a lot of us gamers, I would pour all my energy into my games. Whether it was completing every timed achievement on Golden Eye (for N64), or maxing out all my Final Fantasy characters on every FF game, or getting every ultimate weapon on FF X, or maxing out my unarmed skill on World of Warcraft by spending hours punching elite mobs (lol), something inside me made those achievements doable. I even erased all my skill spheres on FF X and replaced them with the max level skill spheres by fighting in the game's version of the Colosseum (like FF VI) It wasn't until the lightning dodging fiasco, that I got my shit together though. At that period in my life, I realized that if I could tap into that energy that allowed me to play a video game 24 hours straight (or in my ps1 case, burn out the game's ability to read my disk, like what happened to me on Legacy of Kain), I could probably do anything. I feel like most of us in the gamer community have the capacity to get amazing things done, we just need the focus and direction. If anybody wants to verify what I'm saying is legit, I'll just throw it out there that I work for Peace health in Eugene Oregon currently (soon to be moving to Pennsylvania). My user name here would match a hospitalist in internal medicine working at Peace Health.

[@Asdayasman]

The lightning bolts in the thunder plains are deterministic. If you go to the right side entrance to the second zone, there's a dark spot on the floor. Stand there, and after a couple seconds, four lightning bolts will strike in quick succession. Press X every time the screen flashes, without moving, then walk back to the dark spot. You should only take about 7 minutes to get the full 200. It's still a bitch though.

[@coolguy02536]

Deterministic is not a word! Say ‘Determined’ like the rest of Spira!

[@Asdayasman]

deterministic ˌdɪtəːmɪˈnɪstɪk adjective relating to the philosophical doctrine that all events, including human action, are ultimately determined by causes regarded as external to the will. "a deterministic theory"

[@coolguy02536]

ref·er·ence ˈref(ə)rəns noun the action of mentioning or alluding to something. "he made reference to the enormous power of the mass media" synonyms: mention of, allusion to, comment on, remark about "his journal contains many references to railroads" (Haven't you played X-2?)

[@Jester_Jean]

DISASTERRIFIC??

[@DoomedToastr3000]

@@coolguy02536 -10% Did not cite sources or have bibliography page. www.citationmachine.net/chicago

[@derekwalter4238]

I remember getting the Venus sigil once as a teenager. I would just do it in sets of 10, pause the game for a bit and then continue. I'd keep tally marks of my progress. When you're only doing 10 at a time it does a lot to take the pressure off

[@thatfuzzypotato1877]

This is exactly how I just did it. Did it in sets of 25 until 100, then sets of 10 (with a no encounter armor and thr crater exploit) the butterflies were easy once I did it a few times, but that @#$%ing chocobo race. 10 hours of trying over 4 days STILL no luck/skill at that bull

[@energeez]

@@thatfuzzypotato1877 i did it a few days ago in about 1 hour 45 min. Its not skill based, and I approached it almost opposite of the lightning. The lightning you have to focus. The chocobo i put on some you tube videos and didn't really pay attenion, just kept doing it over and over. Main focuses were 1. not hitting birds, then 2. getting under 36 seconds. Everything else will fall in out of luck i think. People talk about paths and stuff, i say screw all that im just gonna chill and focus on the birds. Got it like 15 tries later. Chocobos are crazy stupid birds and i treated it that way and had fun with it and didn't care. Ive crushed the game many times. Also, once you get everything its kinda meh anyhow so just relax and don't stress it, enjoy the ride. Hope that helps. p.s. i got all celestial weapons this time around! pretty cool.

[@Thang15019]

@@thatfuzzypotato1877 i did won the race 3 times. But never gotten the venus sigil. Fuck that lightning man

[@yamiookami]

Excalibur II's requirement made me never interested in attempting to obtain it. You have to sacrifice every time-sensitive sidequest to get it, and that's missing out on a lot of great stuff.

[@aizensama5877]

Just using gamesharks..

[@originalrandomguylol]

You CAN skip some side quests, but you can do some, as I have obtained Excalibur II while doing so

[@zokora3656]

Well technically it's still possible to do everything and get Excalibur 2 too. It's just hard and you need a good setup planned out

[@alibaba3568]

@@zokora3656 Or leave the game running for 2+ years

[@bigrick4284]

The idea of multiple playthroughs must blow this guy's mind

[@galloviking4766]

The venus sigil is the only one I didn't have. Because I failed at 199. Power cut. Never touched my ffx ever again :')

[@Yonensai]

Happy to hear im not the only 199. But i did finish the game though.

[@fluffyflare578]

Try doing the method with the crater. It's not that hard. As you circle it properly, you're fine. Keep in mind the position for this is different depending on the version. For me, it included a medium size crater and a smaller one just a few inches south. Circling around the two like an oval made it a cake walk.

[@seriour3081]

Muting the game helps for me

[@blissfulbabybatter]

You think thats bad I was at 199 and my girlfriend flicked my hair and caused me to get struck

[@lucianorosso3375]

As a game perfectionist, excalibur II is my worst play through. It breaks my heart ignoring all those loots to save time.

[@Jomike_Joestar]

I did a perfect game Excalibur II run as my third playtrought. Got all the treasures on the way (Atlethe Queen........). Very statisfying.

[@averybomb2]

@@Jomike_Joestar damn on your third? Took me 5 tries, still trying to get the King of Jump rope though

[@Jomike_Joestar]

@@averybomb2 yes my second was a level 1 game. Much much worse to be honest

[@averybomb2]

@@Jomike_Joestar rip

[@dazzlinggleams]

every time someone mentions ffxi, i get super nostalgic. teleporting people for gil, walking them through that lone, snowy cavern, casting sneak and all the other stealth spells so they could charge carbuncle's ruby with that final weather condition. miss my whm/smn and smn/whm so much :'(

[@BunBun299]

I consider Excalibur 2 to be cheating on the part of the Developers. It just goes against my every instinct as a gamer, which is to explore every nook and cranny. Really savor my game. There's just so much you miss if you take the Speed Run required to get this one item. So back in the day, when I played FFIX on the original Play Station, I cheated in turn. I used a Game Shark to give myself the Excalibur 2. The one bit of cheating I ever did in that game. Earned everything else the hard way. I regret nothing.

