What are "swirls" in car paint? And how can we prevent them? DIY Detail Podcast #27

In this episode, Nick and Yvan discuss the cause of swirls and scratches -- and some solutions for you at home to PREVENT them from happening. What are your tips and tricks to keep your paint pristine?
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[@diydetailofficial]

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[@maximelefebvre8987]

Va t'il y avoir un distributeur au quebec des produits? Autre que carzilla au canada? Super podcast encore!

[@diydetailofficial]

Possiblement, demandé à vos distributeurs préférés de nous contacter.

[@jayz313]

Really great discussions. So much good information. I appreciate your candidnese, and that you are not trying to sell us anything, but rather educate. Thanks Nick. Thanks Ivan.

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you!

[@bluegrasskid4835]

17:00, Yvan, I know you sometimes go to Europe to train. Have you ever been to Monte Carlo, Monaco, and visited Prince Rainer's car collection? The cars are amazing but holy cow, the mess of swirls on those cars.

[@diydetailofficial]

Not there, but many collections and museums around the world suffer the same fate.

[@bluegrasskid4835]

@@diydetailofficial I wonder if Prince Rainer would be interested in hiring a Royal Detailer to tend to his fleet of amazing cars. I think I could handle that career

[@dtna]

I've seen alot of DIY videos, but yours is one of the best. You guys don't try to entertain your audience. No B.S..

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you, educating is our goal.

[@LasseJohannsen1]

I could listening to your guys all day. Thank you

[@diydetailofficial]

Thanks for spending time with us! Much more to come …

[@Ecdetails]

Nick that stash is coming in thicc , great video fellas awesome information

[@diydetailofficial]

Haha wait til you see it again, it’s gotten more glorious 😂

[@Ecdetails]

@@diydetailofficial 😂 coming in 💪🏽

[@gunnsteinnjonsson9166]

I have been watching hours and hours of your videos lately and even though l am sometimes watching videos about the same topic, l am always learning something new. I had been wondering about why these swirls were so perfectly circular, but now l know they aren't. 😊 l am only three minutes in, so l might comment again when l am done watching 😅😅

[@diydetailofficial]

Happy to help

[@tz1708]

Very informative. Learned some new stuff. Surprised you didn't mention blow drying instead of towels.

[@diydetailofficial]

Good catch

[@chriss3959]

Great explanation! Thanks for the in depth info and tips! I've been enjoying the DIY line

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you, what’s your favourite so far.

[@chriss3959]

I like everything! I'm a rinse less wash person, but I love the clay towel and iron remover combo. I use quick beads on my wheels...WOW! Ceramic gloss is the real deal!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you!

[@robpeluso2852]

Another great video! Always learning new information! I can’t wait for the DIY Waterless wash. I know it will be amazing!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@havingtoomuchfun4806]

Great video guys, every time I see a video with Ivan, I know I’m about to learn something, this didn’t disappoint.

[@diydetailofficial]

He really is a walking encyclopedia of automotive knowledge.

[@DetailingMadeSimple]

Great content and info guys! I love how you guys also said swirls and scratches are caused by how you drive the car as well! That's what I always tell my customers. Dirt dust debris in the roads and highways those dust leaves or branches hitting your car will eventually scratch overtime. 💪

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you!

[@willoverkill8461]

I support a company like DIYDetail pushing home the thought that paint doesn't have to be perfectly scratch free to coat or to look terrific. The detailing world is dominated by OCD detailers, I think many get into the business due to their OCD so I want to be careful with my words but their standards being applied as THE standards can be harmful to the auto community because they're not realistic for DIYers. Someone wanting to polish their car is going to be faced with dozens of different pads of different thicknesses, different firmness, different patterns and textures, then they have to pick from a dozen different compounds/polishes just from one company, it's too much! My father who used to do the 8" orbital Simoniz machines with a liquid cleaner wax in the 90s, he never touched the new DAs, the choices were all too much for him. A DIYer should have the guidance and support to take one polishing pad choice, one polish, put it on one easy to use DA machine and get that 2/3 correction of swirls, remove the water spots, see a nice shine to put that protection over, and not be told by a car club or detailing group on FB that they're doing it wrong!

[@diydetailofficial]

Exactly, that’s why we will have The Gold Standard Polishing System soon, 1 polish, 2 pads, and a great finish.

[@ericgoodman9509]

Agree with you. There are far too many detailing porn stars

[@Autofaze]

Really enjoyed this one fellas! The car show bit really got me, that drives me crazy. So crazy that I try to educate lol

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you!

