Top Detailing Myths DEBUNKED: DIY Detail Podcast #29

[@lukepyron7468]

Great stuff once again guys. Good to know about the dish soap - haven’t used it in years, but mainly because I thought it was too harsh and stripped everything. I am doing probably 90% rinseless washes these days because it’s so much easier than lugging out my pressure washer and all the gear every week. I do use waterless wash for my trunk and door jams though.

[@diydetailofficial]

Good plan.

[@gnawty4662]

These podcasts are absolutely “the right way.” Thank you gentlemen 👏

[@diydetailofficial]

🔥🔥🔥

[@havingtoomuchfun4806]

Guy’s, you knocked it out of the park again. Thank you for all the knowledge you give us, and Nick the lip fuzz is looking good.

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you

[@aldaley3537]

Great tips, as always. I have used a waterless wash as a pre-spray before washing with incredible results.

[@diydetailofficial]

You will enjoy the DIY Detail Waterless then.

[@Selfmastery000]

Thanks for this video!! It does get confusing sometimes with waterless and rinsless on understanding the differences. But these tips definitely help me and my business. Super greatfull for what yall do!!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you

[@marc-andregauthier5006]

Very interesting. Best duo in the detailing world by far!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you for the support 🙌

[@silsdetailing8978]

I have been detailing since 1992 when all I had was a rotary for the entire process. I still use a rotary a lot today but incorporate my DA for details as well. I also like putting on a coat of ole trusty Megs 26 as top coat to sealant

[@diydetailofficial]

Respect!

[@nightdaychannel828]

Thanks for covering some less commonly known myths! I always learn something knew with your videos!

[@diydetailofficial]

Glad to hear it!

[@glenzee9083]

Love the back and forth guys. Back in the day there wasn't modern clearcoat and there were only rotaries. I would gave liked to see a good detailing light on both of your sides on that black Cadillac. Eyeballs are good so maybe that's all that counts but it would have been interesting to see.😀

[@diydetailofficial]

Many of our subscribers have adopted the rotary for finishing with excellent results.

[@chandanpednekar1041]

@Yvan Thanks for developing the wax. Not a detailer, but the warm glow of wax looks something else all together. I saw the the ceramic coating size was reduced from 2oz to 1oz.

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you, yes we reduced it because 2 oz did 5-6 cars, it was too much product for the average person. The price also dropped to $49.99

[@fattysgarage1754]

Great info! Thank You! My 1st order shipped and am looking forward to using them.

[@diydetailofficial]

Have fun!

[@JesseSightler]

The hard part with automated washes is knowing which ones are really well maintained and safer.

[@diydetailofficial]

Trial and error unfortunately, reviews may help.

[@VIM97]

Great Video...cleared up a lot of ASSUMPTIONS!!!..

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you

[@hernan2838]

I would like to see a Wax that fills in specifically for ceramic coated vehicles, because let’s say a customer goes to a quick machine wash and they say they want another paint correction it’d be better to have a wax that can fill the scratches so we wouldn’t compromise the clear

[@diydetailofficial]

Agreed, and it’s in development.

[@joshuawrinn34]

Do you guys have the link the episode about automatic car washes? Cheers from Ottawa Canada !!

[@diydetailofficial]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpOVl5J8nNxlh9k

[@johnschmidt718]

I wish I had watched this yesterday, I would have had some great 50/50 pictures for you to confirm that you can rinseless wash a dirty vehicle... with a bit of common sense and care. Rinsless washed a filthy white sprinter that had been through 2 snow storms and a 1000 mile road trip. It was tan when I started and arctic white 30 minutes later. Pre spray with Koch Chemie Pol Star at 1:15 with 1:256 DIY rinseless... 5 minute dwell... "rinse" with DIY rinseless in IK 12.... followed with normal rinseless wash. Majority of the crud came off with the IK 12 "rinse" and was gleaming white after the wash. 5 gallons of DI water in all. I'll have to remember to get you some photos next time. And I am finding that I am reaching for DIY rinseless more and more frequently the more I use it. I am looking forward to the end of the winter freeze here, so that I can try it in a foam cannon (sorry I am not a 100% convert to rinseless... yet).

[@diydetailofficial]

Excellent.

[@edornelas7248]

Dude spot on with water spots! Coated my car and was so proud of it then a few hours later.. The spots were back! Learned that lesson! AWESOME VIDEO GUYS!!! Thank you!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you for taking the time to comment.