[@icessoup]

recommend using Alternate Fantasy mod on the Steam version, it lets you get the ExII sword through finding all treasures in the game except 3. I got it on my first one and got a perfect save file. The devs were really mean to lock a sword behind that to begin with lol

[@Bjorick]

+BunBun299 Thank you, I always thought the excaliber 2 was idiotic, if there was a reason it wasn't there after 12 hours, sure, but nope, just disappears. And, lets be honest, is it only there for speed runners? If that's the case, alright, put it somewhere that if you missed it at the 12 hour mark, you have a sub quest or have to buy it in the auction house, I'd be cool with that, but i don't like time limits in my games, life already give me enough of those with work, bills, death. I play games to have fun. Anything other then an rpg might be okay, but if i remember correctly, part of this game has a tracker to let you know what percentage of treasures you've gotten? just ehhh, never been a fan of this game and the ex 2 was the straw that broke the camels back, never finished playing it (and i liked ff8, thought it wasn't as good as 7 in regards to story, and thought enemies leveling up based off of your characters was extremely stupid).

[@Noobie2k7]

You can still complete the game collecting every possible key item, and doing all the major sidequests and still get the Excalibur II in a single playthrough (though i would very very highly not ever reccomend you attempt it, i did it recently and i still hear the KWEEEH!?'s in my nightmares). Finishing the game in 12 game hours is actually easier than you think, since you never have to ever actually grind in FF IX at all, it;s actually easier in some ways to finish the game at as low a level as possible.

[@RyuFireheart]

I used a guide to get every missable item while also having enough equipment copies to equip everyone and still hold 1 copy on inventory to keep the list organized. That was one of the 3 most boring things i did in a FF game...

[@Noobie2k7]

@@RyuFireheart Chocobo Hot&Cold was mine. It's been like 3 months now and i still have that burned into my brain. I guess Hot&Cold isn't so bad if you're just doing it on a normal run though. I guess King of Jump Rope is also one of the most boring, tedious things to ever exist in any FF game.

[@pigpotty]

I remember it took so much focus to dodge the lightning, that i had to go into a sort of zen state. And I kid you not, I got to literally 199 and my cat walked through my field of vision, which was enough to throw me off and miss the 200th.

[@lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598]

That was 100% intentional on the cat"s part.

[@thepinoychoppingboard1012]

@@lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598 absolutely!

[@donguapo7862]

I would have took 8 of its 9 lives and told it this is you last chance get it together

[@TheLiamis]

The worst weapon quest ever to do.

[@SirForcEdge]

I think the trick was to play in a dark room and pause the game to take a break after every 20 Lightning bolts

[@BOABModels]

I've played through FFIX more than any other game but I've never been tempted to go for Excalibur II - I love the game for its story and characters but I think speed running just removes all that.

[@brudel001]

I completely agree. Making the player miss out everything else just for one characters one weapon is pretty pointless. I mean I could somewhat understand if it was a requirement for some stupid trophy but there wasn't such things back in the day. I never bothered getting the damn thing with speedrun but instead used trainer to stop game time.

[@GRIMLOCK07]

For Lulu's Onion Knight Sigil. I did it in increments of 50 with a pause in between sets to take a 5 minute break before continuing. Plus I made a tick mark on some paper for every 10 dodges so I wouldn't lose count later.

[@freman007]

Final Fantasy 8 allowed you to have most of the ultimate weapons by the end of disk one, with only Rinoa and Zell requiring materials you have to wait till disk three for.

[@NoFutureForG0uda]

havent played the game but the amount of comments all over youtube referring to ff8 disc 1 is funny as fk

[@givemeexp]

No, zell can get the ultimate weapon on disc one

[@AURON2401]

@@givemeexp Yeah, Only by cheating though.

[@RandomBlackGamer]

I'll tell you who wins the category for most pointless/lackluster Ultimate Weapon...Vincent's Ultimate gun in Dirge of Cerberus. It's basically just Cerberus with a little more power and a different name. No flashy look to make you proud for grinding.

[@l0st5oul45]

to be fair in ex hard mode once you have the ultima weapon you no longer need any other weapon. plus it might just be nostalgia but the basic cerberus has a pretty cool design

[@JesterBM]

it do look cool tho ngl

[@CrashSable]

Death Penalty didn't require any grinding, the game just gives it to you. Oh, you mean Ultima Weapon from upgrading the toy gun - the thing that was basically required to get a decent ranking in EX Hard Mode. Sure, you can beat EX Hard mode with just Cerberus, but you need Ultima Weapon's tighter grouping for crits, higher power for ammo efficiency and time constraints and to make better use of Hydra's manual aim.

[@cazelladiaz]

Dirge of cerberus was a great game i wish it a remaster

[@katsomeday1]

Lulu's Onion Knight for me was a lot easier than the butterfly catching game. That was brutal.

[@sootythunder3111]

That stupid game made me have a new found appreciation for depth perception

[@audermarspiguet6127]

That one was the easiest for me.

[@SlitheringStevePhilips]

“We will exclude any weapons that a player couldn’t know about blind” “Here’s the Excalibur 2”

[@shadowofseattle1338]

Pft that means no zodiarc spear

[@cdmsinger12]

Right?! There is no logical way a new player, or player without a guide could ever achieve it. Full stop.

[@coreypatterson5827]

@@cdmsinger12 You could say that about every entry on this list, really.

