Top 9 Heroes 3 (HOMM) Level 3 Creatures.

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Richi Abosuli

Richi Abosuli

6 жыл бұрын

This was the hardest level for me to rank, so my opinion about this is debatable.
Pictures were taken from the Internet, and I don't own the tracks.

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@ironbiceps8134
@ironbiceps8134 3 жыл бұрын
Dragonflies are the best. They usually get the first turn, meaning that you get to cast spell first. All other Fortress units are slow as shit. Also the dispel-ability is awesome!
@ironbiceps8134
@ironbiceps8134 3 жыл бұрын
I cast anti-magic on Arch Angels thinking that would make them invincible. Dragonflies hit them and the dispel worked. Then on the next turn Angels got Implosion.
@Theemeetreeos
@Theemeetreeos Жыл бұрын
Great vids. side note Wraiths have regeneration, every turn they start with full HP.
@thatdudewelove8498
@thatdudewelove8498 6 жыл бұрын
I think dragon flies should've easily been rank 2 since they make great scouts, distractions, and blocking shooters. Very valuable in PvP, but thats just me.
@fxalexei
@fxalexei 6 жыл бұрын
it's a tough choice between a strong creature with an annoying special but overall not so important in the castle line up ( the griffin) compared to a weaker unit but way more useful to the fortress ( the dragonfly ) ^^
@scottgrasser9475
@scottgrasser9475 4 жыл бұрын
@@fxalexei i find the dragonfly always ends up with low numbers late game with faster tier suff (or them getting first spell) often getting them killed before they can use there power
@brianmayabella5992
@brianmayabella5992 3 жыл бұрын
It is if it is in good numbers.
@knesseli7664
@knesseli7664 6 жыл бұрын
I waited for this video, and I agree with all
@grawling
@grawling 6 жыл бұрын
Personally i like the dragonflies the most. Fortress really benefits from such a fast unit and in hero vs hero battles the dispel+weakness is so powerful.
@fxalexei
@fxalexei 6 жыл бұрын
giving dragonflies to your scouting heroes as soon as day 1 also makes the fortress heroes the fastest one on the map :)
@mcgoergl
@mcgoergl 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos thanks for bringing back old memories. I think griffin.is better since grand elves always get focused on so getting a great number of them is rather difficult
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! Yes that's the biggest problem about elves, they die very fast. Having resurrection will help a lot.
@knesseli7664
@knesseli7664 6 жыл бұрын
Good video I see why it was hardest for u
@Paskovitchz
@Paskovitchz 5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean "contributes to dungeon?"
@TheTchamber
@TheTchamber 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering that, too.
@scottgrasser9475
@scottgrasser9475 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTchamber fills a very important roll that is not filled by other units in that faction
@TheTchamber
@TheTchamber 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottgrasser9475 Thanks for the response. I think that the "pro: contributes to the Dungeon" was just ambiguous, and it threw me off. Love this game, been playing HD Mod, HotA lately.
@bjrnification
@bjrnification 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate these but it would be great to have "cleaner" looking text slides (not red on black) also maybe voice over discussing each creature?
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly my english is not good enough for narration..
@paulvontarsus729
@paulvontarsus729 5 жыл бұрын
I'd say royal griffins are the best in most situations.
@paulvontarsus729
@paulvontarsus729 3 жыл бұрын
@Well Played Yeah I noticed more recently how weak they hit.