[@davidruggles996]

Another great video podcast guys. Your teamwork in front of the camera continues to get better with every video. Keep up the great work!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@camyota]

So i was watching this and did a little test. My phone screen is all scratched up...mostly straight up and down or across. In daylight out of direct sun i can see all of these straight scratches going in different directions across my screen. Tilt the screen so that i can see the sun and BAM swirls! (Dont worry im wearing sunglasses)

[@diydetailofficial]

Great test

[@Rick-bd3qf]

I have a black SUV purchased just over three months ago. I’ve been super careful washing and drying but noticed some very light lines in the clear coat tonight. However, I also installed bright LED lighting in my garage, so these lines could have been there from the time I got the car, or perhaps the pressure washer caused them when I pre-rinsed. Either way, it sounds like I have to accept that it won’t be perfect and have fun keeping it looking as nice as possible. Maybe one day I’ll get the confidence to polish it. Until then, I’ll use my ceramic spray wax!

[@diydetailofficial]

Good plan.

[@stevenv9224]

You guys share great knowledge to people like myself who is still learning. Great video and tips on what to do. 👍

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you, we too are still learning.

[@CarsWithKeav]

Foaming on dry not only lubricates for the initial pressure rinse it actually cleans better than rinsing first then foaming and rinsing again. Many of us have put that to the test and at least in our tests we find foaming dry is better. Dilution, lubrication, etc.

[@diydetailofficial]

Are you referring to foamer attached to an air line?

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@diydetailofficial I meant foaming the car with a foam cannon dry rather than rinsing first. Already what you said in the video. Never rinse first is my motto.

[@diydetailofficial]

Excellent, but as KZbin’s foam cannon guru, and with your compressor, you should test an air foamer.

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@diydetailofficial Don’t you worry, I got all kind of foaming stuff coming!

[@TheBreakfastLover]

Correct, multiple channels tested this and pre-foaming on a dry car cleans better than pre-rinsing with water.

[@vincentmiano342]

Watched til the end love the video! thank you for very honest and realistic explanations!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment

[@ga20904]

Great Video Guys, thank you I would like to see that filmed with a super slow motion camera to see if that happens 14:29 If the car is pretreated first with ONR how long do you allow it to sit on the paint before you pressure wash it off 15:17 No Shade to Nick for using dish detergent ,🤣 26:25

[@diydetailofficial]

You want to let DIY Detail Rinseless Wash dwell a few minutes before rinsing.

[@ga20904]

@@diydetailofficial Wonderful, thank you

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you for your comments

[@TheAttractiveNuisance]

Great video as always. Today I ordered the ceramic coating and three pack of twist loop towels, I’m excited to coat the vehicle this spring

[@diydetailofficial]

Awesome! Those towels will treat you well in the meantime, just one can absorb a surprising amount of moisture

[@greghaefs4677]

I want to upgrade drying towel, any suggestions This weekend using rinseless wash and then ceramic spray - both from DIY detail. But I used a box store drying towel that is thick/fluffy as a sheep. It didn’t seem to slide that well. I also drying a large flat surface of the minivan top that loads my towel So what towel do you suggest? How many towels using ceramic gloss and rinseless wash would be used for a minivan? Any suggestions on not loading a towel up with water on top of van? Would using a leaf blower be a dumb idea before using cermaic gloss and towel? Thanks much

[@diydetailofficial]

My preference is our waffle weave towel

[@carloabat4379]

Can I use both ceramic gloss and quick beads as a drying aid and also applying it after drying the car? Using rinseless wash with these products. TIA✌🏼

[@diydetailofficial]

You can, might be a little overkill to use both at the same time. If you want to stack them, wait an hour between products to give the ceramic time to cross link.

[@jean-marc1662]

@@diydetailofficial what is your recommendation after using Quick Beads to dry the car? Only a MF?

[@diydetailofficial]

You can use a MF or a blower. There’s no need for an additional drying aid. The DIY Detail Quick Beads is providing the lubrication and protection.

[@neilwalker5041]

Thank you for an outstanding video full of knowledge!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you for watching!

[@ericgoodman9509]

Wonderful video as usual. Did I understand correctly your take on a touch less car wash is damaging clear coat nearly as much as the automated car washes?

[@diydetailofficial]

On a non Ceramic coated car, yes a touchless wash can be a problem.