[@cdmsinger12]

@@coreypatterson5827 Mostly true! But there are certain paths, easter eggs, quests and rabbit trails people could stumble upon that might lead them to a weapon. Ex2 is definitely not one of them lol

[@jprec5174]

Excalibur 2 was made to push their shitty online guide platform as the information was initially found there when the game launched. Thank god for the brave souls who sacrificed a subscription fee to share this information.

[@MatsLindgrenMusic]

8:48 "All the souls of the world are contained in this single sphere. Small enough to fit in a hand, but its power extends beyond the limits of knowledge. ... I'll give ya 2,000 gil for it."

[@guilhermegmoreir]

That moment when you finally get Excalibur II, then you realize you'll eventually do max damage even with the weakest sword available...

[@MAJICB0B]

Cloud's Ultima Weapon wasn't handed to you through the story (Though it may as well be... it's easy)

[@resonantshadow]

Acquiring all Celestial Weapons on FFX was truly an accomplishment during my childhood.

[@pigzard01]

I have to admit the lightning dodger was what forced me to use a save editor after having been tempted to use it for so long. It was either that or risk going blind or having a seizure from the eyestrain of dodging repeated lightning strikes.

[@Christianoul]

What I found to be very interesting about Lulu's final weapon was that it wasn't really the best weapon she could have, since the One MP Cost effect could be obtained by using items or mix, I can't recall... So I made another Break Damage weapon for her myself. If I remember well, I didn't go with the Triple Overdrive too. All I cared for was more magic damage, 'cause it made fighting Penance easier if you could deal good damage through Ultima to keep both his arms dead most of the time.

[@RikiJasmin]

She's basically useless in the post game. I know all the characters become the same but her overdrive sucks.

[@MacilentoComicsManga]

I see Steiner on the thumbnail, i click like.

[@MaugzSR]

Macilento | Comics & Manga Sir Rusty for the win!

[@ruganzureggie385]

It's just that simple

[@aninymouse1651]

He really is best boy. 👍

[@Recifully]

*clang clang clang clang everywhere...

[@Roksana-gy1ek]

Same

[@terminaldeity]

The chocobo race sidequest to get Tidus' celestial weapon actually required you to get *under* 0 seconds. I know this because I completed it in exactly 0.0 seconds, and did not get it. I think I broke my controller when that happened.

[@kstreet7438]

Yeah I've gotten that once. But it's not hard once you learn it

[@SlaveKnightGael]

After like 100 attempts, I ended up getting a perfect run with 15 balloons and 0 bird hits taken it was the most satisfying feeling completing that

[@DarksteelHeart]

Yeah it's under 0.0

[@doomoftheend]

and.. it's not even the only error in this video...

[@monotonecanadian6825]

Funny enough when I was in a perfect run at the finish line a bird spawned I front of me and I had no chance to react so my time was bumped up to 0.0 it made me rage so bad I never did it again it took me an hour to get a perfect run and after getting hit like that at the end did it for me

[@vraelatao2264]

Actually I had a lot more difficulty obtaining Tidus's weapon rather than lulu's. Once you know the trick it is quite easy to avoid the lightning, it just requires patience while tidus's is almost pure luck, as the chocobo race is so randomly difficult.

[@AdamChristopher82]

It was fun sneaking into those tombs under leveled to get the zodiac spear.

[@patrickbo2045]

Is there a comprehensive list on how many things you miss in FFIX if you rush for the Excalibur II ? Because honestly, Steiner doesn't need it, he can easily reach 9999 damage with the regular Excalibur.

[@MarcMarioMaster]

Never got Excalibur II as I never felt like rushing through the game just to quickly get to the end. ^^'

[@icessoup]

recommend using Alternate Fantasy mod on the Steam version, it lets you get the ExII sword through finding all treasures in the game except 3. I got it on my first one and got a perfect save file. The devs were really mean to lock a sword behind that to begin with lol

[@mentosmuncher]

I did it in highschool on ps2 and on steam a couple years ago but if course it was after I did a genuine play through. Reason I loved the game in the first place.

[@Lord_Xonaz]

Of geez, i just stsrted playing ff9 to relive childhood days. Dont remember much to the game. But to try and speed run through a 4 disc game in 12 hours. . . Im still on the first disc and its beem 7 hours, safe to say im not geting it lol

[@solnotsal]

MarcMarioMaster oh I just used a cheat code

[@mattmeeker7076]

Let the time pass 99:99 and then you can get it.

[@cgsweat]

The feeling of 'meh' you get from obtaining the Excalibur II does not make up for the constant anxiety of wondering if you're going to end up just a few seconds too late and if the 12 hours spent rushing to get it is just a waste of time.

[@unknownhuman2049]

Correction: You need to beat the trainer for sun sigil with a computed time of less than 0:00. Obtaining a flat 0:00 will not give you the sun sigil.

[@trevorlowry1333]

Learned that the hard way...

[@fluffyflare578]

Man, Onion Knight? Yeah, it was 200 lightning bolts, but there is a trick shown on many videos that make reaching that number trivial at most. Caladbolg was much harder to get. That race felt like it was based on skill, but the balloons changed positions each time, so you couldnnt just rely on skill alone. Like every celestial weapon was just simply time consuming, but that race? More rage than trying to beat DMC5 on HaH. I'll never forget that race, that music, those birds....that was my hell

[@Nasgatemk2]

Funny thing about the Tinkerbell is that far earlier in the rift you can grind out a rare drop from common encounters: Rune Bell which actually does more damage and gives element damage boosting to magic like rods do.

[@HippeusOmega]

I broke a ps2 controller over that damn chocobo race in X.

[@gdchrisregret4fall851]

I punched a TV.

[@AURON2401]

@@gdchrisregret4fall851 I threw my controller into my TV, and it fell on my Ps2 and it didn't work any more after that. We had to get another copy of X as-well as a new ps2 and TV.... Hah. Topped you both!