[@barrybij8079]

did not realize that about pro vs consumer coatings... great content fellas

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you

[@detailit]

Rotary is KING and definitely a LEARNED skill. I am really bad on rotary and the more I use one, the more I love it... BTW, when a person can finish down on a rotary...YIKES! Amazing Gloss! I spent some time on one fender with my Rotary, wool then Waffle fine foam (red) , I literally cannot match that look with my da... bottom line, rotary is uncomfortable for me but I'm learning to Love it. IT IS STILL THE BEST TOOL!

[@diydetailofficial]

A few tips, use a clean, damp waffle pad, keep the pad flat to the surface, no pressure, lowest speed it will go, use the trigger lock, don’t think about it, just enjoy.

[@detailit]

@@diydetailofficial thank you so much!!. Low speed, flat pad very key in finishing! Also the tip I usually forget and it's a SOLID tip, the damp pad👍. Thanks so much! Much appreciated. That caddy you guys did was pure 🔥🔥🔥. Great job!!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you

[@NickVetter]

The touchless car washes near me, always miss spots. I don't trust the touch ones at all. I have seen multiple license plates bent by them or even emblems destroyed.

[@diydetailofficial]

Hand washing it is.

[@josephonofrio7243]

I've heard Ivan's explanation about why a rotary finishes better than a long throw da. If I were to do a two step and didn't have a rotary for finishing, would it be better to use a short throw da versus a long throw for finishing?

[@diydetailofficial]

Yes

[@thesamsquatch5224]

I'm curious can you substitute a waterless wash for a drying aid? With water spot remover, mdr, etc do you always want to wash then apply? Nick the stache is coming along very nicely, Yvan always looking sharp!

[@diydetailofficial]

A waterless wash can be a drying aid The products will work more effectively on a clean surface. Thank you.

[@TheBreakfastLover]

@@diydetailofficial would a waterless wash be superior drying aid than a detail spray? It's certainly more cost effective.

[@diydetailofficial]

@@TheBreakfastLover DIY Detail Ceramic Gloss is better because it also leaves protection behind. As for cost, not much of a difference.

[@thesamsquatch5224]

@@diydetailofficial precisely, to me the ceramic wins. In a pinch at least you have a way to mitigate scratching

[@kirbyschneider4187]

Didn’t know there was a difference between waterless vs rinseless. Thank you!

[@diydetailofficial]

You bet!

[@travisharshberger5875]

Great info-packed video as always guys! Lately, I have been maintaining a lot of ceramic coated vehicles that are covered in road salt. I have been using a mixture of onr + mdr as a presoak before the rinseless wash. I just wanted to get your opinions on the best rinseless presoak mixture/procedure for salt removal. I typically use a water spot remover after the wash because it seems to work better, but is it necessary in the pre wash? I will be switching to diy products soon and appreciate your thoughts!

[@diydetailofficial]

Wash then treat with water spot remover. The pre soak unfortunately isn’t as effective since the iron remover needs to break through the dirt.

[@jacknewell2610]

Hey Guys, itching to get my hands on heaps of your products, heard on the grapevine they are coming to Australia, can you tell us when and with who? Keep up the great work! Love the expertise and knowledge base you guys share, invaluable!!!!

[@diydetailofficial]

They are on the way to Car Care Co!

[@shawdewson]

Yup! So far I've ordered five of your products from them❤

[@keithblacknell957]

When will we see DIY Detail products in the UK?

[@diydetailofficial]

Soon we hope, please ask your favourite supplier for DIY Detail by name.

[@robpeluso2852]

Always learning something! Great video!

[@diydetailofficial]

Us too!

[@Rick-bd3qf]

For a Canadian who washes the road salt off once per week, can it be done safely without pressure washing/garden hose rinsing the car beforehand? I'm not clear on this. I would of course pre-treat with a spray bottle of rinseless solution. If it was caked in dirt from the whole winter, I would not do this. However, once per week, the buildup would be much less. Thanks.

[@diydetailofficial]

Rick, yes Rinseless is safe to use that way. Being a Canadian myself, we have to think on our feet. If you have a coin car wash, pre spray with Rinseless, use their pressure washer, drive home and wash.

[@Rick-bd3qf]

@@diydetailofficial Yes, I will use the coin-op if it is really bad with salt. I guess the hard part is finding that line whereby it's too dirty to use rinseless safely. Thanks for your reply.