@bosspoke
@bosspoke 3 жыл бұрын
@Well Played Their dmg is low? Uhm no? Let's compare a weeks growth worth of level 3 creature's + special buildings that increase numbers. We consider base dmg and small comment on attack/defence. 1. Grand elves: Growth 14. Dmg: 84-140 with straight arrow. High att, low def. 2. Royal griffins: Growth 14 (+3). Dmg: 51-102. High att/def. 3. Cerberus: Growth 10 (+3). Dmg: 26-91. High attack, Good def. 4. Ice elemental: Growth 12. Dmg: 36-84 with straight arrow. Good att, high def. 5. Dragonfly: Growth 16. Dmg: 32-80. Good att, high def. 6. Evil eye: Growth 14. Dmg: 42-70 with straight arrow. High att, good def. 7. Wraith: Growth 14. Dmg: 42-70. Ok att/def. 8. Iron golem: Growth 12. Dmg: 48-60. High att/def. 9. Orch chieftain: Growth 14. Dmg: 28-70 with straight arrow. Good att, low def. All ranged units will often have half dmg because of range or because they are engaged in melee (except evil eye). Ranged units tend to die fast so they need protection to be valuable later on. Cerberus can deal more dmg if he hits 2-3 targets. 3 targets is unlikely but 2 is possible. They also don't have to worry about retaliation so that's a bonus. Royal griffins has unlimited retaliations, they are tanky, can fly, and fast. Unlimited retaliations means that they potentially have a double/triple/quadruple attack, depending on how many enemies attack them. Consistently they have the highest dps among tier 3, only beaten by Grand elves in situations where they get to fire off at will. And the niche cases of cerberus tri-head attack. There's no doubt that grand elves are super important for Rampart and I really like them. But they are vulnerable and won't always perform if enemies focus them down. Royal griffins can't be focused down, and still they will pose a threat to the enemy. So overall I'd say they are the best.
@aproapemasini6066
@aproapemasini6066 5 жыл бұрын
The Griffins suffer from the same issue as the Thunderbird. They are the only flyer in their line-up (until you get angels for castle) and are usually sent into the middle of the enemy and so they quickly get focused on and killed.
@brianmayabella5992
@brianmayabella5992 3 жыл бұрын
If youre using auto attack bcoz it will. Thunderbird is my most pick creature for Stronghold. Easy to get and can sweep dwellings and resources. Griffin is good in good numbers. High cost is their cons
@brugarsoldschoolgaming3832
@brugarsoldschoolgaming3832 6 жыл бұрын
Wraiths also heal some of their hit points every turn
@LaineyDragonair
@LaineyDragonair 4 жыл бұрын
Brugar's Old School Gaming that’s what I was thinking?? We are missing a huge point of the wraith. That surely makes them a higher rank!
@babasemka
@babasemka 4 жыл бұрын
Not some - all of the HP
@hungrymikepencetd5686
@hungrymikepencetd5686 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaineyDragonair i like that ability at the start of the game, because you wont lose much of them against monsters.
@malchir4036
@malchir4036 3 жыл бұрын
@@hungrymikepencetd5686 If you have wraiths at the start of the game you're doing it wrong. They upgrade is expensive and black knight are far better.
@brianmayabella5992
@brianmayabella5992 3 жыл бұрын
@@malchir4036 agreed. Theyre waste of resources. Wraiths are 2nd worst after zombie. If limited resources i wouldnt recruit it
@radwellii3646
@radwellii3646 6 жыл бұрын
The Devil eye upgrade is beholder
@babasemka
@babasemka 4 жыл бұрын
Evil eye
@agbrenv
@agbrenv 6 жыл бұрын
good job with the video, glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks Dragon Flies are not terrible, high speed and the specials make them a tactical unit to annoy enemies really looking forward to level 2 and level 1 and if you do the non upgraded creatures list I'll be anticipating that as well keep up the good work :)
@DoomedDragonz
@DoomedDragonz 2 жыл бұрын
Only cons I can think of for both Cerberus and Griffins are their dwellings in towns aren't a prerequisite for building the higher level dwellings, meaning you wont need to build either Kennels or Griffin Tower to get higher level creatures.
@petervlcko4858
@petervlcko4858 4 ай бұрын
Sort of true. That why when i play i buy them because i want them. I usually do not thinking about devil like i was when i was younger. Now i pick cerbery and magogs and also upgrade familiars. I go for spell power and 2nd level of tower to have blind or some attack spell. I am fine if i get Efretty first week and devil second. My magic is fire. Bloodlust + offense skill. Curse + blind. Or just smashing face with attacking splash spells. Cerberus line up with this strategy quite well. At the end of the day have them 50 could be easier then get let say 50 mercury for devils and in most of the fights they will do the same trick and are fast on map of adventure too.
@DoomedDragonz
@DoomedDragonz 4 ай бұрын
@@petervlcko4858 both Cerberus and Griffin are too good to ignore in their respective towns
@lamhonwei2383
@lamhonwei2383 6 жыл бұрын
You should create the top 10 best secondary skills in homm3.