[@thisWinglessAngel]

Good to see xi on this list. (Or maybe not since acquiring said weapons is truly a chore)

[@SimBir08]

I used to play on Asura (the server he mentioned) still one of the most populated.

[@aldolond5179]

I also played on Asura, for many years. But happily migrated to XIV

[@jeffreygruman5764]

The lightning dodging is possible with the help of that certain area. Chocobo racing is harder. Butterfly dodging is absurd. In FF IX, jump roping is too hard.

[@hungerycascio]

I actually had the Onion Knight as a kid. I LOOOOOOVED it. And I was beyond thrilled when I did the lightning dodges.

[@gabrielolivares7665]

Obtained all celestial weapons in FFX at 35 years old. Never was able to back in the day. Being at home recovering from surgery I gamed for 2 months straight. Now I’m about to customize armors to take on the dark aeons

[@BBQsaucemix]

13:00 The devs intended to make it easier, not tougher than the first Ultimate fight. Around 5x more people have cleared Ultima compared to Undending Coil despite it coming a whole 7 months after.

[@fafnir9690]

Dude I know this video is old but you have no idea how happy it made me to see you make mention of FFXI relic weapons. That shit took people upwards of 1 year of constant dedication to get. I played back in the old days of FFXI. The golden age of MMOs. Naroom, CaitSith server.

[@MarcusSanchez2525]

Lulu’s ultimate weapon broke me. I ended my attempt to platinum FF 10 when I got to that part.

[@pristineentertainment6157]

Marcus Sanchez bro it’s not even hard you just need to know the trick. I got it within two hours of trying. There’s a dark spot one screen below rins agency and the lighting hits the same spot every time. It’s really not hard keep going dude. I’m currently stuck on dark anima I’m so damn close to my platinum!

[@Isac01]

Marcus Sanchez you know you can mimic it right? Just build an item with all the same stats. Getting the body piece already gives you access to the damage limit break. You dont need to get the finished product to get all the benefits.

[@pristineentertainment6157]

No you need to dodge the lightening to get platinum but trust me once you do the trick it’s really not that bad

[@toddm7367]

Justin Padron And ideas like that are the reason i had 224 hours on ffx ps2...... I had no life lol

[@ImLikeYouIHaveNoName247]

Here's a method that makes Lulu's weapon a cakewalk: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHWonIKpmM9-aLc The hardest ones for me are the infuriating chocobo race for Tidus, and the retarded fucking butterfly minigame for Kimahri's celestial weapon.

[@2smileystudios205]

I don't remember getting Lulu's ultimate weapon being that bad. In my head dodging the lightning required skill sure, but wasn't like hardcore difficult in my opinion. Getting through the chocobo race and blitzball is way worse at least for me.

[@fluffyflare578]

Same here! Running around the crater made it actually boring lol. But that race! I haven't that mad before at a race except Mario Kart on 150cc

[@Blackwind_Legacy]

@@fluffyflare578 me: Oh look, I'mm finally gonna get a 3 star circuit finish. Game: here's a blue turtle shell, 1 red, 2 insanely accurate greens, oil on your screen, and a banana...

[@fluffyflare578]

@@Blackwind_Legacy It really did feel like that lmao

[@revolutiondragon1156]

Blitzball was addicting

[@GRIMLOCK07]

I agree it wasn't Hardcore difficult, but it did require a couple things some players lack. A Dedicated Focus & Patience.

[@Loponstorm]

7:07 I was just thinking about replaying FFX since I lost my save file last year after my hard drive got fried, than you reminded me that I HAD done this on that save file... now I'm too depressed to start again. R.I.P.

[@Collin255]

I've done 200 lighting dodge 2 or 3 times in my life actually. Once on the PS2 version when I was like 14 and put over 400 hours easily into this game to literally have a Perfect file.( I even Level Up-ed all my Blitzball players to Lv 99. THAT TOOK AGES! And Maxed out the Sphere grid for all of my characters. And by that I mean getting tons of Clear Spheres and erasing things like +1, 2, or 3 Strength and replacing it with the max you can have for one spot which is +4 for Strength I believe. And I did it for every single spot on the sphere grid for every single character!) ANYWAYS lol I did the 200 dodges again so I could get the platinum trophy on the PS3 remaster. i adore this game, but imo FF Tactics, FF VII, and FF IX are all just a tad better than FF X. But FF Tactics, VII, and IX are all tied for my favorite game of all time so that essentially means FF X pretty much is too, or at least close enough. Also if you think 200 lightning dodges is hard......HA!. Try doing the 1000 jumps in a row in FF IX! I've only ever done it once in my life a LONG time ago, but unfortunately it is a trophy for the FF IX release on the PS4. It's the only trophy I don't have, but I know I've done it once in my life before so whatever lol.

[@aaronbrooks3259]

Lv.99 Collin took me about 345 or 350hrs for my perfect file. I lvoed blitzball so wasnt that bad for me. I loathed the stat upgrades for everyone though...annndd i still jave my ps2 memory card. The good ol days.

[@Collin255]

Aaron Brooks Bro same with me. And I LOVED the sphere grid concept. And honestly the only reason I went over 400 hours of gameplay time is because I probably spent 75 hours of that time playing Blitzball even after my characters were all maxed out just because I loved playing it so much. No joke haha. Man, FF X is such a masterpiece! 10\10 ..... and that's saying something because there's only a handful of games that I've ever given a perfect 10 out of 10 score and I've played over thousands of games throughout my lifetime. ( I'm 28 years old)

[@aaronbrooks3259]

Totallyy agree. Im 30. Been playing a long time. There are few games these days with such an in depth and well written plot. Its all open world or fps nowadays. Which is great but i dont have time to sit down and put in 300 hours into a game anymore :( though i did on MHW lol

[@andridirgantara7640]

Try doing 1000 jump rope in smartphone was a nightmare

[@sketchtheparadigmyork1217]

Just the fact that lightning returns was mentioned makes me happy. Thank you for not ignoring the 13 series

[@lilm777]

I actually did my 200 lightning bolts today for the first time. Feels good man.