[@waxmanvids5015]

skip towel drying all together get that CR Spotless! Great video guys!!

[@diydetailofficial]

That’s an option.

[@flowinthrou]

Here is a question: What is worse? putting on a car cover and having to polish the swirls some time or leaving it in the sun (in really sunny areas) and having the sun eating the paint, the rubber, plastics, interior and anything else?

[@diydetailofficial]

in this case, car cover sounds much better lol.

[@flowinthrou]

@@diydetailofficial Is that so?

[@Stainlessautos]

Hey guys, would it be beneficial to go with a rinseless/ all clean mixture as a pretreat? I know I’ve seen the addition of an apc to a foam cannon but never a rinseless.

[@diydetailofficial]

As a pre-treat yes.

[@broc1805]

What if I combine rinseless wash and incredible suds in my foam cannon…or is that over kill? After all the salt and snow we got on the south, I actually used incredible suds, rinseless wash and a little APC in the foam cannon, figured it might be overkill but just wanted to try it. Any thoughts?

[@TheBreakfastLover]

Never mix rinseless washes with traditional soaps, it will coagulate into an emulsion.

[@diydetailofficial]

What were the results from the mix?

[@diydetailofficial]

Not always, while we’ve never tried that, it could work.

[@TheBreakfastLover]

@@diydetailofficial I once mixed ONR with Optimum Car Wash Shampoo and it turned clumpy.

[@diydetailofficial]

Yes, those are far from being compatible.

[@luccouture8984]

For scratches...isn't there a simple way to locally add clear coat (inside a noticeable scratch, not small swirls) and then gently polish any excess^ As opposed to levelling down everything down to the bottom of that scratch? Sounds less detrimental.

[@diydetailofficial]

That often looks worse.

[@mandeepsingh-zg1qk]

How can i get the diy products in india

[@diydetailofficial]

You can’t, yet. Please contact your favorite distributor and ask them to carry us

[@thesamsquatch5224]

What a video! I really didn't know that much about the paint process as I thought. But absolutely correct we're leveling the paint making it flatter so light refracts better off the surface and thus looks appealing. I know that Hawk Pro has many videos on polishing and ways to make you more efficient. You have pad washer to prevent dry polish amongst cleaning, 5,5,5 method. I really enjoyed this video because it happens and always will. And the detailing bug is a great bug to catch, I look forward to more videos in the new year. Thank you Nick and Yvan!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thanks brother! Yvan is an encyclopedia lol I always love picking his brain

[@thesamsquatch5224]

@@diydetailofficial I'll say no work would get done, I'd never stop the questions 🤣 The mustache is coming along nicely!

[@diydetailofficial]

That’s why we are here, to answer questions.

[@gregsullivan7408]

Re lighting, this presentation from a high end detailer is fascinating: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYLSe4SNZZKdg6c Re drying aids, are there any products that if left on the panel, completely evaporate, leaving zero residue? Some panel wipes contain oils that do completely evaporate - yes? A drying aid that contained oils like that, without the cleaning chemicals, would seem to make sense, to minimise residue if one doesn't manage to completely dry an area. Re touchless washes, the main one in my city (Sydney) is the LaserWash, and i do think it is pretty swirl free. (but it doesn't get the car as clean as a tunnel wash, and leaves runs/drips of soapy water which if left to dry, are quite difficult to remove) Re "link above" - sorry, but once again it didn't appear 😃

[@diydetailofficial]

Our Rinseless Wash is a great drying aid and leaves nothing behind:)

[@gregsullivan7408]

@@diydetailofficial so if I spray some of your rinseless wash on a surface, and simply let it air dry, are you saying it leaves no visible residue?

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

Even traveling because of dust will cause them🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@diydetailofficial]

Any contact can cause them.

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

@@diydetailofficial yep👌👍 that's why there's PPF but really expensive to protect the whole vehicle

[@diydetailofficial]

@@1stfrompuertorico568 correct.

[@functionaldoc5054]

I can't believe that I beat you to first position are you OK? 🙏👍

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

@@functionaldoc5054 😄😄yes, was driving back home and can't text and drive 😄😄 Hope you had a nice Christmas! And a better new year 2023

[@alexbryan7641]

But water is a solvent…for dirt…is it not?🤔 lol

[@diydetailofficial]

Yes it is, but more importantly it’s not a lubricant.

[@functionaldoc5054]

First yeah.

[@diydetailofficial]

Congratulations, not many people can beat Humberto to this position.