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
Yes I will do that after I will finish the strongest creatures lists
@CragHack
@CragHack 6 жыл бұрын
Lam Hon Wei 1. logistics 2. wisdom 3. offense 4. tactics 5. earth magic 6. air magic 7. armorer 8. diplomacy 9. water magic 10. fire magic
@stralopicstralopic1460
@stralopicstralopic1460 6 жыл бұрын
After, there will be a video for level 2 creatures ?
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@fredericbouchardwong4596
@fredericbouchardwong4596 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to add that also, the grand elf is very fast for a shooter
@jorda229
@jorda229 2 жыл бұрын
for royal griffins I would put as a con that they can be killed very fast by shooters, especially in range
@kurzackd
@kurzackd 6 жыл бұрын
name and artist of last song playing pls?
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
Cliff Lin - Dawn Awaits
@mkaali
@mkaali 6 жыл бұрын
What is the song at 1:30 ?
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
Cliff Lin - Dawn Awaits
@KallenSC
@KallenSC Жыл бұрын
I would put like this: 1. Ice elemental (High HP, nice damage) 2. Cerberus(Quick tank in Inferno) 3. Iron Golem (Tank with good damage! great in long battle, without him, battle is lost) 4. Dragonfly (Really fast and useful on begin of any battle, should be higher but dies really quick in bigger battles) 5. Grand Elf (great shooter, but even stupid AI reduce him too fast!) 6. Royal Griffin...(Flying quick, but for me a bit too low HP) 7. Evil Eye - medicore unit 8. Orc Chieftain (meh unit) 9. Warith - the weakest unit for sure....but as neutral on begins might be really annoying for low mana users.
@Tristan-nb6ld
@Tristan-nb6ld 6 жыл бұрын
You should do unupgraded units after you finish upgraded.
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
Yes maybe, that is a good idea.
@Tristan-nb6ld
@Tristan-nb6ld 6 жыл бұрын
;)
@agbrenv
@agbrenv 6 жыл бұрын
would be interesting, since a lot of creatures would shift spots, also towns like Tower and Inferno would be interesting since Inferno is pretty good unleveled since they barely get better stats other than speed and special when leveled up and Tower is pretty bad due to very slow units and 2 ranged units being melee units when not leveled up
@rhadooh
@rhadooh 6 жыл бұрын
The game already has all The creatures ranked. You can check your most powerful creature at Thieves Guild. Create a map with 2 heroes and a thieves guild. Place in your ranks all 9 creatures of lvl 3. Check the thieves guild for the most powerful. Dismiss it. Check again for the 2nd most powerful, dismiss it and so on.
@Scott4NJD
@Scott4NJD 5 жыл бұрын
Thieves guild shows creature with the highest HP not the best overal.
@pyroxenez3704
@pyroxenez3704 Жыл бұрын
@@Scott4NJD That is not correct. Every creature has a hidden "AI value". The thieves' guild determines the strongest creature using this value. Nothing to do with the creature's HP. For example, Archangels have an AI value of 8776 and are ranked higher than Black Dragons which have an AI value of 8721. Even though Archangels have less HP than Blackies.
@ksi4621
@ksi4621 6 жыл бұрын
Wraths with there mana drain are good in small maps and are not that bad
@paw1ak_248
@paw1ak_248 5 жыл бұрын
Wraths and zombies are Good for skeletons
@krazs908
@krazs908 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed they're great for first week rushes. just split em and enjoy them mana drainz
@snobey
@snobey 3 жыл бұрын
Cerberus cons: very low damage with curse and no blessing in inferno magic guild
@anhhai-rm9ce
@anhhai-rm9ce 3 жыл бұрын
that actually pro they die faster to get ressurection to Demon
@dziwnypanzestreama7769
@dziwnypanzestreama7769 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with this list but my favorite is Griffin wuth speed speed on expert then he fly very far and do a lot of damage. Is good 4 me m8 XD Ps what happens when you do all top 9 creatures in (HOMM3) level X creatures?
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
I would probably do best artifacts, spells, secondary skills etc.. and afrer that maybe I will do lively comparisons and analysis of certain creatures.