[@sandiashinecollc2665]

I have both Incredible Suds and and rinseless wash, I've been using the Incredible Suds as a pre soak then rinse and doing my contact wash with the rinseless wash with first time clients. Do you think there is a better or more efficient way or chemical combination to do this? Also, Ceramic Gloss and Rinseless Wash, is it ass effective to spray over the Rinseless then dry or should there be just regular water? Thanks guys for the amazing content as always and the even greater products!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you. That combo is great, or you can use DIY Detail Rinseless Wash as your pre-soak as well. DIY Detail Ceramic Gloss performs better with the DIY Detail Rinseless Wash on the surface than water.

[@DrivewayDetailer]

Hey guys! Just got my Makita 9237 rotary and love it! But im wondering what backing plate I should use for most correction, the stock 7 inch or a 5 or 6 inch? I have to buy new pads and I dont know what size to choose! I do also have a Griots G9 DA with the 5 inch plate, but Im looking to because more efficient with the rotary!

[@diydetailofficial]

Yvan might chime in here (this is Nick) but I bought the 6 inch lake country backing plate (it’s yellow) and that has worked great for me with 6 inch pads

[@DetailingMadeSimple]

Just tuning in was busy this week. Eating my breakfast and listening to these myths! Especially the water spot one. I rather over use a water spot remover than redo a whole job 💯👍. Haha Nick learned the hard way as well 😅. We don't believe until it happens to us. Us kids are knuckleheads.

[@diydetailofficial]

Lol, always be learning.

[@-Aliquis]

According to the dish soap sheeting topic. One thing I am waiting for is that some detailing company find a way to make a real sheeting sealant/spray especially for topping ceramic. Some tried this but they bead nevertheless or those are base coats for coatings which dont really bead but neither sheet really great. Waterspots from minerals and dirt, not after washing but for example after sun hits the car with drops from rain on it, are an big issue here. Do you think there will be the technology for a real sheeting product in the future? Hope you understand what I mean. Sorry for my sometimes bad english. I try to improve my english by watching english videos, reading and sometimes writing something.

[@diydetailofficial]

Your English is perfect. Unfortunately that’s very difficult to accomplish with a coating. It’s been done with a wax in the 80’s, problem is no one purchased it. Also if you create a non hydrophobic surface , dirt will also stick to it. With something that offers chemical protection, sheeting requires a high volume of water to accomplish, something that with rain simply isn’t feasible.

[@-Aliquis]

@@diydetailofficial interesting. I watched an video from an coating company. They said that that the cleaning and dirt repellency would be best with a non or semi-hydrophobic coating. But they talked in this case about high density polysilazane. Ok, its maybe semi-hydropobic, speeking about water contact angles under 60. But even an angle of 60 would reduce water spots compared to angles over 100 which most products creates today. But thank you for your information and opinion. Always interesting to hear different opinions on one topic. I agree with you that such a product would be a niche product. Therefore not something to make money with because most want tight beads. But the water spot issue on my ouside parked black car and the constant weather change from rain to sun sometimes also with dust drives me crazy.

[@vicjensik5985]

Can you make a waterless wash by making a stronger dilution of rinseless wash solution?

[@diydetailofficial]

Yes, but it’s not as good as a dedicated waterless wash. They are quite different.

[@doc91260]

Great video. I use waterless wash to removal bird drops when I can’t wash right away. I typically stray the bird drops. Let it soak for 30 seconds or so, then spray the microfiber. Then scoop the bird dropping. Spray the microfiber in another section and wipe. Is that a safe method or do you suggest another method? Thanks

[@diydetailofficial]

That’s a perfect use for it, and good method.

[@doc91260]

Great, thanks

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you for your question

[@Autofaze]

You blew my mind with the dawn dish soap part. I thought that was a legit thing for all these years lol

[@diydetailofficial]

You’re not alone

[@annagraham6204]

Still test it. These “myths” are lies companies put out there. Think of how ridiculous it is for a pro detailer using a brand called Do It Yourself. Certified coatings are backed with a warranty because they not only charge detailers to get a certification, the coating itself is 8xs the cost. Not because they know it’s being prepped properly. These guys are part of the “club”.

[@Nexurr]

Are you going to introduce the products to Europe soon? Or are there already some retailers avaiable? Would love to try out some of your prdocuts!!

[@diydetailofficial]

We are in contact with a few retailers. If you have any that you like to work with, let us know. You can also ask them for DIY Detail

[@olds3945]

For sale Used pressure washer, comes with hose and foam cannon. Excellent condition.