[@kerilithia]

I would like to include Aerith's Ultimate Umbrella here. That thing was harsh to get and the game didn't tell you how to get it. So many points needed in that shooting rollercoaster game.

[@Michael-ft5bm]

I would hard disagree with lulu’s weapon being the hardest. Because there’s actually a loop next to a lightning rod you can run to force a lightning strike to trigger, then you can dodge. It’s actually becomes rhythmic. I listened to a podcast for 20 minutes while doing mine, and just added some extra dodges to make sure I didn’t count wrong. In comparison, those birds and blitzballs in Tidus’s challenge could fuck off.

[@mastermold10]

calling it, number one is going to be excalibur 2 *waits and watches*

[@GuitarGuy057]

Prysm Kitsune How's that working out for ya?

[@mastermold10]

i was correct, but i feel no happiness for it...it was too easy...geting that damn sword is sadisticly hard.

[@icessoup]

i always get ExII through mods, no way in hell im spending 200 hours to get a Perfect game via a guide, thats just hassle.

[@anthonymurano8494]

@@icessoup Or you could play the PS4 port and use the x3 and 9999 damage boosters to reach the final dungeon in approximately 8-10 hours depending on how quickly you do everything.

[@j800r]

Cloud's Ultima Weapon is not obtained through the main scenario. It is obtained for defeating the first of the optional bosses, Ultimate Weapon. Also, if you haven't yet obtained KotR then it's not all that simple to obtain. Yuffie's is one of the easiest. Barrett's is the only one obtained through natural scenario progression.

[@FinalFantasyUnion]

Not sure why I brain farted on that, but you're right! For some reason I had it in my head that the Ancient Forest was part of the main story and not an optional side-quest. Having said that, Ultimate Weapon is very easy to beat at that point in the game and I don't ever remember not doing that as his flying around everywhere is relatively annoying. ~Darryl

[@shibba2517]

Final Fantasy Union oh man...

[@yukikoamagi8829]

If I remember correctly Barrett's missing score would only appear on the stairs if Barrett was in the party when you raided on Disc 3.

[@44kryth]

And don't forget Can't Sith's Ultimate Weapon. Obtained from Shines Tower in the lockers. Can't remember what floor. Must have him in your party. And can only get it during the raid. I miss it most the time. I don't use Wait Sith unless I have to.

[@yukikoamagi8829]

@44kryth During the team's second raid on Shinra's Headquarters, you can pick up Cait Sith's ultimate weapon, the HP Shout, from a locker in the health spa located on the 64th floor. The locker is on the left side of the third row.

[@KraigFeury]

200 was easy, turn off all lights in your room, close your eyes, dodge when you see flash. profit.

[@Forbiddensirenz]

Lulu’s weapons still has me shaking to this day lmao

[@acrobat89]

The Onion Knight is actually one of the easiest ones to get. There is a spot where lightning is guaranteed to strike as soon as you step on the spot. Tidus's weapon is MUCH harder to get.

[@kstreet7438]

He is so easy. I did it on first try on both xbox and ps4. But I did expect to spend hours and not a few minutes

[@beepoasa]

The lighting one is definitely aids 😒😒

[@kassvalanar9190]

This is bait, 100%. I got Caladbolg so quickly. Including both upgrades one after the other.

[@acrobat89]

@@kassvalanar9190 sure you did.

[@kassvalanar9190]

@@acrobat89 lmao I actually did. I got the first upgrade as soon as possible. Then I got my 0.00 race time in 3 tries while actually trying to get it. Then I got Caladbolg. It was my first celestial! :D

[@brostomper]

I've played FFX many times since 2001 I have never gotten lulus weapon unlocked, along with fighting some of the dark aeons its just not worth it to me anymore.

[@DerpyDyne]

Tournesol? Really? If we are talking about the original Ff 12 then the Danjuro is waaaaay harder to get.

[@whathappenedtodorcas5372]

DerpyDyne It's actually relatively easy thanks to glitches. Took me about 2-3 hours for three of them.

[@DerpyDyne]

Erik Dahmen yes, with glitching. He's talking about legit

[@BPDeadspot]

Or ff XIIs Excalibur...

[@CRYSTALBEATZ]

for real man lol, that weapon was damn hard to get cuz of that Larva Eater.

[@darkslayer7682]

Lol i agree.

[@TheShakermaker0]

All the side content you had to skip to get Excalibur II made it not worth for me

[@windhelmguard5295]

funny thing is that you can actually wait for the timer to roll over to zero, don't know how long it takes, but it will happen.

[@TheShakermaker0]

Windhelm Guard it takes 1,067 days or 2.92 years o.O

[@squallstopher608]

AncientTyrant Having to constantly pause and read a guide is no way to play a game...

[@AncientTyrant]

@@squallstopher608 just memorize it

[@daegograndynte2771]

No it wont. The timer stuck at 99.59.99 once it reached the max and it does not reset. I have tried to wait for it normally and even change the data in the save editor. The time still move just that it only showed 99.59.99.

[@cronologic6332]

i know this is an old video but. i do wanna add there was a cursed shield in FF6 or FF3 on SNES you had every status effect one u and in order to break it your character had to use it in 256 battles. Once you unlock it it becomes the Paladin shield which blocks every attack.