@dziwnypanzestreama7769
@dziwnypanzestreama7769 6 жыл бұрын
Richi Abosuli ok thank you for response :D Ps i will be glad to see that XD
@lolagainmateusz8883
@lolagainmateusz8883 Жыл бұрын
Dragonfies we're so annoying fighting against because of the poison i hated them fighting against them, but it was fun using them
@CragHack
@CragHack 6 жыл бұрын
Heads up for lvl 1 and lvl 2 videos - don't make a mistake and not put air elementals and centaurs on no. 1. ;)
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
We will see :) one thing is for sure, they will be at top 3.
@CragHack
@CragHack 6 жыл бұрын
Richi Abosuli honestly, can't be nowhere else than no. 1, both of those. halberdiers and wolf riders are not too far off, but still can't touch centaurs or air elementals. lvl 3 is definitely the toughest one, the rest are easy (except for dread knight / naga queen never-ending debate).
@papasmurf5573
@papasmurf5573 6 жыл бұрын
dread knights are to expensive and death blow is random while nagas have no ret,dread knights to overrated
@kamilbuszta6596
@kamilbuszta6596 3 жыл бұрын
Cerberus con is being inferno unit
@gio1773
@gio1773 6 жыл бұрын
Golems and evil eyes deserve a higher place, nevertheless still a good video
@Tristan-nb6ld
@Tristan-nb6ld 6 жыл бұрын
There are too many good units, who would you replace them with?
@fxalexei
@fxalexei 6 жыл бұрын
golems are slow and evil eyes are overpriced so
@osrictemper4225
@osrictemper4225 5 жыл бұрын
Is it worth it to upgrade water elemental to ice elemental?
@pedro6508
@pedro6508 3 жыл бұрын
yes cuz they become shooter when upgraded
@bosspoke
@bosspoke 3 жыл бұрын
Water elementals aren't very good. Ice elemental is decent enough, but still not the best. You'd want them to have the ranged pressure. It's more important to uppgrade the water elementals than the air elementals since they perform well before uppgrade.
@brianmayabella5992
@brianmayabella5992 Жыл бұрын
For a hefty price. All conflux units must be upgraded to or theyll be useless. Unlike other towns, non upgrade units are still good likeMinotaur, liches, beholder, mage and many more.
@DOGEreal
@DOGEreal Жыл бұрын
They aren't
@joeschmoe3665
@joeschmoe3665 5 жыл бұрын
The elves have to be guarded or enemy slowed just like marksmen a real glass canon
@brianmayabella5992
@brianmayabella5992 Жыл бұрын
Elves are top tier PvM. Which propel to high powr spike. But on pvp not so much, however, they always be threat
@KamusRetroGamer
@KamusRetroGamer 5 жыл бұрын
I only change Evil eye in 3rd and firefly in 4th
@bosspoke
@bosspoke 5 жыл бұрын
My list goes as followed: 1. Royal griffins (Very high growth, and durable making them always highly populated. Strong because of numbers. Flier, fast, unlimited retaliation. The most useful unit in castle along with Archangel.) 2. Dragonfly (Exellent speed, great for scouts. Decent dmg with bless, which you should have as foretress. Dispels & weakens. Suprisingly durable with beastmasters) 3. Grand elves (Sweet dmg, reasonably quick. Vulnerable and not good for close quarters. Absolutely necessary for Rampart) 4. Evil eye (Good dmg, also reasonably quick, quite durable, attacks hard in melee aswell. Overall a nice shooter that you'll usually have plenty of.) 5. Cerberus (Good speed, & can tank some hits. The possiblity to hit hardest of all lvl 3 bcus of triple attack. Immense dmg range makes them a bit lackluster unless you bless'em which ain't common in inferno.) 6. Iron golem (Very solid defensive unit which is one of the hardest units ingame to kill bcuz of spell resist. Not extremely slow, but slow. Good dmg. Slows down hero on map but guards the town really well. Tower consists of 3 shooters which it will defend very well.) 7. Wraith (Has a good ability for early game fights, but it quickly fades in usefulness. A not very fast flier who has low health. Its dmg is ok, but goes down as its numbers dwindle. Useful for spell point drain shenanigans prior to hero fights.) 8. Ice elemental (Average dmg, hard to kill, weak in melee. Quite slow. Has some immunities and weaknesses. Though its weaknesses aren't very likely to be abused. Overall a decent shooter.) 9. Orc chieftain (Not very high dmg. More durable than elves but lackluster as shooter. Slow. Not entirely useless, but it falls behind.)