[@diydetailofficial]

Keep it, they are useful

[@mattkessler2]

I will come back after a wash with a premixed waterless wash in a spray bottle as well as a microfiber cloth to get the drip marks tthat come out of the nooks and crannies (lookin at you, mirrors)

[@diydetailofficial]

We have the drip catcher for that

[@stevenv9224]

Great info guys 👍

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you

[@myname-in8sh]

Hello. Love this channel and watching all the way from India. Huge long time fan of Yvan and his efficient techniques, which only come from years of experience. I see his face in a thumbnail; I click. Wish he was related to me so i could have 24/7 access to him for my endless detailing thoughts and queries. I know it's best to not reuse on paint, microfibre that has been used for ceramic coating application/removal and to demote it to less sensitive tasks. However, when it comes to ceramic/SiO2 spray coatings/sealants like TW Seal & Shine or TW ceramic spray or even ceramic infused waterless wash; what's your thinking/attitude towards the microfibre used with these products? Would microfiber detergents be able to adequately clean/revive the towels/pads to the point where they'd be suitable for use on paint again? Do these ceramic sprays have that much ceramic content in them that they'd leave hardened ceramic particles in the microfibre? I hate losing perfectly nice microfibre just because it was used with ceramic products. I wish you guys would do a short video on this topic. My first time reaching out to you guys so would be thrilled to have Yvan reply just for me. Also, any plans to make your products available in India or on Amazon India? Really interested in that super soft microfiber candy wash pad you guys were showing in another video. Thank you and wishing you all the success with the channel and product launches👍

[@diydetailofficial]

Hello, this is Yvan, thank you for your support. For your towels, when you’re done using them, put them in your Wash bucket before the ceramic has time to cure. Here’s the video kzbin.infospdBWSh_Dws?feature=share

[@myname-in8sh]

Haha oh God I have my reply from my favourite detailer; thank youuuu Yvan you're the best; i see you and Nick and also many other great KZbin detailers making time to reply to us viewers as much as you can and that's just great; on behalf of everyone, we really appreciate it🤗 And watching that video felt like it was made just for me in response to my question haha; but it's great that many other people in the comments had that thought and that it's a valid concern. Thank you again and may God bless you with health and happiness; have a great day👍

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@ericb5181]

Yes!!!! Waterless wash!!! Can't wait!

[@diydetailofficial]

Give us a few months

[@gregsullivan7408]

Observation: is now more than a "few months" 😀

[@johnlanore599]

I think you guys should come out with a good low sudsing sio2 shampoo. We detail boats and are looking for a good one right now.

[@diydetailofficial]

We’re testing a few products right now, why low sudsing?

[@PolishedMobileDetailing503]

@@diydetailofficial low suds should indicate a strong protection package. I wouldn’t expect a ceramic shampoo that is high foaming to be durable.

[@winston-1111]

great tips, thanks!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you

[@olds3945]

Diy detail has everything you need and nothing you don’t.

[@madwax1360]

Will they'll be a DIY waterless wash coming down the pipeline?

[@diydetailofficial]

Yes, soon

[@madwax1360]

@@diydetailofficial Awesome!

[@rworthinTM]

You guys are great

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you

[@gregsullivan7408]

Re "if your paint is clean, no, MF won't scratch" - that's not what Brian from Apex Detail found: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aISxqmehgpWgl7c (he applies light pressure - not sure exactly how much though)

[@diydetailofficial]

Always best to be cautious

[@Ecdetails]

I rather have a great coating and I’ll warranty myself ..it customer service ❤

[@diydetailofficial]

True

[@josephmattos945]

Rotary all the way. People spoiled nowadays everyone wants to be a detailer with a freaking dual action. Try detailing a semi and trailer for a truck show with a DA, ain't freaking happening!

[@diydetailofficial]

Good point.

[@Detailing-With-Love]

Commenting cause I was told too 😊

[@diydetailofficial]

lol thank you

[@keithfirebird7618]

👍😎

[@diydetailofficial]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@georgina_gsm]

So badly want your products in the UK!

[@diydetailofficial]

Ask your favourite distributor for then, the more they get asked, the faster they will act

[@wowyummyyy]

L I K E 👍👍 👍👍👍 💯❣💯❣💯🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@diydetailofficial]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

Dawn is for Ceramics not paint

[@diydetailofficial]

Dawn is simply a soap that leaves a residue.

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

@@diydetailofficial yep, for ceramic dishes although there were some out of metal like those for camping and their chemistry is not for vehicles 😄😄

[@olds3945]

Hook, line, and sinker! 🤣

[@diydetailofficial]

@@olds3945 yes