[@aaronalexander4928]

I actually found the lightning dodging to be pretty easy. The spot shown in the video makes it very easy to time and as far as counting goes, I did 4 50 counts and then did 15 more just to make sure I hadn't missed one or 2. Yuna's nirvana on the other hand.. If you happened to miss the first destruction sphere in Besaid (which is easy enough to do because you are just starting), you had to kill the Dark Valefor to get it later. It has 800k life and does 9999 (your max health unless you have hp break armor) per attack and over 50k damage to everyone in the party for it's limit break. The rest were easy enough just time consuming. Wakka's world champion for instance. If you got lucky you only had to win 24 blitz ball games (2 tournaments and 2 leagues). It took me 46 wins I believe. 46 games times about 15 minutes each is over 11 hours of just blitzball.

[@agikai_]

I’m having PTSD from the hours even days put into getting all the celestial weapons in FFX

[@arosonomy]

Want more ptsd? You know the monster arena? Well some of the drops/items you can get let you change the sphere grid. I COLOR CODED IT All attack on one circle, magic etc. I... can't play X ever again.

[@randumo24]

@@arosonomy You did that many luck for every character?

[@arosonomy]

@@randumo24 Yup, Butterfly catching, thunder dodging, blitzball playing and all. You can make better weapons than the celestials too to make the monster arena way easier.

[@randumo24]

@@arosonomy Well, AP grinding weapons sure. I mean that Lulu sucks, and so does her weapon. Celestials only ignore defense, not magic defense. Her Celestial is a magic boosting weapon, but you can customize a weapon that boosts magic much further than her Celestial does. Lulu really is unquestionably the worst character in the game, and it's not close. Overdrives and Celestials are the only differences in the end game, and both of hers are the worst. Just like unquestionably the two best characters in the game are Rikku and Wakka.

[@randumo24]

@DeadMemes NeedToStayDead The differences endgame are overdrives and celestial weapons. That's why Lulu is the unquestionable worst character in the game. She has the clear worst of both. At least Kimahri's celestial weapon is good, and he has some technically useful support overdrives that are just outclassed by what Mix can do. Lulu's celestial weapon is trash, and her overdrive is actually worse than useless, because it will do less damage than a normal attack and slow your next turn lol.

[@soraa4622]

nice seeing the MMO games finally in your top tiers videos \o/

[@ThisIsTheTowne]

Came to ensure dodging 200 times was not unappreciated. Well done

[@jadeyladybug]

I’ve recently started playing FF X and X-2 again to show my fiancé the story. And since I lost my old guide book I came to KZbin and found your channel. Truly love and enjoy watching your channel for all things Final Fantasy. Also came into handy again when I didn’t have the answer to a question about X from my fiancé, and all I did was pull up your video recapping Tidas and it answered it for him. Does F.F.U have a Company on XIV?

[@solidsnake434]

I did the whole thunder dodging back in the day, I was counting out aloud and did 20 more just to be sure I didin't misscounted.

[@iamaptpupil]

Oh my God, I swear that I jumped when you mentioned that damn lightning minigame

[@guillermoolivaiii9550]

This video is awesome and thank you for including Final Fantasy XI! :)

[@nickfarron1892]

Where can you buy such an Ultima Fork, please give me a link I NEED THIS XD

[@Ryuukotsusei]

Totally agree with this list. I easily got all the FFX sigils except for Lulu’s on my old playthrough and even number 1 was exactly what I hoped for

[@seryph3140]

Venus sigil is pretty easy to get once you understand how to manipulate the lightning strikes. I still find chocobo race the most inconsistent due to there only being certain rng cycles you can even get 0.00 on.

[@double2254]

Heard Excalibur 2 and could only say yep...

[@ExistentHope]

That Excalibur II and Onion Knight weapons screw that games are supposed to be fun.

[@Ovenman940]

You don't have to get them. If you don't enjoy it but do it anyway, that's your own fault.

[@wiseguy240Winston]

Someone at SE should be fired for that god forsaken chocobo race. Satan himself made that shit lol. 😆

[@tiffanyxrose]

wiseguy240 Winston that's hands down the weapon they should've chosen. The chocobo race is BY FAR the hardest.

[@maybayV2]

Tiffany Rose it took me a few times to get, I think since I didn't spend no more than 20min on it I don't understand everyone's difficulty.

[@phoen1xashes708]

Its bullshit...I hated that chocobo race.

[@MrTheAngryLlama]

The only thing in my gaming history that has caused me to rage smash a controller was getting hit right at the end and having a time of .1s...

[@kaikwonfu2633]

Chcobos were easy for me, fuck the lightning though.

[@jrm78]

The Jupiter Sigil in FFX isn't completely horrible to acquire because recruiting Brother to your blitzball team as soon as you unlock the airship (he's the pilot) makes winning blitzball games mere formality afterward.

[@KharlanTree642]

At 10:52 for FFV the screen it showed for the job system is definitely not the base game that i know of. Is it a rom hack? If so, which one?

[@Midknight824]

I feel the Chocobo Race for the Sun Sigil is worse than the 200 lightning bolts

[@nsnick199]

Only time I've ever broken a controller right there.

[@darkhamishgaming2821]

I totally agree with you on this one ive never had a problem getting the 200 lightning dodged but that damn 0.00 sec for the chocobo race ive only ever done it 3 time out of the 5 times ive replay the game

[@hariman7727]

My thoughts of FFX ultimate weapons: *Raises double middle fingers and aims them at FFX.*

[@forevermagus7706]

Id rather do the lightning dodging over the chocobo race or butterfly game.

[@rabidrednek]

I got the venus sigil when I realized that when you cross from the southern zone to the northern zone lightning would pop after a couple seconds every time. So I'd cross to the north, dodge a bolt, go south, go north dodge a bolt and after a few tries to nail the timing it was just a matter of grinding for a couple hours. Getting 0.0 at that chocobo race, that was a pain.

[@remyoconnor3141]

Leaving the area resets the counter. So many people making up lies about an old game. So sad.