@brianmayabella5992
@brianmayabella5992 Жыл бұрын
Goodlist. Griffin and dragonfly are the best. Griffin has more edge bcoz of their hp while dragonfly are soft and kinda prices building cost. Dragonfly however has its own usage like preying on archers, fast unit for battle initiative, dispeller and weakens unit. Royal griffin IS the best , u put shield on them and enemy melee units will think twice. Also agree with ur #6, pretty much Iron golem role bcoz the army slot will be filled by master genie and tower units is kinda expensive recruits.
@Tristan-nb6ld
@Tristan-nb6ld 6 жыл бұрын
Good list and I agree with most. I'd have to go 9. Wraiths 8. Orc Chieftains 7. Ice Elementals (Too damn expensive) 6. Iron Golems (5 Speed just too slow in most cases) 5. Cerberus (Lowest growth, 2-7 damage inconsistent but very good with bless ofc) 4. Evil Eyes (No melee penalty is excellent) 3. Dragon Flies (13 speed is just ridiculously good in every situation) 2. Royal Griffins (9 speed, relatively cheap, very versatile) 1. Grand Elves (Marksmen roided up) * Sea Dogs miles above everything else....
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
Nice list, Sea dogs are are the level 3 shooters from Cove right ? If I remember they have 2 upgrades ?
@Tristan-nb6ld
@Tristan-nb6ld 6 жыл бұрын
Richi Abosuli Yes they are and they are very expensive but easily the best level three unit
@arnigeir1597
@arnigeir1597 6 жыл бұрын
I'd put the flies a bit higher, they are actually allot more tanky then people think (for a 3rd lvl), because of the weakness they suffer less from retaliations, and have good defense. the elves and sea dogs are are objectively strong but they die every time because they can't tank and get targeted all the time.
@Tristan-nb6ld
@Tristan-nb6ld 6 жыл бұрын
13 speed is insane for a third level unit. Fastest unit till efreet sultans. So I agree to a degree.
@KutaphoneX
@KutaphoneX 3 ай бұрын
Useless comparision, cerberus is No.1 cause it wins all straight fights against other units of 3 lvl. It has a disadvantage though; it's the only unit in game that has reduced dmg once upgraded ( from 2-7 to 2-5 ) You've said that griffins will always retaliate, which is an obvious lie, cause it will not retaliate to every unit that counters retaliations.
@hungrymikepencetd5686
@hungrymikepencetd5686 3 жыл бұрын
I think lvl 3 creatures are fairly all not so bad. There is not one real crap unit. The orc chieftains and Wraiths are good at start: The orcs can shoot and the Wraiths heal themselves. So you can avoid many losses. The golems are slow, but really good in the fight itself. But ye, especially the Grand Elves are way better.
@trancelations
@trancelations 4 жыл бұрын
you rated the best lvl 3 unit lowest :(, it would beat any other lv3 unit in a 1v1 because of the wounds closing every round
@hungrymikepencetd5686
@hungrymikepencetd5686 4 жыл бұрын
I love these ghosts too :D. They look like trolls
@scobtsovjenya6620
@scobtsovjenya6620 2 жыл бұрын
Pros: very useful unit. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@knesseli7664
@knesseli7664 6 жыл бұрын
Just one thing I love Cerberus more than Griffins and I think Cerberus are stronger than Griffins
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
Very reasonable.
@knesseli7664
@knesseli7664 6 жыл бұрын
Richi Abosuli lol that is how I see it thanks for Replay
@blackwidow7804
@blackwidow7804 6 жыл бұрын
1v1 Cerberus wins but thats not real picture becouse you have much more Griffins. Cerberus is also more targeted by AI but Griffin is not becouse unlimited retaliation. Griffin is also more versatile becouse its flier. Hell Hound also really need to be upgradet (no retaliation) if you want use them early on. Griffin will do the job early just fine. And the biggest problem for Cerberus is the low growth. Lets say you buy first week building and citadel. Thats 7 vs 5. Next week you get 10 vs 7 and you buy Castle and horde building so in 3rd week you get 17 vs 13. So in 3rd week you have 34 Griffins vs 25 Cerberus.
@agbrenv
@agbrenv 6 жыл бұрын
1 vs 1 the Cerberus will obviously win since it has a special that negates the special of the Griffins, I personally prefer Cerberus over Griffin, but I also believe the usefulness of the Griffin is more consistent and dependable which makes them a bit better, Cerberus is just a personal preference for me since it is probably the most standout unit Inferno has when you compare creatures level to level
@ulmersglue6552
@ulmersglue6552 6 жыл бұрын
No Griffins are better with unlimited retaliation making them hard to focus and fast fliers. Can't be passed up.
@user-pp7pf4sy8x
@user-pp7pf4sy8x 3 жыл бұрын
Griffins are the best undoubtfully
@pr0gressd
@pr0gressd 6 жыл бұрын
ice elementals are #1/2, price is not a concern in real skill games
@yoannmarchesse988
@yoannmarchesse988 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao. if a unit is not worth it's price, better and cheaper units will be better, so you lose. In highest difficulty especially, gold is a scarce ressource you want to use wisely
@denkigama5331
@denkigama5331 6 жыл бұрын
Cerberus have low min damage
@Mirrodin82
@Mirrodin82 6 жыл бұрын
Some of the arguments don't make any sense. Like "very useful unit" wtf?!?
@sergeyb.8112
@sergeyb.8112 6 жыл бұрын
Cerberus and ice elementals are too underestimated, imho. Ice elementals are very tenacious (comparing to elves, for instance). And cerberus with bless are more dangerous than elves. And royal griffins are not so good. They're average in everything and their ability isn't very good. My list: 9. Wraiths 8. Iron golems (if you need them you're probably close to defeat) 7. Orcs 6. Royal griffins (same as golems, though they're faster) 5. Ice elementals (hard to defeat and good damage with bless) 4. Dragon flies (ultimate speed, tenacious) 3. Evil eyes 1/2. Cerberus, Grand elves
@ditonatschkebia779
@ditonatschkebia779 4 жыл бұрын
I would say 9) orcs 8) wraith 7) royal griffin 6) elves 5iron golems 4) ice elementals 3)evil eyes 2) cerberys 1) dragon flies
@CragHack
@CragHack 6 жыл бұрын
No way. Iron golems 5th?! They are easily no. 1, unless we count growth in, then it's the griffins by quite some margin. Elves on no. 3.
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
I agree about griffins, but golems are just too slow, their best use is to be a defender for Tower shooters, they aren't as good melee units as griffins or cerberus.
@CragHack
@CragHack 6 жыл бұрын
Richi Abosuli I get your point, but that is their ONLY weakness, easily nulified with a single spell. Top stats, good special, cast haste on them and they KICK ASS.
@mrrhombus716
@mrrhombus716 6 жыл бұрын
Cast slow on them and they become even worse. You can't count on being able to cast haste when you want, especially with Tower's slow ass units.
@fxalexei
@fxalexei 6 жыл бұрын
Elves are number 1 because they are the most useful, golems on the other hand ....
@arnigeir1597
@arnigeir1597 6 жыл бұрын
it's tricky because the elves always die, and the golems rarely reach fights until it's too late, even if they have the best stats, beholders will outnumber them eventually with their base growth, higher hp and being defend able in melee.
@sebastianzajdel412
@sebastianzajdel412 6 жыл бұрын
I think u can divide the creatures into 3 groups : Gucci: -Grand elves bc they pew pew asf -Griffons very good all around and very nice for sieging -eyes bc they all go on Tupac and it's nice that they have decent health and no melee penalty so they don't need tanky fuckbuddy Al the time like elves and marksmen Mediocre: -Golemeys aren't too bad for holding hands with archers so considering their purpose, their speed doesn't hurt too much in defense -dankflies bc they fast as fuk boii but not much else -ice elemeleles average pew pewers not too shabby but need a small loan of a milli to get hold of Not for me but maybe good.?.? -douges are underwhelming for me bc it's hard to set up multihex attack vs something with brain -spookies suck not only mana but also your will to play necro I don't play with orcs so I don't know about leaflet throwers from fortress. All I know about fortress is that their only dwelling is behemoth redistribution centre.