[@tanyaflanagan8111]

I broke a controller, a finger and my heart when I tried to get all the weapons in ffx. Hated the lightning bolts but did it with patience and lots of encouragement from hubby. Nothing compares to the pure hatred I have towards the blitzball(just sooo boring to me personally but defo worth doing for the weapon) and the chocobo races.....I get angry just thinking of it.

[@Pedro_Gregorio]

Tanya Flanagan i play blitzball just for Fun, lol! But The chocobo race was designed by a devil, im pretty sure of it.

[@SuperPhunStuff]

Being a diehard FFXI player back when it wasn't nerfed to make it easier/solo-able, I can confirm that things taking months of farming to obtain. Everything required a good group & guild to accomplish at end game. Things were challenging, required team synergy, and overall fun.

[@Communitychannel2001]

I remember abusing this strat where there was a spot that lightning would always strike, but it has since been forgotten. Surprisingly, took me little to no time to do it!

[@glaive616]

Haven’t even watched this yet, Tidus’s Calaborg better be number one.

[@onyxgarcia9752]

Glaive it’s super hard but not as hard as lulus lol

[@tchellovalente2373]

Chocobo race was kinda easy when you got the thing honestly

[@anthonydelfino6171]

Just me, but I found Lulu's weapon to be not too difficult on the PS2, but when I attempted to play it again later on the PS4 I found there was a problem that comes about with regard to a rendering delay from the system, meaning you had to use the cheese method to be able to complete it at all. That said, it actually wasn't too terrible on the PS2 since you could take cover at a lightning tower to take a break while dodging and pause the game if you're neurotic like me and want to make sure you won't get hit. Then you can do it in smaller chunks, like dodge 10-25 bolts then take a break. Additionally, I found it's not necessary to continue to dodge bolts once you've hit 200. Once I know I've hit 200 bolts dodged, I just run to the travel agency, getting hit by lightning the entire way, and I always got the sigil. Because of all those tricks, I would say that the sun sigil is much harder. It's the only one I never was able to get.

[@NewGrow-kb1bg]

On the ps4 version the delay is so bad you have to press x right before the lightening bolt appears while you do trick. I would always press it as Tidus’ foot hit the edge of the ditch before the bolt even flashed to ensure a dodge. Like you said, because of the render delay, if you wait until you see the flash, it’s already too late to get the dodge. It was much much easier on the ps2 on a crt then it is on a ps4 on an lcd. I was able to get it without even knowing about the cheese method as a kid on ps2 without much trouble, but on the ps4 version I can barely dodge a few bolts in a row without the cheese.

[@stevencollins8348]

Wow, that one for Steiner is pretty bad. Why would you even want to blow through the game that fast there is a lot to play. I think that's a poor decision by the devs

[@CarlSchwarber]

because its meant for completionist that need an extra challenge. no one sitting down the first time playing the game is going to go for it. pretty sure it was like my 5th or 6th play through when i got it.

[@blackwidow7804]

And you can still get 100% max stat with ex2.

[@palaguin]

I have played IX for years, but have never bothered with the Excalibur II. Steiner is one of the lesser characters and by having to speed thru you miss out on the grinding that is needed to make Steiner good. You will also miss out on all the sidequests that improves your other characters.

[@jnoirj3124]

+Steven Collins Yea, I think the way you have to get Steiner weapon was pretty bad myself. It would've been better if the timer started as soon as you step into Memoria, but instead you find a note or something with a riddle and a location. You basically travel from location to location around the world map solving riddles and or fighting tough bosses until eventually you complete them all within the time limit and then you can climb the tower and get the sword.

[@icessoup]

Carl Schwarber even then its for what purpose? Will you use that save? I used Alternate Fantasy mod that changed the way to get it: You need 100% treasures and can only miss 3 in the entire game. I got it my first try and i have all weapons and items in the game. Now thats fun but speedrunning for 1 item, only to never use it because you missed all items... I dont get it sry

[@fightmagestudio4478]

I personally disagree with the choice of Celestial Weapon. The only one I haven't been able to acquire is Tidus' Caladbolg from that Chocobo racing game. For me, that one is still impossible to actually do. When doing the lightning dodges I just kind of hit a state of focus where I was able to do it (And oh MAN was I in a weird spot after. Had to stand up and blink for a few minutes) and Blitzball gets progressively easier as you do it. But that chocobo race...Can't do it, and because it doesn't impact any summoning damage I probably won't lol

[@HighQualityLeftover]

Bro i feel you on that opening statement of FF10's ultima weapons. I had the strategy guide (and still do), but not even that thing could help me.

[@sincitysinner9239]

In the original Final Fantasy 12 release for the PS2, wasn't it possible to screw yourself out of getting the zodiac spear if you opened some random chests in the beginning of the game? I can't remember exactly because it's been years since I played 12, but it seems like I remember there was some dumb shit about opening certain treasure chests throughout the game. The zodiac spear was the best weapon in the game, but most players never got to use it because they did what everyone who has ever played a Final fantasy does and opened every chest they find. That is one of the fucking pillars of playing a final fantasy game; you explore caves and dungeons, kill monsters and level up, and open fucking treasure chests, lol. Why would the developers do something so fucking stupid like punishing players for opening treasure chests? They way they did it was extra dick move too. Who plays final fantasy and early in the game doesn't open every treasure chest, besides speed runners? Who thinks to themselves, "I better not open these treasure chests because I don't want to miss out on the ultimate weapon later in the game!" What were they thinking ?!?!

[@ThundagaT2]

You can screw yourself out of the 100% chest with the Zodiac Spear yes. But the weapon itself is never missable. As there's another chest in the Henne mines (on the path to Zodiark) that has another one, but the chance of getting it from that chest is 0.1% chance (10% spawn, 10% it contains an item, and 10% that item is the spear)

[@ahmadgrb5055]

ThundagaT2 I've got 5 zodiac spears from the henne mines. Imagine how much time it took :)

[@ThundagaT2]

Well I got mine in Zodiac Age in like an hour... lol

[@tulioricci]

It's a retarded way to add replay value to the game

[@keskes1338]

It was missable in the original. I know the pain well. I started over just for that weapon after getting FAR into the game.