@ulmersglue6552
@ulmersglue6552 6 жыл бұрын
I think I would throw Golems at the very bottom. Useless unit. Also late game Griffins have the most impact out of all these units. I would give them the edge over the Grand Elfs because of that.
@brianmayabella5992
@brianmayabella5992 Жыл бұрын
But expensive
@blackwidow7804
@blackwidow7804 6 жыл бұрын
Level 3 is one of the hardest to choose. Last 2 places are obvious. I also agree with Ice Elemental to be at no 7. They are slow and big which means easy to block which is a problem with melee penalty. From no 6 to 1 its a bit tricky becouse each unit have its own tactical usage/role. I personaly disagree that Grand Elf is no.1. Its always focused and dies fast and if blocked its useless. They are great at clearing map but thats it. Dragon Fly is also a bit too high for me. My placing: 1. Royal Griffin 2. Evil Eye 3. Cerberus, Iron Golem, Grand Elf (Cerberus problem is low base growth, Golems are too slow, Elves are from paper, all 3 units really need upgrade to be used properly unlike no 1-2 which are good in the beginning even not upgraded) 6. Dragon Fly 7. Ice Elemental 8. Orc Chieftain 9. Wraith
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
Yes this was very hard to rank, I knew that there will be some disagreements. I like your list, I agree with number 3 that all creatures are around the same level, but personally I would also put there Dragon flies and Evil eyes. Evil eyes are not that better than the ones you placed at number 3, and Dragon flies are really fast and have a nice ability. last 2 are obvious as you said, and Ice elementals cost more than some level 4 units, that is crazy. Royal griffins are very good, I thought about putting them at number 1 but Grand elves have always been more useful to me.
@blackwidow7804
@blackwidow7804 6 жыл бұрын
The thing with Dragon Fly is that outside they tactical usage they suck. They can barely beat Evil Eye in melee and thats a shooter. And the reason why Evil Eye is better than GE is that AI dont target them often so you have always big numbers and in later battles Grand Elves can be simply blocked. Also in random encounters vs fast units or shooters you wll aways loose some Elves. Evil Eye is decent shooter and good melee in one package. Also as i mention both Evil Eyes and R. Griffins dont need to be upgraded ASAP. But for Cerbery and GE upgrade is neccessary ASAP which can be a problem on 160-200% difficulty. Golems also need upgrade if you want to carry them early on ontherwise you will be too slow but unlike Cerbery and GE you dont need them in the beginning. All you need is Master Gremlin protected by Gargoyles. All this is ofc my opinion from my 15 yrs experience with this game and by no mean i hate your list or something. Keep up the good work!
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
I understand, You have very good reasoning to why creature x is better than creature y and make great points. Grand elves do get targeted a lot, that is their biggest downside. Dragon flies have very average stats but their speed is just so necessary for a slow town like Fortress, so they contribute to Fortress. You are right about griffins and beholders, they are probably the best non upgraded level 3 unit, while the others are average.
@Tristan-nb6ld
@Tristan-nb6ld 6 жыл бұрын
13 speed on other heroes allows them to move very fast. 8 Dragon flies will always beat 7 evil eyes. (tested) Iron Golems are resistant to spells, high health, but are slow and Dragon flies dispel and weakness make them a pest in any fight. Great unit.
@blackwidow7804
@blackwidow7804 6 жыл бұрын
Tristan just becouse 8 Flies beat 7 Eyes doesnt make them better unit. Eye is shooter remember? You can clean map without looses. 8 Flies also beat Elves so?
@TheValentineEnemy
@TheValentineEnemy 6 жыл бұрын
Made me smile when I saw the "Damage is not very high" for ice elementals....3-7 is one of the highest in level 3. ^^ Other than that would say grand elves bit better then all and wraiths are the worst. Rest is kinda equal for me.
@moelester4853
@moelester4853 6 жыл бұрын
Neko_ValentinE_Butterfly Grand Elves shoots twice so it's really 6-10 damage.