[@WeIsDaTyrantz]

A few notes on the Tournesol: High-level enemies, specific Mark quests and Hunts can drop High Arcanas but that's very rare. To actually make High Arcanas in a reasonable time frame, you need to get the Canopic Jar (which is in itself a bazaar item locked behind 3 Mark quests). Serpentarius is a near-guaranteed steal from Zodiark with the right thief setup, the strongest Esper (probably the 4th most powerful enemy in the game) and is a guaranteed reward for defeating him. You get one free Gemsteel for acquiring 8 Espers and one can drop from the extremely rare hunt, the Lv99 Red Chocobo. You get one free Empyreal Soul for reaching the High Guardian rank in the Clan. Yeah, it still doesn't cancel out how tedious it is to get what is arguably not even the strongest weapon but it does mitigate some of the difficulty. Honestly getting the Wyrmhero Blade is harder.

[@warailawildrunner5300]

And by the point of getting the wrymhero blade - it's pointless as you've already defeated everything.

[@aaronbrooks3259]

Waraila wildrunner whats the point right? Would of made yiazmat that much quicker. Though i love that fight.

[@loremasterdasmodeus8285]

Considering you need to defeat Yiazmat to get it... its a bragging rights reward.

[@aaronbrooks3259]

Lord Templar Dasmodeus Hittus lol thats what im saying. Kinda silly having a useless weapon. Bragging rights as you say though.

[@steveh1474]

actually, Wyrmhero Blade is Holy Element, and Yiazmat absorbs Holy. it wouldnt make him quicker, itd make his 50 MILLION health turn into 50 BILLION, or more!

[@bskilla4892]

Stein's weapon is the worse bc it forces you to steam roll through the game and not enjoy it.

[@sweet_sukeban4022]

BS Killa was probably meant for the second playthrough

[@grandmasternyx1514]

was intended for low lvl speedruns...easier on ps1 so you can open the disc tray and skip cutscenes(save time). Otherwise. yes not that great when you have better.

[@mattmeeker7076]

Just let the timer pass 99:99 and then you can get it.

[@xenxander]

@@mattmeeker7076 I thought the timer froze at 99:99:99 and would always read that time once it hit. I'm pretty sure that's the case.

[@666Kaca]

@@mattmeeker7076 Its not enough. The timer doesnt stop after 99:59, it goes on, the color of the timer turns from white to red. You have to let the timer go for 2 years if you want it to reset.

[@Hawk767]

The lightning dodging ended up being one of the easier challenges for me. The tip I'd found was to hit 25 dodges at a time, take a quick break, and go again, made it very easy to keep track of the count. The chocobo race was a fucking nightmare though.

[@nerdynord4315]

A bit of a kick in the teeth for achieving Excalliber 2 for Steiner on FF9. Once you get it, there's only the final room left, which has three boss fights. And that's it. Hardly time enough to truly enjoy getting the best weapon for him.

[@rawpure]

Got all weapons in FFX , the hardest was getting 0.0 seconds in the race tho

[@SirForcEdge]

It had to be better than 0.0 seconds. Literally negative time. That race was a nightmare

[@sabrsmith5575]

I found lightning harder than this one, lightning misses were hellish.

[@donpowers8331]

Dodging 200 bolts of lightning is a mild speed bump. You are in complete control. Winning that damn chocobo race with Tidus is nearly impossible. If the balloons don’t spawn just right, you have to waste 3 minutes and try again. If the balloons do spawn just right and you get hit by more than one bird it’s still a loss and you have to do it over. At least on the lightning you can do 10 at a time and rest under the tower. Once the race begins that’s it until you cross the finish line.

[@FinalFantasyUnion]

Don Powers it’s a very good point. It really comes down to your personal preference. I always liked catcher Chocobo because although it was hard, you were at least doing something a bit different each time. Whereas Lulu’s you literally just had to keep doing the same thing over and over and over again and if you screwed it up... that was it. There was no sort of getting better at dodging... it was either you do it right, or you don’t. I would do catcher chocobo 100x over Lightning dodging. -Lauren

[@jarons4305]

The tidus chocobo race pissed me off😂😂

[@icessoup]

Lol chocobo race super easy. It doesnt come close to the weapons in the video. Just race for few secs and try again. How can you have patience for dodging in boring 20min each try while few secs race is harder lol. It should be ranked mayne the 250th hardest weapon in FF. Way too easy.

[@elizabethtoone9928]

Won the Chocobo race once and swore I'd never replay the game because of what a pain it was. I attempted the lightning bolts multiple times but decided I didn't like the game enough to go through minutes and hours of hitting x when I saw a flash.

[@Golden_Legend]

All Final Fantasy X weapons were amazing to achieve! It’s was a real pain in the ass but at least it was worth it

[@shadowofchaos725]

FF14's The Weapon's Refrain was definitely the hardest one to obtain for me personally out of the ones in the list I have done. This is simply due to the fact you have to deal with scheduling 7 other people together to try and grind it out. It's not a question of your determination. But a question of your endurance. My group being non-savage raiders before starting the group... It took over a year to finally defeat Ultima Weapon. Despite it being old content... Unlike other content in 14, it will never get any easier other than the miniscule differences and job balance changes that happens in each patch. Phew. It really put a smile on my face seeing an entry on that fight in this video.

[@georgemercer402]

The ones I had a problem acquiring weren't really ultimate weapons, but actually were rare steals: the dragon Lance from a crystal dragon and Artemis bow (I think) from the wind drake in FF5. The former would usually have an elixir while the latter yielded a trident, so luck and patience would need to be on your abundant side