@TheValentineEnemy
@TheValentineEnemy 6 жыл бұрын
3-7 is slightly better than Orcs or Beholders though. Also they are more durable than any other shooter.
@moelester4853
@moelester4853 6 жыл бұрын
Neko_ValentinE_Butterfly I didn't say they're worst, Ice Elements are OP but have a low growth rate. I just think that the Grand Elves deserve the 1st place.
@TheValentineEnemy
@TheValentineEnemy 6 жыл бұрын
If you can keep them alive that is. Than yes they are slightly better. :P
@moelester4853
@moelester4853 6 жыл бұрын
Neko_ValentinE_Butterfly That's why you have those useless dwarves in Rampart.
@Rex-ek8vi
@Rex-ek8vi 5 жыл бұрын
1st - Royal Griffin & Cerberus 2nd - Dragon fly 3rd - Iron golem & Evil eye & Ice elemental 4th - Grand elf 5th - Wraith 6th - Orc chieftain
@MrBaniak1980
@MrBaniak1980 6 жыл бұрын
first place easy to kill with lightning spells 2xdmg
@user-kz3nx9rj8f
@user-kz3nx9rj8f 6 жыл бұрын
cerberus is very high, to my mind Beholders and golems are better. Grand elfes is the best unite, I absolutely agree
@richiabosuli3193
@richiabosuli3193 6 жыл бұрын
Evil eyes maybe are better, but golems are too slow imo.
@user-kz3nx9rj8f
@user-kz3nx9rj8f 6 жыл бұрын
golems are good defender to archers, computer or human player attacked them seldom, so to the final battle you have a lot of golems. if you have good characteristics of attack and defence, it will be a might power + magic resistance. Yes they have a low speed, but their funcktions not to go to the cetre of battlefield, but to protect mages or titans
@blackwidow7804
@blackwidow7804 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah Elves are great in clearing map but in the end you have always low numbers of them. If you go into final battle and have 2-3x as much golems its a difference. Cerberus problem is that they have low base growth of 5 (10 with castle) and you need buy another bulding to get +3. Also all 3 units really need upgrade if you want use them early on. Golems at 3 spd are useless. Elves need double shot and Hell Hound need the no melee penalty. On the other hand Griffin and Beholders will do the job just fine until you upgrade them.
@KiwiImpactSaint
@KiwiImpactSaint 2 жыл бұрын
Royal Griffin should be on the top. As long as it’s the largest stack when besiege, shield it, put on anti-magic, kill the ranged creatures wait for the rest to attack it.
@lvsoad22
@lvsoad22 5 жыл бұрын
Lol cerberi are really bad. Number 3 really? One of the worst upgrades in the entire game also
@babasemka
@babasemka 4 жыл бұрын
- Another good thing for the Wraith is that it's fast - The third fastest lvl 3 unit along with the Cerberus with 8 speed. Below average unit is a hilarious thing to say. - What does "contributes to Dungeon" even means? - The dragon fly is NOT the fastest non lvl 7 unit. The Efreet Sultan has 13 speed as well and is not a lvl 7. Dies quickly? WTF does that even mean too? - It has good defense skill. What if you have a lvl 30 Tazar? Does the Dragon fly dies quickly as well? Average damage? Fortress is a faction that is defense based, not offense. All of their units. Dude, for someone who is passionate about the game, enough to make those kind of videos, your knowledge is "below average". - By Cerberus, you mean Demons? It is probably the weakest lvl 3 creature. Nobody cares if it hits the three adjacent hexes. This is easily avoidable - don't place your units in the three adjacent hexes. Their dmg is ridiculously low even if the attack skill is not the lowest among the lvl 3 units. If I play Inferno, I always turn them into demons. A good player never use them for anything else than to farm them to demons, I swear! - "Lowest HP among lvl 3 units" and "Dies quickly" actually means the same thing. Same goes for "very necessary" and "very useful". "Very necessary for Rampart" also makes 0 sense. In a nutshell, some very bad placings, but I agree at least I can agree with number 1 and 2, but very ambiguous as a whole. You can tell that the dude has very good experience with playing vs the Computer and not very good against human players.
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